I also can't guarantee that bitcoin will last for hundreds of years because no one can predict it for sure, but talking about the possibility that bitcoin could reach zero is completely baseless and even if in the worst case scenario all governments ban it. Talk about zero it means bitcoin is no longer valuable and I think it's almost impossible for that to happen and I also doubt any government within the quotes "globally" would use bitcoin as legal tender because bitcoin would basically never fit into the system they.

I don't see anything worrying about bitcoin and even to think of going to zero, there are many reasons why bitcoin can defend itself from being at zero. So forget about that and let's take a look at the opportunities that are available because trying to make assumptions like this would lead to a lot of speculation that we can't prove to be true.

Give a proper argument why bitcoin will fall to zero? until now I don't see one strong reason why bitcoin will be at zero, regardless of how the government tries to spread negative things about bitcoin and what I understand from your post, it has to do with government policies that will prohibit the growth of bitcoin globally and is this the only stronger reason to say bitcoin is going back to zero?

But realistically that also doesn't happen and many governments actually allow legal bitcoin as a commodity asset that can be traded and even El Salvador has legalized bitcoin as a legal transaction tool. Therefore the chance for bitcoin to be zero is completely impossible because of the strong assumption that the government also does not do that. There are several countries that have banned bitcoin completely, both as a commodity asset and as a legal means of transaction, but so far this has not affected bitcoin in any way.

When zero assumptions are impossible then what will happen we will never know, even people's belief in bitcoin will return to zero is not the same as altcoins and shitcoins which on their journey are pumped, dumped and die.

That means you have been on forum for quite a long time and should have had a lot of experience or could say that by now the standard of daily trading or long term investing has brought you to a conclusion.

From your whole story I don't think you are suitable for day trading because for day trading you need sharp analysis to read market movements and even though people can learn to know how. But you have been on the forum for almost two years and should have quite a bit of trading experience, so I conclude that you are better suited to be involved in a long term investment in bitcoin.

For daily trading in my opinion teknis analysis and fundamental analysis are important so that you can reduce the risk impact of the trades you run. When you place the standard of long term investing an understanding of technical analysis is not that important because all you need is to be calm when the market goes into a sharp downturn especially the investment you are making in bitcoin.

The fiat system also suffers from a greater degree of weakness and almost all aspects related to investing and money have their degree of weakness. So the explanation must be that there are different levels of weakness in bitcoin or in the fiat system, but of all the weaknesses that exist, we can choose which one has a much better impact. I'm sure why bitcoin can get more trust now because of the concept of decentralization and being able to maintain the value of the investment assets we invest.

From all your explanations above, but in the end at points 4-5 you are also indirectly praising bitcoin, so the point by point you made is actually not related to one another. Bitcoin has reached the stage of great adoption to date and the reason is clear that what is offered by bitcoin is far more rational in the way that many people feel at the moment, so people choose bitcoin as one of the options that can be used to make a profit.

Regardless of how bitcoin can generate huge profits if done in the right way, bitcoin's volatility can also result in people losing money when investing. Therefore it is important to understand how to invest properly and if they do not understand market psychology and panic when bitcoin experiences a sharp decline, then therein lies the panic that will bring people to the loss stage.

Tetapi menurut saya dalam kasus yang terjadi di bali terhadap TS bukan karena dia tidak mengetahui hukum, melainkan karena melihat potensi keuntungan yang di dapatkan jauh lebih besar menggunakan pembayaran dengan crypto karena mungkin turis lebih suka cara praktis dalam melakukan transaksi. Jika ingin terlihat viral dengan konsekuensi yang di dapatkan membahayakan diri dan akan berurusan dengan hukum itu artinya orang tersebut bodoh, apalagi mereka tau hukumnya namun bertingkah seperti orang bodoh seolah-olah tidak tau apa-apa.

