...
As planned ?
The second planned fork was to clear out all the empty accounts used in the attacks.
Not fix something that could have been fixed in the first fork,if it had indeed been anticipated.
#clusterfuck
And that 2nd fork was not even mandatory to do it. they could skip it now they won't becouse another security hole have to be patched. I wonder how many tricks have that guy in hands. It doesn't matter really. HF is like update... Like Apple posts update for iOS. So if they need to make 100 HFs to make blockchain stable and impenetrable, let them do it and move on. In the end we will have perfect product. I think hard fork does matter. A lot. HF is not just another Apple update. You forgot to mention the most important part - community consensus (miners, devs, etc). Today's fork is due to security flaw in the protocol. The previous one was a moldy bailout for some "poor" funded application running on top of the protocol. So if another bailout fork like that will come some (sunny) day - we may see another group of the community forks. |
|
|
|
I think its a bit dissapointing that now you guys are busy and don't even want to launch and give the coins.
See to behonest, if you have earned enough from ICO and now dont want to let users earn, then better be straight to the point and say this
" we are scamming guys, thanks for the love but u idiots deserve getting scammed "
why are you delaying to a point when people will themselves lose interest ?
You are enjoying in HONG KONG with the money users spent in ICONOMI and this makes me even more frustrated
So in short " You had time to collect money but when it came to work for the money you guys feeling bored, right ? "
Enjoy the holidays and scam us , yes please ! but at least inform us , delaying to a period when everyone gets bored is even worse than scamming
RIP TO THE INVESTORS IN THIS DUMB PROJECT. REALLY A NEWBIE AND WE TRUSTED HIM, HUH ! ANYWAYS I WILL SELL ALL MY ICO RIGHT AWAY IF BY CHANCE WE GET IT, BECAUSE I DONT BELIEVE IN SUCH A SCAM TEAM THAT IS TOO LAZY TO WORK AND RATHER PREFER TO ENJOY HOLIDAYS.
congrats! you are NO.2 on my ignore list. ps' you don't seem very smart - not even for paid or frustrated troll |
|
|
|
Why can't you guys launch on ETC chain? I think it only had problem with DAO and that's why they forked it but does iconomi has the same issues as DAO? then why not launch it on ETC since it's the original ETH?
ETC is dead. Sorry. Why you think etc is dead? Cos only strongest survive, and ETH is strongest. actually it is the weakest does not survive (at least that is the original "jungle law"). I believe it is too soon to doom etc. Who knows, we still have PoS and few more forks ahead of us. Time will tell |
|
|
|
Are we receiving dividends? are you guys busy doing what you were suppose to do after launch?
Will you pay dividends for 15 days late launch delays?
Yes. One lambo per investor per week.  But as far as I remember we cannot choose the color, right? So unprofessional I will still try to answer the original question: from wiki: Dividend is a payment made by a corporation to its shareholders, (focus now, here is the important part) usually as a distribution of profitsProfits cannot be made as long as the platform is not operational. The timeline for the platform to go live is Q4 2016, as it was stated over and over again. |
|
|
|
So can you please define "bigger amounts" that must undergo "manual processing"? $100, $1,000, $10,000, $100,000 ? This must be disclosed to investors to insure "Equality of Opportunity".
Is is based on the "Withdraw Amount" or on the "Total amount in an ICN account"?
I would rather they didn't disclose the hot-wallet thresholds until well after distribution for safety reasons. I am ok with not revealing that info at all So they should first distribute to people who know how to use Ethereum wallets, then set manual withdraw requirement on any withdraw above $1000, or $5,000 or $10,000 etc... on people who don't know how to use Ethereum wallet  Way to game the markets... That doesn't sound fair, does it they should first distribute to people who know how to use Ethereum wallets And how do you suggest checking that, Einstein? Perhaps Iconomi team should conduct an ethereum wallet test for that?  |
|
|
|
So can you please define "bigger amounts" that must undergo "manual processing"? $100, $1,000, $10,000, $100,000 ? This must be disclosed to investors to insure "Equality of Opportunity".
Is is based on the "Withdraw Amount" or on the "Total amount in an ICN account"?
