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1201  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: I quit trading on: October 28, 2016, 08:15:04 AM
Maybe invest it into some gambling sites or, I would suggest, to start trading again. I mean from the looks of it you learned a lot about trading and I think you have a much better chance of making great profits this time. When I started I lost a bit of money, but I still continued with trading and have my word I have made a lot of profit. Smiley
I disagree, the Op gave trading more than a fair chance and it did not work for him, you must understand that people have different abilities, likes and dislikes maybe trading is simply nor for him.
Exactly, it was mentioned by the OP.. He gave time so much in trading but for that long span of time he was not successful. That would only prove, that not all people can be successful in trading as  it requires some kind of skills that not everyone possess it. Maybe Op just divert his investment in other form of investment.
1202  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin to be international currency on: October 28, 2016, 08:00:48 AM
If bitcoin to be international currency, what do you think?
You can use it every where and anywhere, without exchange it.
And how to use transaction with it, if bitcoin just crypto currency?
How many people like with this thread?

Despite the negative planted, the future of Bitcoin is, and doubt it as pointless, as it was in vain to disagree with the creation of the world wide web. At the very beginning of its birth were also failures, failures and miscalculations. Like many complex information technologies, Bitcoin is now experiencing a problematic period that is too early to call the formation. But to deny that he has a future, it is a clear mistake.
Bitcoin can be an international currency with a limited users and that is our current standing for now, that is due to the fact that bitcoin is only used for online activities and there are no major merchants that directly accept bitcoin to achieve massive adoption of the online shoppers.

They are the biggest volume of people who can transact online, we have to aim for that moment of time.
1203  Economy / Economics / Re: If bitcoin price is $10.000, will fiat be worthless? on: October 28, 2016, 07:56:03 AM
No, even if Bitcoin price reaches $10000, Stiill fiat will be alive in the market.Even now in some countries, fiat price is very less but still it is used and it will be used for buying goods.
Because that's the authorized currency by the government and they would never approve something they think they don't have control over. I mean yes bitcoins reaches a excellent value but still how will we buy the daily needs grocery and all without fiat ? will shops accept BTC then maybe fiat can disappear.
So believers who are too confident about their investment with bitcoin should realize that bitcoin is not as big as they think. They should think realistic than fantasizing things over and over that it will replace fiat or make fiat worthless with that price at bitcoin that will be achieve in the future..

I know it is not impossible to achieve that amount as we are going to  the rate now, but we have to be practical on the way we think.
1204  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you consider trading as gambling? on: October 28, 2016, 07:49:50 AM
I think there is a lot of gray area when defining gambling. Some games are purely chance and others have some skill involved. I don't think of trading as gambling, but I can see that there is some unknown as to what the outcome will be so it could be in that gray area.
In general you cannot consider trading as gambling as there are even course offered when you can study trading online and even in physical school. But gambling there's not such thing like that, gamblers can become professional but that's what only base on how we look ourselves since there's not proper way to determine on how to become professional.

From what I know, gambling is for fun and trading is a serious business by investing in yourself hoping you skills and knowledge will give you money.
In fact the definition of professional is very simple, someone that earns money from an activity, in order to be a professional gambler you need to be a profitable gambler so it does not matter how many books you read if you are not generating profits you are not a professional.

