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1241  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: July 25, 2020, 08:01:23 PM
Well, lazio will play verona and I think I can bet on that game very easily, that will be an easy pick for me, Juventus versus sampdoria would be easy pick as well. I do not think there is any more "easy" picks for the games, sure there are some that you can pick if you want to risk it, but I wouldn't really feel comfortable about them.

For example, you could pick Roma versus fiorentina, roma is a great team and could beat Fiorentina very easily if they play like they always do, but fiorentina is not a bad team neither, they are definitely a great team too. I am not entirely sure if I trust that game. Or torino will play spal and they are basically the very bottom team that 9/35 not losses (wins and draws) so I would assume that should be pickable as well but not really easy pick neither.
1242  Economy / Gambling / Re: Bitcasino.io 💜— Summer Jackpot Roulette ☀️ €500 jackpots every day on: July 25, 2020, 06:44:15 PM
Sportsbet.io and bitcasino.io are somehow connected? I didn't know that at all! I just checked and when you click the sportsbook link on bitcasino it redirects to sportsbet and I never really had to check because I was already gambling at sportsbet when I did sports betting and interestingly when you click "go to casino" in sportsbet it just goes to their own gambling, not really anything special like going to bitcasino and all that, in any case this is a wonderful news to hear. I wonder why we do not hear from Steve more often here, he is very active on the other sportsbook topic but never seen him here.

However there is just like a support that shares articles and that is actually quite good both for marketing purposes and I am sure it also helps with the SEO as well.
1243  Economy / Gambling / Re: 🔶 YOLOdice.com 🔶 play&invest BTC ETH LTC DOGE on: July 25, 2020, 04:31:47 PM
Trading and Gambling is obviously not the exactly the same thing, of course there are differences and mathematically speaking you could always become a good trader or you could just hold bitcoin for a very long time until you profit but gambling would always result with a loss if you continue for too long however you can't deny that even though there are differences between them, there are also a lot of similarities between them as well that makes them so much resembling each other.
Investing and trading also has one more common thing, you can invest into a casino, which means you become the house yourself and you have the house edge as well in your favor. So, investing is basically part of gambling as well, even if not the part from the gambler side, it is the part from the casino side, so it is all connected. Of course that is not trading, trading is something else, but it is definitely investment.

Also it is a very guaranteed investment most of the time as well, because you have the house edge working for you, all the gamblers are at a disadvantage when playing against you, so you end up with basically not losing too much unless some unexpected thing happens where a whale just wins max amount few times in a row to drop the investments profits.
1244  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Trading guides,books,articles whatever on: July 25, 2020, 03:55:10 PM
There are various sources which can help you to increase your trading career. Youtube is one of the best out there. But, you need to be careful on this video sharing platform because not all the content is quality. Many of them are totally trash and do not give you any information. Some even guide you a wrong way, make you become lost, and misunderstand the true concept of trading.
Actually most of the good channels out there are trying to promote a particular platform with each video they make and hence they shift their focus from trying to give tips about trading and rather promote the features offered by the exchange or platform they are promoting. They are not wrong though because how would they earn if they only give quality content without any sponsors?

So, they are right in their decision but the trader needs to understand if someone is actually trying to give tips on trading or just promoting an exchange.

I haven't read much books, guides, articles or videos but whenever I need help like how to use stop loss then I just google it and the top results on google search are usually good and enough to guide me how to use it.
1245  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Trade by yourself on: July 25, 2020, 12:32:22 PM
You're right lazy people usually trade counting on bots or signals they need to form more profit with less work but it's never possible to trade nobody can succeed without diligence Most of the time the signals are with the incorrect signals so trading is at a loss. If we analyze the market ourselves and trade then we will understand the present state of the market and gain knowledge The above discussion is great for traders.
I agree with you but I find no harm if we can take signals from various groups and use that information to analyse our own decision, for example you follow 5 signals groups and just try and find the average signal they are giving and then do your own diligence and see what's going in in the market. So, basically signals aren't that bad if you know how to use the signals to your advantage while if you just blindly follow signals that is a major risk like you said they are mostly incorrect. But comparing signals with your own prediction sometimes can be helpful.