I would rather they didn't disclose the hot-wallet thresholds until well after distribution for safety reasons. I am ok with not revealing that info at all |
|
|
|
Can dividens may acumulate or need to withdraw?
they are yours to do whatever with: save, withdraw, or compound back in...  I'm hoping there will be an auto-compounding contract option made so I won't need to do it manually every week. auto-compounding contract option Dividends auto-investment option - me likes! |
|
|
|
Should everyone be apart from the test to be able to receive the real ICNs later ? or If this test works for a few people means that It will work for everyone else ?
Also , you said before that those who fail to put their addresses in their accounts , will be able to hold their ICNs in their ICONOMI accounts , If they suddenly decide to withdraw the ICNs from the account (after ICNs are issued) , would the withdrawal will be instant or we should wait hours/days/weeks ?
test-it ICN is means for testing for those who wanna make sure they will have access with real ICN contract. It's just a replica of a real contract with a bit modified values in it. If you wanna test it before launch fee free. If not, not a problem. Just make sure you have corresponding private key of a public address you provide to us. If you don't enter your address is not a problem. Withdrawal function will be available at the same time as genesis is launched. Withdrawals from our website for smaller amounts will be instant, but bigger amounts or in case we detect login from unknown device / IP / country / etc they will be processed manually. With that in mind. If you for sure want to send ICNs out the best is to enter your eth address right now. Why am I saying this. You might hit on manual withdrawal from our website as first thing. Second thing, let's be realistic. Maybe we'll get ddosed. We were down not more than 5mins during ICO (the rest of the time site was accessible normally at normal speed and all), but there was nothing else. I was surprised, especially because of the amount raised, but I guess our Domen did a good job. However, we can't explode that. With controlling ICN on your own, you are dependent only on the network. Reminder for all! If you didn't switched 2FA on (google authenticator is recommended here), switch it on right away. Withdrawals without 2FA won't be possible and once you turn it on it will take at least 36h before account with freshly turned 2FA on gets withdrawals enabled. Withdrawals from our website for smaller amounts will be instant, but bigger amounts or in case we detect login from unknown device / IP / country / etc they will be processed manually. Will you add email confirmation on top of 2FA? Will it be possible to configure manual processing for every withdraw (or consider adding it as future option if doesn't exist)? Email confirmation will be needed for withdrawal. You will need password, 2FA and email confirmation to trigger withdrawal. You won't be able to turn manual processing for every withdrawal. 10x! |
|
|
|
Should everyone be apart from the test to be able to receive the real ICNs later ? or If this test works for a few people means that It will work for everyone else ?
Also , you said before that those who fail to put their addresses in their accounts , will be able to hold their ICNs in their ICONOMI accounts , If they suddenly decide to withdraw the ICNs from the account (after ICNs are issued) , would the withdrawal will be instant or we should wait hours/days/weeks ?
test-it ICN is means for testing for those who wanna make sure they will have access with real ICN contract. It's just a replica of a real contract with a bit modified values in it. If you wanna test it before launch fee free. If not, not a problem. Just make sure you have corresponding private key of a public address you provide to us. If you don't enter your address is not a problem. Withdrawal function will be available at the same time as genesis is launched. Withdrawals from our website for smaller amounts will be instant, but bigger amounts or in case we detect login from unknown device / IP / country / etc they will be processed manually. With that in mind. If you for sure want to send ICNs out the best is to enter your eth address right now. Why am I saying this. You might hit on manual withdrawal from our website as first thing. Second thing, let's be realistic. Maybe we'll get ddosed. We were down not more than 5mins during ICO (the rest of the time site was accessible normally at normal speed and all), but there was nothing else. I was surprised, especially because of the amount raised, but I guess our Domen did a good job. However, we can't explode that. With controlling ICN on your own, you are dependent only on the network. Reminder for all! If you didn't switched 2FA on (google authenticator is recommended here), switch it on right away. Withdrawals without 2FA won't be possible and once you turn it on it will take at least 36h before account with freshly turned 2FA on gets withdrawals enabled. Withdrawals from our website for smaller amounts will be instant, but bigger amounts or in case we detect login from unknown device / IP / country / etc they will be processed manually. Will you add email confirmation on top of 2FA? Will it be possible to configure manual processing for every withdraw (or consider adding it as future option if doesn't exist)? |
|
|
|
Hi Jani,can you please swap my ico Account? I want ed to take Part of test icn
congrats! this post officially adds you to my ignore list |
|
|
|
do you guys think the price will move up right there and then when ICONOMI is released or will there be users dumping it first?
I've seen some coins the goes up first but they are just too few of them. the rest goes down every released on the exchanges.
