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I think that changing the difficulty for casinocoin every block as with the gravity well is a bit too much as casinocoin has a faster blocktime compared to MegaCoin. Transcoder wants to re-target every 120 blocks which is once every hour. If you add the min/max rise/fall to the equation i think we have a good future proof difficulty.
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@frufru - Yes, I plan to start working on an to update the CasinoCoin client early next week to incorporate changes in Litecoin 0.8.6.2 as soon as I'm done with updates to the CasinoCoin API. This will make it compatible with Mac OS X Mavericks in addition to other improvements since Litecoin 0.6.9.2. I'm also considering a change in difficulty adjust as detailed in my message below.
As i requested via PM, please also consider adding QR code support in the Desktop Wallet as i will need that for my Mobile Wallet, ... otherwise users will need to manually enter wallet addressses on the phone which is not very easy to do. @casinocoin - It would also be nice if your casino deposit generates a QR code for the address, that way people could transfer coins very easy and fast from their mobile wallet by just scanning the code. In general, development is progressing on the mobile wallet. I think i am still on track for a first beta release on android within 2 weeks. |
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The current difficult adjust time is 720 blocks. At 30-second block times, theoretically, the difficulty adjustment occurs every 6 hours. I am considering a change that would cut the adjustment time by 1/6th to 120 blocks, which is approximately every hour.
Other variables to consider are the damping rate and maximum percentage of difficulty adjust (ie. the maximum the difficulty can increase or decrease per adjustment period). I will need to do some research to see what values are effective, but I'm open to any ideas that you may have.
I totally agree with that. And i think the addition of dampening is a very good one if the re target time goes to 1 hour. As the retarget will be pretty fast i would set the min/max change per re target to 10%. In regards to auto selling, ... i believe that effect will disappear automatically when the difficulty gets more stable and the coin value will start rising gradually. |
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What OS have you compiled on and what version of boost are you using? With what commandline do you start casinocoind and are all filesystem rights in place? I always start the casinocoind with the -datadir and -conf parameters to indicate which directory and file to use so i can assure the correct rights to the wallet and config file both allowing it for one specific user and denying it for the rest of the world.
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We are in the exact same cycle as yesterday:
Current Difficulty: 2.70954313
Est. Next Difficulty: 0.91128132 (Change in 274 Blocks)
Est. Avg. Time per Round (Network): 1 minute 29 seconds
Instead of 4 re-targets per 24 hours we are getting 2 re-targets per 24 hours. One from about 2.5 -3 to 0.8-1.2 and one vice versa.
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please help us mining! its 0% fee pool! mine with us  When are you going to stop spamming this thread? Put your pool related messages in the pool thread and leave this main thread clean!! |
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ajochems: I very much agree with your assessment. Network hash rate drops too far when multipools switch out. Seems there's even a risk of being forked during these phases. At times it drops to ~50MH/s or lower. Multipools also hurt the stability of the value as many probably hash directly to cryptsy with auto-sell active, so the market gets flooded with unwanted and undervalued coins.
Isn't it possible to adjust difficulty according to time interval? Once per hour or once per x amount of blocks, which ever is reached sooner..?
