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12181  Economy / Economics / Re: Best way for steady income on: July 19, 2016, 07:15:22 AM
If we are not talking about bitcoins, the best way is to create your own buisness and start earning money, food sphere is the best for this at my opinion.
Yeah! having a business will provide your a steady income because you are earning on a daily basis but you also have to operate profitably in order for you to run your business in a longer period of time.

In every business it requires effort and management so that it would survive for long time and give you passive income when the time comes that your business is on demand. Even though its a little bit tiring but youll need it to make your business grow..
Of course because that is your own business and whatever the result is you are the only one who will benefit, that is the beauty of having a business rather than playing safe in life working for someone else.
12182  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Should I invest in bitcoin casinos? on: July 19, 2016, 07:09:36 AM
I have $3000 USD to invest, is it worth it?

What sort of returns should I expect
In general casinos are very profitable.  It the most promising industry. So yes if they are running correctly.
I agree, casino is one of the most profitable business, just make sure the casino reputation or casino website before you put your money, you need to make sure the casino is not a scam, if you think all of that is legit then investing in casino will be very profitable
Right now, it is easy to find a good casino with high reputation, we just need to raise a good capital to invest to have a wonder stay in a certain gambling sites.

Investing is easy because it does not require to much time before we can put our money.
12183  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling. Is It Wrong? on: July 19, 2016, 07:03:12 AM
Of course there is nothing wrong with gambling.

As everything in life "the dose makes the poison", meaning that as long as you don't exceed yourself and get everything under control, so it does no become an addiction, you should be fine (same as drinking, or any other habits that can go wrong, if you loose yourself).

Control your decisions, control your life. Gambling is not bad if you really know how to control and to be contented.

True maybe wrong is when we are greedy in gambling that resulted in us losing a lot of money. If we have control and gambling has no effect on our lives, it is not wrong in my opinion. We must have control of the bet and not greedy.
Controlling yourself is very important not only in gambling, even in temptation with girls that is also bad as it will lead to negative outcome. Gambling usually played for fun but without self control that will be abuse and will result to disaster.
12184  Economy / Speculation / Re: bitcoin continuous rising? on: July 19, 2016, 06:55:50 AM
Due to how the market rake of bitcoin is,  i think it will keep on rising even up to 1000/btc before this year runs out

Hopefully the price of bitcoin is going to reach $1,000 and it means that bitcoin is keep on continuous rising. And not just the price is going to have effect as it is rising.
But also the people are going to adopt bitcoins for sure and more stores are going to adopt it.
We are hopping for that price but there are possibility of price down if the demand would not increasing that is why bitcoin needs us to promote to the people and it also benefits us if there is massive adopting happens.
The demand is increasing everyday that's why the price is also increasing. With this rate that is happening now we are on the safe side in seeing that our bitcoins will grow in the near future.
 
Massive adoption will happen in time and that is where big companies are accepting bitcoins already.
12185  Economy / Economics / Re: What is your best investment strategy? on: July 19, 2016, 03:25:32 AM
Yeah! soon but not very soon because we need time to see the massive adoption from the people, our number today in terms of volume of users are increasing continuously and that is a good sign for success in the future.

I guess you're right. Bitcoin although it has been 7 years since its inception, it is still relatively new. So I think that we should give it some time in order to become a mainstream currency used by millions of business and companies worldwide. Then, we will get the chance to invest our Bitcoins directly into real world things like real estates, stocks, and more without the need to exchange them for fiat. I've always imagined a world where you can used Bitcoin in the real world for anything from supermarkets, to gas stations, to anything else that you could buy with fiat. Just my opinion.  Cheesy
If bitcoins will become a mainstream currency that time I would be cashing out because I have invested today and I see the future is bright for bitcoin. I just realize that I have to risk since bitcoin is not that popular and I believe it will be in the future and the same will also help the price increase giving me a profit with my today's investment.
12186  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin or gold? on: July 19, 2016, 03:19:08 AM
Both the bitcoin and the gold will rise in value in the long term. But I think the bitcoin is more useful in the daily life.