Iconomi is not "some coin" but a platform (being developed, should go live this year) that will manage funds and provide weekly dividends to all ICN token holders (shareholders of that platform). It has real value in the real world, and is not another niche coin that aims to become the next big thing. As for your question - it depends on the market and the sell/buy pressure. Currently that sell/buy pressure is based on assumptions about the future potential and future speculations. I don't think that most of the tokens will be offered for sale in that early stage, which should generate more buy pressure, thus higher price Once the platform goes live with 2 operational funds, I believe the story will be different - up, up and UP. |
|
|
|
Hi everyone.
Quick update. I'm in HK with very limited time.
Just a few things. Account swapping is stopped from now on. I'll process all the pending ones, but new ones are not accepted anymore. If you want to sell your ICNs you'll have to wait for genesis and that's when it will hit exchanges.
We are staying on ETH. Lisk could be another option we would consider. However, in current state is not yet ready.
For sure we're not gonna build our own blockchain. This is not our game. We as well didn't build our own data center for our servers.
Edit: I would like to see more people like CoM1ner in this thread! Quality posts. Hats off!
Wow, a personal shout out from ICONOMI! Thank you so much! I am really looking forward to what you guys have to offer after the ball gets rolling. That really means a lot coming directly from you. Definitely will be saving your post and framing it  I know there is a whole lot your plate during ICONOMI's infancy so keep up the good work and stay positive and focused. You guys seem like a wise team and I wish you all the best of luck on your venture. A whole lot of people (3,508 to be exact!) are counting on you to succeed and the entire community is waiting to see what you guys have to offer. Good luck ICONOMI! Make us proud! A shout out because you deserve one. There are others I missed as well. MoveCrypto is very knowledgeable on the finance side. MrPresident, BitBansky, ShooterXD, Daparski, 5thangel, Mongwapogi are ones that I recall out of head for keeping discussion in the right way. And everyone else that don't use google translate (trolls are almost all on google translate) and make valuable contribution. Thanks Jani (I believe it is Jani). Sometimes it is not easy to follow the important information and quality dialog around here, and not because we are missing quality people I believe it is 100 times harder for you to follow since you have a lot on your plate right now. Thanks again for the efforts! I personally will keep following and contributing as much as I can - I love the project and the team behind it. ICO of 2016 by far for me! Can't wait for 2017.. |
|
|
|
Hi everyone.
Quick update. I'm in HK with very limited time.
Just a few things. Account swapping is stopped from now on. I'll process all the pending ones, but new ones are not accepted anymore. If you want to sell your ICNs you'll have to wait for genesis and that's when it will hit exchanges.
We are staying on ETH. Lisk could be another option we would consider. However, in current state is not yet ready.
For sure we're not gonna build our own blockchain. This is not our game. We as well didn't build our own data center for our servers.
Edit: I would like to see more people like CoM1ner in this thread! Quality posts. Hats off!
Wow, a personal shout out from ICONOMI! Thank you so much! I am really looking forward to what you guys have to offer after the ball gets rolling. That really means a lot coming directly from you. Definitely will be saving your post and framing it I know there is a whole lot your plate during ICONOMI's infancy so keep up the good work and stay positive and focused. You guys seem like a wise team and I wish you all the best of luck on your venture. A whole lot of people (3,508 to be exact!) are counting on you to succeed and the entire community is waiting to see what you guys have to offer. Good luck ICONOMI! Make us proud! You deserve it. One of the best posts around here for long time. Share more thoughts if you have |
|
|
|
I can't wait to sell this ICN crap  Tell me how ICONOMI is responsible for the problems of Ethereum, please. ETh is not that bad i could download whole blockchain in 2h : ) 35GB... When i tryied to download some othe coisn 1GB-2GB it took days. Lucky you! It took more than one day for me to download ETH blockchain.. perhaps your internet connection is slow. I managed to download the entire ether blockchain in ~ 3hours on 15Mb DSL connection |
|
|
|
IMHO,. Iconomi deserves its own blockcain. Why couldn't a separate blockchain interact with an ethereum smart contract? Then expand the platform's limits with DApp development. And give investors the option to choose how individual dividends are paid whether it be Lisk or Eth. Why put 3500 *+ investor's trust and value at risk (especially fiat investors) because Iconomi's success is currently dependent on Ethereum. Stratis released its own blockchain built to create private blockchains for a fraction of Iconomi's ICO investments. If others understand where I'm getting at... I think its fair to vote on a better solution such as an independent blockchain. And do this by treating every account as a delegate. Personally I would rather wait until Iconomi has the best opportunity to go public then go out on a limb with Ethers current status on work load stability. I bet we would have easily seen 21000 BTC if the DAO hack never happened...
