i am going to have enough 8 pins for the gpu's, i will be using 1200w for 3 gpus plus risers and the motherboard and one 1000w for the rest 3 gpus. im just going to used the satas that came with the riser to power them up
Some people recommend to not use the Satas. I’ve been using them though without any issues. You have been lucky - the SATA power connector ITSELF is only rated for 54 watts max draw on the 12VDC pins - the PCI-E BUS is specified to have up to 75 watts drawn from it (and some cards in review testing have been shown to pull more than THAT at least some of the time on peaks). If you are running the card in a "low power draw high efficient" setting, it might work OK for a long time - but why take the risk when MOLEX powered risers are no more expensive and DO power the riser safely (156 watt power rating on a MOLEX connector, just watch the WIRING for those).
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How much longer will the 1080Ti be the king?
What's on the horizon ?
It was already de-throned by the Titan Volta - and arguably by the Volta V100 - but when you factor in the COST it's still safe for another month or three, when the lower-end Volta based cards should start arriving. Other than "rig density" though, it never WAS the king of efficiency - but it's pretty close on the algorithms it DOES work well on when you factor in overall SYSTEM hash/watt. Vega 56 is VERY profitable - on Monero - if you can GET the bloody things at all and don't pay double MSRP for them. It is beat out on pretty much everything else by SOMETHING though, even AT MSRP pricing.
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A single PCI-E 8-pin (or 6+2 pin) connector split out with a QUALITY splitter to 2 6-pin connectors should handle the power load safely to power 2 risers.
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Innosilicon A4+ is the current "king of the hill" for Scrypt - if you have $10,000 or so to buy their min order of 3 at a time. BW.com supposedly is selling their L21 Scypt miner, but dunno any details on how or min order size - it's very close to the L3+ on specs. Otherwise, you're looking at the L3+ or at older-generation used miners like the Titan, A2, or Alcheminer.
Litecoin is the original Scrypt coin (and one of the VERY FIRST altcoins at all), I used to mine it on GPUs back when it COULD be GPU mined but that was ballpark 4 years back.
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Right now, due to infrastructure limitations, I'm only running 6 cards on it. CPU is a G4400, 8 GB ram
I'm not sure why I went with the 4400, I'm thinking "it was on sale at the time" most likely.
I'm still not sure what I'm going to do with the thing longer-term, keep bouncing between "lots of 1070 ti" and "lower count of 1080 ti" options.
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LTC $323 holy goats!
I didn't realise you were Hindu? 9-) It does make me happier once again with my A2 part of my farm, and even more irritated at the "min 3 order" aspect of the A4+.
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I use ethmonitoring.com with windows. It installs the miners, lets you switch profiles which control coin/pool (and set an afterburner profile), tracks pool profits, does alerts for hashrate per card or total, temperature, offline etc. and costs the same as smos. Has mobile apps too. Excuse the ad but I find it super useful. Though it doesn't give you the stability of linux and ability to run off a usb stick. Ill look into this, do you have to install it on every rig? Im working on tool of my own that is a stand alone app for just updating all rigs, reboting, changing miners and pools, starting stopping differnt batch files for differnt alogs as a stand alone app. I dont like the idea of installing something every damn rig, I prefer an app that can read ips from a list and do its thing. It's the ethCONTROL part that lets you set stuff, ethMONITORING is just a fairly good "watch the cards" application that doesn't need anything extra on the mining machines, just "enable the API" on the actual miner software. ethCONTROL is "tryware", they do charge for it for use on more than one machine past about a 1 month trial period.
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Decent card other than the JUNK fans. Cooling isn't noticeably better than the 2-fan EVGA SC model though.
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why would anyone want a miner that is better then the s-9 to be produced other then an s-11 by bitmain?
Because some of us DESPISE the garbage reliability level of recent Bitmain products. I just wish Innosilicon didn't have that "3 min order" on the A4+, especially with Litecoin prices going CRAZY the past week. Also, even if this miner IS legit, it's not going to have a huge rapid impact on profitability - they are going to run into the SAME issue as Bitmain about getting chips in the quantities they want.
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i used some plastic washers from the hardware store to lift the mobo from the wood frame, then used wood screws through the mobo mounting holes to secure it. i do need to figure out a better way to secure the psus instead of zip ties though ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Most hardware stores have some fairly small "shelf reinforcement" right-angle brackets of some sort. I think I've even seen some usable ones at Walmart. I've also seen "clips" apparently intended for automotive use, that have a "threaded" hole one one side and a small non-threaded one on the other side - the "threaded" side tends to be fairly large, #10 on the ones I'm planning to use, but the other side hole is suitable for the #6 screw to pass through and go into the PS itself. Try Ace and possibly other larger places like Menards, Lowes, Home Depot, for those.
