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1221  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Importance of Gambling to the society on: September 13, 2023, 08:48:26 AM
Gambling has both socially harmful and beneficial aspects, but when the harmful aspects outweigh the good aspects, it is considered socially harmful. However, in the socio-economic environment where teenagers and minors become addicted to gambling, gambling is not useful for any social development in that society, instead, bad acts like robbery, corruption, theft, murder, rape etc. continue to happen. Gambling has significant developmental effects in countries where gambling is socially and state-legalized. Especially the government gets a certain amount of tax from the gambling sites and because of the multiple posts/vacancies on gambling, thousands of people are employed.

as we put it, we can see the benefits and the detrimental effects of gambling in the society. depending on how you look at this industry. i guess, abuse has always negative impact on anyone, right?
In my opinion, gambling is not that bad, if gambling is legalized in the country it will actually provide benefits to local communities, and casinos must work together with local communities so that casinos and their surroundings remain safe and conducive.
If someone says that gambling can harm other people, such as crime and so on, that possibility exists, but this is not entirely the fault of the gambling party or the casino. But it is the fault of the person himself or the individual who cannot control or handle his losses so he does bad things and that is a very stupid gambler. And cases like this, if caused by gambling, must be dealt with firmly so that no one follows them, after all, bad cases can happen anywhere, not just in the world of gambling.
1222  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Altcoins that you trust most on: September 13, 2023, 05:23:30 AM
I don't trust altcoins but if you want to get the safest choice of the highest chance not getting scammed, probably the top 10 altcoins in the market right now. If you aim for profit and doesn't care if it take years, maybe hidden gems like new projects that you see potential on, most likely they will be noticed by the market when bull market arrives and probably will sky rocket that can produce you big profits. I learned from the past of not investing on the same token again that I invested on the last bull market, most of those coins might actually got their all time high that they can't reach anymore.
Well, it's best not to hold much trust in altcoins, and only invest using cold hard cash when we want to invest in the long term. Apart from that, I also agree, that if you want to choose altcoins and hold them for a long time, then the top 10 altcoins on CMC are the best. in fact, for myself I choose ETH and BNB. But, I still choose to invest using money that doesn't change my life when the money is gone. additionally, the potential price increase of the top 10 coins is huge. Most of these altcoins will rise when the price of Bitcoin rises, or when a bull market occurs.
Of course ETH and BNB are very smart choices besides Bitcoin, and I always trust the top, oldest and most trusted Altcoins especially for the long term.
And I'm sure most of those who have been in this industry for a long time still choose and judge that the top Altcoin is still the best choice for the long term because its trail can be trusted to provide profits, I also have ETH and BNB although not much. Because I prioritize Bitcoin and when Bitcoin increases surely both will increase and will increase profits for me in addition to profits from Bitcoin.
1223  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: My Preparations for BTC Halving and bull market on: September 13, 2023, 03:44:13 AM
That's the plan, we're going to sell whenever when we need it or when it was higher the all time high. And just keep thriving to follow DCA whenever you're able to. There's no need to panic if we're seeing the market crashing as that's very normal to see before something big happens.
The problem with some of the holders is that they are quick in panicking even if they have set a plan. So, that's the other plan and that's to be steadfast and hold on to what they have planned for like holding for long and never to panic.
Of course everyone or investors will sell when the price reaches its highest point and make big profits, and as long as you do a good plan like DCA and also buy when the price goes down and sell when the price goes up. Both are the best choices for investing in Bitcoin, because Bitcoin is a promising long-term investment.
And waiting for the next halving is what everyone and investors are waiting for and they are competing to collect more Bitcoin, and my suggestion is that now is still the right time to make purchases and also the right time to increase purchases in the DCA strategy. And you can normalize your purchases when the price of Bitcoin starts to rise, and never panic or be afraid even though the decline continues because in the long term Bitcoin will rise again.
1224  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season on: September 13, 2023, 02:07:49 AM
And I am more impressed with this group, and group F can be said to be the hell group because it contains very good teams such as Paris Saint Germain (PSG), Borussia Dortmund, AC Milan and Newcastle in one group.
And these four teams have the same chance of qualifying for the next round, considering that the quality of the squad that all teams have is very good and will be a challenge for all teams and who will continue to the next round.
And these four teams will also prove the toughness of the new squad they have, and this will be a more interesting match compared to the other groups.
1225  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Behaviours of gamblers you dislike. on: September 12, 2023, 03:40:10 PM
I don't like the behavior of gamblers when they loss everything then they initiate taking loan from others. Gambling should be avoided but if it hard for someone then he should avoid taking loan and whenever his pocket become empty he should focus on earning from another source rather than taking Loans.