Exactly, ... it is the combination of the drop in networkhashrate and still high difficulty. Since we retarget after 720 blocks and the average time per block rises from the target 30 seconds (6 hours) to about 100 or more (about 20 hours or more) we get into trouble. Because of the average block time that does not get adjusten we see blocks found slower, confirmations take longer, transaction speed drops. This is not good for what the coin was meant for, a fast coin for fast casino transactions. I think illodin has a very good point!!! We should include time as a parameter into the retarget formula but i would also lower the amount of blocks to retarget anyway. If you cut it in half and retarget every 360 blocks that would be normally every 180 hours. If we take whatever is sooner, time or blocks for a retarget it would be like this: - profitability rises, network hashrate increases - average block time drops below target 30 sec, e.g. to 20 sec, retarget based on time would be in 180 minutes, retarget based on blocks would be in 120 minutes - as soon as the 360 blocks are reached difficulty should be recalculated and will rise - profitability drops, network hashrate decreases - average block time rises above target 30 sec e.g. to 45 sec, retarget based on time would be in 180 minutes, retarget based on blocks would be in 270 minutes - as soon as 180 minutes are reached difficulty should be recalculated and will drop My proposal would be: - default retarget in 360 blocks or 180 minutes, whatever is reached first @transcoder: if you do not want to change the retarget block count, at least include the time for 720 blocks which is 360 minutes into the retarget conditions as min/max setting. Although i think that the erratic behavior justifies a lower retarget block count as well. Do you have the knowledge to make such adjustments to the casinocoin source code? |
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Things are getting worse on the CSC network  To stabilize the coin i suggest we seriously look into how to block multipools! Currently difficulty will drop from 2.5 to 0.9 in about 250 blocks. Network hashrate is down to 130 MHash and all miners except my own have left my pool. On top of that i currently am hitting an incredible no block found round of almost 900%!! So not finding blocks when difficulty is too high and when the difficulty will adjust in about 250 blocks all multipools will get back on casinocoin bringing in about 75% of all network hashing power which will cause the other pools not to find blocks as well. This way i am not making any profit on neither miners nor pool. I setup the pool to generate some income to pay for the CSC developments i am working on but currently it only costs me money. If this continues i will be forced to close down https://www.megamineros.com/CSC so if anybody has any suggestions please bring them forward. How do multipools calculate profitability? I think they probably use gethashespersec on the casinocoind daemon? Various coins have already disabled that. Also i am convinced that if we adjust difficulty more often in will help stabalize the big swings. Any other suggestions on how to block multipools? can they be locked out the network somehow? For casinocoin to be used as the currency for casinos we need to have stable mining to handle all future CSC transactions as fast as possible. So help solving this issue, it will benefit all CSC miners in the long run! |
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solely based off the stats of the top miners in the pool I am in, it seems like lots of people are bailing  I'm not a big miner but I mined on 2 pools minimum 24 hours each and the both paid out approx 50-65% of what was expected so I'm mining something else for now. I don't have time to test every pool out to find one that acyually pays approx what is expected, so may I ask which one are you using? Hi, I run https://www.megamineros.com/CSC and its a small pool. In the long run it does not matter that much if you mine on a big or a small pool. Short term a small pool can be more erratic but on longer time spans like a week or more there is no or little difference. The last two weeks did have large fluctuations and there are higher spikes in finding blocks, that is all caused by the coinhoppers. They really impact difficulty and are damaging the stability of coins. Also this complicates the calculations on which the predictions are based. What can be a danger is having one pool getting too big and getting more than 50% of the network hashrate. That can really endanger a coin and miners should spread out over the various pools and not all stick to the same. Mining is not only about finding coins but also in handling transactions, ... if the network goes down the coin dies with it! In cgminer you can load balance your mining power over various mining pools and thus helping the network stability and its future. Yes It should average out, I'd be happy at 110% block find rate, but huge swings over 24hrs don't seem right, especially when those swings carry on for more than 24hrs and are always in the negative. I just looked at block percentage totals for three CSC pools, all are between 140% and 180%, indicating much longer than expected average block find times. I know that is over a very short time frame but that is indicative of the actual payment I was getting over longer 24hr + windows. I was on one pool for approx 72 hours before I realized I was wasting my time there. Without going to every CSC pool to find one that has a block find time least 110%, I'm assuming something is wrong with the hash/diff/block payout or something. If it is all attributed to coin hoppers then fair enough but a real shame. As a comparison the pool I am on now, mining a different coin, (that has a larger hashrate but still has +- 25% diff swings) the pool is at 102% block find percentage now and paid roughly 100% of expected coins for 2 weeks straight with only minimal daily payment swings, and has been since I last posted in this thread. I think the coin retargets diff every 4 mins. Edit: BTW if you see GhettoMiningCo pop up, that's me. That is an interesting conclusion. I am running for little over a month now and if i look at the block find over that period it is now at about 115%. If i look at the biggest pools like csc.hash.so and csc.dedicatedpool.com they are too high as well. So you are right in that in general it is too high and should be lower. How do solominers perform? Do you guys have high percentages as well? In that case, what could be wrong with the network? I can imagine that if one pool gets too big (50% or more) that it will hurt other pools as well moving all miners in the end to one pool which is NOT good. So i stay with my previous suggestion, either all big miners (hash power of 5MHash or more) do solo mining or they spread out their hashpower over all available pools to flatten out block find percentages and make the network more stable. |
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solely based off the stats of the top miners in the pool I am in, it seems like lots of people are bailing I'm not a big miner but I mined on 2 pools minimum 24 hours each and the both paid out approx 50-65% of what was expected so I'm mining something else for now. I don't have time to test every pool out to find one that acyually pays approx what is expected, so may I ask which one are you using? Hi, I run https://www.megamineros.com/CSC and its a small pool. In the long run it does not matter that much if you mine on a big or a small pool. Short term a small pool can be more erratic but on longer time spans like a week or more there is no or little difference. The last two weeks did have large fluctuations and there are higher spikes in finding blocks, that is all caused by the coinhoppers. They really impact difficulty and are damaging the stability of coins. Also this complicates the calculations on which the predictions are based. What can be a danger is having one pool getting too big and getting more than 50% of the network hashrate. That can really endanger a coin and miners should spread out over the various pools and not all stick to the same. Mining is not only about finding coins but also in handling transactions, ... if the network goes down the coin dies with it! In cgminer you can load balance your mining power over various mining pools and thus helping the network stability and its future. |
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@casinocoin
As you already know i am currently working on a mobile CSC wallet. I also started working on a mobile CSC Blackjack game but both take some time as i do this in my spare time. The blackjack game will need the mobile CSC wallet, so i will first terminate the wallet and then continue with the game.