PS: I really like the idea behind Iconomi but I'd rather get dividends in lisk.
Ethereum: - consistent $4MM+ daily trade volume can easily absorb $10k to $100k+ worth of dividends going out every week - most nodes out of any crypto (7000+) means very decentralized network - cost of sending out 6000 dividend transactions every week on ethereum: 2.5 minutes and 13.5 ETH ($160) on bitcoin: 30 minutes and 1.5 BTC ($960) - 2nd highest hashrate of any crypto (6 TH/s) means very hard to alter a transaction once it has been written to blockchain As you can see, Ethereum is currently the only blockchain where it is feasible to launch a huge, dividend-paying project on. Ethereum is the only blockchain with a history of supporting tokens on its' chain with $100+ million market cap. Better to pay ethereum miners fees to use their network, than it would be to pay several developers to maintain a new ICN chain, which would be more centralized and less secure than ethereum. Now Iconomi can focus on fund management and building fund management platform, instead of wasting time and money trying to maintain and grow a blockchain. How did you get to 6,000 dividends when there are 3508 ICO participants? Also not sure how you got the TX fees numbers |
|
|
|
I can prove Liqui is scam. They haven't even posted members names of the team behind it. Just a picture of 4 team members, which too appears photoshoped. When I asked on Telegram the names of team members, they said- Liqui Exchange: yes of course, when we will ready to white label - we will update all info Me: Can you please at least give name of team members? Liqui Exchange: Yes we can, our team is well known is Ukraine/Russia - dont worry http://whois.easycounter.com/btc-e.nethttp://whois.easycounter.com/btc-e.netMe: Names? Liqui Exchange: Once again, when we decide to publish this - we will do this. Me: But why are you hiding this.? Liqui Exchange: It is our founders solution at that moment, Im support guy - cant provide you with this infotmation unfortunatelly Now you only decide. I haven't seen a legit website which is not ready to disclose the names of team members. If you don't trust me, try asking these questions to them in Telegram or I can give you screenshots as proof too. Oh, lol. You are funny man. "I haven't seen a legit website which is not ready to disclose the names of team members" - what about btc-e?  Yeah, you are correct. But I can see at least see little information about them at http://whois.easycounter.com/btc-e.netFor liqui, there is negligible information- http://domainbigdata.com/liqui.ioOkay, leave btc-e , talk about yourself. You are uploading false pics of team members. You claim that your team is well known in Ukraine, Russia. If you don't want to disclose the team members, why are you claiming to be trusted. If Anyone here is from Russia,/Ukraine please let us know what you know about the team. Please check this pic and help us identify them.  I'm sure, if your team is well known it would be identified by some people. You won't get respond on that one, the picture looks photoshop job to me. Maybe they will deliver what promised in their site. Time will tell For now it just looks awful fishy |
|
|
|
OKAY GUYS HERE'S the DEAL ON ESCROW IF YOU WANT: (From Jani)
It works like this: - you find buyer or seller finds buyer. I don't do anything here. Matchmaking is not an option. Then both mail me to this email with ": ( jani@iconomi.net) "email should be between all of us" Do not contact seperate, no time for matchmaker service. (edited by request.) - seller's email on ico.iconomi.net (mailing needs to be from that email) - seller needs to tell amount of ICN on his/her account - buyer sends btc/eth/lsk address - which email buyer wants to have for this account (we're swapping full accounts only to emails previously not on ico.iconomi.net - technical reasons) I confirm that account has that amount. And send my address (btc/eth/lsk). Then: - buyer sends btc/eth/lsk to my address - within a day I exchange account, send an email to the buyer to confirm - after buyer confirmation i send whatever I received -- Jani Valjavec Co-founder & CTO Hello to all. If someone want to move their ICN tokens to Liqui - contact Iconomi team. We are open for cooperation.So how can we make sure that IOU ICN is the real iconomi? Can we Make sure that we can get our withdrawals if we would get it? This thing is mostly i want to ask with you since you starting the IOU first and surely many people would get doubts for this announcement but anyways its a good move for your site since you can gather people to try do trades in your site.. We answer already numerous times. Again - we invest customers funds to ICO Iconomi, we provide all transactions id. So it is obvious that these IOU tokens real. And now according to Jani's post, everyone can move their ICO cabinet balance to Liqui ICO cabinet balance. After we see this happened - we credited your Liqui exchange account with equal amount of ICN. You can sell them and withdraw btc immediately or wait until network will launch and withdraw ICN.P.S. Please lets discuss this option here - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1636917.100, avoiding clutter up this thread. why don't you share this info? 1. Liqui should show a proof (screenshot) of their FINAL amount of ICN tokens