There is a concept of copy trading very popular now days but I never actually liked it, because you get to learn nothing and with time you just become more and more dependent on others.
1246  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: It's ok if your profits are less on: July 24, 2020, 05:52:51 PM
Things will be better when we(traders) learn to be less greedy than outright greediness. Many had ran into huge lost in the past because of none accepted minimal profits from their trades, had one time fell for this but was saved by other of my investment. Right now, my trade profits are not less than 4% and not higher than 6%, this has kept my trading ability on a safer side compared to past experience.
that's the safest way to trade right now. not-so-large profits look quite safe compared to large profits. however, we will not know how it will turn out when you are not satisfied with the benefits you can get. to be honest, I've felt this way. when not satisfied with the benefits that I get, I finally get a loss because of that.
Actually this all depends on what kind of a trader you are, someone who loves to have big profits and then a band of losses would rather be greedy and try to get big profits and then slowly loose out the profits in the next trades. While someone who tends to sell at a small variance will look to accumulate small profits, while actually both kind of traders are good and can be profitable in their own stance.

For example, an experienced aggressive trader would make 0.01 BTC profit and loose 9/10 times on 0.001 trades which means he still earned 0.001 and on the other hand someone who takes small profit can earn 0.0001 btc fixed profit on each trade and hence he also makes 0.001 btc profit with 10 trades.
1247  Economy / Gambling / Re: 🔥BITSLER > $10,000 DAILY Wagering contest < on: July 24, 2020, 03:35:05 PM
Casinos require to have all kinds of games, that could mean slots, that could mean blackjack but they probably should have all the games they could ever provide, that way they could get all the people who have all the different tastes.

If you have only slots and no blackjack, you are missing out on blackjack loving people, if you have blackjack and no slots you are missing out on slots people. Sure some games might have bigger audience than other games but that doesn't mean that you should ignore those games neither.

If you are a casino the best marketing you can do is to have all the games you possibly can, that way people that love all those games would come and play their games. Same with crypto accepting, the more currencies you accept the more people you get that will play.
1248  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Is there any way to out of this insecurity? on: July 24, 2020, 10:26:51 AM

Don't just look at the news because basically, a large exchange will remain safe from hacking, if you save more assets then you don't need to exchange because there are still many safer hardware wallets. I think that's enough for a solution.

I think you are wrong, being updated and looking at the news is the most important part of crypto trading community because a lot of exchanges go through hack attempts and there are times when a particular exchange stops withdrawals like cryptopia did and those are the signals that hints towards an exit scam or being hacked so if you are not updated you might continue depositing money into the exchange and loose it all.

So don't overdo it about what you think it might be what the OP is afraid of just looking at it from the news and its basics are still many who believe in the cryptocurrency market.

Believing in the market is one thing and trusting the required process involved are two completely different aspects and you have to be careful and very active with your decisions because as we know crypto once hacked/stolen/lost cannot be recovered.
1249  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Why bitcoin never a ponzi on: July 24, 2020, 09:51:24 AM
@OP sure, and in Ponzi schemes they always needs to refer people, but in Bitcoin no one cares about that, you just join the train if you want to , no one is referring you to join Bitcoin, it’s something you do when you make up your mind to do that, no one is forcing you to stay or leave, but the community will still continue to go stronger every year.

None of the ponzis last for a long time and bitcoin despite being completely decentralized has survived more than 10 years. I would say that it's still in it's early stage and once bitcoin is distributed worldwide then it will be more appreciated as a payment service.

Bitcoin will definitely go far and a lot of people are going to join and start making use of it. But the way I see it , that doesn’t mean that there will not be people who are hating on it. If I remember correctly, in the beginning days of bitcoins, people used to compare bitcoin with ponzi programs.

In my understanding, bitcoin works exactly like how stocks are working hence we do not need to worry on what haters are saying. We can simply focus on saving more bitcoins instead of that Smiley.
1250  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Strengthening Property Rights of Bitcoin on: July 24, 2020, 08:56:28 AM
Of course for you to be under the protection of the government you will need to be registered with a centralized exchange and that would require you to go through KYC. Cryptocurrency is gradually changing from what it was originally meant to be, and it’s up to us as to whether we are ready to go with those changes or stick to what it used to be before now.

There are some people who are using cryptocurrency and they don’t want to be giving out their information, they prefer to be having the privacy, these are the people that won’t be interested in these kind of things. They will rather make use of decentralized exchanges, and put the risk securing their assets on themselves.
1251  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Never invest in any cryptocurrencies! on: July 24, 2020, 08:20:58 AM
in traditional money we can also earn by trading our national money thru forex exchanges but the movement of their prices is pretty stable unlike in crypto we can witness a huge increase, that is the opportunity everyone is waiting, you are correct it is not a get rich quick scheme it will not happen in just 1 day it needs time and patience.
Patience is literally the key to everything. Be it the crypto market, stock market or any other business in general, the heights can only be reached by being patient and up to date with information regarding the same. Crypto currency shouldn’t really be treated as digital money, it is more like an asset which can be used for transactions in various forms, invested in and traded. Crypto market is highly volatile which means you can either win big or lose big so tread carefully.

