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1261  Economy / Securities / Re: [Investment fund] Gamma Bitcoin Fund on: August 03, 2012, 08:15:14 PM
hey guys,
I have decided that I am going to go to the London Bitcoin Conference Cheesy
So if anyone want to meet me face to face, and talk Bitcoin, investments and much more then go to the conference Smiley
//DeaDTerra
1262  Economy / Securities / Re: [GLBSE] Gamma Insured Pirate Pass Through on: August 03, 2012, 07:12:03 PM
The following contract has been signed by the two parties involved Smiley
Imsaguy also has to notify me if INAU has requested a cancel of the Deposit, to make sure that we have enough backing for the bonds. Also if ImsaGuy defaults then INAU is still responsible for the backing and insurance.

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This contract is a loan provided by ineededausername to imsaguy.

(1) Addresses

ineededausername - 112N78zVYPairAzsBZgejEaob7gE8CenW7
imsaguy - 1CntCXtyq2kFiYpFwpua2k2XaKdHffLz2A

(2) Terms

3750 BTC was provided to imsaguy's designated address on August 2, 2012.  In return, imsaguy shall pay 9% interest on every 2nd day of a month to ineededausername's designated address.  The principal will be returned if one of the following happens:

  (a) imsaguy, having provided 2 weeks' notice, requests that the loan be terminated on the 2nd of some month.
  (b) ineededausername, having provided 2 weeks' notice, requests that the loan be terminated on the 2nd of some month.

(3) Collateralization

This debt shall be used as collateral for DeaDTerra's GIPPT (Insured Pirate Passthrough) bond.  In case ineededausername defaults on that debt, imsaguy must pay as much principal and interest (up to the current principal and interest due) as necessary back to the holders of GIPPT bonds. 
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1263  Economy / Securities / Re: [GLBSE] Gamma Insured Pirate Pass Through on: August 03, 2012, 07:04:25 PM
No this will not be the case please read the google document provided for details Smiley
Imsaguy, will hold INeedAuserNames backings, and in the case where pirate defaults he will transfer them to me Smiley.
They will be making interest rate and there's of course a chance of a default, in this case the debt for the insurance still lies with INeedAUserName.
If both ImsaGuy and INeedAUserName defaults then, I will pay out my 5% and we will shut down (this is a VERY unlikely scenario, I highly doubt this will happen. It would take a three fold default for this scenario to happen)

Imsaguy makes his profits mostly from mining, which is why we chose him Smiley

I'd just like to confirm this.  Tonight, INAU and I executed a GPG contract that effectively bought out all EIEIO.A holdings.  Those coins can be recalled from EIEIO on a two week notice.  It gives me latitude to interact directly with DeaDTerra should INAU go missing in action.
Thank you for the confirmation Smiley
Now I just need INAU to get his ass onto the forums and confirm the third part xD
//DeaDTerra

Just got some shares, thanks Smiley
Do you have any news on INAU? I would love to have a confirmation from him if possible.
I've PM'd him, but he isn't responding Sad

Thank you very much in advance!
Okay great!
I am talking to him on skype atm, I will get him to post a confirmation here Smiley
//DeaDTerra
1264  Economy / Securities / Re: [Investment fund] Gamma Bitcoin Fund on: August 03, 2012, 06:30:01 PM
I will keep doing my best with what I have.
//DeaDTerra

That's what it all comes down to in the end.

You're the guy we come looking for with pitchforks and battle axes when things go wrong whose judgement we're banking on.

 Wink

My vote: Whatever you think gives us the most return with the best risk management strategy.

Okay Smiley
Good to know you guys have faith in me xD, I hope I live up to it.
//DeaDTerra
1265  Economy / Securities / Re: [GLBSE] Gamma Insured Pirate Pass Through on: August 03, 2012, 05:24:49 PM
Some errors with GLBSE has delayed the IPO slightly Smiley
The shares should be up for sale in a couple of minutes.
//DeaDTerra