In such case they loss their jobs and their homes because if they continuously taking loans and don't return it then after sometime people stop allowing them loan therefore they try to sell the things in order to continue theirs wishes.

I dislike this behavior too. It shows too much irresponsibility on the side of gambler. Taking loans after losses means someone is financially illiterate and shouldn't be entrusted with big decision making because of poor judgment. In the first place, you shouldn't even gamble beyond your capacity to begin with. You should know your limitations and your boundaries so you won't be bankrupt and have tons of debts to pay. You are your responsibility. And if anything goes wrong, the person that will help you first is you and not anyone.

Gambling awareness is essential to know the pros and cons of gambling. Most often, people misunderstood gambling as a get rich quick scheme but it's not it. You can lose more than what you can make and that's the reality.
I also strongly disagree with such typical gamblers, and I consider such gamblers to be addicted gamblers. Apart from not being able to control the game, he also couldn't control his desire to continue playing when he had lost everything so borrowing was his choice so he could continue gambling.
Many gamblers are like this and have a lot of debt from several online loans because of their convenience, then cannot pay because the debt is too much. So crime is their way of coping, which makes them suffer even more from being arrested and imprisoned. In fact, recently someone hanged himself because he was in huge online loan debt and used the money for gambling.
It is very sad to see the behavior of gamblers like that, and the importance of gambling awareness is something that must be applied to gamblers. Because they will immediately realize if they feel their gambling is problematic and immediately realize not to take excessive actions that could harm them.
1226  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: September 12, 2023, 03:18:10 PM
Manchester City have been won Premier League in 2020 and 2021 without Haaland, the team is already strong without Haaland, but having Haaland is completely better because he can maximize the chances created by De Bruyne. However even though Manchester City is playing without De Bruyne, they can still able to win against many teams. So all of Manchester City's players are just way more better than other teams.
Yes, that's true and behind it all it is Guardiola who sets the strategy because without him Manchester City is not a great club, sometimes people always think of Haaland as something important, even so, even without Haaland Manchester City can still get the title, so this is hard work. Guardiola chooses talented players who have good potential in the Manchester City squad. Guardiola always knows which players are right for Manchester City.

I'm sure that even though De Bruyne will be absent for several matches, Manchester City will still be a club that is respected by opponents, even the task in the UCL group is not too complicated so it won't take too much effort to get through the UCL group phase later, speaking about the EPL, I'm sure Manchester City is more consistent than several other clubs such as Arsenal and Liverpool which have looked quite good recently.
Of course, the greatness of a team lies in its coach, Pep Guardiola is a great coach and any team coached by Pep Guardiola will definitely be a team that is frightening and respected by opponents.
And Pep Guardiola is known as a coach who has traveled all over Europe, he has also coached a number of teams and turned them into great, feared teams such as Barcelona, Bayern Munich, and is currently managing Manchester City.
And once the team is left by Pep Guardiola, the team will definitely change, including its great players. So it's not all because there are great players, but because there is a great coach who makes them great players and shines even more because of the presence of Pep Guardiola.
1227  Economy / Speculation / Re: Should we rely on prediction? on: September 11, 2023, 04:00:13 PM
If a person listens to other people's advice when investing, then of course such purchases will not do any good. Usually, so-called experts talk about some projects that can bring profit in the future only because of their own profit. More often it turns out that the person who listened to such advice ends up losing money.
Actually, there's no harm in listening to advice when you want to invest in something as long as the advice is logical enough to understand. But everyone also needs their own stance after listening to advice from other people because basically advice from other people is not the main thing that must be relied on by someone who wants to invest with the results of their own research.