I would go for bitcoins only because this is an developing technology through which billions of dollars are getting circulated. When you consider gold, it is a commodity and based on quality price differs. In bitcoin it is common to earn profit in short term as well as its purely based on technology which can provide big profit compared to gold. So bitcoin is given priority...

At this stage investing in bitcoin is the right thing to do, as users are increasing and bitcoin is getting more popular now so it can be the best investment for the future.
That is true, and at this moment all we have to do is to trust the future of bitcoins and by saying trust we should risk a decent amount for long term investment and make sure you will not touch it for a longer period of time but it is also necessary to make a specific target of date.
12187  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is their any safe methods to gamble? on: July 19, 2016, 03:15:48 AM
gambling is pure risk and when there is risk involved there would never be any safety so you all should stop looking for safe methods because you will just waste your time and get disappointed.

Hehe well, that is your understanding. But for gamblers. taking risk is more exciting, and in gambling there are a lot of excitement happenings. because there are money involving here. And they just want to know which will be much more safest way to earn in gambling. and for me. safest way in gambling is just bet in a small amount so that you can play longer and you can have more chances to win than to bet big amounts.  Grin

Gambling really has no safe zone, there is a very small chance that you'll win "BIG" but smaller bets might win, but still not big, so there is no really safe in gambling, even methods...But to make your money safe and don't want to avoid gambling, then you should try those giveaways/faucet from the gambling site itself to bet, that way, I don't think that your money is in danger, only that the "excitement" is not really felt that way..  Smiley

yeah, most gamblers don't take too serious on the site that has giveaways/faucet. Most probably they just wasting their time also because it has also a very small chances to win. But if you bet your money/bitcoin then it has more chance to win than to play free on gambling sites. And no excitement inserted in the games that has only for free i guess.
If one want to be successful in gambling he should invest money to make money. Faucets will not give you enough money as your bankroll  and as a gambler to have a decent chance we need to have a decent bankroll otherwise it is just a waste of time.
12188  Economy / Economics / Re: Short term high target reached on: July 19, 2016, 03:02:00 AM
Each sell off for me is an opportunity to buy more bitcoin at better prices.  storing for the massive increase to come.
Good luck with this strategy but i personally think this high volatility period is good for day trading buying and selling for profit in same day.
I agree with you. But it is not good to day trade if it was so stable like now. Waiting for another pump ill just hold my bitcoins tight.

the price right now isn't that stable. just look at the charts to get an idea. within 12 hours the price dropped from over $650 to $621 and went back up to nearly $640 and is now sitting at $633. if you know how to do day trading, you will make yourself a very nice profit. and btw, how the market is today, it has also been like this the last week. it goes up and down all the time.
Even though in fact bitcoin price never stable at some level price but not easy to get profit in bitcoin if they range of movement in a days only around $10
Exactly, especially when you have only a little amount in doing day trading, the best way to earn is hold longer your bitcoins and when you see your goal is already realize you sell it automatically. However, a short term investment is good when the event of halving will hype up nearing the date.

It is quite to do short term trading and win long term. I think it is better to hold the bitcoin for the long term.
Short term and long term are both fine if that fits your method in making money. However those who are not expert in the short term investing or trading we should do the easiest and safest way to earn and that is holding your bitcoins long term.
12189  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is their any safe methods to gamble? on: July 19, 2016, 02:35:30 AM
The safest method in my opinion is don't. I've seen it destroy many lives, families etc. so don't even begin with it using large amounts.

It's okay to do it with a small amount of money, but if you gamble more than you can afford to, please don't.
If you don't gamble then you should not participate in this thread. Not gambling is not the answer because that is tantamount to no answer at all. We should still gamble because we are all gamblers and those who has not gamble cannot share their experience.

I did gamble and the conclusion I came to was don't gamble. If you do, make sure to quit while you have a profit. Or bank some of the bitcoins, so you would never go to a loss.