Kalau menurut saya sih om kebanyakan orang kita Indonesia tau bahwa crypto bukanlah alat pembayaran yang sah, sehingga menggunakan cara ini dalam bertransaksi akan menuai masalah, tetapi karena melihat peluang dalam menghasilkan keuntungan jauh lebih besar jika menggunakan pembayaran menggunakan crypto, maka sadar atau tidak mereka akan mencoba melakukan dengan hati-hati, namun naas bagi TS yang tertangkap karena mungkin terlalu terbuka dan saya yakin ada banyak orang lain di bali menggunakan cara ini.

The key is that we must continue to evaluate every decision we have made in the past and losing a lot of assets when we cannot make a profit is the way to regret it and most importantly not to get discouraged and keep trying again. There are many people who have lost the opportunity to profit in crypto, both because of mistakes made and because the knowledge about the assets they have is still very lacking to understand. But taking a lot of risk in altcoins must be a big consideration so that we don't experience the same loss.

To be honest with the potential that exists bitcoin is a much wiser choice there and can guarantee the value of losses that we can avoid, rather than looking at opportunities in altcoins which are quite speculative and difficult to predict, relying on hype in altcoins is not profitable because we never know how the predictions we make will lead to wrong decisions, a stronger analysis is needed before making decisions and considering bitcoin is much wiser in my view.

In other words you are trying to hold bitcoins as an investment step that you are doing, but the problem is you lack the money to try to enter the market to collect bitcoins and almost a lot of people are having this kind of problem, not just you and even myself the same. But you don't need to worry because there are ways and approaches that can be chosen through DCA, this potential can provide space for anyone to collect bitcoins and we are only required to consistently take this approach on a regular basis to make it easier for us to collect.

So even though the limited money we have does not create obstacles when we plan to invest in bitcoin and that is why bitcoin is far superior and can maintain the value of the money we have compared to choosing other investment systems. Moreover limited money is a big factor for some people like us, but there is still a way if we want to do it do and dare to take a little risk in it.

There is always no more accurate certainty regarding this matter and even bitcoin is running a little slowly and always getting repeated corrections for now and it is expected that the bull run will be something to look forward to, but there is always no certainty for this prediction

If we understand bitcoin why do we have to wait for news like this to make a purchase, even though we usually rely on cycles to see bitcoin growth and it is almost certain that the cycle is almost approaching for the next period, so what's the point of deciding to buy bitcoin because of news like this or not? DCA can be adjusted according to the capital we have, so the buying factor is not only seen from the FUD news that appears, because actually we only rely on predictions to see opportunities and to what extent we are able to take advantage of conditions to make profits from any conditions.

There is no need to depend on an event influenced by FUD news to make purchases and if at any time you can collect bitcoins through the DCA method, it's just that you can save money on large purchases when FUD occurs and you can offset DCA purchases as one other regular way.

And these limits will also be balanced with your ability to generate profits, there is no certainty about 80% or 100% because we cannot measure these numbers with certainty.

Not only knowledge that needs to be increased but capital is also an important aspect that can bring you any kind of income. Income limits cannot be measured using a systematic formula because what plays a role is capital readiness and logically it will not happen the same for one person to another.

If you know more without the power of capital to help, it will also not bring you double your income. The importance of balancing knowledge and capital that we have because these two things are important factors as a driver, there is nothing we can do when money is not a support and even to carry out investments and businesses also really need money.

Even though it looks interesting and the creative idea that Lugano is doing will never happen in our country, because the only legal transaction tool that is recognized by the state is fiat currency. This week there is one young person who accepts payments using crypto has to deal with the police and the person concerned has also been detained at the police station. It's a very surprising phenomenon that our country is not playing around in cracking down on bans and it's just one person trying to accept bitcoin as a means of transaction and imagine if most do that?

Lugano is a city in Switzerland and mostly accepts means of payment using bitcoins, but actually in that city not only accepts bitcoins as legal tender but other cryptos can also be used to a large extent. So it's no wonder that what they are doing is an important aspect of providing an effective service and this has been going on since 2022, this program is also believed to have a positive impact on business growth there.