A person who experiences losing money after listening to advice from others is a person who does not have a stand in his own decisions so he will always be more easily trapped by others through soft advice. He should have done his own research before listening to advice from other people or when he has listened to advice from other people about investment, because whatever advice said by other people is only an additional option after someone has the first option from the results he has researched himself.
There is nothing wrong with appreciating and listening to other people's advice, because whatever that advice is, we ourselves determine and evaluate that advice.
And we can also consider suggestions after we have done our own research and analysis to determine what to do because this is a matter of money that we are risking to invest, so we have to be very careful. And never invest because of other people's advice without having sufficient understanding and knowledge in it. Because if the advice is wrong and you experience a loss, it is not the person's fault. But because you are too stupid with the investments you make.
So invest with adequate knowledge and understanding, and learn what is necessary including accurate information to help you in making choices and people's suggestions are only for consideration and still do your own research and analysis to determine the final result.
1228  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: September 11, 2023, 03:20:11 PM
Chelsea will travel to Bournemouth in the next week. I expect a better game from them. Despite playing as a guest team, Bournemouth's strength is not better than them. This could be a match that they can take advantage of to get full points at Bournemouth's home field.
1 win, 1 draw and 2 defeats is a start that cannot be said to be good for them. Therefore they must win this match, it is important because victory can be something that will be able to lift their morale.
From the way this season started. I cannot actually predict Chelsea matches because they have not shown inclination to greatness. Is it were Chelsea I used to know, a club like Bournemouth cannot share points with them. But the Chelsea we see today anything can happen and surprisingly Chelsea might not get a point in that match. so I advise every sports bettor to be very careful about predicting matches that are related to Chelsea and even Manchester United until they are stable

But if I consider from the odds available at this time, then at least Chelsea can still be predicted to be able to win in this match. But yes, even if Chelsea fail to get full points in this match, it is unlikely that Chelsea will lose. Because after all, so far this season also the fact that Bournemouth has not won at all from the four match it has played. So, with this factor, it is appropriate for Chelsea to be able to maximize this moment to be able to get full points, of course by defeating Bournemouth at Vitality Stadium.
Odds do not guarantee and do not provide anything for the results that the team will achieve in a match, even though the quality of the Bournemouth team is far below Chelsea and their performance was also quite bad at the start of this season, but I think there will not be many people who will dare to bet in Chelsea's victory, what the Chelsea team experienced at the start of this season was quite difficult for them to recover from so I think it is better to avoid betting on this match.
Even though there are doubts about betting on this match, I still believe in Chelsea for the match against Bournemouth, it looks like Chelsea will not waste this opportunity. Because in Chelsea's last match against Bournemouth at home they won 1-3, at least this is something worth considering. Even though Chelsea's performance at the start of the season was still not good, that doesn't mean Chelsea can't win the match later.
and Bournemouth are far below Chelsea in the standings, and that means Chelsea are better than Bournemouth and Pochettino will definitely correct all the mistakes in the previous match. And against Bournemouth is an opportunity for Chelsea to prove that Chelsea is capable, which is different if Chelsea plays against top teams.
1229  Economy / Economics / Re: Teaching My Nephews About Wealth Through the Game of Monopoly on: September 11, 2023, 02:16:30 PM
Monopoly was a fun board game at the time and I've never heard of anyone getting rich by learning to play monopoly, and everything the OP mentioned can be done without playing monopoly. Because most of these methods are not in the monopoly game, and you can get them in lessons about investment and financial management.
But most of the game is about buying investment properties and renting them out, and there's only one lesson you can learn from this game of monopoly. If we are careful and do research to invest in real estate, you can definitely be rich or get passive income if you buy it in the right place.
1230  Economy / Games and rounds / Re: SINBAD.IO Mixer September Bitcoin Price Prediction Challenge on: September 11, 2023, 12:33:09 PM
Prediction 1: $25.848.20
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1231  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: presuring someone into Bitcoin investment on: September 10, 2023, 07:28:28 PM
In my opinion, the best option is to never convince anyone of anything, especially when it comes to money because it is very sensitive.
And I personally will educate a close friend or family member, as long as they themselves want to. Then let them make up their own minds, and tell them the risks, pros and cons of Bitcoin or other cryptocurrencies so they can consider them.
And convincing someone to invest in Bitcoin or another cryptocurrency can be a challenge, as it is a highly speculative market and many people may be hesitant to invest their money in a volatile asset. However, we also need to educate them if that is their own desire and not persuade or convince them, but only provide simple knowledge and understanding that is easy for them to understand. If not us, who else?
1232  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Learning from those who have experience on: September 10, 2023, 03:40:49 PM

