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1241  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin or Gold? What would you pick? on: October 27, 2016, 05:33:42 AM
I made 3.16% on my btc since yesterday...
How  much did you guys make on your gold?




Good for you man, bitcoin is good because it can give us profit even for a short period of time.. That is something we can brag as a bitcoin supporter and investors at the same time. If price increase will continue, we can make more than what you have earned now. Just hold steady I guess.
1242  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Trading issues. on: October 26, 2016, 08:53:29 AM
I have problem with withdrawals sometimes but no problem yet during deposits, trading sites are good in accepting money from traders. LOL.
Actually, most of the issues I encountered are not so serious and in just a matter of hours my problem with my withdrawals are solve especially when you are active in sending tickets.
1243  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: The Best Time to Become a Trader on: October 26, 2016, 08:48:03 AM
The best time is if you have the capital investment, you know the basic, the do's / don't and that's all about it. You're on your way of becoming well seasoned trader.
Anytime someone is become trader. I agrer that we need capital to trade because if you dont have money to trade its useless. The time is running you can start trading if you have capital for you to earn money.
No one could become a trader at any time that too particularly a good trader. Only after some mock trading experience and drills by developing some own strategies to test market fluctuations, a person could become a trader. Without them, trying to be a trader must be very dangerous as it will lead to big losses.
The best time to become a trader is right now off course we all know that when you start with the trades right now you will always make money with the bitcoin for sure
you oonly have to do it right.
No ,you're wrong you can't always make money with trading .even you do or trade in a right way you can't go against manipulators its not easy .that's why some of the traders quit or stop trading because they lose their money .you can't called it best time to become a trader cause you don't know what actually trade is ,its not always profit as you think you have to learn as you've already start trading.
People think mostly newbies think that trading makes them easy money, but the reality is trading is unpredictable and you need to be full time to monitor the asset your are trading and to get the right timing to buy and sell. Especially when you are a day trader, that would be a hard job to do to be successful.
1244  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Why you should consider investing in bitcoin on: October 26, 2016, 08:35:37 AM
Well I think bitcoin will be boom in the next few months. but as for now if the value is low just hold on to your bitcoin and wait for the right time to do trading once price will go up.
That's what I feel as well, the price is beginning to rise again and I believe if this continues we might hit the $1,000 mark this year or before the end of this year..and that is sometime like a very good news for us that we should consider investing bitcoin now as it is not late to start.
1245  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: I have 5K€ to invest ! on: October 26, 2016, 08:31:13 AM
5k is allot of money are you sure you want to invest this into the bitcoin also when the bitcoimn is going to drop are you sure you want to go on with it i dont think that
is going to help you know you have to do other thing with that 5k!
It is not actually a lot because we do not have the same financial status in life, for the rich that is just a a decent amount that they can afford in investment, for us maybe it is big so we should not raise that amount to invest so we will not fall hard if we fail.
1246  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Minimum Amount To Start Trading? on: October 26, 2016, 08:25:13 AM
Trading in altcoins can be started even at 0.001btc but that kind of trading doesnt worth any think,the minimum amount i say should be 0.25btc reserved for that.Its not neccessary to use them all at once,must that much must be in reserve.
I think even 0.1 btc would be sufficient.In fact there is no minimum amount needed for trading but if you want to make big,invest big but you should be able to afford the risk also

0.25  is actually just  too much for a newcomers to trading job,0.001 is quite effective if you can manage to always making profit and the fees doesn't matter at this time,otherwise still better to save money and gain more to start with higher balance but there's nothing wrong to start with 0.001
how can 0.25 too much to start trading? i guess it is a reasonable amount ,
you can not expect anything if you start trading with 0.001 lol ,
even 0.25 for most trader are still very little capital ,
you need to take a risk even you are a newcomer it is the important thing in trading.