Didn't do that, and that was a huge mistake.
No one will stop in gambling when they are wining that is why we all end up losing. If you win today and you quit you will still come back tomorrow to gamble and with that action that is a never ending process but we still lose in the end.
12190  Economy / Speculation / Re: Time to sell? Or to buy? on: July 19, 2016, 02:27:56 AM
What do you guys think?
Since the price keeps going lower the whole day.

Also why is it going lower ?
At the time it is the best time to hold on to your coins because the price is stable at the moment so be patient and wait just a little longer.
After that you can choose if you want to sell, hold or even buy more coins.
What time? You mean for this time or for a long time. It just keep me wonder if we the price goes up to 4digits why you still need to convert it to fiat since you believe that this coin will be adopted throughout the world then you should be available to use this for exchanging goods soon.

It may reach to 4 digit price in next few months but at the same time we cannot expect that it will be widely used and accepted so we need to convert it to fiat first and then spend it.
if your speculation is well studied then cashing out now is not a wise idea. We should save our bitcoins now and wait for the next few months to claim of profit, we should be positive now and optimistic.
12191  Other / Off-topic / Re: Will you quit your day job to go full time on bitcoin? on: July 19, 2016, 02:11:34 AM
Definitely no.. i dont want to take a risk,because bitcoin is unstable and you cant say that it will last for a long time.
I have a nice job with good salary ,so theres no possibility that i would exchange my career to bitcoin.
Bitcoin will be only a part of my exrra time.

if your salary enough for paying cost of life, i sugest you to save and hold your bitcoin for future reference Smiley
i withdraw my bitcoin each week for saving in fiat, but i save some amount for future reference too.
We should do both savings in fiat and bitcoins and should not put our savings in one basket. Bitcoin is good because we are saving and investing at the same time, that would help us harvest our fruits in the future if the economy of bitcoins continue to improve.
12192  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling. Is It Wrong? on: July 19, 2016, 02:08:16 AM
Problem with gambling is people that can't control it, and waste a lot of money that they need. If you play some bits and you stop when you lose it isn't a problem. If you lose all and start thinking about taking a loan to play more and recover from loses you have a big problem.
yeah it is a problem for many players they will begin to uncontrollable gambling when they start losing their gambling games. It also happened to me, when I started to lose maybe I'll bet a larger amount and maybe using max bet. yeah i cannot control it
Yeah same here i tried any methods testing large amount test low amount of bet but all methods are didnt work..
I think almost all not live games are 10% chance to win..

I think the one who enjoy gambling is the only one winning. Oneself could always lose in gambling because that is what people think you can earn a lot money in gambling and in the end it is only a waste of time and money start to think it as an entertainment and we'll see how is the difference.
That depends if you are more into fun you are a winner even if you lose your money in gambling, but for those who gamble for money they look for a profit in gambling which very hard to achieve and that would come to their mind that gambling is wrong.
12193  Economy / Economics / Re: How to save money. on: July 19, 2016, 02:05:36 AM
Inflation rates in most countries eat saving money so I think everyone should not save a lot of money because by time its value is declining. only save what you may need in an emergency
Fiat value dropped to 10% of your original savings in 50 years. Investment is better



Yeah even if  investment involves risk its far better then saving, as inflation will kill your savings so its better to take risk and grow your money in long run.
If a person does not take risk he will never be rich, we only save for a certain time and that savings includes for emergency. We should set also for investment to grow our funds and no man does not want to live comfortably in the future.
12194  Economy / Speculation / Re: bitcoin continuous rising? on: July 19, 2016, 02:03:04 AM
Bitcoin needs to evolve in adoption, that generates real growth.

Yes adoption is deciding factor in determining the price and the future of bitcoin, if adoption goes higher then no one can stop price of bitcoin touching to new heights in coming future.
Adoption is really good now as evidence by the price, it is increasing and has increased almost 100% this year. We shall be seeing this in the following years to come and that is beneficial for the investors that can hold for a long period of time.
12195  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2016/17 NBA Off-Season on: July 19, 2016, 01:55:48 AM
I'm happy to see the Lakers pick up Timofey Mozgov, that big russian will help them a ton on the inside.  Going to be good to watch how they come together next year.