Personally I have been able to get out of addiction only by my strong will to do so and this should be the main advice to you and anyone else who want to come out of it,you have to want it with all your body and spiritual desire and you can do it.Of course this takes a lot of time and I didn't come out of this immediately,I started playing smaller and smaller amounts every week,kept playing with a different currency like IDR which kept me playing longer and longer until I started to get bored of such long sessions but without losing any substantial amount of money.Now I still do play with IDR and I have a set weekly bankroll which I never overdo it or better I overdo it only very few times.This is how I got out of full addiction.

The strong minded gamblers only escape from the gambling addiction,others easily addicted with the gambling.This because of the huge attraction towards the gambling.Sometimes the gambler who want the passive income from their real income will use the gambling.Because now the economic condition was not easiest one.So all of us need of second income to manage today economic condition.The reason behind this was the product cost was increased a lot.The cost of pen was increased 20-30 percentage from the real value,like wise each product cost was increased and it was the main reason for the passive income from the gambling.
So it will depend on each gambler to determine when they will quit their gambling addiction. Other people cannot force them to quit or stop gambling because it is related to the consciousness of each gambler. And as long as the gambler still wants to gamble, he will continue to gamble without anyone stopping him. Some gamblers try to reduce their gambling activities by reducing their gambling time, and so far, they have been able to do this, and day by day, they are increasingly able to reduce it. So if each gambler already has a strong will to stop gambling, that's when they can try to do it, and they will be able to really reduce their gambling time or even stop gambling.
Of course, whether a regular gambler or an addicted gambler wants to stop or reduce his gambling activities, it depends on the gambler's awareness and serious intentions. And if there is no serious intention they will continue gambling until they realize it after their life becomes poor, and this often happens and they stop and realize it after losing everything.
Gambling activities are not an opportunity to seek passive income, because winnings in gambling are inconsistent and if they cannot be controlled it will actually make the gambler suffer.
1233  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: The madness of gambling addicts. on: September 10, 2023, 02:00:10 AM
That's right, it's not certain that someone will just stop gambling with punishment, it takes a long process and time if it's not balanced with a real intention to stop gambling.
I agree with your method, if you give rehabilitation sanctions or stay away from your beloved family (prison) then gamblers will be deterred and want to stop their gambling addiction, it sounds very scary, but nevertheless I think that is the only best step.
But even though gambling addicts are in rehabilitation, they must be determined to cure their gambling addiction. Otherwise, they may return to gambling after the rehabilitation period is complete because they think they can pretend to go through the healing process to get out and return to their gambling activities quickly. There must be awareness from the gambling addict that he is addicted to gambling, and he comes to rehabilitation to cure his gambling addiction for the sake of himself and his family. And his family must continue to encourage him so that he can cure his gambling addiction. Indeed, it will take time and sometimes longer than scheduled because it all depends on the physical and mental condition of the gambling addict.
Stopping bad habits is not easy, and in general it is difficult to do, especially for those who are chronic. Chronic gambling addiction is an addiction that is difficult to cure and also takes a long time to recover completely.
However, if there is effort and keep trying with serious intentions, nothing is impossible. And a rehabilitation center is just a place where addicts do not recognize or carry out their habits and are diverted to other activities or activities to forget them, but this cannot guarantee that the addict will recover completely. And they will recover if they have sincere intentions and are supported by those closest to them, family, lover or life partner or anyone who can help and support their recovery, and are always under their supervision.
1234  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What's your actual dca strategy? on: September 09, 2023, 05:55:05 PM
Make the DCA strategy very simple and anyone can do it without having to make large purchases every week or month, but this strategy must be done with a strong belief that in the long term Bitcoin will increase.
And the DCA strategy that I apply is to buy Bitcoin in small amounts every month according to my ability after I prioritize all my needs, and I will also increase the amount of purchases when Bitcoin is down because this is a discount that cannot be missed, and I will also make normal purchases once the price of bitcoin rises again.
In my opinion, the strategy of purchasing DCA regularly every week or month does not require large purchases. The most important thing is that you can always try to take advantage of price drops that occur to increase purchases.
1235  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: September 09, 2023, 03:23:18 PM
@shinratensei_ Anthony rarely makes a difference on the pitch and match and after match he’s failed to convince Manchester United fan’s that he should be in the starting lineup hence his absence wont make much of a difference and for now there’s no indication from Manchester United that they’ll bench him. Furthermore Sancho has crossed a line from which there’s no coming back because even if Ten Hag allows him back he’ll make sure that he’s sold as soon as the January transfer window opens.
Erik Ten Hag need to accumulate permission to view numerous heinous incidents happening on at Old Trafford. Everything are going to get blown out of proportion, but we should focus on what is good and spread positive energy. The Red Devils confront challenges on two frontlines, with Anthony suffering furious assaults from his ex-partner who wants to cinch him down. On the other side, Erik Ten Hag has made comments about Jadon Sancho not meeting his minimum benchmarks to be included in his starting lineups for league matches. The whole concept seems to be getting out of hand, but I'm hoping Manchester United can sort it out before it blows up in their faces.
Manchester United team is performing very well. Last season there were some great problems within the team. However, at the beginning of this season, the team has prepared itself brilliantly.