Every active day trader is required to have a special view of risk management knowledge and this does not only apply to day traders, even all trading activities really need risk management to recognize the impact of trading. Because this speaks of the conditions in dealing with trades that don't work according to certain conditions.

This advice is more suitable for beginners who are new to trading because for people who have long been associated with trading, the risk reward will be in accordance with the capital we place.

What is certain is that trading will not always generate profits, even though people are good at analyzing market conditions and still sometimes they get a loss, but the difference between beginner activities and experienced people. For example, for those who experience losing trades and they will try to increase the next trade to cover the previous loss, such is the activity of those who are experienced in dealing with trade and surely they have been taught by experience to achieve this readiness.

It happens in almost several poor countries and including where I live, bitcoin activity in our area is legal as a commodity asset and so far the growth of bitcoin is increasing the adoption that is happening. But for rural areas bitcoin is still considered a new thing, for some people who are not familiar with the internet. Internet network limitations are a little slower in spreading knowledge about bitcoin to the public and this is what I saw a few years ago, especially in my area. Fortunately for now many people under the age of 40 are more familiar with bitcoin and even more people are already involved in investing as much as they can afford.

Does your country also restrict bitcoin as a commodity asset? because if the activity of payment transactions is prohibited there is still a possibility of being legal as a commodity asset, exactly what happened in my country and so far bitcoin's growth in terms of adoption has grown so fast since the previous two years.

Bicara rendah atau tidaknya edukasi terhadap bitcoin tergantung pada negara mana yang anda maksud, mungkin sebagian negara edukasi tentang bitcoin masih sedikit lebih rendah dibandingkan dengan negara lain yang telah mencapai tahap lebih maju, kepercayaan terhadap emas seperti yang saya sampaikan sebelumnya karena memiliki pandangan yang berbeda, bahwa dulu emas pernah berjaya sebelum mata uang fiat diperkenalkan dan potensi jika PD III terjadi orang akan kembali beralih kepada sistem lama, tetapi harus digaris bawahi itu hanya sebatas asumsi yang tidak ada dasar yang mampu dibuktikan.

Kita berharap gitu sih Om dan mudah-mudahan PD III tidak akan pernah terjadi karena ada banyak dampak yang akan terjadi kepada dunia maupun negara manapun jika itu terjadi, apalagi sejarah PD I dan PD II telah menyisakan luka besar terhadap perjalanan sejarah dunia.

Permasalahannya adalah masyarakat terlalu mempercayai bot meskipun kegiatan trading juga membutuhkan keterampilan individu untuk mengenali kondisi, namun karena pemahaman bot dapat melakukan sesuatu dengan lebih mudah maka masyarakat lebih memilih untuk menggunakan robot buatan manusia dibandingkan mengandalkan keterampilan sendiri dalam melakukan trading manual.

Kelemahan ini sering diabaikan oleh para pengguna robot trading, seperti yang Anda katakan dan saya rasa pembahasannya sudah kita bahas di beberapa tempat sebelumnya. Mengandalkan robot trading bukanlah masalah selama kita bisa memahami kondisi tertentu yang memiliki kelemahan di dalamnya. Saya pribadi lebih memilih trading manual untuk saat ini dan belum pernah mencoba trading menggunakan robot, karena selama ini saya masih cukup nyaman mengandalkan pengetahuan saya sendiri untuk aktivitas trading manual.

Mungkin belum naas aja om dan memang Undang-Undang Nomor 7 Tahun 2011 tentang Mata Uang jelas menyebutkan bahwa selain rupiah kita tidak diperbolehkan menjadi alat transaksi, beberapa kasus yang mungkin pernah om alami dan lihat belum tercium oleh pihak penegak hukum dan bisa saja mereka lolos dari pantauan karena alasan tertentu. Bali menjadi salah satu pusat destinasi bagi wisatawan, tidak hanya turis bahkan orang Indonesia sendiri seperti arti gemar liburan kesana karena memang menyimpan keindahan alam laut yang luar biasa dan mungkin pemerintah dapat membuat regulasi khusus disana mengenai hal ini dan saya juga melihat turis di sana terlalu bebas yang seakan-akan di biarkan tanpa pengawalan.