Hahhaha kind of xD
Anyways now the bonds have been sold Smiley
I also setup a small ask wall at 500 bonds, I will refresh this walll when needed.
2500 bonds left for grabs
//DeaDTerra
1266  Economy / Securities / Re: [Investment fund] Gamma Bitcoin Fund on: August 03, 2012, 05:23:44 PM
As long as the risk is managed smartly, I support whatever decisions you make.
It's a weighed risk Smiley
//DeaDTerra
1267  Economy / Securities / Re: [Investment fund] Gamma Bitcoin Fund on: August 03, 2012, 05:18:06 PM
Okay so this is the idea for now Smiley
I will exchange our loan with INAU (same terms as GIPPT) for GIPPT shares, it's exactly the same risk and reward as the bonds.
So I will buy 1000 of them (same amount as we had in loans previously), then I will place the rest of our liquid capital into trading bots and deposits Smiley
I am currently also working on liquidating some of our GLBSE assets, so hopefully our GLBSE exposure should go down by a couple of hundred BTC soon.
//DeaDTerra
1268  Economy / Securities / Re: [GLBSE] Gamma Insured Pirate Pass Through on: August 03, 2012, 05:09:04 PM
Some errors with GLBSE has delayed the IPO slightly Smiley
The shares should be up for sale in a couple of minutes.
//DeaDTerra
1269  Economy / Securities / Re: [GLBSE] Gamma Insured Pirate Pass Through on: August 03, 2012, 04:34:51 PM
The 5000 shares have now been issued, they will be up for sale in 25 minutes!
Make sure to place your bids Smiley
//DeaDTerra
1270  Economy / Securities / Re: [Investment fund] Gamma Bitcoin Fund on: August 03, 2012, 04:23:31 PM

Proposal #1:    ...invest 300 BTC into GIPPT...

Proposal #2:    ...3-5% exposure to pirate...

//DeaDTerra

Proposal #1:   I vote YES  (It's something you have your thumb on, and control to a large extent)

Proposal #2:   I vote NO  ( I feel it's not why I find the Gamma fund useful. You're giving us analysis & diversity, but most importantly: (a) access to equity we wouldn't have access to as individual investors, and (b) some freedom from complete exposure to GLBSE as a point of failure (via intelligent diversity)

If I wanted to invest directly in Pirate, I'd use Bitcoinmax and regulate my overall percent exposure that way.


After seeing those points I agree,
YES to GIPPT
NO to uninsured pirate.
Okay maybe I should explain my path of thought Smiley
The constant price increase makes people avoid buying shares on GLBSE, as buying shares on GLBSE becomes like kind of a shorting. When the USD price increases the GLBSE turns bearish as mentioned previously. I won't go in to the details but anyone that has observed the GLBSE market knows this. When the Bitcoin price increase the GLBSE share prices decrease. No in a 1:1 ratio but still enough for GBF to feel the downward trend of the share prices.

This is fine for anyone that want to gain USD as the ratio is not 1:1, you still gain net value in USD. But for us BTC savers, it's bad as the share prices lose value in BTC. This leads to a hill I have to climb every time the price increases, as our portfolio value decreases. I have tried liquidating but as mentioned previously due to the bearish market and out big investments (we are huge compared to the average trader on GLBSE), liquidating is hard and slow.

Hence I want to move into stable bonds/deposits which are not effected by the market. Most of these are somehow connected to pirate, unfortunately and to counter act the dropping GLBSE market, I was thinking if we invest a couple of percent then we can counter act the lose of portfolio value.

But it's up to you guys Smiley

I will keep doing my best with what I have.
//DeaDTerra
1271  Economy / Securities / Re: [Investment fund] Gamma Bitcoin Fund on: August 03, 2012, 03:58:09 PM
Hey guys!
I want your opinion on two points, the first is to invest 300 BTC into GIPPT, as it's run by me it's a conflict of interest and hence I do not feel comfortable making this decision on my own. If you guys agree then I will put 300 BTC into Gippt if not, well then I won't Smiley
The second point is, with the recent release of Pictures of pirate as well as some proof on concept and evidence of what he does, I want to ask the investors once again, would you be okay with a 3-5% exposure to pirate?
I personally believe that the chance of pirate being a ponzi has decreased dramatically over the last couple of weeks but it's always a risk.

Please post here or send me a pm with what your opinion on these two matters are Smiley
//DeaDTerra
1272  Economy / Securities / Re: [GLBSE] Gamma Insured Pirate Pass Through on: August 03, 2012, 03:53:04 PM
Logic question.