i am start trading with 0.001 and i only buy altcoin with small price in under 50 satoshi and suddenly i have my luck that altcoin is getting jump for the price until reach about 200-300 satoshi and i can make much of bitcoin for that. so don't under estimated if 0.001 can make much of bitcoin  Grin

i do that too, start trading at 0.001 (small investment especially on ICO at yobit or if I happen to see a pump on a coin happening)  then mostly i buy those at 1 sat LOL.  It is a gamble in my part because of the very big chance of that coin becoming worthless.  Well at least with that amount im not bagholding huge number of coins.  Then if 50% profit is seen i sold all of it then buy at the same price with the profit and keeping my initial investment safe.
Do it just for fun or your way to learn how to trade, with 0.001 that will not affect your so much financially when you fail but the learning you get is very valuable, time will come you will learn and improve your knowledge and that is the time to put bigger money to trade.
1247  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: How to make a successful Trade? on: October 26, 2016, 08:17:52 AM
Successful trade is where you buy low and sell it for a higher price. But a successful trade requires patience to make it happen. If you are not willing to wait then you can't do any successful trade.

every little kid out there who has never done any trading in his life knows that you should buy low and sell high, that is no successful trading, that is called use your brain 101.
a successful trading means knowing what price is low and what is high.
Definitely it should not be taught how to make a successful trade as the answer is very obvious.

Our only problem is the right timing to sell and buy the assets we like to trade, and it has been said many times in different threads that we need to study the assets we are trading and not just blindly trade.
1248  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Where to invist / store my Bitcoins? on: October 26, 2016, 08:14:02 AM
Just hold it, the future is good for bitcoin.. Holding is the only safest way to invest and you just wait until the price will increase and when you see you desired price then that is the time to sell, pretty simple in making money here if you believe on the future of bitcoin..
1249  Other / Off-topic / Re: My First Bitcoin and what's your ? on: October 26, 2016, 08:06:21 AM
I get the information in the internet, I love to gamble so I know bitcoins because bitcoin is easy to use when you are a gambler and you can gamble anytime at different gambling sites, until now I am still using bitcoin for such activity and I am enjoying it.
1250  Economy / Economics / Re: Is it better to save money or invest it? on: October 26, 2016, 06:17:08 AM
I'm usually invest rather than save since when I'm save my money, I must pay some monthly fee
meanwhile invest usually will make profit only when you keep hold until it reach highest value for example : gold or bitcoin
Well, all the people have there bills to pay because we need to spend to survive in this world, but if you have an income it is just right to save just a little portion of your income, actually you can be successful in saving if you will treat savings as a compulsory thing.
1251  Economy / Economics / Re: If you were in desperate need for money.... on: October 26, 2016, 05:58:01 AM
If I was in desperate need I'd work 7 days a week, 12 hours a day, and do all sorts of questionable shit. Including those random medical tests.

Haha seriously? no way I would ever even consider taking part in paid clinical trials to get out of a money jam, the moment you sign that consent form you basically turn into a lab rat  Cheesy Plus you could end up with health complications costing you even more money. You'd be better off working your ass off with 2 jobs for 18 hours a day. 

That's one thing that we should never sacrifice ever, our health... If you are still healthy you could earn more and you could pay your debts... I think I'll agree with working on many jobs in a day as long as you can handle it.. The more jobs you have the lesser the chance that you'll have a problem with money... Just make sure to take a rest if you are feeling uncomfortable due to fatigue...  Smiley
If we are not healthy anymore we will not be able to enjoy our money, and the essence of having more money would not give you freedom to do it. Always take care of your health as that is your main resources to reach for your dreams but always remember to live a balance living to be happy in this world. We are just living temporary here, so live it wisely.
1252  Economy / Economics / Re: Is gold better than Bitcoin? on: October 26, 2016, 05:55:34 AM
As much as I love bitcoin, the credibility of the gold will not lose ever. If you keep all your savings in gold it is real security.

That is undeniable.
But sometimes I fear that having that much wealth concentrated in such small pieces of metal is not that kind of "distributed" security I would want to have.
Securing this metal becomes part of your very security, …
Bad security means someone (robbers, government, etc..) can very easily take those pieces of metal away from you.

And then what?

