This type of talk has been around for a long time and I am pretty sick of it. What people and me trying to say here is that, if you want to make money as in "this is my job and income" type of money gambling, you can't. Because, the "play for a while, stop when you are ahead" will not happen in the long run because you can't stop while you are ahead, you need to keep playing to make an income.

This "you can't play against house edge and win" idea is basically not for few time tests, it is said so that nobody actually tries to get into gambling as a profession and make money. Sure go ahead and do that with poker, because that is against other humans, but it is not possible to make your living with gambling.

In that sense, you will need to do 100 million bets, or 1 billion bets, because in the end we are talking about full income from gambling meaning constantly gambling without ever having to stop. And if you don't stop, eventually you end up losing.

Being excited doesn't mean it resembles with gambling, because even watching a movie has excitement element so that doesn't mean watching movies and gambling are same.

I agree that there is an element of risk in both trading and gambling but trading is controlled by you, I mean you can buy asset today and you can sell it off tomorrow if you see the market is going unfavorable to you but in gambling you are firstly pushing your luck against a constant negative edge known as house edge and secondly you cannot make decisions, the results are generated immediately so no way you can manage your loss.

Trading in indeed based on probability but that at the same time you are the one who can analyse market and make the best trades while gambling you can't do any analysis unless it is sports betting which comes with a 15-20% house edge.

That is the right philosophy but you are doing nothing wrong if they invest under you are you just increase your trade size and make profits for them while taking away a percentage from profits for your efforts while also informing them that there is a risk involved with trading and they might also loose money so if they are fine with that then take their money and trade it is never a problem.


Being immature and doing this is fine like you study of your own and I do my own lets see who gets better marks in exam, but in life and if you are serious about trading you must always take any advice and investment you can as long as you can utilize it effectively.

Personally I do not visit any specific website or blog but what I do before depositing into a new casino is that I check their thread on bitcointalk and check if they have any negative feedbacks, if they have any of the negative feedbacks I try and find the reason because sometimes even negative DT feedback can give a wrong impression about someone like sportsbet.io still has negative feedback from DT but that is because of past issues and Zepher hasn't came back to forum.

Basically bitcointalk gives a proper assessment of any casino if you have a few basic knowledge like read their thread and find if people are complaining about them and their profile, etc.

I can't seem to be going to that Miami garage part of the website, there is no problem for me to go and bet, that is still open and I can go to basically all other places, I have surfed in the site and checked out every other place to see if there was any problems at all, and there is none, I couldn't find a single page that I couldn't go to but when it comes to Miami garage link that you provided, I can't go there and I don't know if it is a problem from my end or your end.

In any case, if you could check that out that would be great or not just could you please share the details of it here and we could read here, that way it would be much easier for us . Sorry, if this created any inconvenience for anyone, I like cash backs and I wanted to see if I could do anything like that on my sports bets as well and see the details of it.

No one is really talking about countries creating their own cryptocurrency these days. It’s like a dead topic now. Before this I was seeing news that Chinese cryptocurrency was close to getting released and a lot of people kept talking about it. They seemed to be the only country that was serious about creating a cryptocurrency, but now it’s no longer being talked about.

The only thing that is being talked about recently is Coronavirus. Other cryptocurrencies you have mentioned here, none of them are active, it seems. Will wait to see know how the Chinese crypto will turn out. I am also concerned about how much impact it may create on existing crypto space. When it will be on the positive side (in terms of growth of increasing BTC adoptions) then we can simply ignore them but if we have them in negative impact then we must analyze them in more depth so that we could take more appropriate steps to make our crypto space more stronger in terms of competing them.

You may not lose everything with just 23 rolls, there needs to be a max that we are talking about here. How about you calculate for 10? or 15? or 20? Those are very well hit the max, it all depends on what you start with of course, and if you start with under 1 dollars you are not going to hit the max that easily, but if you start off with 100 dollars you are going to hit it very quickly instead.

