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12681  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Did gambling get you into Bitcoin or did Bitcoin get you into gambling? on: June 27, 2016, 11:28:34 AM
I am just curios how it started for you....

Did gambling get you into Bitcoin? Or did Bitcoin get you into gambling?

I got into gambling because of bitcoin.
I have tried some gambling games like poker before bitcoin. I have played them with my friends and with actual cards and things like that but I have never played them for money before bitcoin.
and ever since I have started using bitcoin I have also started gambling and I even started to learn a lot of new games and bet on many new games after it.
You can really enjoy gambling with the help of bitcoins because there are a lot of games in the community to choose from, you don't need to go to the actual casino just to play as even at the comfort of your own home it would be easy for you to play.
12682  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2016/17 NBA Off-Season on: June 27, 2016, 11:24:41 AM
After Kyrie Irving and Harrison Barnes finally make their final decision, 12 man roster of TEAM USA are now completed.

Kevin Durant - Oklahoma City Thunders
DeMarcus Cousins - Sacramento Kings
Draymond Green - Golden State Warriors
Klay Thompson - Golden State Warriors
Paul George - Indiana Pacers
Kyle Lowery - Toronto Raptors
DeMar DeRozan - Toronto Raptors
Carmelo Anthony - New York Knicks
Jimmy Butler - Chicago Bulls
DeAndre Jordan - Los Angeles Lakers
Kyrie Irving - Cleveland Cavaliers
Harrison Barnes - Golden State Warriors

Whew still a powerhouse even without LBJ, Steph Curry, R. Westbrook, K. Leonard and James Harden who choose not to play. Look like another Gold team again.
USA will always be a powerhouse having a pure nba player and almost all of them are superstar came from diff franchise but playing in china would be still a tough for them(if you know what i mean kabayan).
Nice roster, honestly that team are so good and in my opinion even all the best rookies to play for USA would still give them the best chance to win championship, as long as they have the good coach to for the game they are already a champion.
12683  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is their any safe methods to gamble? on: June 27, 2016, 11:20:05 AM
bet low... slow profit but low risk

Still not possible to remain safe.
Even constant losses will get you nowhere. I have played dice with 1.01x and lost many times, this shows that luck plays the most important part in gambling.
Yeah, luck will always be the most important you have in gambling. Win chance, lower multiplier has nothing to do if you have a bad luck, you will lost no matter how much is your bet, multiplier, bankroll.
I don't understand why people like you always say that luck is the most important in gambling, FYI you will not save by your luck when you abuse it. We know that luck only strike sometimes and if we play regularly we will ran out of luck for sure.
12684  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [PRE-ANN] WAVES. Ultimate crypto-tokens blockchain platform. on: June 27, 2016, 11:12:16 AM
I understand why there are so many disgruntled investors of this coin. But like any other ICO coins, the price drop is inevitable. If you know better, you could have just dump it at the early hours of trading and buyback anytime, that is if you trully believe with what this coin has to offer.

Take ETH for example. Its ICO price has drop within hours after it reach exchange(s). And it took 5 months before its price started to climb.

Bottom line, lets just wait for the development of wave's features and before we know it, its price will soon climb.
 
That's the strategy, I just hope that I can see the price to be lower or even at 0.0001, so many are dumping so within the next few days we can see some cheap waves then that is the time to buy.
12685  Economy / Economics / Re: Best way for steady income on: June 27, 2016, 06:44:12 AM
I think if you want to earn a steady income. you can try on investment. there are many investments such as mining or other investments where you'll have a steady income every week
yes, I think the investment is the best way to make a steady income, but if you want to generate a lot of income, then you need to invest a lot bitcoin
There is no steady income with investment. You need to take the risk when you are an investor and not all the time you will be successful so that is really so risky.

Unless you invest in property or a house alone, if you invest that big land never loses value man. Buy and sell houses for profit, you will make constant money as you're living and making money off of bitcoins! You can even rent the house out also!