-sf-
Then it is same with bitcoin as well,bitcoin wallets can be hacked and you bitcoins can be robbed as well and same thing with any kind of money,its upto you how you keep them safely,weather bitcoin or gold.Actually i would feel more safe with gold because that would be under my own security.
Gold is always an safer investment in terms of profits and also in security as if you keep them safe in your personal locker then no one can touch them and it can also give you good profits in long term as everyone is sure that gold will not simply disappear and same feeling doesn't comes for bitcoins.
locker can be destroy or destructable,imagine if someone rob your house which there's the place you save your gold in a locker and then it's just need to be open by using such a gun or destructive thing then you lost your gold,locker is just gimmick
Gold requires big investment as you also need to safe guard your assets and that implies expenses, therefore never attempt to invest gold if you do not have all the means to do it and the resources required for the success of your investment.
1253  Economy / Gambling / Re: Gambling site with faucet on: October 26, 2016, 05:53:21 AM
1.Primedice.com
2.Rollin.io
3.https://bitdouble.io/

But i think faucet is just to try the site.Most of the sites have strong rules against faucet abusers. And of course there are also so many sites that gives you bonus to try. Maybe you can try. Better than faucet.

Faucets are just some promotion of those gambling sites to get more visitors in return of their visit, they are giving free satoshi's and upon giving some satoshi's visitors are going to try to gamble. And if ever they are going to lose that free sat's then that is the right time to invest with those gambling sites and also include bitvest with it.
True, you can do faucet all day but you can never get a decent amount just doing faucet.. The amount given or your reward is just a little satoshis and that would just be a waste of time when in the end you will still gamble. That's is not entertaining for me as you have to spend much of your time but in the end you will still lose it.
1254  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: To Gamble or To Invest? on: October 26, 2016, 05:49:30 AM
If I were to ask I loved to Invest more. In investing, there are investing company that allows you to leave your money every month and it will grow after 10 years. Some investment are only for short time. In investing, you get money after a long period of time but on Gambling, you might lose a lot of money in a short time without control. It is both risky because investment company tend to lose a lot of money for a long period of time that tend to be one of the scam investing company but still I prefer it when I able to see a legit one.
That would also the action I will choose, only if I need to choose only one but if not I would do both. My aim in gambling is not the same when in investing so I guess I would be fine. I can have fun in gambling while I can make money in investing, so honestly there's nothing to sacrifice if that is your happiness.
1255  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: If you were rich, would you still gamble? on: October 26, 2016, 05:46:27 AM
If I were rich yes I would want to try to gamble. For sure my mind set when I am rich is that gambling is not that bad. I will meet some investors and businessmen during the time I will play gambling. It is a nice avenue for meeting like minded people. I will play and hoping for a win. I will try it because I know I will be sparing some money to play or bet, but still I will need to control myself.
Don't try, you should do. There no much to worry when you are rich as you have the freedom to spend your money to be happy. If only I am rich I will not just gamble online but I will still gamble in different physical casino to get more entertain and since money is not a problem to me then I will be safe from addiction.
1256  Economy / Economics / Re: Invest your bitcoins. on: October 26, 2016, 05:41:55 AM
i think almost all of investments is scam Smiley after they get at they're quota they will become a scam like other investments scam :3 i think that we can't risk at investments because they will stole your btc Smiley they will let you profit low and they will get your high balance.

Our concepts are made in that way now, because we have seen a lot of scammers in the world of bitcoin that now even if a legit investment platform appears we would first think that it might scam us, and that is a right thing to do, doing some research before investing anywhere is always needed.
Ofcourse it needed because we are putting our hardly earned money it that so some investigation and discussion is needed . And more importantly when investing bitcoin because 90% of the bitcoin investing sites are scam sites or even more than that.

