Braucht ihr noch Hilfe oder schon geklärt? Irgendwie habt ihr ein Kommunikationsproblem. Ich empfehle keine Geschäfte in einer Sprache abzuwickeln, die man nicht halbwechs versteht. Wieviele BTC oder Kurs habt ihr vereinbart? Do you still need some help or everything is solved yet? Due to his screenshots, it looks like he sent you 800 USD per Neteller and he didn't get any coins from you. This is your ICQ account? Shipitbuddy Exchanges (654549612) This is your e-mail? joaco.larrosa@gmail.comThis one is his BTC address he wanted you to send the coins: 1Ck9zo7ATNSMRawvG3RzJAHmGsft2jDhuT There is a transfer on 11/14/2014 of 1.85 BTC, is that yours? |
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2 Wochen sind noch absolut im Rahmen und ganz normal. Wenn ich das richtig interpretiere, ist am 31.10. die Nachricht gekommen, dass sie innerhalb der nächsten 3-4 Tage versenden. Rechnet man auch noch die Zollabwicklung hinzu: Beim Zoll kanns auch ganz leicht einmal 1 Werktag liegen bleiben, dazu ein weiterer Werktag für die Zustellung der Zollbenachrichtigung.
Ab >3 Wochen kannst du dir Gedanken machen, ab >4 Wochen beginnen sorgen zu machen.
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@mjr
In future version, the "performance summary" is improved too? For e.g., I'd like to know my interest earned since beginning or on a montly basis.
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Company name?
Where is it registered?
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I knw you guys have several layers of security. Bu what would happen if you get robbed or something like that? Am I risking my money or I will get it back? I mean is there any way I can be 100% sure I will get it back? Insurance?
Bankruptsy. |
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There should be really an instant ban for advertising (scam) sites in first postings like this one.
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We all are still waiting for a trading proof. No real-time one, just to verify your daily results are based on real trading results.
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I think it's a good idea to show a portfolio in your first posting as a proof for your skills.
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Same SCAM/Ponzi/HYIP, different name. Stay away!For your information:
Bernie Madoff went to prison offering 12% a year. You are offering at least(!) 92% more than Bernie Madoff.Financial regulation
Bitcoin is a virtual currency, which is not controlled or regulated by any government.
The service is not regulated by the financial laws and does not conduct financial activity at the moment, as all transactions, calculations are carried out within Bitcoin network. Definitly wrong within the US.
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Where is your 5 % a month offer. Got some cold feet?!
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and again we're in the US we can't get up and disappear from the government or from you all, exit strategy is a hell of a lot more difficult. and the first thing we want to do is get accreditation anywhere we can in the states with FINcen and SEC, not host a bitcoin conference like a past favorite company of many of us. So where are our red flags that say we’re a scam besides our registrations.
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We'll be able to prove ourselves with what we got given time, we don't need investments so stay un-invested
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I always read "we will" and "we want"... you won't get any trust without an sustaibable audit. An audit that proofes your successful arbitrage activities to pay your customers interest. -> When can we expect this? If you don't need any customers investments then it was a really bad decision to open your doors after bitcoin-trader.biz fiasco without any audit. If you want to gain some trust stop to take investors money NOW (you don't need it).A registered company means nothing. No.1 lame excuse in crypto world is "we got hacked, we have to file bankruptsy". Happend several times and the hack was just an inside job. Still waiting for a comment from the big boss. This forum has been 90% attacks at our personal character. The only one attacking other users on a personal level is Digicoinz. I'm glad there is also a legendary one involved in this thread now. |
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Received income from a two-week deposit. Everything looks good, so I added an affiliate link in my signature.
Like every ponzi at the beginning. |
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Stop posting in this thread. There are already a lot of people suffering from such shit.
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Just a nice story, NO PROOF. A scammer always wants to make you believe. BT had a nice story too.  |
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BT had claimed they did an audit, but never actually shown proof of it. Yet ppl just assumed it was fact? BT claimed they were hacked during audit. I don't believe there was any kind of audit, just a nice story. Nobody assumed a successful audit as a fact. Again why so adamant about govt being involved? You trust the govt that much? You're pretty ignorant if you do. I'm talking about an audit done by a trustable independent company. There are several out their doing this as their everyday business. Yep, I have more trust in govt than into this kind of private run startup company. I trust this company because of its actions not a piece of paper. What actions? Their communication, their registered company, their names and where they live? What I want to see are their daily results as a proof how they can pay this amount of interest every day + this fact audited. We won't have any discussion if that was already done (no problem I think, because eso don't need investors money). |
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and again we're in the US we can't get up and disappear from the government or from you all, exit strategy is a hell of a lot more difficult. and the first thing we want to do is get accreditation anywhere we can in the states with FINcen and SEC, not host a bitcoin conference like a past favorite company of many of us. So where are our red flags that say we’re a scam besides our registrations.