So, martingale could very well mean that for a long period of time you can end up winning but it is quite easy to hit 7x in a row loss for example, it happens very quickly and very commonly, so if 7x is the max, you are going to end up losing frequently, even 15x in a row loss is a bit common, not all the time of course but still it is a good chance that you can lose it all that way. So, you can calculate based on max bet allowed instead of 23x because we don't know if 23x is even possible basing on what the bet is.

I think it is more about consistency than anything else. There are tons of casinos that get attention for a while but they usually burn in flames and stop, whatever left is the ashes.

Bitvest is not like that, they never really do "huge" stuff that gets tons of attention all at once, they are not giving away tens of bitcoins all at once and so forth. But, what they do is consistent marketing that always keeps them interesting and getting attention.

So, when there are times some other place gets super amount of attention, bitvest is not really remembered at first, but all of those go away whereas bitvest stays at their own steady pace. This is why I think they get bigger and bigger with time, because they have a steady pace and that means they are going to get people to play here more and more.

This is good, and of course it’s going to help us in dealing with scam. But people still have to be careful. We can’t dictate all the scam projects, there are many of them being created everyday, more than we can count. So, you will not be able to dictate. I’m saying this based on my personal experience.

I have once seen a website that I know is a scam, and was created by the same people that owns some scam websites I’ve come across. Then I searched for the new website on Google to see if anyone has reported, but no one is talking about it. A newbie can come across it and due to there is no review on them yet, they might fall for it. So most important thing should knowing how to dictate scams.

What else should we do? If we all decide to stay indoors, for how long are we going to do that? People will eventually catch hunger and die. It’s still best that we all go back to our business and practice social distance and other maintain other rules that will help to keep us safe from the virus, like wearing our face mask and using running water to wash regularly and also avoid touching our eyes and nose , and face completely. It is not easy to stay indoors, and do you know what’s really bad about this? Even when we are staying indoors the numbers of those with the virus is not decreasing.

Yes, this is time to show our strength by breaking the spreading chain of covid19 virus. If we unite not to go out for unnecessary reasons then the chances for not getting infected will be high which will help the countries to recover from pandemic chaos as quicker as possible like how New Zealand has done and they are must be working on other things whereas most other countries are still dealing with pandemic things .

I do think that investment will be a better choice. Staking is quite good. it’s just like when you’re leaving funds in a bank as savings and they invest it on behalf of you and you then get rewards in return. In staking you’re going to be locking up your crypto assets on a particular platform and at the end of the period you will be rewarded with a particular percentage. It’s just like on crypto.com, they give 8% per annum.

Now this is what I hate about staking: what if you stake your assets and there happens to be a bear market, and then you lose more money than what the reward can cover? You see? So in this case, I will prefer to go with a normal investment that I would have access to at all times.

After lots of frustrations with POS and masternode coins, I decided to try only with freebitco.in which may 4% annual interest but on daily basis which leads to cumulative interest gaining hence it  seems risk free due to their high reputations. Other high paying opportunities are still seems too risky in my eyes.

Indeed because paying 50% profits lifetime is only valuable when the bot is doing something that is exclusive to the program and with trading almost any bot can do the same what he is trying to do so paying 50% might be the dumbest idea. Also he is new and anyone downloading such bots might very well be injecting a trojan horse into their system that will quietly send all data to the hacker.

To be very honest if he was serious about the bot then there would have been a proper thread and some insights how it works, a video maybe and a well maintained website where we can contact them because anyone can come to the forum and say anything but to take them seriously needs some backing up of they are saying by reliable sources and data.

I was laughing when I read that you are a successful trader but you still cannot figure out how to ensure whose funds are you using when trading.

Anyways I will tell you how it is done. Suppose you have 10k USD which you borrowed from them and 10k USD of your own. Now your capital is 20k and any trade you make is combined of both of yours money. For example you made a 2k trade and profited $50 then you can't say you used your own funds and pay them nothing, that is not how trading works. You need to them pay 50% fro your profits from each trade as you mentioned you have agreed for 50-50 cut for each individual.

if you really think you are professional you need to work on your basics man otherwise you might be just sort of lucky in trading and false believing that you have mastered it.