Good luck in your real estate journey lol

Land will not give you a good profit if you will not utilize it, to be able to utilize it you need to build a house on it and make it a condominium or an apartment and you will just sit and receive payment on a regular basis, for me that is the best way to utilize your land and to have a steady income.
12686  Economy / Speculation / Re: How many bitcoins do I need to retire in 20 years? on: June 27, 2016, 06:25:58 AM
Buy many as you can.
 
But do not feel too secured if you have lots of bitcoins.  We do not know what will happen in the span of 20 years.  I have faith in bitcoins that its price will still be on the top compare to other cryptocurrency, but we cannot tell.  What if something happens, what if there is no more power supply, what if for some reason government find reason to ban the bitcoins.  Instead of bitcoins, you may want to buy gold and silver.

I agree with you, just buy or earned it as much as you can. Because we don't know in 20 years, how much the price of bitcoin on that year. It's better to have many bitcoins.

Yeah i guess but dont waste all of your money when just saving it alone would be enough to retire you lol, be careful with your money and how you spend it, that's how habits get out of hand easily

Good luck you'll probably need at least 300+ to make sure  that you're in the clear.
300+ is good but more that enough for me, considering that price of bitcoins is steady increasing thru time then when that time comes that is already a huge amount to enjoy our retirement.
12687  Economy / Economics / Re: Why better tech can't kill Bitcoin on: June 27, 2016, 06:21:02 AM
Bitcoins cannot be killed because this is what people are looking, with the best features on decentralized transaction is all we need to make our money safe keeping it online. How can anymore beat the cheap transaction fee and with the anonymous features that others cannot imitate.
12688  Economy / Economics / Re: What percentage of people on Earth will own Bitcoin by 2020 on: June 27, 2016, 06:10:57 AM
i think at least 80 per cent of people will be using bitcoins by 2020 because it will surely be much more popular then
That is too unrealistic, we need more time to make that happen or even would not happen, it is not only bitcoins is the currency in this world although this is popular but when the government will interfere then it is a different story then.
12689  Economy / Economics / Re: How too get rich on: June 27, 2016, 06:01:20 AM
There is no real plan or simple explaining on how to get rich, there are so many factors that have to be good to accomplish this.
Some people as example will become rich because they are simply holding the bitcoin.

Yeah, there is no way of simple explaining on how to get rich. What you need is that you need to work hard for your plan to get rich.
And you need to follow it each step.
And you need to surpass all the challenges you are going to experience. But if you want to get rich buy a lot of bitcoin at low price and sell it after the halving.
Buying bitcoins now and expecting to get profit after the halving is a big gamble, you need to make sure that the amount you invested is the amount you can afford to lose, take note that not all the time the outcome favors us.
12690  Economy / Economics / Re: If Bitcoin goes up very high should i buy a house? on: June 27, 2016, 05:56:34 AM
If Bitcoin goes up very high should i buy a house?

Ive been thinking if it went into very high figures i could cash out 80-90% of bitcoin and buy a house outright with no mortgage.  Is that even a good idea though? - basically 80% of networth in a house hmmm.  On the other hand i dont want to have a mortgage and im fed up with renting due to landlords, letting agents and lack of control.
Technically, anything real-estate is a bad investment in my opinion.

You have a large chunk of your property as an immovable thing that's just sitting there. If ever you need to sell the house, the price would have to be lower than what you bought it for. If ever there's a disaster, you can't simply walk away with your house.

If I were me, I'd just rent a reasonably-priced flat. All responsibility regarding it would be shouldered by the landlord (repair, taxes, papers, etc.) If there was a disaster, you don't worry about your place because that's the landlord's job. You would simply just pay a monthly fee. Lesser stress, lesser financial burden.
What do you want? A house with nothing in it or a modestly-sized flat that's filled with stuff that matters?
We have our own decision because some considered real state as assets and some as liability, but if you could transform your real estate to earn for you like rent it then that would be a good plan, of course disaster might come so need to insured the building to cover up losses when calamity hit your area.
12691  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin or gold? on: June 27, 2016, 05:45:46 AM
I'm choosing for them both because its both very nice to have and also very profitable compared with other investments.
You should pick one for a long term and the other one (bitcoin) for a short term.