I can't say Man U have started this season any good... They've lost two games out of four... They could hardly win the game against Nottingham Forest... They are now in the middle of the standings... I didn't notice much difference between the way they played last season and the way they are performing now... I think they need to improve their game to compete with other clubs for the Champions League...
Yes, Manchester United has not shown good changes at the start of this season and must immediately make changes and improve their performance before this season goes too far. And even though Manchester United carried out a major overhaul in terms of the number of new players, at the start of the season there were no visible changes from the previous season.
and in week 5 Manchester United will host Brighton, and this will be a tough job for Erik Ten Hag because Brighton is not an easy opponent considering their game is quite good, especially in counter attacks and they are also in 6th position in the standings.
1236  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to Control Your Emotions and Win More Bets on: September 08, 2023, 08:34:18 PM
In gambling emotions will always be there and all gamblers must experience this, and you must be able to control your emotions and don't let emotions rule you because this will determine the outcome of your game.
And try not to think about the past, I mean past or previous defeats. Because it will cause emotions when you gamble, and play with full awareness, because you can control your emotions and when you are aware that you have emotions when playing then you can control or neutralize them. And make an intention before playing, that the purpose of playing gambling is just to have fun and also enjoy the game, because it will make you provide sufficient capital and stop if your capital runs out and will also stop when you win.
1237  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: September 08, 2023, 04:40:51 PM
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Manchester United supporters will always remember that bitter thing because the mistakes made by Harry Maguire who played at the back last season were not only fatal, but also very painful for the supporters of the Manchester United team themselves. Because without Harry Maguire making fatal mistakes at the back, perhaps Manchester United would not have lost, but it is something that has happened and will always be painful to remember every time.

