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Kako se spojiti na #bitcoin IRC kanal?Bitne informacijeNetwork: irc.freenode.net
Port: 6697 (sa SSL/TLS enkripcijom)
Channel: ##bitcoin-hr
Što je to IRC?IRC je protokol za instantno komuniciranje između više ljudi na internetu. To je jako dobar način komuniciranja sa drugim osobama koje se zanimaju za Bitcoin.
Kako se spojiti na IRC?
Kako da zaštitim svoje korisničko ime? (Neobavezno)IRC nema koncept računa; bilo tko se može jednostavno spojit sa nekim imenom i početi razgovarati. Međutim postoji opcija da se zaštiti ime putem lozinke kako se netko drugi ne bi mogao prijaviti s vašim imenom: - Upiši /nick [svoje-novo-ime] dok ne vidiš ovu poruku koja potvrđuje da je vaše ime već zaštićeno.
-NickServ- This nickname is registered. Please choose a different nickname, or identify via /msg NickServ identify <password>.- Za registraciju korisničkog imena, tipkaj:
/msg NickServ register <lozinka> <email adresa> NickServ će potom informirati o uspješnom registriranju korisničkog imena, i onda te uputiti da provjeriš email.
- Pritisni CTRL+S da se opet pojavi popis mreža. Upiši istu lozinku. Stavi ##bitcoin-hr u "Autojoin Channels" i označi "Connect to this network automatically" da se klijent automatski spoji pri svakom pokretanju.
 To je sve!
Korisni kanali na Freenode mreži: - #bitcoin - glavni kanal
- ##bitcoin - kanal za off-topic
- #electrum - kanal Electrum Bitcoin Walleta
- #p2pool - peer-to-peer bitcoin rudarenje
- #bitcoin-otc - trgovina bitcoin na bazi OTC
- #joinmarket - bitcoin privatne transakcije s coinjoin
- #localbitcoins-chat - kanal za localbitcoins.com
- #bitsquare - decentralizirana Bitcoin mjenjačnica
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I don't see him in DT1:  |
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Have you tried reporting the problem to Google? I did see something of that sort as I was testing something without Ad blocker and instantly reported it. Here's the link: Report phishing. |
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What do YOU think is going to happen, transfer the coins to an exchange, sell them for pennies on the dollar, and have to explain to the jackboots where their millions came from?
I've told you what I think. Either theymos is trolling himself (proposing something that can't be done), or he can. You stop trolling.
No and no. If I wanted someone to decide which of my actions are rational and which are not, I'd stay under nanny state's skirts.
It's obvious that you are unable to determine what is rational and what isn't. A handful of core players control this forum, the bitcoin reddit, the alert keys, the github, and bitcoin.org. <<< this equals bitcoin consensus
Actually they don't control this forum. |
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If Satoshi does not want those coins used, he has already destroyed the private key. They will not be used. Ever. By anyone. If Satoshi wants those coins to use, who are we to tell him otherwise?
What do you mean by 'destroyed the private key'? That does not prevent the "Quantum problem" at all. Why des everyone assume that as soon as quantum crooks get their thieving paws (which exist in all states prior to t=0) on pre-2012 coins, that they'll immediately dump them, with mindnumbing slippage, on the market?
What do you think is going to happen? They're going to transfer the coins to another address and wait? I doubt that. Protected from everyone but theymos, that is.
Stop trolling. Theymos can't have an effect in this case (i.e. can't destroy anyone's coins). I do think that is unreasonable. If people don't want to move their old coins, that's their choice.
And you would want to keep coins in unsafe encryption because of what exactly? "It's their choice" is not really an argument when the action is very irrational. |
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Start by:
1) Reading the forum rules and guidelines.
2) Creating threads in the proper section.
If you are going to do something just in order to gain trust, then you are doing it wrong and will most likely end up getting negative trust in the process.
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I completely understand the sentiment, however, the problem here is similar to that of the problem with colored coins. It sets a precedent that threatens fungibility. If you bury a fortune of cash in coffee cans and someone else digs it up, you can't expect the issuing government to void the bills. The bitcoin development team and miners should absolutely be doing less than a government when it comes to controlling what users (including bad actors) do with the tokens. Providing a way to protect said tokens against new threats is a must to keep the project alive, but preventing the use of tokens that weren't protected using that provision is a huge no-no.
The analogy would only fit if the user either was dead or had no access to their own coins anymore. However, I absolutely understand both your and theymos'es view on this matter. The similar goes with HF's, it would set up a precedent that we do not want in the system. You make a very valid point as I disagree giving the development team and/or miners more "power" than they already have. It would however be quite unfortunate to see (e.g.) satoshi's coins being moved and directly dumped in the future due to weak encryption (but it is what it is). |
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Additionally, you are suffering from a common misperception that one person owns all of the old coins.
I too believe that this is not the case, and we can't really know for sure either. While said dead people may have made plans while alive to provide access to said coins, in cases where they did not, those coins will either remain at those addresses forever (unlikely unless we wipe ourselves out since technology never stops improving) or be taken by bad actors (not the end of the world, but what Theymos is worrying about).
Exactly. The people that were quick to jump to conclusions here have not done their share of research and thinking. Theymos makes a fair point here. There is no way to truly fix this unless the encryption is so badly broken that the coins are already stolen, so either a bad actor gets the coins, or nobody does. I believe the original vision of bitcoin would most likely indicate that the bad actor gets the coins, however, you need to understand that they likely don't move until we're dead and that Satoshi and/or other dead people don't get them either way.