Supposedly, someone offers to lock up 5k in escrow and then insure 5k pirate coins with it, paying 2.5% interest to customers on them. If the same person were to just place the 5k into BS&T and take the whole interest himself, he would never have more risk, but always more profit.

I don't see why anyone would make such an offer.
INAU does this through some very smart accounting Smiley
Which makes it more profitable to do this insurance then it would be for him to directly invest in Pirate. I can not give away the details of course, but trust me I have seen the math it works out Smiley
Btw where is my micon sign of approval? I haven't gotten one yet Smiley
//DeaDTerra
1273  Economy / Securities / Re: [GLBSE] Gamma Insured Pirate Pass Through on: August 03, 2012, 10:33:06 AM
I am now verified on GLBSE Smiley
//DeaDTerra
1274  Economy / Securities / Re: [GLBSE] Gamma Insured Pirate Pass Through on: August 03, 2012, 09:46:24 AM
No this will not be the case please read the google document provided for details Smiley
Imsaguy, will hold INeedAuserNames backings, and in the case where pirate defaults he will transfer them to me Smiley.
They will be making interest rate and there's of course a chance of a default, in this case the debt for the insurance still lies with INeedAUserName.
If both ImsaGuy and INeedAUserName defaults then, I will pay out my 5% and we will shut down (this is a VERY unlikely scenario, I highly doubt this will happen. It would take a three fold default for this scenario to happen)

Imsaguy makes his profits mostly from mining, which is why we chose him Smiley

I'd just like to confirm this.  Tonight, INAU and I executed a GPG contract that effectively bought out all EIEIO.A holdings.  Those coins can be recalled from EIEIO on a two week notice.  It gives me latitude to interact directly with DeaDTerra should INAU go missing in action.
Thank you for the confirmation Smiley
Now I just need INAU to get his ass onto the forums and confirm the third part xD
//DeaDTerra
1275  Economy / Securities / Re: [GLBSE] REBATE official thread on: August 03, 2012, 09:43:49 AM
I am tired of this bullshit both as a investor and as a middle man stuck in between this shit.
I will be talking to both parties and see if we can solve this so that everyone including the investors will get happy.
I will be pushing for a buy back as this is obviously not working out...
//DeaDTerra
1276  Other / Off-topic / Re: DayZ Bitcoin group anyone? on: August 02, 2012, 10:49:16 PM
perhaps someone should make a steamgroup? I probably have time for some dayz in about a week or so, will be back then.
edit: also, one vote for Nameplates: ON, I personally like them

The only reason I don't like them is that it makes it easier to snipe because you can scan a hillside or horizon and the name will appear even if the player is behind some bushes or trees.

Quote
Where was this located?
//DeaDTerra

I actually don't know.  I don't have a map yet and I haven't been using an online one this go around.  I found a two busted ATVs atop that big mountain between Elektro and Cherno and spent the morning carelessly riding my bicycle around Cherno and Elektro looking for parts to fix one of them up (the other is still up there if you want it; the engine needs to be fixed and it needs a new tire and fuel).

After I got the one ATV working I set out to the North.  I haven't gone in a straight line.  I stopped at a couple places looking for more fuel, and I managed to find two helicopter crashes.  I've got an M1911, FN FAL, DMR, and Mk 48 Mod 0; and plenty of ammo for all of them.  I've also got lots of supplies and fuel.
Nice, I am trying to turn nameplates of but have not had any sucess yet xD
//DeaDTerra
1277  Economy / Securities / Re: (FEEDBACK WANTED) 100% Insured PPT bond (GLBSE) on: August 02, 2012, 10:04:21 PM
Some corrections as I see them,

YARR only pays 6% (not 7%) a week and I would pay 5.5%

I do not know that Pirate will default in the next few days. I will be placing 1 BTC per bond into Pirate so if he does default it is a massive loss for me. I would not only lose the 1 BTC pirate has but I would also lose the .5 BTC premium and the .5BTC of my own funds to cover. I'm clearly betting pirate will not default.

I will convert TyGrr.Bond-P to this if people have a decent amount. 3 or 4 shares, just sell and rebuy.

