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ONE game for sale TODAY ONLY! Get any steam game of your choice based on the above terms. See my trade history here and in the trusted traders thread. Send me a PM, or post here if you have questions. Thanks.
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"Rather, jurors delivered zero guilty verdicts. Three defendants, all workers, were acquitted as well as Kahre’s mother, who worked as a runner for her son’s businesses. Two other defendants were partly acquitted — the jury hung on one count each. The jury also hung on all counts faced by Kahre, Loglia and Kahre’s sister, resulting in mistrials." http://www.rapidtrends.com/robert-kahre-vs-the-irs-and-doj/Fact recheck - he was not convicted that case from 2003. At that point he became part of the IRS shitlist. The link you posted: http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2009/nov/17/businessman-robert-kahre-sentenced-tax-fraud-schem/is from 2009. This time he was convicted - mind you, because he declared the capitol he owned in federal reserve notes in order to leverage them for loan applications. He claimed the face value of the coin to the IRS and the federal reserve note market value of the coin on his loan application. He made two primary mistakes which I specifically mentioned earlier. 1) He converted his coins into federal reserve notes (by receiving FRNs from the bank based on that as collateral) 2) He consented to declaring a federal reserve note value of the capitol by simply filling out the application and signing it. The federal reserve system is VOLUNTARY. If you do not use the system you are not liable for taxes paid into it. The moment you use federal reserve notes you give your consent to being bound by this contractual agreement. Most people don't understand that your income taxes don't go to build roads and schools, 100% of it goes directly to the PRIVATE bank known as the federal reserve. All the services that help maintain our communities are paid for with your property and sales taxes within the state. This system is a giant black hole imploding our economy, as well as the worlds. For the love of god stop feeding it! |
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You much be the designated provocateur for the evening. Welcome. Hmm perhaps we should put it on their radar. Maybe I will write the IRS and ask for guidance, specifically linking them to the wiki, this thread and perhaps threads such as this one. I am quite sure that the IRS would be more than happy to help U.S. Citizens meet their tax obligations. Afterwords don't forget to bathe in chum and go swimming in the ocean. |
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But this tax business? How do you propose we fund the public services that keep us ... Well, alive, and for the most part roving armed pillage gang free?
100% of your income tax goes to The Federal Reserve Bank, a PRIVATE banking institution. See The Grace Commission Report for more info. The services you are talking about are paid for by property and sales taxes. |
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As far as I understand it the rule is you owe capital gains the moment you receive federal reserve notes (or other national fiat reserve notes in some cases) . What was previously stated by Grant seems to be my understanding. At the end of the tax year you tally up all the notes spent and notes earned and the result is the actual gain that is taxed. In order for the IRS to collect taxes the need to be able to assign a market value for the capital in question. If some one was looking to reduce their tax liability even further you could use Bitcoins in exchange for other capital, or goods you use every day which are usually purchased with federal reserve notes. By doing so this further complicates the tax liability issue for the IRS because the burden of proof is now on them to assign a market value to 2 goods instead of just 1. Another pitfall to avoid is assigning a dollar value to any item ever. Legal tender means you are required to accept it for debts, but no where does it say that that you must convert to FRNs or use them as a index of value. A quick search on "linden tax revolt" will show a plethora of stories related to the subject we are discussing here. There are very clear differences between Bitcoins and Linden Dollars (second life currency), but these precedents could pave the way for future taxation issues with Bitcoin. A similar taxation question is raised in regard to the silver and gold bullion that is constitutionally required to be issued by the federal government of the US. It may for example have a face value of $1, but contain metal bullion that is worth $35 to $50 in metal value alone. Since this coin is legal tender, you can legally accept it as payment at face value, and again the capital gains tax liability issue comes up at the moment of conversion back to FRNs. "No Federal Court of Appeals has ever ruled that the gold coins in question must be reported to the IRS based on FRN market value." http://www.rapidtrends.com/robert-kahre-vs-the-irs-and-doj/This is an example of this tax strategy taken to the extreme. In this case the individual won. Others were not so educated. Again and again he downfall seems to be declaring the Federal Reserve Note value of any of the capital in question. Without willingly doing so yourself you leave the burden of proof on the IRS to establish market value. This is not an easy thing to do with a volatile economy like precious metals or even Bitcoins. As with any individual challenging the status quo (lawfully or otherwise), the path is bound to be filled with pitfalls. It is a question of how far you as an individual choose to go in freeing yourself economically or otherwise. Corporate society is structured in such a way to make sure that the tax liability is pinned onto the end user, and not the corporation. They can mandate the use of federal reserve notes because they are a private entity. You can choose not to deal with them, but this is simply not an option, or too difficult in some industries. Because they assign an FRN value to the goods and services, you thru completing this transaction in FRNs contractually agree to the FRN market value of the capital. Don't use federal reserve notes. Don't assign a federal reserve note market value to any capital. The only winning strategy is not to play. Again back to the strategy of never declaring Federal Reserve note value to any capital, you have precious metals investors long aware of this situation to some degree. Now enter Bitcoin, a system that not only separates the metal value from the FRN system, it also creates a possibility for near complete anonymity (if you make the effort), as well as a decentralized payment processing structure that has no reporting obligations to the IRS. I predict this is going to create a HUGE inductive effect to metals investors. This is already happening to some degree on the forum, especially with silver prices stagnating lately and BTC going thru the roof. Precious metals and Bitcoin are a marriage made in heaven, and they will produce many offspring. |
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As a future medical professional I see this as absurd.