That is true. It is better to just invest in the bitcoin itself. Do you invest your bitcoin in the scam sites.

this is what many people do when they have bitcoin and don't know about trading. invest bitcoin by holding it for a long time is a good thing for investment but don't forget, we can make our bitcoin more grow in amount. but of course from many sites that offering investment programs, there is only few of that site will real legit and pays the member. and all investment that we know have risk that we should thing.
If you are active in the community you can spot different kind of investment opportunity and you can grow more your bitcoins than holding it for a longer period or time, actually we just have to clarify here that when you hold the value will just grow but not the total numbers of your bitcoins but when you trade or invest that in a certain site you trust, for sure it will grow if you succeed.

as i said many times before it is a lot better if you start your own business instead of investing in someone else's business and get paid a tiny portion of their profit!

and i know it is harder to start your own business and it may require some more money but also you have to remember that earning money (a decent amount of money) is always hard.
It's hard but it's possible for everyone to start investing, every investor starts from small beginning and they are just to patient to grow their money. Like chinese say, it is fine to have small income as long as it is consistent. In our place, chinese are successful businessman because they have a good quality towards business.
1257  Economy / Economics / Re: Why do people keep saying BTC is dead?! on: October 26, 2016, 05:10:26 AM
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Why do people keep saying BTC is dead?!

Just don't mind them cause most of them are just trollers or some newbies. What you have to do when bitcoins price gets lower is to buy bitcoin, of course just moderately, Your spare money will be enough. As long as there are people who mine/use/supports bitcoin it will not disappear. It will be best to get used of bitcoins fluctuation .

Exactly, the ones who say bitcoin is dead or it will die soon are most probably those who are new and does not know anything about it, or the ones who knows everything but they want others to stop using it because they hate it.
They are just trolling really, to feel there presence that haters do exist and only stupid people will also believe on what they see as it is a different thing that we have witness now, bitcoin is full alive and we are enjoying its benefits and that is self explanatory I guess.

They don't have something to do, that's why instead of working with their precious time. They are putting some fear to the bitcoin users and keeps trolling around. Just don't believe these types of false news, they just wanted to make a new issue about bitcoin so that people will not going to trust bitcoin and shift with their BS alt coin.
What would they get for spreading false information about bitcoin that it is dead, I think there's nothing to benefit with it because bitcoin in the first place is very alive, I do not know why they do that or maybe they are a competitors who are threaten by the popularity of bitcoins.
1258  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: WAVES. Ultimate crypto-tokens blockchain platform. on: October 26, 2016, 05:02:29 AM
Currently #8 on CMC - https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/views/all/

Next to knock out - Dash, then  Monero.

Enjoy these days of the tsunami of Waves ascending to #1.

Monero has gone back to its silent quiet days. read that something of theirs got shutdown due to lack of interest. but it will reopen in Jan 2017.
so come NOV and DEC....WAVES CAN TAKE OVER Monero in ranking!!!

The bright future of WAVES.



RIDE ON!
I would love to see that, hope it will take over monero as in terms of volume it will really be possible for waves to succeeds, just stay patience and the trust of this project, we are a big community and developers are making their best effort to make this successful.
1259  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Everyone looses in the long run on: October 26, 2016, 04:55:47 AM
Gambling site was built by the owner to give him the profit of money he has spent. Gambling isnt a charity foundation that give people free money anytime. Although there are some professional gamblers out there, the site owner surely will be always trying to beat all of them. Thats the fun side of gambling, where we could test our luck and skills combined against the house. Maybe you couldnt win everyday, but if you bet responsibly and patiently, you couldn't be disappointed so bad.


Well gambling is business of course owners will always want their gamblers to lose in the long run because they are going to get profit if their gamblers are going to lose. And I haven't heard someone that he is winning in the long run. Most of the time, gamblers are just losing in the run when they win that is just for a short time.
I heard that some are winning in gambling but that was just a story since I do not know their names, and yes we will lose in the long run and that is base on my experience as well as gambling sites are designed that way.
It's true but really hard to win in the long run for a simple gambler, it has always been a debate if there's really someone who can make money in the long run and most of the testimonies are it's not possible because we do not have the experience yet to prove it.
1260  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Bitcoin Gambling Investments on: October 25, 2016, 12:48:31 PM
Oh yeah many can be pretty profitable something people should look at is short term you might have some loses but long term investments will more then likely be profitable.
Because in the end the house always wins, for every big win it normally stimulates bets. And in most cases you see people lose back those big wins.

Counting on it Smiley
That's definitely the main reason why it is really good to invest in gambling sites, if only all the gambling sites we put our money in will stay in operation longer and will not our investment, life is so easy as long as we have a decent capital to invest.
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