Pirate has said he thinks this will last 6 more months and as a Trust account I will not be at risk to have funds pushed out.

I am doing this because I do not like the other insurance options. YARR is backed by bonds and stocks and that is pretty safe but not like solid safe. We do not fully know how much the GLBSE assets will be worth if there is a pirate fail. Other people might know but how many of the bonds and loans and what not are indirectly pirate backed? Seeing the coins in the block chain is really safe IMO.

Now what DeadT is trying to market is just fail and I have talked to him about this. I do not know if he is still going to do it or not. Let us think about what is going on. He will take 100% of the coin you send him and then he will place it in escrow. That means he has 0 BTC left to send to Pirate. Also he needs to make 2.5% somehow so that escrow coins will be invested. How? Well what is the only way right now to make more than 2.5% ?  Send the coins to pirate...


That is the problem here.. When you loan out the insurance money to people who then send it to pirate you get massive defaults.

The point of insurance is that you are sure it is there to pay out when you need it.

With this you will be sure 75% is there. You will just have to trust me to get the other 25%  With the other bonds you will have questions. With DeadT he is only insuring 5% of it himself the rest is being sent to people who loan Pirate money.

It is just sillyness and honestly is why I am doing this. I'm trying to help out the BTC securities market and make it safer and more sound.

Thanks.


I am pretty sure that, it was not like that our conversation went Goat Wink I remember that you were very interested in buying a couple of thousand, but ofc that was before vegas ^^
I am going through with it Smiley, I have crunched the number and gone over it several time it works.
Why would I need to make 2.5% with the escrowed money?
Someone buys 1 bonds. That one btc is sent to pirate, another BTC is sent to ImsaGuy. The Pirate payment pays 7% and ImsaGuy pays around 1-2%. Then we pay out 2,5%. What in this calculation is impossible?
Yes I am only personally insuring 5%, the rest is insured by a well known and trustable lender called IneedAuserName Smiley. But he will not have access to the coins used as backing they will be with Imsaguy as mentioned above.

So please stop the slandering Goat it's unnecessary...
//DeaDTerra

Slander?? What is Imsaguy going to do with the borrowed funds to pay off the 2%? We all know he is well known for borrowing coins and sending them to Pirate.

My guess is, and yes its is a guess not a fact, that your insurance money will end up with Pirate.

I'm doing this because people now have an option to know where the insurance money is.

I was going to buy your bonds when I thought the insurance money was going to be stored offline or in the hands of someone I trusted.

I'm not trying to attack you and do with you the best of luck. It might end well for you anyway as I don't think Pirate will default.

Peace
Yes if you would have posted this on my asset page, or sent me a pm or such then I would have been fine with it. But posting it in your own asset to shit talk my asset so people buy yours, now that's not really nice now is it ?
Imsaguy makes a majority of his interest rate from mining, and has a low pirate exposure Smiley

Of course they do and I have been clear where they go from the start.

We will see, I have no intention of letting our insured funds reach pirate, I will keep track of them and make sure that all parties, is aware of what's expected and required of them!

Best of luck to you as well, May your investments prosper and Pirate never default xD

//DeaDTerra
1278  Other / Off-topic / Re: DayZ Bitcoin group anyone? on: August 02, 2012, 10:00:55 PM
I found a little camp with three tents, a bus, a jeep, and a van.  Sorry to the previous owners, I took the jeep.   Grin
Where was this located? Tongue
//DeaDTerra
1279  Economy / Securities / Re: (FEEDBACK WANTED) 100% Insured PPT bond (GLBSE) on: August 02, 2012, 09:53:58 PM
Some corrections as I see them,

YARR only pays 6% (not 7%) a week and I would pay 5.5%

I do not know that Pirate will default in the next few days. I will be placing 1 BTC per bond into Pirate so if he does default it is a massive loss for me. I would not only lose the 1 BTC pirate has but I would also lose the .5 BTC premium and the .5BTC of my own funds to cover. I'm clearly betting pirate will not default.

I will convert TyGrr.Bond-P to this if people have a decent amount. 3 or 4 shares, just sell and rebuy.

Pirate has said he thinks this will last 6 more months and as a Trust account I will not be at risk to have funds pushed out.