2. Liqui should show a proof that they have less than that final amount of IOUs reserved in orders You talk about something you know ... I personally bought and sold it from the beginning Liqui without any problem. I have some coins alí and remove four btc without any problem, so shut up loudmouth. good for you. It still doesn't prove that you are Liqui shill or that they don't need to provide that information, since the entire concept of IOUs is based on TRUST.. Ans they were extremely chatty around here, but somehow failed to respond to that simple request.. But maybe it is just me.. You are free to donate your BTC anyplace you like You know someone who has lost their money in Liqui? Yourself to Liqui operated in the platform and lost its btc for fraud? You did an analysis of the platform to defame that liqui is a scam? If you have evidence that it is a scam Liqui his words are the scam so you better shut up and respect a little please. I never said that people lost their money, but that people MAY (you know the difference, right?). For me it is not legit as long as they don't provide the above proofs. The fact that it has been asked more than once, and still some "happy customers" keep posting here just makes me feel more confident about my posts. If you are new, small exchange that is looking to make it, there is a way to start, especially when you deal with IOU tokens. Sending out people to write posts here is not the right way to start. Or perhaps you think that what I asked for is too much to ask from 4 guys new exchange that is selling promises for tokens? Hi, Daparski. We just do not understand what are you want to figure out. We invest BTC in ICO Iconomi (providing Txid, you saw this post). You can't calculate by yourself final amount of ICN we have? Thats very simple. Again special for you - our customers investments to ICO Iconomi is cryptographically verified, all info is open for everyone. Instead of make your own research and receive all answers on your questions, you ask again and again simple questions. It is look like usual trolling, sorry. (that why we dont respond to you). I find it neither simple, nor trustworthy. You should have a VISIBLE and public proof of your FINAL ICN tokens amount. The only time you sent a screenshot it was ESTIMATED amount. So if everybody can see the TX id, why did you shared that info? Why not the final amount? More important, at all time you need to provide proof that you have less than that final ICN amount locked in orders. If it does not make sense to you, or asking about that makes you feel like trolling - well, let's agree to disagree. Good luck with that customer-oriented approach |
|
|
|
It is very easy (already posted it here). If you, or anyone else considers buying IUO tokens, the very least that needs to be verified is:
1. Liqui should show a proof (screenshot) of their FINAL amount of ICN tokens
2. Liqui should show a proof that they have less than that final amount of IOUs reserved in orders
You want a screenshot as a proof? Yeah, Photoshop-Phillip will do this for you, that's for sure. common, the screenshot will need to be validated by Iconomi team.. That is basic.. |
|
|
|
OKAY GUYS HERE'S the DEAL ON ESCROW IF YOU WANT: (From Jani)
It works like this: - you find buyer or seller finds buyer. I don't do anything here. Matchmaking is not an option. Then both mail me to this email with ": ( jani@iconomi.net) "email should be between all of us" Do not contact seperate, no time for matchmaker service. (edited by request.) - seller's email on ico.iconomi.net (mailing needs to be from that email) - seller needs to tell amount of ICN on his/her account - buyer sends btc/eth/lsk address - which email buyer wants to have for this account (we're swapping full accounts only to emails previously not on ico.iconomi.net - technical reasons) I confirm that account has that amount. And send my address (btc/eth/lsk). Then: - buyer sends btc/eth/lsk to my address - within a day I exchange account, send an email to the buyer to confirm - after buyer confirmation i send whatever I received -- Jani Valjavec Co-founder & CTO Hello to all. If someone want to move their ICN tokens to Liqui - contact Iconomi team. We are open for cooperation.So how can we make sure that IOU ICN is the real iconomi? Can we Make sure that we can get our withdrawals if we would get it? This thing is mostly i want to ask with you since you starting the IOU first and surely many people would get doubts for this announcement but anyways its a good move for your site since you can gather people to try do trades in your site.. We answer already numerous times. Again - we invest customers funds to ICO Iconomi, we provide all transactions id. So it is obvious that these IOU tokens real. And now according to Jani's post, everyone can move their ICO cabinet balance to Liqui ICO cabinet balance. After we see this happened - we credited your Liqui exchange account with equal amount of ICN. You can sell them and withdraw btc immediately or wait until network will launch and withdraw ICN.P.S. Please lets discuss this option here - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1636917.100, avoiding clutter up this thread. why don't you share this info? 1. Liqui should show a proof (screenshot) of their FINAL amount of ICN tokens