But have you seen the tv commercial Mozgov has made in Cleveland?  They are so bad they're funny.

I don't know why people like Mozgov when he was mostly a bench warmer for the cavs in the finals, people are just so dumb and bandwagoners

Yes the Lakers gave him way too much money.
BUT i was shocked that he didn't play much this season

2015 Finals he averaged 28min, 14pts and 7 rebounds.
pretty good stats if you ask me.

New coach obviously didn't like him that much plus Love was back
The cavaliers are playing small ball now to counter the warriors style of play, they let go of Mozgov because they cannot utilize him anymore and that is a win win for both teams.
12196  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: If you were rich, would you still gamble? on: July 19, 2016, 01:43:39 AM
You're crazy if you gamble to get rich--the chances of that happening are so small.  Some of the richest people are the most degenerate gamblers known to man, and they do it for fun.  My take on the question is that if anyone here thinks there comes a dollar-amount point where you're satisfied and can stop, you're kidding yourself. 
Well, we all have our choice in life and we can gamble to be rich because that is our plan but the chances is really low and we might not succeed with our goal. By doing this, we should be professional gambler already so we know more on how to do it.
12197  Economy / Economics / Re: Best way for steady income on: July 18, 2016, 12:20:25 PM
doing some sort of a job and recieving bitcoin as a payment then use it for trading some good alt and dont touch your btc for any other things yet then after a month you will see good result you will got steady earnings mate in due time.
That is a great idea because that is less risky, when you are working online you will always receive a pay like even a small job but if you know how to maximize your earnings you can do trading or investing and the good news is you are not using your real money.
12198  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Should I invest in bitcoin casinos? on: July 18, 2016, 12:17:50 PM
We can not compare investing in gambling sites with playing gamble. Gambling is something where you can simply playing to win or loose money and can not stay in same status. When you invest what can happen is you receive less profit or may be don't for some period. Investment keep your money safe as 99% house is winning and remaining with profit. So going for investment is always much more better.
Yeah! but what I know about investment is your chances of losing is very slim since gambling is a profitable business and that has been proven way back it started. We just have to be patient with our profit because it is not that it can give you big profit in a short period of time.
12199  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Is JETWIN.ps a complete joke? on: July 18, 2016, 12:08:15 PM
I think this was done because they want to make sure that all those who conduct gambling is male. Because I think they feel that when women do gambling, it would be very dangerous to their lives. But I hope you guys can consider this because this concerns the identity of yourself

This is a discrimination then, gambling is made not only for men. They have to give a great reason why they do not allow women to gamble on their site.
yes agree with you because gambling made for whole of gender and women should be allowed to get these bonus but might be the owner have their own reasons why only male could get these bonus or may be they hate women who doing gambling activity

Let's not complain anymore because that is their rule, and that it for them to keep the reason behind why they are not accepting women to gamble. What matters to me is that their bonus is real because I can prove it as I cash out already.
If you don't want their rules there's always another site that you can visit and spend your Bitcoins. They have their own set of rules and we have to respect that. We cant just register, sign-in and then when we found a rule that is not suited for our taste we file a complain, it's not like that. It's their house, they have the right to say who can come in and where do you sit and where to do eat, if you don't like their house rules, go out and find another one.
Of course, we can always visit and play other sportsbook, I believe there are many legitimate sports book here but  you also need to search if how legitimate they are, to name a few I can recommend nitrogensports for that.
12200  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Alt coins worth buying on: July 18, 2016, 06:12:17 AM
TrumpCoin was recently formed as an LLC and the new acting Prime Minister (haha) of TrumpCoin is looking to run it like a business. Great time to check out the charts and find a nice entry point.
I doubt its worth investing. the coin's price will soon drop once he loses the election which is possible. Clinton is wining the race really, If i am a supporter i would buy BLRY instead than Trump even when these two are both a joke.
LOL! never trust your money with this kind of coins, you are just wasting your time. We should buy legitimate altcoins that raises a good amount of investment during the ICO.  I know waves and the  DAO are still undervalued, or even try to but ETH at low price now.
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