You will not directly become a professional, as even in real life we have to study first before we become professional and the same concept goes with gambling, you need to experience gambling and by learning from your experience that would make you a professional gambler until such time your weaknesses will turn to be your strength.
1205  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is bitcoin being used for illegal activities on: October 28, 2016, 07:45:40 AM
I think all of that back to the user, in general, every person has two properties in his life. namely the bright side and a dark side. so that the same as using bitcoin. if used illegal means the person has a dark side of her life. we who believe in the existence of God, it would be wise to use this life for the good of all. I prefer to do good in this life.
True, the use of bitcoin is legal or illegal depending on each user. Because if bitcoin used wisely would be very advantageous, but on the contrary if used unwisely it would be detrimental.
is bitcoin being used for illegal activities? yes. is this good or is this bad? this is good! why? because bitcoin does not care who is paying whom or for what reason. this is for money more important then many realize. if there was a possibility that someone could decide who can use bitcoin and who not, then this power would be abused.
and let us face it. bad people will do bad thing and they will use money to do so. if bitcoin is considered a good form of money, then they will use bitcoin.
it is not the job of bitcoin to do something against those criminals. it is the job of the law, cops, jurisdiction. 
Good for the overall market as what we are after is the increase of circulation and we know how big is the volume needed in the transaction of illegal activities, they might also be the reason why bitcoin is still alive now and progressive..
1206  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2016/17 NBA Season on: October 28, 2016, 06:07:20 AM
The clippers just got their revenge tonight by defeating the Portland Trailblazers in their home court.. Good start for the clippers, I hope they will be able to make it to the playoffs again and it is good if they will meet again the Blazers, I have fun watching the two team playing.
1207  Economy / Economics / Re: The future of the paper money on: October 28, 2016, 06:04:26 AM
Although we are entering an age where everything has its digital version, I don't see the paper money being obsolete. It is still nice to have physical forms of money. The increasing transaction counts using digital money and online payment has reduced the need to bring cash but there are still things that are better off being paid by paper money.
Of course, the use of paper money will still be practiced as there are situatio or good/services that will require a must to be transacted using paper money. No matter how civilized or advanced that the word may become, paper money will still be needed to make some forms of transaction.
Personally I disagree, payments are becoming more and more digital, just look at bitcoin and electronic currency, the tendency is that cash is disappearing, and in the future there’s a big chance that in developed countries cash will no longer exists

Within that trend, it is possible that the bitcoin will be the major global currency gradually. the price will also rise.
Obviously since this is a bitcoin forum I think that is something most of us are expecting but there are a lot of unknowns along the way, for example a new revolutionary coin could come and left bitcoin in the dust.
Then we move on, we are already here in the crypto world so we know that will happen since it is possible. All coins here are just living due to the trust of the people and if we loses our trust with bitcoins then it would definitely be replace by other crypto assets.. What is important is we will just enjoy what we have now and in overall crypto world are profitable..
1208  Economy / Economics / Re: Best way for steady income on: October 28, 2016, 05:59:39 AM
As a example trading could be a good thing to make a steady income, I think that is one of the best because the others are way more risky too.
I would hold it on this one to be honest.
I disagree, trading can be a great way to make a lot of profits but in no way can be a steady way to earn money, there are going to be good months and there are going to be bas months.

This is true if you are very new or have little trading experience. But if you are already a well.experienced trader, you can make trading a steady source of income. If not, you can always supplement your income from other sources like offering services and signature campaigns.

Offering your services is a good way to make some side income, but unless you live in a very cheap country I doubt that you can make enough with signature campaigns in order to allow you to buy anything of significant value.
Signature campaign is definitely not a good way to be consider as your steady income. Though you can work in different campaign and they pay you regularly as long as they are operating but the amount will not commensurate on your needs in life unless you are living below your  means..

There no life anymore if you cannot enjoy your stay and you just live for survival..
1209  Economy / Economics / Re: How many Bitcoin do you have saved? on: October 28, 2016, 05:54:41 AM
Money spread out in different baskets, and in case you will not lose anything. Maybe somewhere and lose, but according to the laws and win. There is a risk that nothing will be able to make money, but losses will not.
Saving is the word but the real intention is to invest.. It is investing because bitcoin fluctuates and it is an asset that you need to hope that the price will rise for you to make your money grow and that is not saving for me as saving your money will not grow and it will not be at risk.