2. Liqui should show a proof that they have less than that final amount of IOUs reserved in orders You talk about something you know ... I personally bought and sold it from the beginning Liqui without any problem. I have some coins alí and remove four btc without any problem, so shut up loudmouth. good for you. It still doesn't prove that you are Liqui shill or that they don't need to provide that information, since the entire concept of IOUs is based on TRUST.. Ans they were extremely chatty around here, but somehow failed to respond to that simple request.. But maybe it is just me.. You are free to donate your BTC anyplace you like You know someone who has lost their money in Liqui? Yourself to Liqui operated in the platform and lost its btc for fraud? You did an analysis of the platform to defame that liqui is a scam? If you have evidence that it is a scam Liqui his words are the scam so you better shut up and respect a little please. I never said that people lost their money, but that people MAY (you know the difference, right?). For me it is not legit as long as they don't provide the above proofs. The fact that it has been asked more than once, and still some "happy customers" keep posting here just makes me feel more confident about my posts. If you are new, small exchange that is looking to make it, there is a way to start, especially when you deal with IOU tokens. Sending out people to write posts here is not the right way to start. Or perhaps you think that what I asked for is too much to ask from 4 guys new exchange that is selling promises for tokens? |
|
|
|
OKAY GUYS HERE'S the DEAL ON ESCROW IF YOU WANT: (From Jani)
It works like this: - you find buyer or seller finds buyer. I don't do anything here. Matchmaking is not an option. Then both mail me to this email with ": ( jani@iconomi.net) "email should be between all of us" Do not contact seperate, no time for matchmaker service. (edited by request.) - seller's email on ico.iconomi.net (mailing needs to be from that email) - seller needs to tell amount of ICN on his/her account - buyer sends btc/eth/lsk address - which email buyer wants to have for this account (we're swapping full accounts only to emails previously not on ico.iconomi.net - technical reasons) I confirm that account has that amount. And send my address (btc/eth/lsk). Then: - buyer sends btc/eth/lsk to my address - within a day I exchange account, send an email to the buyer to confirm - after buyer confirmation i send whatever I received -- Jani Valjavec Co-founder & CTO Hello to all. If someone want to move their ICN tokens to Liqui - contact Iconomi team. We are open for cooperation.So how can we make sure that IOU ICN is the real iconomi? Can we Make sure that we can get our withdrawals if we would get it? This thing is mostly i want to ask with you since you starting the IOU first and surely many people would get doubts for this announcement but anyways its a good move for your site since you can gather people to try do trades in your site.. We answer already numerous times. Again - we invest customers funds to ICO Iconomi, we provide all transactions id. So it is obvious that these IOU tokens real. And now according to Jani's post, everyone can move their ICO cabinet balance to Liqui ICO cabinet balance. After we see this happened - we credited your Liqui exchange account with equal amount of ICN. You can sell them and withdraw btc immediately or wait until network will launch and withdraw ICN.P.S. Please lets discuss this option here - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1636917.100, avoiding clutter up this thread. why don't you share this info? 1. Liqui should show a proof (screenshot) of their FINAL amount of ICN tokens
2. Liqui should show a proof that they have less than that final amount of IOUs reserved in orders You talk about something you know ... I personally bought and sold it from the beginning Liqui without any problem. I have some coins alí and remove four btc without any problem, so shut up loudmouth. good for you. It still doesn't prove that you are not Liqui shill or that they don't need to provide that information, since the entire concept of IOUs is based on TRUST.. Ans they were extremely chatty around here, but somehow failed to respond to that simple request.. But maybe it is just me.. You are free to donate your BTC anyplace you like |
|
|
|
|
Show Posts