I do not have the intention to put the game in the market myself as i am not sure about all legal issues surrounding that. For now it seems there is no need for a official casino license as that is only required for casinos that use real money but anyway, i am a developer and do not have the intentions to run a casino. I would like to profit of a casino game i build on a regular basis though and not only with a one time payment so if a percentage of the profits would be negotiable i would be interested. Any way, as already said it would take some time and i will contact you when i have something finished to show you.
This post really got me thinking - is the way to differentiate Casinocoin to develop a quality lineup of mobile games that can only be played with CSC? A lot of coins have multiple gaming sites built around them, but I have yet to see anything significant related to mobile gaming apps. This could be a good direction to focus a lot of attention on. But maybe there's a reason why it's not happening? I'm assuming it would be difficult to get these types of apps listed in app stores. You'd probably have to have the user download them directly - which is fine. You'd just have to ensure to not collect ANY data from the user to ensure decent anonymity. I really like the idea of mobile Casinocoin games! I think that android will not be a problem but iPhone may very well be. Most crypto apps that included any trading from or to real currency have been removed from the apple store. Maybe a CSC only casino game will survive the apple approval team but we will only know for sure after we tried. That is why i focus on Antroid first. Anyway, .. i develop with phonegap/jQuery so anything i create for Android will already be 90% finished for iOS, Windows Phone and Blackberry. Privacy is no issue as for a casino game we can suffice with generating a wallet address per game session, all other user information is not necessary so playing can be totally anonymous. |
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@casinocoin
As you already know i am currently working on a mobile CSC wallet. I also started working on a mobile CSC Blackjack game but both take some time as i do this in my spare time. The blackjack game will need the mobile CSC wallet, so i will first terminate the wallet and then continue with the game.
I do not have the intention to put the game in the market myself as i am not sure about all legal issues surrounding that. For now it seems there is no need for a official casino license as that is only required for casinos that use real money but anyway, i am a developer and do not have the intentions to run a casino. I would like to profit of a casino game i build on a regular basis though and not only with a one time payment so if a percentage of the profits would be negotiable i would be interested. Any way, as already said it would take some time and i will contact you when i have something finished to show you.
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Since i am a mobile application developer i started working on a Mobile CSC Wallet. It will be crossplatform but first only available on Android. Next will be iPhone, Windows Phone and Blackberry. I have choosen to make a hybrid version which means that the actual wallet and transactions take place on the server while the app will have an offline storage of the same. To be able to make transactions you will need to be online. Main reason to go for a hybrid version is compilation of wallet software per platform and downloading the initial block chain to the device, both are not necessary with a server wallet. In about 2-3 weeks i will need some testers for the Android app. You will have to sideload the app because it will not be available through google play yet, by the way not sure if there will be restrictions to get this published?? Beta testing will be conducted first with my own pool miners over at https://www.megamineros.com/CSC so if you want to be in on the first tests head your miners over there. Beta testers will also benefit from a 6 month free of charge usage of the app after we go live. For the rest there will be transaction fees on the wallet usage (as with all other online wallets and exchanges). Some first screenshots: http://www.megamineros.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/splash-screen.pnghttp://www.megamineros.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/screenshot1.pnghttp://www.megamineros.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/screenshot2.png |
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Moderators please stop users like the dedicatedpool.com and others from posting in this thread. I have my pool running as well and as soon as indicated i started to post all my pool related messages in the pool thread and NOT in this thread. Have them stop writing promotional messages on this board please to keep a level playing field.