We are promoting crypto as investment rather than its ease of usage. If we discuss how convenient crypto is rather than discussing it as store of value, it may possible that the adoption would increase.
Cryptos currencies must be promoted as technology that can ease up people’s life rather than as an investment scheme. Investing in the same would than depend on the people. If they like the concept, they can invest capital in it. Most of the people out there are into making money and that’s perfectly normal.

But, it’s the duty of every crypto enthusiast to make them understand and learn the underlying technology in the projects or coins they are about to invest in.
1252  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: What the heck is happening to new projects? on: July 23, 2020, 08:32:17 PM
Since I've ranked up to junior member I decide to start my bounty hunting journey and after spending hours on bounty section on this forum I was shocked that no single bounty is of high quality and worth my time, all I see is projects going for crap exchanges like ChainX and another one called leadwallet that wants to raise fund using ChainX and all team members are Nigerians, really? And many members are promoting such project? The good projects are over or I'm missing something?

Aren't there bounty projects that list on gate.io, binance, okex, huobi ? ChainX, p2pb2b, exmarket and others like these exchanges will only drag the project down, are bounty hunters blind or just too stupid to do research?
This has been happening from the very start. You got to be smart in choosing a good bounty campaign project. The number of good campaigns are very few as compared to the fraud and scandalous ones. Also, the ongoing covid-19 situation has dropped the economy of many countries, so it has limited the number of projects that are being launched at the moment.

Many projects are at halt and are waiting for the market to settle down and for the right now. Also, I don’t think its right to defame a project if it doesn’t meet your expectations. A project you call crap today can be a huge deal in few days so never underestimate something. Although I agree with your point that everyone should do their own research before investing their time and money in anything.
1253  Economy / Speculation / Re: Living with parents again could fuel the next Bitcoin bull run. on: July 23, 2020, 07:43:58 PM
The first thing, some countries' people will never think about saving and even they are putting some of their saving into bitcoins, unfortunately they never think about long-term holding. They just work on short-term momentary benefits. Believe or not, such country people are having more literature and well aware of bitcoin and its potential.
There are two types of economy world wide: saving economy and spending economy. Mr. Satoshi it seems they are from "saving economy" based traditions. If bitcoin market has been dominated by real holders and true believer of bitcoins then we probably might have got bitcoins with massive value already. But, unfortunately this space is dominated by traders; they just need some profits today and no bother about tomorrow. So, I agree with you that major portion of bitcoin adopter are from spending economy based traditions.

the gov is printing and fear of that savings being erroded is high. Panic buying incoming
But, you need to consider about the people who lose jobs by this time and slow down of economy of most countries. I mean some people are able to save more money after covid19 outbreak whereas some other people are not getting their regular salary like how they were getting before covid19. Still, I agree with you that panic buying is going to happen on this space as there will be more people having excess money on hand.
1254  Economy / Speculation / Re: Is Bitcoin Looking Bullish now? on: July 23, 2020, 06:08:11 PM
As of now, bitcoin is trading around $9600~ which must be an enough thing to confirm that bitcoin is looking bullish right now. I believe as the news on covid19 vaccine gets intensifying, it seems investors are getting back their confident about good economy conditions everywhere, so we are having bitcoin is trading above $9500 levels which was seeming too hard target some two weeks back. I guess this is time for FOMO to be coming into action.

I guess only FOMO influenced market condition alone seeming like bullish trend for some people's eye but they are wrong in my opinion. Because, bitcoin is into bullish trend since June of 2019. Yes, it is slowly recovering from the bottom after the ATH. Unfortunately it tested the bottom again due to covid19 outbreak. So, bitcoin is already into bullish trend for more than a year but it has not manged to trade near ATH.
1255  Economy / Speculation / Re: Guys avoid panic sell... on: July 23, 2020, 05:32:29 PM
What I do not understand is the fact that in every investment guide book you see that during the worst of the moments the prices go down so you buy stuff cheaper. This is not just crypto, it works in stock markets, it works in gold, it works in basically anything that is an investment, buy a house during the worst moments of pandemic and you will get it 30% cheaper for sure and you can haggle even further down because people would be afraid and market would be horrible.