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We'll be able to prove ourselves with what we got given time, we don't need investments so stay un-invested
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I always read "we will" and "we want"... you won't get any trust without an sustaibable audit. An audit that proofes your successful arbitrage activities to pay your customers interest. -> When can we expect this? If you don't need any customers investments then it was a really bad decision to open your doors after bitcoin-trader.biz fiasco without any audit. If you want to gain some trust stop to take investors money NOW (you don't need it). A registered company means nothing. No.1 lame excuse in crypto world is "we got hacked, we have to file bankruptsy". Happend several times and the hack was just an inside job. |
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And you are getting personal again. Reply to my comment!
About there being ponzi fraud in the US? I never said there isn't. But why make assumptions, just because a company offers a nice return on an investment that you can also achieve on your own with the same bitcoin trading methods they're doing? Again: There is NO WAY somebody will pay you this amount of interest. Hint: bitcoin-trader.biz where communicating very well too. no actually they weren't, because they avoided me when i was trying to get actual proof of their "arbitrage" activities. nobody really asked the right questions (that i know of). Esoteric (dan and glenn) will be providing actual proof of where our money will be stored, and transactional histories through the blockchain when bitcoins are moved from the wallets to the exchanges, etc. As well as a plethora of information regarding trading activities in general and any other methods they might devise of to further profits with bitcoins (within legal limits). They are making all the efforts to operate legitimately within the laws of the U.S., just give them some time to prove themselves.. Cause believe me, I will hunt them down if they turn out to be a scam (which as i've said they've done nothing to indicate otherwise at this time). "will be" is not the same as "they did" Transferring coins between wallets is not a good evidence for trading before we don't know the wallets owners. And you did not come to the idea that this is just a small improvement to bitcoin-trader.biz to get investors money? He'll clear things up. I'm sure he will, else it's a really bad prepared ponzi. I would be lying if i said they did, why are you splitting hairs lol And they can still show past transactions after the fact. god... curious question, what makes you believe a bank can be trusted more with your money, when the U.S. govt's money has no value (the country's debt is higher then the money they can dish out to pay it back) That makes money worthless. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DyV0OfU3-FU&list=WL&index=1 especially part 3-4 of the series. and then tell me why you wouldn't rather deal in bitcoin, say fuck off to the government, and just reap the benefits, regardless the outcome. rule #1) Don't invest what you can't afford to lose, #2) Read Rule 1 #3) simply watch out for the signs of a potential scam and pull out all you can, and move on. Too much drama people. If you don't like it, stay away from it, you'll never accomplish anything just making accusations, seriuosly nothing. 1. To assume that, there is not a single difference to bitcoin-trader.biz at the moment but you are fighting for eso that hard. Interesting... 2. You are really comparing a new private run company from some kids to the economic output of whole countries? That makes me laugh. If the US files bankruptcy we will definitly have other problems than "worth of money" for sure. 3. One reason we have this sub-board is to warn other users and especially newbies from scam. |
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And you are getting personal again. Reply to my comment!
About there being ponzi fraud in the US? I never said there isn't. But why make assumptions, just because a company offers a nice return on an investment that you can also achieve on your own with the same bitcoin trading methods they're doing? Again: There is NO WAY somebody will pay you this amount of interest. Hint: bitcoin-trader.biz where communicating very well too. no actually they weren't, because they avoided me when i was trying to get actual proof of their "arbitrage" activities. nobody really asked the right questions (that i know of). Esoteric (dan and glenn) will be providing actual proof of where our money will be stored, and transactional histories through the blockchain when bitcoins are moved from the wallets to the exchanges, etc. As well as a plethora of information regarding trading activities in general and any other methods they might devise of to further profits with bitcoins (within legal limits). They are making all the efforts to operate legitimately within the laws of the U.S., just give them some time to prove themselves.. Cause believe me, I will hunt them down if they turn out to be a scam (which as i've said they've done nothing to indicate otherwise at this time). "will be" is not the same as "they did" Transferring coins between wallets is not a good evidence for trading before we don't know the wallets owners. And you did not come to the idea that this is just a small improvement to bitcoin-trader.biz to get investors money? He'll clear things up. I'm sure he will, else it's a really bad prepared ponzi. |
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yup ... just a scam ... there is no such thing as free money ...
Proof? Withdrawal works, I have been paid a couple of hours ago  What do you mean by "free money"? I invested my BTC, it doesn't even look like "free money"  Withdrawal worked very well at bitcoin-trader.biz till they ran with investors money. About 7.5 M$ Get out as soon as possible. |
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