Kasus TS menjadi sebuah peringatan keras bagi siapapun yang terlibat diluar ketentuan hukum karena di negara kita crypto hanya di perbolehkan sebagai aset komoditas, sehingga bertindak di luar kewajaran akan membuat kita sendiri yang menerima resikonya, oleh sebab itu kita harus hati-hati dengan aturan yang berlaku.

This is a much more reasonable reason and does not use the excuse of leaving a job to invest in bitcoin. Everyone must have a fed up point in his work and anyone must have felt it, but when we try to enjoy and try to take a few days off to relax on any mountain in the sea it will be much better. This method can have a positive effect on people who get bored at work and vacation is one way to make us a little more relaxed to get rid of boredom.

The purpose of investing is one way to make profits and the volatility of bitcoin is one of the definite reactions that will arise from the investments we make and imagine how the lives of people who stop working and then choose the way to invest. Moreover, the condition of income and expenses is no longer stable because it stops working, in the end the investment made in bitcoin will be cut in half as a fulfillment of daily life and under certain conditions the investment capital runs out and is not left because other sources of income are not owned.

The problem is at the accuracy stage and if you intend to take out a loan to make an investment, in my opinion this is not correct and will instead put you in new trouble. You have the opportunity in a safe way to collect bitcoins through DCA. Forcing yourself to take out a loan for investment will put you at risk of volatility and if in that condition you have no other plan to cover the monthly cost of the loan then that's where the first problems will arise.

The risk of borrowing and the risk of volatility in bitcoin is not worth the decision taken in a loan, unless we have other income as a crutch under certain conditions, sometimes people force things beyond their means, invest basically want to get profit and take opportunities in the wrong way will lead to problem. How many people end up with problems precisely because life doesn't work as it should, preparing a better source of financial income is indeed a must and very important, but this concept also does not ignore the ability and ability to deal with problems that occur

If bitcoin is considered one of the best investments and can make our finances better in the long term then DCA is one strategy that can be done, besides there is no risk, this pattern can also be adjusted according to the amount of money we have. Investments in banking will not progress in the long term because the value of money that we have does not develop and vice versa if bitcoin investment is done correctly for the long term it will definitely generate large profits.

For long term investment I don't think you need a partner as an investment because bitcoin is far more reliable to maintain the financial value that we have. Unless we expect short-term gains by implementing the strategy in other potential coins, but it's exactly the nature of what you say and we have to see one coin that can maintain the value of the capital we spend. I agree with your pattern where you use USDT to maintain financial flows before buying bitcoin to invest in the long term, compared to buying other coins which are more risky to maintain financial stability.

At some point we must be able to maximize finances as the last step to buy bitcoin as the best investment we want, while the pattern and strategy is up to how to maximize and most importantly the closest source for investments made as a pair must match. Taking too much risk in other investments will stop us from buying bitcoins when the price is good in the market because the reserve capital has already been used in other coins.

To run a capital business is a must, while replacement of production machines and marketing strategies are included in maintenance costs and other costs outside of the initial capital when you build a business, these are costs that have been prepared in advance as an effort to promote and maintain machine needs. OP talked about patterns of increasing profits in business by using certain methods and strategies, so that buyers feel at home and return to shopping because of the good service and bonuses provided.

Another way to take advantage of promotion through social media and influencers, this method is believed to be very useful at this time where influencers have a big influence on social media because they have quite a lot of followers on all their social media. Utilizing sales platforms on social media is also quite useful, where buyers don't have to come directly to the store and don't spend time, so they can shop using only their smartphones at home and this is also an effective idea.

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