So, I would say that people should have been smart during the pandemic and all buy instead of sell, because investments will get back, what is it to bitcoin if there is a pandemic? Bitcoin is still bitcoin and nothing changed for it, look at other nations they are printing money and losing value in fiat while bitcoin is still strong. It should have gone up during that period instead of going down.
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The thing about continue to play is the fact that you should not stop, but you should not continue neither and not many people realize that part of the gambling business. If you stop all together and not gamble, sure you would be ahead but are you going to never gamble ever in your life? That is not possible at all or even if it is possible that means you are out totally and you are not part of the gambling world, which is a solution if you want that but I would rather continue gambling.

However if you stay and continue to gamble the way you have that means you might even get not only your profits but your deposit lost as well. So, should you do? You should put the profits in a vault, or just back to your wallet, that way you took out the profits and gamble with the deposit once again.
1257  Economy / Gambling / Re: Stake 3 Out Now!!! 🚀 🎰 🏀 ⚾ 🏈 🎾 🥊 🎲 on: July 23, 2020, 04:08:18 PM
I have always suspected they do believe they have good "giveaways/competitions/promotions" but in the end we all know that is not even remotely close. Sure they do have probably the most frequent and high paying "race" or basically known as competition in place, and I do not think anyone but stake can do it this frequently for this high amount.

However that doesn't mean that they have great giveaways as well, I haven't seen a single one in recent memory that made me want to register to their forum, like think about it, they are so low that I would rather not even go register somewhere which would take like 1 minute at max.

I am sorry stake, there is some things you are awesome at and why we are here (such as being the best casino there is) but some things you are not as good as you think you are and probably 10% of what you think you are, do not worry, we still love you this way because it is the most trustworthy and awesome casino in the crypto world, we do not request anything more.
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Glad to see another Steve Multi Magic opportunity! Of course, I've seen them before, but this is the first time I'm taking part and placing the bet. The potential win is very attractive, and I'm sure Steve knows what he's doing. So good luck to the teams, to Steve and to all of those who are betting on the win! The teams in the multi all have good chances of winning in their own games, but, naturally, a combo is not very likely. Let's hope it happens!
The boosted 12.00 looks amazing from 9.44 to 12 is a HUUGE jump if you ask me and totally worths it. Obviously it is a very tough bet to make because even at the low version it is 1 to 9.44 chance to hit that, which shows you how hard it is. Think about it in dice terms and that makes people easier to understand, if you roll a dice with 9.44x chance to hit, how often do you plan on hitting that? Roughly once every 10 times right? Well this is about the same but in sports games instead.

I would still bet because there is a bigger boost that would make things a lot more fun and the house edge looks non-existent (and even maybe helping the customers in this case) so I would take advantage of this bet, but only because there is a boost that makes it a lot more valuable to bet over the original version.
1259  Economy / Economics / Re: Can we agree BTC is not a store of value? on: July 23, 2020, 03:08:14 PM
Nothing in the world is reliable, just as BTC is not reliable.
It can't be called a store of value because it rotates. It's value sometimes upswings and sometimes lowerings. It can't be said that the BTC store could be very worthwhile in the future. Because it is skeptical.
People can think whatever they want but I will still use it as a currency and not any value. People think that they could put in 10 thousand dollars into bitcoin and get roughly 1 bitcoin and change, they could keep it there, if inflation happens their bitcoin will go up and in theory they will not lose any money, sure they are "earning" some but at the same time life gets more expensive so they are keeping their "value" which is the idea of store of value.

I do not see bitcoin like that, I see it as a thing that you can spend and earn, just like dollars, just like euros, I see bitcoin as a currency. I will work, earn some, I will then go out and spend it, that is what bitcoin is for me. So to speak, I agree that it is not a store of value, not because it can't be but because I do not use it that way at all.
1260  Economy / Economics / Re: Interesting perspective of Investors on: July 23, 2020, 02:29:06 PM
Even if the price is going to climb over 10k people will continue to hodl.
This happens because the ATH was nearly 20k so they might be waiting to reach it again in the near future. For a small minority 20k is always a level that it is not satisfying to sell.
That 20,000 still is among people's mind and while it is always a bad thing to chase a particular price for an asset it is good that at least having that number makes you hold for even longer. It's almost like when we gamble and suppose we started from 0.02 BTC and stand at 0.01 then we would never feel the same happiness going to 0.015 than it is to get back up to 0.02 again.

the purpose of them still holding bitcoin to sell is of course about an ATH because whatever the price of bitcoin as long as there is still a lot of support and high market activity then I think bitcoin holders will still be there.
Yeah but being very honest I think till they die as mentioned in OP might be exaggeration because when a dump happens a lot of guys who are right now saying they won't sell off are actually the ones who sell the coins immediately.
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