It will but it may not occur this year but I have a strong feeling that it will happen next year. If all fails then maybe 2025 is surely be the date for it. There is no way that we can be like this forever because people will soon be bore and leave this market.

It still can happen in a large scale because I expect a wider adoption soon and then those who are supposed to be newbies have now gained a lot of experience to do better. Don't mind the guy above as he is only joking when he said the market is now dead. He is not a newbie anymore and he also doesn't look like he is a BTC hater like those guys who promote BSV where they already got a red trust for discrediting bitcoin.

The good thing you could do with this is not to put all your money into a single thing. If you do that then you are right that it will not be recovered and you will lose all your money, but if you do not do that and instead you put like 5% of your money into a single thing then the worst case would be losing 5% of your portfolio, the other 95% will be safe.

The exception being bitcoin because investing into bitcoin is a good way of making money when bull run comes, but for all the other defi type of stuff, you should have bunch of diversification so that you wouldn't lose all your money in a single day. That's my understanding though, maybe it won't work that well.

I think the reason why is because coins like BTC are way too heavy but new coins are still small and can be easy to manipulate, that is why we see an extreme volatility on them but we must be careful as this is also risky.

The price can dump and then it may not recover anymore so better if we can just wait for the top coins to return to their normal volatile state again and they are the ones that we should use for short term trading. I think that can also happen once we end this bear. This won't take long anymore because we are already in this new year and then we are getting closer to the halving event. Just have some patience.

Excessive speculations can be a waste of time since the price can still move as opposed to what we are speculating but you can not go wrong with buying and holding a Bitcoin. The price can fall but it will always bounce back so you still earn no matter what.

If there is only one thing that I can't agree with you for now then that is my prediction about this January is negative because the price of BTC is still the same. You know when it is positive if it started the first week even with some minor recoveries but no that didn't happen. Reaching $17k isn't that hard because it's only $1k away from the current price but $20k rather although it is possible since we already get there before.

What happening outside has nothing to do with BTC. BTC do also have its own separate world but even if it's also gloomy here, this shouldn't be reason for us to lose hope. If you are a new comer here then you will think you miss a great opportunity but you shouldn't think like that. This bear is actually your opportunity or your stepping stone to become a millionaire in the near future. The success of BTC can also depend on us.

If we will only take care of our BTC, like we never sold it if it's not the proper time and we will only buy more then BTC will thank us one day. Banks can only manage their own money or the fiat but not BTC. It's decentralized so don't worry about it.

Honestly premier league is looking more and more entertaining, aside from Liverpool of course and I know we have fans of LFC here, and that is so sad to see you guys like this now, but I know that there is a good chance we are going to end up with something that will be amazing for all of you guys eventually when you recover.

You need to see the dark before you could appreciate the light, and I know you have a past dark but been very white lately, gonna see the light again soon I hope. I feel like the best thing right now is to not lose hope for the direction of the club, and maybe next year you will be a lot better and can recover from this situation.

That is the hope, there is no guarantee about it though and that means we are talking about something that is only an expectation and nothing else which is why it's not a guaranteed thing. I believe that we should not be expecting it to go up just because bitcoin went up, and yes that is what should happen if BFG is as good as we think it is but what if it isn't? In that case we are not going to see it be as high as bitcoin growing and that would be something terrible for all of us.

I am getting ready for either option, it's not my all investment so if it goes up then I would be happy but if it doesn't go up like bitcoin does, then I would not be too upset neither.

Thunders having their fourth consecutive win against leaders Scorchers which give them second spot in league table after winning the toss Scorchers elect to bat which was good decision, but early wickets give them setback even captain Ashton Turner play an impressive inning which give them 142 runs on board sadly no other batsman able to give him good support with good bowling from Chris Green and Nathan McAndrew helps Thunders for having decent target.
 
While chasing Thunders also lost quick wickets of Hales and Rossouw as Jhye Richardson give early break through to his team but this all was not helpful as Oliver Davies and Alex Ross play hammering inning which helps them for reaching target at the end of 17th over.

I think being reliable hasn't to do with volatility. For me, being reliable can mean that we can easily need the money when we need it and that is something Bitcoin can offer but not in the banks because often times they can lock up/ freeze our accounts or do some other alibi's when we are about to withdraw money.

Risk is everywhere or on anything. Yes BTC is is risky due to its volatile state but the point is, its value can recover and it can even rise more. Banks or banks money (fiat) are much stable but there are inflations which can lessen the value of our fiat money. This can only be an added risk to what I said earlier about banks.

A ban will surely affect bitcoin's value. It will go down, especially if the ban happened on a country where the Bitcoin users are high. There are countries that have banned BTC before and some of these countries didn't change their decisions yet or have plans to unban BTC anytime soon. Imagine if many countries follow it? I think that is threatening.

We always thought that BTC is the future of money but that won't happen anymore. Regulations are known to be a bad thing for currency which are decentralized like bitcoin but if ever the government demand this in exchange of allowing bitcoin in their country then I think people will just agree on it.