Thank you!
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As the pool owner of https://www.megamineros.com/CSC i request all other Pool owners to stop bashing each other. We all had startup issues and problems. I was one of the first CSC pools and my servers crashed when mining went from 5 to 150 MHash in less than 24 hours and i lost most users to the other pools. I learned my lesson and i am happy now running only 15 MHash. If there really are security issues at this moment all the pool owners should know about that so they can take security measures. Even more, most pushpools these days are using TheSerapher/php-mpos software as their frontent, if there are issues with it we need to know and have them fixed in the software because that would not only affect CSC but the entire mining community! If hackers get into our network they can take the entire CSC coin down with it! Now its not an issue yet but if CSC is going to be used in online casinos we must need to have a stable coin and mining network because otherwise transactions will not be executed with the speed necessary. Mining is about finding blocks for now, but will transit to living of transaction fees in the future. If casino users will not have their transactions being processed because of mining network issues, it will be the end of CSC very fast and thus our profit as well! So please lets stand together on this! All mining pool owners should be in contact with each other in case of problems or issues (maybe we should create a mailing list for that, including the coin owners)! I already mentioned it various times in the past that Mega Mineros was the only one that secured its web access with SSL. I got ridiculed for that as well bij others but all other pools should do the same, it will cost you about $100 and a few hours of your time but installing SSL certificates is not that much work but can help a lot in keeping at least your users logins safe! No guarantee but all small things help. If others now of steps that will improve security i would like to know as well! The chain is as strong as the weakest link! That counts for both security measures as the entire CSC mining network and difficulty as well. We need to stand together if we want to make this a success. Kind Regards, Andre |
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As the pool owner of https://www.megamineros.com/CSC i request all other Pool owners to stop bashing each other. We all had startup issues and problems. I was one of the first CSC pools and my servers crashed when mining went from 5 to 150 MHash in less than 24 hours and i lost most users to the other pools. I learned my lesson and i am happy now running only 15 MHash. If there really are security issues at this moment all the pool owners should know about that so they can take security measures. Even more, most pushpools these days are using TheSerapher/php-mpos software as their frontent, if there are issues with it we need to know and have them fixed in the software because that would not only affect CSC but the entire mining community! If hackers get into our network they can take the entire CSC coin down with it! Now its not an issue yet but if CSC is going to be used in online casinos we must need to have a stable coin and mining network because otherwise transactions will not be executed with the speed necessary. Mining is about finding blocks for now, but will transit to living of transaction fees in the future. If casino users will not have their transactions being processed because of mining network issues, it will be the end of CSC very fast and thus our profit as well! So please lets stand together on this! All mining pool owners should be in contact with each other in case of problems or issues (maybe we should create a mailing list for that, including the coin owners)! I already mentioned it various times in the past that Mega Mineros was the only one that secured its web access with SSL. I got ridiculed for that as well bij others but all other pools should do the same, it will cost you about $100 and a few hours of your time but installing SSL certificates is not that much work but can help a lot in keeping at least your users logins safe! No guarantee but all small things help. If others now of steps that will improve security i would like to know as well! The chain is as strong as the weakest link! That counts for both security measures as the entire CSC mining network and difficulty as well. We need to stand together if we want to make this a success. Kind Regards, Andre PS: I also crossposted this on the main CSC forum, sorry for that but i felt this needed more attention |
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Have you seen https://www.casinowebscripts.com/ seems cheaper than the swiss one. Not looked into it very much. To benefit the CSC itself a casino should be based only on the CSC and not support other coins. Only then will the amount of CSC transactions rise. |
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Mejor minar en otros monedas, el BTC es muy dificil sin ASIC. Tengo un pool de CasinoCoin (CSC) que se puede cambiar en Cryptsy por BTC. Se puede minar bastante CSC en un dia. El pool se encuentra en [url]https://www.megamineros.com/CSC[\url]
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Hemos bajado a 1% PPLNS, tambien ahora tenemos Vardiff activado y un moneda de bonus para el que encuentra el bloque. El CasinoCoin siempre esta alto en la lista de http://www.coinwarz.com/cryptocurrency y cuando se va utilizar este moneda en los casinos el valor sube! Vale la pena minar este moneda! |
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