Choosing for it both is a good way to make profit, the gold is right now also staggering so that is pretty nice.
Its both got a good future so its indeed worth investing in it.

Yes that's a good way to get more profit. You don't have to choose between them. As long as you can use them wisely and you know how you can take
the advantage of having them both.
Because having multiple source of income is a good thing and bitcoin & gold has what it takes.

Gold is kicked out of the game, people were saying it to reach $2k, which never happened.
Bitcoins (ATH) reached the price of Gold (recent lows) and have the potential to go far more than current rates, Bitcoins are more volatile and Gold has limited liquidity. It is rising but will take years, while bitcoins are able to give you xxx times your investment back, would you still choose to invest in both?
Yes, I would still invest in both. What if bitcoin fails? What if there's a major calamity or war? What would you do? Stare at the QR-code for your private key? Will that feed you in dire situations?

It's good to have contingency plans. Remember that Bitcoin is simply a research project by satoshi that garnered the people's interest and gave it value.
If you have all the money to do both that would be fine, but if you are ambitious who only has a little amount of money to invest for you should choose bitcoins and it has a good future that gold. The more risk we take the more profit we gain, so be a risk taker if you want to be rich.
12692  Economy / Speculation / Re: how much gonna be 1 BTC in a year? on: June 27, 2016, 05:17:24 AM
It's very hard to say at this moment. It can be 1k but we may see bitcoin float around the 500 dollar mark for years.
Right now i feel not confident to buy honestly.
$1,000 is a conservative estimate, it could happen in year because the trend is already going up. Overtime bitcoins will be popular and more investors will try to adopt and even the merchants is a great help to spread the news about bitcoins which would benefits the community as a whole.
12693  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: If you were rich, would you still gamble? on: June 27, 2016, 05:08:55 AM
I think many rich people gamble reason being they have that luxury of extra money where even if they loose will not actually hamper them. So they tend to gamble a lot if they are interested to do so.


And they are no worried when their bets loss, because they have much money and don't care about their bets. They not gambling for profit, but for fun.
We can also safely say that they have big banroll that's why they don't mind to lose much because they can recover it easily and do a safe play once they hit their butterzone.
Bankroll is important in gambling but the reality is even if the rich lose they would not mind. They have huge amount of money that they are ready to lose in gambling in return of the expected satisfaction of fun.
The rich people concerns is not the bankroll because they have the money to gamble and for them they want to be entertain even if they will spend money in gambling, with that word spend it does mean expenses on their part and they are born to be happy even if they lose in gambling.
12694  Other / Archival / Re: Who won the biggest amount in Satoshimines ? on: June 27, 2016, 05:05:22 AM
always end with bomb every i try to play satoshimines , even only 1 first click i get bomb , i think my luck not in there

have you  tried playing on practice mode or a real game ?
i think no one win win hight amount in practice mode. if a person want to get high amount he must play in real mode.

No. I always win in a practise mode too. Wanna see ? Here is the biggest win in satoshimines in practise mode. Game link = https://satoshimines.com/s/85920755/cJ5OmrLkIkSW/

That's one hell of a win. That one gave you 22x! May I know how many tries you had made before you got that?
I assume that you have always tried to use that pattern where the mine is on the most lower-right corner.

Buddy,  Its just 1 time only. No more than 1 attempt to play and win. I have got some idea to tackle the game.


