why don't you share this info?

It is very easy (already posted it here). If you, or anyone else considers buying IUO tokens, the very least that needs to be verified is:
1. Liqui should show a proof (screenshot) of their FINAL amount of ICN tokens
2. Liqui should show a proof that they have less than that final amount of IOUs reserved in orders

So far - NADA

Anything less than that you guys are idiots if you deposit there

Doesn't have to be dreams. Projects (altcoins) with much less value went 50-100x in 2 years, so why not a well established platform that has proven financial company as operator and shows good profits?

I'd agree with you. As much a I don't like with the first ether fork, for now this is the best chain to deploy on. Don't forget that powerful players (Microsoft, Santander bank and others) are interested and actively supporting it. In these early days it means a lot.
I do believe that one day in the future Iconomi tokens can and probably will be redeployed to another chain, it is not the main thing now. Now is the time to develop the platform and have the first two funds operational.

As for weekly dividends, again agree - what is the big deal to convert them to BTC or any other crypto/fiat/gold/silver once you receive them? Don't see any issue here


Here is the honey, folks! Don't you get it? Donno who CoM1ner is, but he has NAILED IT on his second post. Why are you even talking about anything but this? Ether - no ether, counterparty, lisk.. It does not matter. The real money and value is not in the blockchain, but in the FUNDS. The blockchain is just a tool to provide the shares and the weekly dividends.

The best (by far) advantage that Iconomi has - 2+ years of established and legalized payment processor in Europe is the most important advantage we, as shareholders, have from Cashila being the platform operator. Competitors will come, good and smart people can be hired (hard task, but not impossible), and capital can be raised (again not easy, but doable)
Being a trusted fiat gateway is not easy and TAKES TIME. And time is important, very important.

Exactly what happened with me. I started with week 1, and the more I read about it and saw how the team handles things, the more I invested. If you hold, you will have an early retirement in ~2-3 years.

It was really good post, and a very nice change from the last 50+ pages of crybabies bountyhores.

I would add some thoughts of mine, and would be glad to see your thoughts (posted on reddit, but not much activity there):

The way I see it 5 things need to take place in the next 2 years in order the token value to hit >50x:

1. Team: strong and skilled team that remains united (core team has to stay on the same page) and keeps in touch with the community - we sure have that for now!!
2. Platform: will have to be as transparent as possible, not to be compromised or hacked (big trust issues otherwise). So far no reason to think otherwise.
3. Funds (that is why we are here for performance, ICNX and new funds on the platform will have to show profits
4. Legal - Iconomi will have to get this new concept trough the legal channels - funds and dividends. Investors and shareholders cannot be legally exposed.
5. Executing the final stage: upon points 1-4 there is NO WAY that a (pardon) shitload of money won't fly into the platform. Money that does between 0 and 10 percent annually. There is  HUGE demand in the markets   
    for new areas to invest. So point 5 is all about being able to play the game in the grownups playground

A word about competitors - they will come, and when they do it will be yet another sign that we are on the right track.

The sad thing is that the delay, or poor network performance has nothing to do with Iconomi..
I don't get why people will bitch about it since it just creates negative atmosphere and prevents the devs from doing some actual work.
FCK you all that keep wining about delay. You are lowering the price by that, you stupid!
Personally I don't care about the price now, I am long on Iconomi, I'd just wished the team to be able to work in a more mature environment

I don't remember any other ICO that the co-founder agreed to escrow (free of charge you cryibabies!) just to please those stupid little bounty sluts

YOU SHOULD BE ASHAMED. No one even thanked Jani for that, just more crying and bitching.
How can Iconomi distribute the tokens few days before hard fork(s)? Uh?? Or the day after?? You don't even need half brain for that

I wished I'd have more money, to buy all your tokens so you shut the fuck up

well, if one is trolling he is a troll
What's to explain?

finally some luck, uh?
haha, good one

Not true. Most real supporters had enough of those crybabies. We just wait for them to sell and to get the fck out of here

Besides - it is weekend.. Real supporters are out there in the real world

yeah, exactly. That's why I asked how come he got to 0.25 ether per tx..

so you are paying like ~2.5 dollar for each tx?

how did you get to 0.25 eth? I think you need much, much less

yepp, a lot of cry babies.. Still not to late to move to reddit

Why would you get a refund? and more important - why would you want to get a refund?

shit on you

the link you share leads to 404

Why is it so bad? The platform dev is still going on. I don't care about ppl that just want to sell the tokens the moment it hits exchanges. Iconomi team should decide based on what is best for the platform in the LONG run, and not care about short-sighted cry babies dumpers

how many real operational projects are deployed on lisk?

that is why I suggested to move the discussion to reddit

Hi to all people that even think to deposit into this Liqui

If you deposit more than 1 satoshi there before:
1. Team shows a proof of FINAL ICN balance
2. Team shows a proof that they have less IOUs than final amount of ICNs
3. You actually believe to get real tokens for that thing called IOU
you are asking for trouble, and don't cry when things go south later on

so far, despite few attempts, team and his shill members are ignoring those points

I had enough of their posts around here

I am sure that Iconomi team is discussing that and will update us once they decide. They gave us 0 reasons not to trust them so far.