Putting your money in bitcoin is a big risk.
1210  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: To Gamble or To Invest? on: October 28, 2016, 05:48:37 AM
I always believe in math. In gambling, you will always tend to lose as the house edge makes sure you are having negative returns. However in investment, you can do some research to make sure that your investment have an extreme high chance of giving you more than your initial bankroll.
Yes, math is based on facts. Actually people think if they gamble they can slowly build profits, while they need to understand that there is always a 1% against you, so when you gamble at 50% you actually having 49% win chance only, and the house has 51 so who should win, guess yourself ?
People who believe in their luck does not believe in math, although they know that they do not have the advantage, they still go for it hoping they can win.. The reality shows that in the long run we will still lose and since the outcome is fast we might wipe out our entire bankroll.
1211  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Are you Rich from Gambling? on: October 28, 2016, 05:43:35 AM
I will be rich by next month, pray for me!!
I will pray for you for sure and i giving you a full support if you win on that gambling site or any website please do not forget me Smiley im gonna pray for your kindness and may god bless you with your dream lmao hahaha i've the one who gonna make you some effort to support you moral support.
Personally I don’t think that is something you should be praying for, if you are going to pray then do it for stuff that really matters like the health of a loved one or your own health.
Don't bother praying for him as the moment he wins he will just forget you. Instead pray for the humanity that there's peace all around the world. God would be more happy if we care for our fellow men who are in poverty, and do not just do that for one person.
1212  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Putting money in lottery is gambling too? on: October 28, 2016, 05:33:09 AM
Absolutely! Putting money in lottery is gambling too. The lottery result is unpredictable.
Very!! Because is a hard game to win, you can only win on it if you are extremely lucky and one win could make you stop gambling for good as the money you can earn will be good to live a comfortable life and even if you will not work anymore you can still live.

Basically that is the reason of the gamblers in lottery..
1213  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why is gambling so addicting? on: October 28, 2016, 05:26:16 AM
It's because gambling is like drugs, you always want more on gambling even you are win or lose. The feel when you have a bet and the sweat and your heartbeat makes gambling become fun.
Really? gambling is not like drugs but you are having fun playing gambling , gambling is hobby and like sports that your mind really think and then follow your instinct but im not sure that you are going to win straight evendo your going to hard playing. but gambling for me is really but and really addicted.
in some manner you are correct its just like a game that you focus your mind and dedicate your self the only problem with this addiction is you are using money and losing it especially big amount is not funny and trying to regain it back would turn really to addiction.
Yep you need to focus everything when you are playing gambling if you don't focus then you must get lose and all in all bet and bet and then lose and lose specially when you are playing with big amount  yes it is not funny when you are loosing them. And chase it when you lose you're getting too much addicted into gambling.
And you can surely gamble with focus if the amount at stake is a big amount, our bankroll should be serious to make us serious in gambling and to treat this as a game that is like a business where we have to make a plan to last in the game and also when we stop we can stop with a big profit if possible.
1214  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: If you were rich, would you still gamble? on: October 28, 2016, 05:18:30 AM
I would still gamble but not so much anymore because the feeling of making profit is gonna by than at all in my opinion.
I think its just not fun anymore to do because you do gamble for nothing, money is no issue anymore.

Exactly, when you are rich you almost have everything and money is your main advantage to do whatever you want in your life. You have freedom to do it at any time you wanted to, so basically if you are gambling it would not be a big problem because everyone deserves to be happy and you have can it since you are rich.
1215  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: In what gambling games are you good at? on: October 28, 2016, 05:15:39 AM
Hey! Good day to you! I would like to ask you about what gambling games are you good at so that i will know or other people will know how many user play that gambling game and would recommend me to play some of your games so that i won't be scanned in any website games so that i you can recommend me something fun and wild in gambling games.  Grin Grin
actually all the gambling sites provided the different different games but in my opinion these games are just to show your mind is advaturous ( all over it is only gambling ) .
but i like only those games in gambling which are directly subjected to the bet of bitcoin .
i want give you example of gambling style at freebitco.in .
That's how they do it in bitcoin world, we have a lot of gambling sites here and they have unique games so we can still play the way we want to and the games with our interest, but by playing different kind of game, that is the time you will determine where are you good at since you know your own record if you are tracking it.
1216  Economy / Economics / Re: If you were in desperate need for money.... on: October 28, 2016, 05:10:38 AM
when you are in desperate need of money, you have a problem about money, and to solve the problem you need to look for the money and that is a hard task to do. I have been in the situation many times and I thank God because he is guiding me every time I have a money problem, my relatives really help me a lot in times of trouble.
I am happy for you to have a good relative that actually understand and solve your finacial problems in time of need, not everybody that has relative who can understand and solve their problems,as for you, you are lucky enough.
And not all people in desperate need of money are also willing to approach their relatives, some keep their price even if a very desperate times as they do not want to have a debt of gratitude.
and I have saw some people around me that they sometimes come to very desperate need of money but they do not ask from their relatives because they may know that they will not help or there maybe some other reason beside that. But I have noticed that those people who are rich do not care for their poor relatives and definitely because of that the poor do not dare to ask them.
My friend is that sort of person, he first when gets salary really burns it with gambling and eating pizzas and all, and when there are yet 10 days left and money in hand is just around 20$ they get desperate and lol he been giving us so many treats we often help him, but hey he never asks his family, not sure yet why.