Some one doesn't like being cut out of the gravy train. BTW, has anyone here even heard of a single person you know EVER get sold fake antibiotics? Additionally antibiotics are a low margin product. Why would someone take all the time and money to counterfeit something that will sell for very little? Sounds to me like that is your medical indoctrination talking. |
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I think bitbodega.com is still available xD
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There are still a handful left but clearly people are seeing the future potential of this system. I spent a good hour or so just to find 2 good ones.
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It seems to me that loading a version of bitcoin on a computer, disconnecting it from the net, deleting the first wallet.dat file, then generating a new one which is then encrypted is fairly secure. If you then generate a list of addresses, and securely overwrite the wallet.dat file after making an encrypted copy, you can just mine or accept transactions on one wallet.dat file, then when you build up a decent sum deposit it in your secure address for saving. If you only open it to send payments out it seems reasonably secure to me. If some one was really determined of course they could still get it, but there are ways to mitigate that risk such as storing it on a USB drive, or spreading out your savings to several wallet.dat files.
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Of course, if you are a libertarian this can only be a good thing. The well being of the individual is always more important than the group....
Yes, you are right - people should remain ill and possibly die because some government or private entity deems them unworthy of treatment. This argument about restricting use is more about maintaining the salaries of MDs and not so much about the public health. The medical industry in the USA is all about selling perpetual treatments, and not very often a cure. There is far more evidence to suggest that most antibiotic resistant bacteria strains come from animal produce (which are mandated by law to be pumped full of antibiotics), as well as hospital decontamination chemicals rather than over use of antibiotics. "It's an important mission, as industrial agriculture is the country's largest antibiotic user: Animals consume nearly 70% of these meds, perhaps more than 24 million pounds a year, says the Union of Concerned Scientists. " http://www.prevention.com/health/nutrition/smart-shopping/the-superbug-in-your-supermarket/article/9b99ce1071ff1210VgnVCM10000030281eac____"For the study, the researchers purchased 289 raw meat samples, including 156 beef, 76 chicken and 57 turkey samples, from 30 grocery stores in Detroit from August 2009 through January 2010. The researchers found that 22.5 percent of the samples were contaminated with S. aureus and six samples tested positive for MRSA. Of the six samples contaminated with MRSA, two were beef, three were chicken and one was turkey, the researchers said." http://health.lfx8.com/20110522/u-s-supermarket-meat-contains-mrsa-germ-study/""Staph" bacteria is nothing to fool around with-it can cause everything from a rash to life-threatening sepsis and endocarditis. And because we've consumed so many antibiotics, the staph bacteria isn't easily controllable by drugs. In fact, in the tests done by study researchers at the Translational Genomics Research Institute, 47 percent of the meat contained bacteria resistant to three types of antibiotics." http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/04/15/staph-bacteria-us-meat_n_849730.html http://www.slashfood.com/videos-partner/journalist-maryn-mckenna-discusses-the-mrsa-epidemic-500516877-207EDIT: BTW he is completely right when he says this is 100% legal in the US. |
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Actually I still have enough for 1 or 2 more games. I am not sure why you thought it was invalid. PM with the requested info. I will be around for a few hours.
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+1 to hardly
+1 to Maxxx
+1 to ron
Thanks guys!
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Thanks for betting on the newb guys. I still have enough for a few more, who is game?
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TY sir. Sounds good. PM me with the info and I will send.
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Have any trade history to refer to? It seems you have participated in the forum, but to me that doesn't necessarily translate to trustworthiness. Not that I have any reason to suspect you but it seems that pretty much everyone here errs on the side of caution so I figure it is probably a good idea to follow suit.
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If this piece is still available please PM me.
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I would like to see a good rep here, send me a PM please.
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