At some point, I wondered what was wrong with Maguie He was better than this, so I wondered what had happened to him that he had become an unbearable situation that the club could not bear with after so many disappointments coming from Maguire, and the mistake of Maguire cost the club a lot and the problem now is that nobody wants to buy the player the only thing that is best for him now is to retire, if am not mistaking last season it got to the point Maguire was used for laughter for both the commentators and every other person because once Maguire is mentioned then there is trouble or he has already fucked up.
Indeed he was made a joke, I mean common, look at the errors he committed it was as if he actually did them on purpose and the worst part about the whole issue is that he does these errors on a weekly basis whenever he is given an opportunity to feature for Manchester United. I can suggest another option than the retirement option you gave which will be for him to move to a smaller club atleast the pressure of playing for a big club will be eradicated.
Yes, as we know, Maguire often makes blunders and is often the scapegoat behind the defeats after defeats experienced by Manchester United. And whether it was his mistake or another reason that made him wrong and always blamed, the fact is that Maguire's mistakes are real and not just Manchester United fans. Because I, who witnessed it, would be annoyed if I saw him make a mistake or blunder.
But Maguire is also human who is bound to make mistakes or not play well, and if he stays at Manchester United, he really has to show everyone that he is still good enough to play for Manchester United.
1238  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Jakarta is in a pollution emergency, Is it caused by crypto mining? on: September 08, 2023, 02:43:13 PM
Was there a study provided that crypto-mining in Indonesia is one of the leading causes of pollution in the country? I am pretty sure the only reason they thought that crypto-mining was one of the reasons why the pollution is bad in the country is because of the studies that were done on other countries.
Maybe yes, but I don't think the cause of high pollution in Jakarta is crypto mining and I didn't find that news either.
And there are several causes of increasing pollution in Jakarta and the most striking of them is the PLTU (Steam Power Plant) around Jakarta, the smoke caused by the large number of vehicles, especially motorized vehicles. And also because the dry season means there is no rain, so smoke and dust will stay in the air longer before being carried by the wind to other places.
And perhaps this kind of situation is exploited or connected by people who are not happy with ktipto, because its popularity continues to grow so that they are looking for ways to take it down.
1239  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Typical scenario when you are losing on: September 08, 2023, 01:11:39 PM
When you wake up in the morning, even if you don't eat your breakfast meal, you first open your account at the online casino. Is that a habit of yours? Can't gambling be considered an addiction or vice? It's not like that's a normal person's work when you do it like that. No offense, mate, but it's true that when a person's mind is empty when they wake up in the morning, gambling is immediately on their mind.

Then, even though you're sleepy, you still insist on gambling. For me, that's not normal anymore, and it doesn't seem right anymore. It also appears that in that case, the gambler is well controlled in such a scenario.
If you wake up in the morning and the first thing that comes in your mind is gambling, it simply means that you are addicted to gambling and you need to get some help to get out of it. The same is with what happens when you are sleepy, if you sacrifice your sleep for gambling, it is a clear sign that you are a gambling addict, because a gambling addict doesn't always need to be out of money, they might always have money to gamble but they just do it all the time which is not right for them.

A normal gambler might have an urge to gamble as well but they can always control that urge and don't give up on their sleep or breakfast or any other thing they were about to do only to gamble first and then do that thing because a normal gambler tend to have self-control and a lot of patience.
Of course, gambling excessively and even ignoring important needs is an addiction. Because sleeping or resting and eating or breakfast are very important needs for us to stay healthy and fit, and if we ignore these needs then that is a big mistake.
And too much gambling is also pointless, because it will only result in you losing continuously. And gamble calmly, fit and full, because in such conditions you will concentrate when playing and also be calm so you can control yourself and you will also gamble at the right time when everything is fine.
1240  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Government vs Bitcoin on: September 07, 2023, 07:10:52 PM
I believe the government thinks Bitcoin is good, and they are smarter than us and they have done their research and studied it. And the reason they don't like it is because they can't control it and countries use their currency as a tool of economic power that allows them to control their people.
With Bitcoin, governments lose this ability, as they no longer have control and citizens can transact to receive or send money globally without the control of governments and third party financial institutions such as banks.
And although the government continues to oppose Bitcoin, it is like a revolution, slowly but surely. I mean, Bitcoin will still exist and continue to grow even though there are many FUD, enemies and so on because Bitcoin is the people's currency.
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