It sounds like your friend needs some money management counseling.  As long as his friends keep helping him at the end of the period, they're enabling him to keep being irresponsible.  When it comes down to it, all those treats he's sharing with everybody are actually being paid for by the group because it's coming out of their pocket in the end.
Do not tolerate that kind of behavior of your friend, you do have to teach him a lesson also that not all the time you are there for him. He needs to know how valuable money is and we are not only living today, we still have tomorrow to use our money for our needs to survive.
1217  Economy / Economics / Re: Does the Price of Bitcoin Matter? on: October 28, 2016, 04:57:50 AM

That is why we need to collect more bitcoin as many as we can because we see the potential of the price would be much higher in the end of this year. And be careful because whales do something to make users panic selling to earn more after the selling.

I am actually doing it and I believe will bring me fortune in the future.. I know it sounds unrealistic for anyone who hear this but believing is our only chance to make money here, bitcoin is not physical that is something we can hold so we need to invest also what we believe we can afford to lose.
1218  Other / Off-topic / Re: bitcoin affects life a lot on: October 28, 2016, 04:53:44 AM
bitcoin really can change someone's life, maybe it's not one, but many in the outcome there bitcoin can change someone's life. I realized after I got to know bitcoin, I always in my computer room to monitor the price of Bitcoin every time. but all of that in the underlying with the higher price of bitcoin every day. I consciously use bitcoin is earning in my life.
Well, what if I will tell you that bitcoin changes my life.. My life before was simple and I just earn a little amount of money just enough for me to spend on my daily expenses and a little savings, but when I know bitcoin it gives me an opportunity to trade and invest as even with a little amount we can do it here.
1219  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Best Bitcoin Business To Create? on: October 28, 2016, 04:50:51 AM
definitely casinos/betting sites. They never lose customers. You need to take note of the competition, though.

Yeah, considering the amount is that being created, I think that's the best bussiness to create !
Bitcoin casinos/betting site is realy profitable bitcoin business for the developer but the customers who realy lost their bitcoin in it. The gambler is not too smart to choose which of investment that certainly will give the profit. Anyway casinos or betting sites is banned in some country, so I did not agree if that is the best type of bitcoin business to be created.
Live with the reality that gamblers are losing and casinos are winning and the volume of bitcoins being use in gambling on a daily basis is considerable so that would tell us to build an online casino if we have the capacity to do it..

Should be easy money for us here,and we will not look for any other investment.
1220  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Where to invist / store my Bitcoins? on: October 28, 2016, 04:46:31 AM
Don't trade it! or invest it! You will lose it all.

Please follow some of the advice here, store it. Hold it. Open a Coinbase where you can trade it to fiat right away.

For such a small about like 0.25B I would just hold it forever. If it gets to $0 so be it. If it gets to $10,000 thanks me later.
Holding will make you rich if the economy of bitcoin will be more progressive in the future but trading provide you an active income and you have the chance to grow your bitcoins so it is also one of the ways to consider in growing your money aside from investment.
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