That's right and that is how the industry is so big right now because there are no legal norms involved and someone can bet any amount they want and withdraw it instantly without any KYC or anything else needed.

the market size is nearly impossible to calculate because there are people who bet enormous and even hide their names so you don't know if the same guy is making those bets or these are 2 different people making those bets.

All I can think is that when a casino allows up to 5 BTC winnings in a single bet (stake.com for instance) than the market is ginormous and beyond the limits one can imagine and there is absolutely no way to measure or even get an idea about the size of the industry.

With all due respect, I just want to share my concern; from the replies I have seen so far in this thread it does not give me a healthy view of your casino because of a few reasons basically -

1- You try to ignore people who are raising fair questions and you block users as someone said above.
2- You have been asked to proof the funds as mentioned for the dividend pool but as far as I can read no proper answer is given.

Although I like your website's layout and color scheme and everything but please try to be more polite to members since you have no history here at forum and if people are asking questions you need to answer them with dignity and pride.


Comments like this will do more harm than good for your casino. Just my opinion .

That is basically twitch as a whole, you could also play any game you want (well financially might be difficult) or you could just simply play a free game on some bad computer, but you CAN play a game, even if you are having hard time putting money together you can go to an internet cafe and play any game you want for a short period.

But to be honest most of the people that subscribe and donate has at least a bit of money to have a computer, which means they rather watch someone else than play themselves. Now the point there is not to watch them play, the point there is to be with other viewers, have a chat (usually discord for offline periods as well) and just built this community that likes same sort of stuff, so each streamer is one community in itself as well. Its not just gambling or music or anything else, ALL of twitch is like that.

I lost money, but the money I lost is a minuscule compared to what I was able to make later. I started buying bitcoin in 2014 and I wasn't serious with it back then, so I didn't invest much. The funny thing is that I still lost this little money I invested in cryptocurrency. Then I wasn't really good at it. I taught myself everything I know about bitcoin today, nobody was there to guide me through it.

I was just using an Electrum wallet and I didn't know how to withdraw the cryptocurrency which was worth $250 to my bank, so I sent it to a scammer who claimed to be an exchanger and I lost it. I decided to quit because I was angry, but came back in 2016 and started buying again, then I have understood everything that I need to know. And 2017 was a good year.

OMG. I wasn’t really ready to know this, hits hard. I don’t make use of hardware and I don’t think it’s something I am interested in making use of, maybe due to my level for now. I have been making use of other wallets and they are doing the job for me, I have always done everything possible to keep my wallets safe so that I am not going to be complaining at any time. If I’m going to buy a hardware and they will be checking it like this, then what’s the need? The government will really do anything to piss you off at anytime.

I remember when I was planning to by ASICs by 2015, I stopped that idea as packages need to clear customs checking and I may need to pay customs duties. As I was not doing financial well at those times, I dropped total mining idea if I would have tried, who knows, my package as well might have seized by customs officers for transporting some "alien" thing.

I'm sorry, your friend is saying the truth. You can't hide your identity on cryptocurrency 100%. There are just little things that can expose you. Your address is there and every transaction you're making with your address leaves that can be used to trace you ,and your IP address as well. I don't know how you can hide your IP address.

Another thing you have to know is that bitcoin was created by some researchers and they all have where they are all working now, and possibly a lot of them might be working for the government. They know everything including how they can track down anyone they want to, you can't hide forever. I no longer use bitcoin as a means to stay anonymous, I just use it because it's an easy means for transaction and also an investment for me.

Actually live betting is a completely different experience and odds can be wrong at times, I mean I have been a huge csgo fan and gamble very often and I have seen that a team who lacks behind by 5-10 score on T side are given odds of like 3.00 or so which is so deceptive, I mean the CT side of certain maps are strong and if your team has a good record on that map you can easily make a bet on the CT side and that 3.00 odds would be winning more than 50% of times.

I agree with you though soccer can be hard to implement strategies and I never understand how people make soccer picks, when I am betting soccer I usually bet under/over based on how I am feeling that day.