Please correct me if I'm wrong. Are you saying that you were sure that you're gonna win on the first try?
If so, I'm very interested in that idea you got there.
Maybe he is just implying to beginner's luck, you can only win that amount of bitcoins if you have an extreme luck while playing, not advisable to do it again as luck in never consistent. Quit while you can and leave with profits.
12695  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Did gambling get you into Bitcoin or did Bitcoin get you into gambling? on: June 27, 2016, 05:02:43 AM
That is a nice question for most of the people i think the bitcoin get their into the gambling because first you need a couple of bitcoins before you can gamble with it you know.
Not me, I already love gambling though I have not discovered bitcoins yet. I am using paypal to gamble in online sports book and when I discover bitcoins my gambling hobby made easy and until now I am enjoying gambling with BTC.
12696  Economy / Economics / Re: Does the next halving really matter that much? on: June 27, 2016, 04:58:12 AM
There will be a high chance that you can make a lot of profit with Bitcoin and that would be nice because maybe it will jump there and than we can make some huge profit.
The bad thing is that you are not for sure that you can make profit with Bitcoin.
As far as I know, when halving happen the difficulty miners are affected due to the difficulty of mining, in that case if the price will not rise they will not be operating profitably so they will push the price to rise and that is what I am riding with also. I invest in bitcoins in a regular basis especially when there is a panic to buy cheap bitcoins.
Mining will not get more difficult, the halving will just make the miners fee cut into half. It is not the mining that will get more difficult but the bitcoin that you will get on your fee.
Well nice explanation man. I think that the next halving really matters. It matters because it only occurs once every 4 years.

 The next halving will really matters because more people will be more aware by the time if it will occur again, and surely with that mining hardwares will be disposed by the owners at the time halving will come because the more bigger difficulty will be happen at that time.
And also people will load some bullets so they can save for the
 next halving because this halving happening today raise awareness that halving can be profitable and worth to wait.
Every halving is an opportunity, an opportunity to earn in a short period of time, so basically halving is important. It makes the price increase and when you know hot to ride with it you will grow as the price grow.
12697  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling problem on: June 27, 2016, 04:55:27 AM
Just take a chill-pill during the day, spend whole day working a lot, try not to visit any places where you gambled before, get a new girlfriend to hang out with.
You will get out of gambling. Wink
Good advise mate, I think the new girlfriend will help, if you can lose in gambling anyway then why not get a hot girlfriend to spend your time and spend all your money with your girl you will have a hot relationship everyday, your body is so tired that you cannot think of gambling anymore.
12698  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What keeps you coming back??? on: June 27, 2016, 04:52:20 AM
Some people come back to gambling because they just for fun and there are some people come back to gambling because addiction, i come back to gambling because fun and not addiction of gambling. Beware with it.  Cheesy
The real fun in gambling is when you will experience to be addicted and later on you will learn from your experience and you will adjust your playing time accordingly. I have experienced to be addicted and it feels like everytime I gamble I do not use my brain and it was all pure emotions that drives me.
12699  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [PRE-ANN] WAVES. Ultimate crypto-tokens blockchain platform. on: June 27, 2016, 04:49:48 AM
Will WAVES show 3x ROI for ICO investors in near future? Accept any negative or positive hints. Thanks.
Trying to find answer the question 'to dump or not to dump'.

What's the point of asking a question like this? Fudders will tell u no its a scam and real investors will tell u to hold...
Exactly, I hope the price will not rise so that we can hold here and we belong to the real investors group, too early to tell that waves will not prosper in the future, sasha is just playing the weak hand and everytime they dump he buys.
12700  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2016 NBA Finals on: June 27, 2016, 04:34:23 AM
What I like about the news recently is the move of DROSE to the knicks. New york knicks is a good market so he can be popular their when we can show the old rose. I believe Anthony would love to play with a very good point guard, another big 3 to watch with porzingis.

That could be a big three to watch out for. But I think it will take some time before they can blend fully together and show us their true power. Even the merging of wade-bosh-lebron took a year before they claim a championship. I think this will took sometime too. I also want to see again the pre-injury d-rose on the court (if he can be that good again)
this can't be a big three guys time already past for them they already have many injuries especially drose while melo is not the man of winning only knows how to shoot the ball but not playing hard to win the ring.
We will see in the coming season how interesting this team would be, I know for sure as long as DROSE is playing we will love to see the games of New York Knicks.
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