Diversifying can be helpful. It works like a backup in case our trading fails because there are no perfect trades. Pro traders know this already due to the experience they have. Your friend is single. That's great but maybe you can advice him to diversify so that he won't lose that much. It's always better to have more money in hand. He may not be needing it now but he will regret it one day or by the time he already have his own family because he didn't save up and play carefully with his trades.

@OP it's fine if you think that way. Maybe it's time for you to stop trading and find other alternatives which will perfectly fit better for you. Trading isn't just for all.

Discounts were supposed to be a good thing because that simply means you will be getting the item for a cheap price, so why will they fear it? If there are in fear right now then they can be the hodlers who are inexperienced. This bear right here, can be their first long time bear so they are worried and thinks that the market won't recover anymore. I hope they can still be able to control their selves as this bear shouldn't take too long anymore.

I know that the bull run is just around the corner. That is right, we shouldn't be focusing on something that is terrible because that is not beneficial to us but if there is something that we should focus on, then that is to buy more coins and continue hodling because we know that we will be rich from this one day.

That is what exactly I do, I do 50% unfortunately and that was a wrong move on my behalf, loaded up around 30-35k range myself and got some more at 22-24k range as well, so I am not doing amazing for the recent ones but I got some from 2018 so it is doing not bad at all and I am fine about it.

But at the end of the day, it is not going to be something huge for me until we have another ATH and I am not checking any trading indicators or anything like that, it doesn't matter to me at all because it is not going to be that much of a big thing at all. It will be as decent as it gets and as normal as it gets and why would I need indicators for long term that will result like that?

For the most of us, cryptos are more than just an alternative but they treat it as a replacement to the fiat money especially Bitcoin since it was the most decentralized crypto up to this date. We can also call it as a competitor. It was the banks actually who termed it because they see it as threat to their business.

This is also the reason why cryptos are banned by them or they request it to the government to ban it in their whole nation. The recent drama in crypto doesn't made people think if they will continue to use it or not but it only teach them a lesson to not fully trust centralized platforms because they aren't totally in control of their money.

This isn't bad for the starters or in the beginning of 2023 but in the second and so on quarters I expect that there will be another set of prices that will take effect in bitcoin e.g $30k- $40k for the 2nd, $40k to $50k for the 3rd and lastly $50k to $60k for the 4th quarter. 2024 should be the year for $100k and onwards because this is also the year where BTC is said to go on a halving.

A $4k jump (from $16k to $20k) is not what you call a bull run but that must only be a normal recovery. The best indication to know if there is now a bull run is when the price starts to rise above $50k since this price is already considered to be high even though the last ATH was at $69k.

I think a big investor can buy at any time because they have the capital (bigger amounts) and then they also have the patience to HODL for so long. They are way too serious about investing but for the small investors. They usually have a limited budget so to make the most out of it, they are waiting for a good times like this (bear market). About the indications if the big investors have already entered or not.

You will notice that by looking on exchanges if there are big orders and also in the price if there is a sudden increase. This isn't the first bear market and this won't also be the last however the next one might take a long time to happen so we should take advantage of this one here.

I think it's inappropriate to call it nonsense because there might be people who are good at doing this or find it beneficial but if we are a starter, especially in crypto trading then we shouldn't jump on these things easily because it can do more harm than good.

The minimum amount to be able to do this is slightly higher but I think I know why. That is because you will still need to pay something for the platform that conducts this service. They are the ones who can earn a guaranteed profits and not the traders. So, you are right that if we have some knowledge in trading, it will be better if we can just be independent as it's more efficient to do than relying on these things.

This is true. Like for example when we work out (go to the gym). We shouldn't rush to see the results because it won't just come out after a week or two but it takes several months. This why many got bored and quit on what they are doing because they lack of patience. Same with cryptos.

It's not something that can make us a millionaire overnight but it can take years or even decades because the adoption is not at its highest yet. Until now there are still lots of countries or people who are not yet on them but they will soon discover and get involved with it. It might be true that patience is a gift but if you are not blessed to be given by it then it is still/also possible to learn it.

Girona vs Rayo Vallecano if we check all stats then surely here visitors looking better and their record is also good against Girona but as home side is also improving their performance things looking at level which is surely good for the first game and with the home advantage they can do better performance because Girona having not good start of this season but now having improved with now they are in middle of the league table which is also good for them now here if they are able to take points surely going to have impact on their confidence as well because after promotion now they are doing good job which will help them for staying into La Liga for another season which will increase their value and finances as well.

Not all NFTs are scams. There are still legit NFTs out there that we can invest in but if I am an art lover I think I will just buy the art which I can see and touch physically and not NFTs which are only digital. I can't see them right away but I still need to open a wallet or a website which I found a hassle.

A lot of NFTs lost so much volume but that is expected already because people are only driven by the hype in recent times but most of them have finally woken up from the truth that there are no real benefits from buying and holding an NFT. They can in fact lose money in the process because the demand for NFTs will only get lesser from time to time.