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The "need 2 x 8-pin" part is why I'm moving away from the Aorus towards the EVGA SC, if I buy any more 1080 ti cards.
The Asus blower card I have was bought on sale VERY cheap, or I wouldn't have it.
I had seen mentions about the Zotac Amp Extreme line using "EKP ball bearing fans" or some such, the real question is about the REST of their cards.
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The final issue is total wattage, and my question to anyone who knows. If a card is limited to 126 watts (using SimpleMiner), where does the power for each card come from? Is it a mix from VGA and the PCI-e riser? Something like 100 watts VGA and 26 watts from PCI-e riser?
Or, is the power to the card considered from the VGA connector, and they PCI-e is separate power. If they are separate, then I'm doomed with a 1kw PSU. That would be 780 watts (230x6) for VGA + 450 watts (75x6).
Can anyone confirm if the total GPU card power is split between the PCI-e and VGA, or are they unique and separate?
The power draw is ALWAYS split between the two - the question is how does the card decide to do the split, which seems to be a "we're not talking" thing from the card makers, but a lot of testing seems to indicate that most cards use the PCI-E bus power draw as a priority over the PCI-E power connectors. It might also be, depending on the card, that certain parts are pulling from the bus (memory and fans perhaps) while the GPU pulls from the power connnectors - or even might be split by PHASE of the power conversion circuitry.
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All of my testing of dstm to date has been on flypool.
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Is that a G2L with the "universal" ports, or a standard G2 where the sata and peripheral ports look the same but are labeled differently?
(edit) never mind, just found a post from an EVGA employee in their forum about that point.
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Since the tensor cores are designed for 4 x 4 MATRIX FP16 operations, the question is "can they be used for mining at all?".
Gaming Volta cards will be lower core and/or smaller/slower RAM - just like when the original Titan was introduced on Pascal, then the 10xx cards followed it.
Core clocks might be a little higher on the smaller cards though, like in the Pascal line (lots less cores generating heat allowing for higher clocks).
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For reference - the GTX 750 ti is currently considered to be a BOTTOM LEVEL mining card. It has 640 CUDA cores, and also clocks quite a bit higher than your GT 210.
750 ti on Monero is good for around 250 hash/s - even IF your GT 210 worked at all, it might manage 6 or so, which is LESS than the IGPU on my A10 APUs manage.
By current standards, that isn't even an entry-level card - INTEL on-CPU graphics is more powerful, much less AMD iGPUs.
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Hi fullzero,
Thank you again for your great work. I've been using your latest version on 2 of my rigs w/ 13gpu each. I just redo the auto mining script on boot because of the GUI not loading when adding 7+ gpu. I just wanted to ask what tool do you use to create the image so i wont reconfigure again the mining on boot when i add again another rig.
Get one copy working. Use "dd" to copy that DRIVE to another drive of the same or larger size. If you use the same MB and GPU setup (CPU and RAM can vary), you now have a working clone of the first system. In some cases, you can even use a DIFFERENT motherboard, but might have to go in and edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf to match up to the correct PCI bus identifiers.
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EVGA G2 line is the Superflower "Leadex" platform, IIRC. Not sure on FSP, haven't had any experience with them. Corsair - depends on who MADE it, some are Seasonic made and I think they might have one line that is SuperFlower made, the rest tend to be lower quality to junk.
When it gets right down to it, there are perhaps 10 companies that actually manufacture standard ATX type power supplies - and most of the "well known brands" are NOT on that list.
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SUS has promised a driver update to do so 4th qrt 2017
when i add a 9th VEGA, 2 cards run at almost half speed (buss conflict), is there any solution aside from the awaited driver update?
thnx
Probably won't happen, due to driver limits, unless AMD updates their "blockchain" driver to support more than 8 cards under Win 10 - or IF they ever get around to releasing a WORKING driver for Vega under LINUX. Do you guys read previous posts?? AMD drivers are updated since 17.11.1 release. I currently run 17.11.4 with 12 AMD GPU on Biostar TB250-BTC Pro using Windows 10. You just need to select in AMD settings Gaming/Global settings/GPU workload/Compute, instead of Graphics on each of the AMD cards But the miners are still looking specifically for the blockchain driver version to support HIGH hash rates on VEGA. Perhaps when Cast and Stack-XMR get updated to no longer look for that specific version to get large page support....
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Caanan didn't buy out all the assets of KNC though - they probably just leased or bought the facility itself when it came on the market during the KNC bankrupcy.
8-)
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