I don't think that giving a grace period for them to move coins out of addresses with weak encryption and then 'locking' them or something is unreasonable. I'd rather have my coins be lost than some bad actor acquiring them and just dumping them for fiat. -snip or trolling.
That's what it is. |
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Bitcoin fed is fighting inflation with tighter money supply, this will drive up the price of bitcoin, probably.
"Bitcoin fed", "fighting"? No. This halving is part of the initial 'rules' set up by Satoshi. It's also correct that miners who already run at the edge of cost efficiency without any reserve assets might have to quit mining if price shouldn't increase in the future.
Indeed. Small miners will get pushed out of the 'mining race' once again, nothing new about this though. Bitcoin halving occurs every 210,000 blocks. What it does is halves the block reward. Right now the block reward is 25 Bitcoin, that will be halved to 12.5 Bitcoin when we reach 420,000 blocks.
For those that are not familiar with it, there's a very nice website that keep track of the ETA: Bitcoin Clock. |
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am i allowed to post an auction about something which is getting offers outside this site?
What do you mean exactly? An auction that would be able to receive offers both on the forum and outside at the same time? Would this be considered as referral spam?
If there is no referral link to that website, then no. Otherwise, the answer is most likely yes. |
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That is not a good list at all. He adds way more people than just sig campaigns and doesn't verify or look into people he puts on his list. If you want to ignore practically *everyone* on this forum, this is probably a good list to use.
It is actually a very good list and not big enough. He's practically ignoring most people who's majority of posts are not worth your time. Spoetnik is one I've had on my list for a long time.
Amph is another one, even worse than him.
At least Spoetnik can be entertaining, Amph is just plain old zero-value content.
OP I don't think that this is a good idea at all. This is bound to attract attention, attract hostility and drama (once a lot of people reveal their lists). Are you sure that you've thought this one through? |
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For example, if somebody just create one million private keys and run one million wallet programs at the same time, he would much likely receive some output that paid to one or more private keys (addresses maybe) he generated, and thus steals others' money
I'm not sure what you exactly mean by this. If you are talking about possible collisions, then that is statistically impossible (highly improbable*): There are 2^160 possible addresses (IIRC), which equals to: ~1,460,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000. Vanitygen can produce 20 million keypairs per second. Lets say you build a super ASIC on 12nm (4 generations ahead of current tech) process that could create, validate, and steal one trillion keypairs per second (1 TK/s). That would be about 50,000x more powerful than faster GPU today. Lets also say you built a thousand of them and ran them continually with no downtime 24/7/365. In 1 year you could brute force 3*10^28 possible addresses.
If there are 1 quadrillion funded addresses you would still have a ~1% chance of colliding with a random funded address in the next 1,000 years.
People just aren't aware of how huge these numbers are. |
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If I recall correctly, this coin is long due. Was it not planned for May/April?
It was, but there were many unforeseen obstacles to tackle. It's the very reason I have no date set in stone for opening sales yet.  Are you still going to sell it at the same price point that you had back in mind then? Don't forget everything that I've told you in IRC either. Don't rush the coin. We can wait, as long as they come out as nicely as they look in that picture.
What's the small writing beneath the BTC logo?
It's possibly 'miffman 2016' as one of the designs had that. |
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Yeah and the strange thing is this tends to happen only on Bitcoin exchanges. Correct me if I am wrong but I haven't seen such a breach in online Bitcoin wallets. I think either some greedy people at the exchanges want to profit quickly off the hard-earned money of their customers or someone high-up maybe a CEO deliberately allows outside hackers to siphon out funds and splits a portion with them in exchange for their services. Blaming hackers for the breach in security is just a shoddy way of avoiding liability.
While this might be a bit off topic here, I'll gladly respond as you make a point. When I really think about it, it is usually the exchanges that "get hacked". While I know many examples of exchanges that suffered 'hacks', I don't know a single online wallet that suffered a huge hack aside from Inputs.io (which was 3 years ago). In that case, it was also about a big sum of Bitcoin so it is very questionable whether it was a hack or not. Now when it comes to the community, while these hacks have caused losses (I avoided each and every one of those, even if I had an account e.g. Inputs.io, Cryptsy and such) it kind-of makes the community more stronger. The general advice is to not store large amounts of money online, not in wallet nor exchanges. If we focus back to the OP, I don't think that this very incident had a negative effect in the community. It seemed like most people were on the same side. |
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I think the evidence points he is scammer instead. He convinced media he might be Satoshi for a brief moment - thats enought for simple people trusting what media publish to invest money to him thinking Craig Wright really get access to the 1 million Bitcoins later - classic Nigeria princ scam example, but there is always someone stupid enought to get catch to these scams.
Why would he not be able both? Sociopaths are able to play the role of a victim very well, and I think that is what he tried to do with that last blog post. However, the whole situation seemed like some sort of 'test' that both the market and the community have passed. The nature of bitcoin as we adjust to having different views on where we all see bitcoin going and jockey for positioning in pushing our views to the masses.
There is a difference between having a discussion with people with opposing views and having a "war". Discussions with people who want to participate in such a "war" are usually futile. I bang my head constantly as I see no need for regulation and many here want that to profit off and make bitcoin more mainstream. Not against the latter view just do not think bitcoin needs to submit to government pressures and that is where I splinter off from most here.
That's something worth discussing in another thread. |
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