I am doing this because I do not like the other insurance options. YARR is backed by bonds and stocks and that is pretty safe but not like solid safe. We do not fully know how much the GLBSE assets will be worth if there is a pirate fail. Other people might know but how many of the bonds and loans and what not are indirectly pirate backed? Seeing the coins in the block chain is really safe IMO.

Now what DeadT is trying to market is just fail and I have talked to him about this. I do not know if he is still going to do it or not. Let us think about what is going on. He will take 100% of the coin you send him and then he will place it in escrow. That means he has 0 BTC left to send to Pirate. Also he needs to make 2.5% somehow so that escrow coins will be invested. How? Well what is the only way right now to make more than 2.5% ?  Send the coins to pirate...


That is the problem here.. When you loan out the insurance money to people who then send it to pirate you get massive defaults.

The point of insurance is that you are sure it is there to pay out when you need it.

With this you will be sure 75% is there. You will just have to trust me to get the other 25%  With the other bonds you will have questions. With DeadT he is only insuring 5% of it himself the rest is being sent to people who loan Pirate money.

It is just sillyness and honestly is why I am doing this. I'm trying to help out the BTC securities market and make it safer and more sound.

Thanks.


I am pretty sure that, it was not like that our conversation went Goat Wink I remember that you were very interested in buying a couple of thousand, but ofc that was before vegas ^^
I am going through with it Smiley, I have crunched the number and gone over it several time it works.
Why would I need to make 2.5% with the escrowed money?
Someone buys 1 bonds. That one btc is sent to pirate, another BTC is sent to ImsaGuy. The Pirate payment pays 7% and ImsaGuy pays around 1-2%. Then we pay out 2,5%. What in this calculation is impossible?
Yes I am only personally insuring 5%, the rest is insured by a well known and trustable lender called IneedAuserName Smiley. But he will not have access to the coins used as backing they will be with Imsaguy as mentioned above.

So please stop the slandering Goat it's unnecessary...
//DeaDTerra
1280  Economy / Securities / Re: [GLBSE] Gamma Insured Pirate Pass Through on: August 02, 2012, 09:49:26 PM
Waay underpriced IMO & BMC (by my calculations)

Which is why I'm buying some Cheesy
I want to offer something of value and that's beneficial for both sides. As I can't compete with interest rates we will compete in IPO price Wink
Awesome, place you bids now Cheesy

The IPO has been released on GLBSE Cheesy
https://glbse.com/ipo/179
https://glbse.com/asset/view/GIPPT
So place your bids people Cheesy!
//DeaDTerra
I'm up for bidding on some of these, but I still want details on the insurance arrangements - what's in place now?
Right now me and INAU has the agreement that I will insure 5% of the face value of the bonds and INAU will insure the other 95%. These 95% will be placed with Imsaguy (as it looks right now), which will agree to hold them as a escrow. In case where Pirate defaults then agreed amount is transfered to me, that then buys back all the bonds at 1 BTC each Smiley
I will write a exact contract and make all three parties sign it.
//DeaDTerra

Will the funds placed in escrow be in an address that will be made publicly available? If not, buyers would be right to assume that the insurance funds will be invested elsewhere. Not that it's a bad thing, but there's always a chance of default, even from more conservative investments (such as mining). The ultimate insured PPT would be where the insurance fund sitting in cold storage away from everything else, including GLBSE.
No this will not be the case please read the google document provided for details Smiley
Imsaguy, will hold INeedAuserNames backings, and in the case where pirate defaults he will transfer them to me Smiley.
They will be making interest rate and there's of course a chance of a default, in this case the debt for the insurance still lies with INeedAUserName.
If both ImsaGuy and INeedAUserName defaults then, I will pay out my 5% and we will shut down (this is a VERY unlikely scenario, I highly doubt this will happen. It would take a three fold default for this scenario to happen)

Imsaguy makes his profits mostly from mining, which is why we chose him Smiley

Indeed that would be optimal for the purchaser of the bond but unfortunately not for the issuer. Hence we have chosen something inbetween, it's not high risk or connected to pirate but it still makes a nice interest rate Smiley
//DeaDTerra

I'm concerned as well with Goats offering and this post https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=97347.msg1073433#msg1073433
This will be answered shortly Smiley
//DeadTerra

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