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12741  Other / Meta / Re: Reporting this user - need to make sure we're all on the same page (re:sig spam) on: November 27, 2016, 08:25:31 PM
Did Amph get banned or something?   That's exactly what this situation reminds me of.  Too many garbage posts, broken English,  etc.  I have this dude on my ignore list just because I get absolutely nothing out of his posts. 

Good old Yobit, how I miss that campaign. 
12742  Other / Meta / Re: I'm out! Thanks Hilarious you friendly butty boi. on: November 27, 2016, 03:48:45 AM
Sour grapes posting is what teenagers do.  Probably not a bad thing you got the boot.  Give you some time to grow up and get away from the keyboard for a while.  If you had multiple accounts that's even better.   For all of us.

Edit:  Jaaaayzus Gleb, you have an extremely long memory for this sort of thing.  LOL.  I can only imagine what your extensive 'files' look like. 

There are some good meds for OCD nowadays, not that I'm suggesting you need to be medicated.  Don't know what I'm saying.  It's late.
12743  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: New scammer is here ( take care while dealing with him ) on: November 27, 2016, 01:56:54 AM
Ugh...why would anyone want to earn 20 cents by downloading something?  I wouldn't trust anything like that, but I'm computer-retarded and wouldn't know what's safe and what's not.

This is another glaring example of why escrow is so important and why not blindly trusting members here is also important.  Seems stupid to use an escrow for just pennies, but when some tard like this one doesn't pay up it could have been quite useful.  Let's hope he comes through on his end of the bargain.
12744  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: EBay and Bitcoin on: November 27, 2016, 12:48:40 AM
It doesn't matter if 100% of sellers are from China.  If those sellers don't use bitcoin, it doesn't matter.  I cannot imagine the adoption rate of bitcoin is anywhere near even 10% in China.  And Ebay is a US company that apparently doesn't (yet) like bitcoin.  Has a little something to do with them owning PayPal, which, even though they're now separate companies, are still very much intertwined.

Maybe someday we'll see bitcoin being used on Ebay.  I have offered it as a payment method a few times while selling things, but everyone seems to like PayPal just fine.
12745  Other / Meta / Re: how to gain trust? on: November 26, 2016, 10:59:02 PM
Simple, but how does one go about removing negative trust?
Step one is to stop being a scammer, but in your case that's gonna be highly unlikely.  You probably bought your account, am I right?  You bought it with the old scammer tag along with it?  I LOL'ed whilst viewing your trust page, because while your account is well-aged, you're still a noob. 

OP, just be a productive member of this forum and don't worry about getting trust.  Why does it concern you, anyway?  That's what other people are wondering even if they don't ask it.  A lot of people around here want to get trusted in order to scam, so your question is suspicious.
12746  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: No one wants to spend 10,000 of their Altcoins for a Pizza on: November 26, 2016, 09:56:33 PM
This brings up a fundamental problem of altcoins in general...no one who makes pizza is going to want to accept some shitty shitcoin.  Even 10,000 of them.  Not Dominos, Papa John's, Pizza Hut, or any of my local pizza places.  I'd be happy to spend some DOGE or whatever to buy pizza and breadsticks.  Tell Dominos!!
12747  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Economic Nobel prize for Satoshi Nakamoto on: November 26, 2016, 01:29:10 AM
But who would claim it yes give satoshi a Nobel prize let's start an online petition
That won't do diddly-shit.  Online petitions are like group masturbation parties.

Now I have to say, most Nobel Prizes (except for the stupid peace prize, and probably Economics too) are given for achievements that are absolute breakthroughs.  From what I understand, the blockchain concept is revolutionary but I don't think bitcoin or any other blockchain-based thing has proven itself to be as useful as many masturbators here think.  So far, bitcoin hasn't changed humanity in any appreciable way--yes, the fanboys' mouths are constantly a-frothing, but it's nothing like the invention of the internet or penicillin.

And then there's the issue of not knowing who Satoshi is...

Edit:  I am admittedly a recluse who doesn't watch TV.  Bob Dylan won a Nobel prizeHuh  That's just bizarre.

And I disagree about the worthless bauble, at least for the sciences.  Anything that motivates the advancement of physics and medicine is just fine by me.  Now, Academy awards are useless.  The Nobel in Peace is for metaphorical fudge-packers.  But the science I support.
12748  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: What is the best coin to buy on polo now? on: November 26, 2016, 12:09:24 AM
Buy what nobody recommends but make sure it's not total junk.


Best coin to buy probably isn't on polo though because coins listed there are pumped already. Polo-coins are actually higher risk than those not listed there after all these months of pumping.
But that's the thing,  they're all junk.  It doesn't mean it's impossible to profit from any of them, but you have to get in and out quickly.   Frankly I wouldn't touch any of them right now.
12749  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is Bitcoin the Trojan horse to help push the move to a world government? on: November 25, 2016, 10:50:48 PM
Eh, could be, but I highly doubt it.  With Satoshi's identity being unknown, it is pretty interesting to speculate about how and why bitcoin was conceived.  And of course, who aside from "Satoshi" was behind it.  Could be a malignant government presence, could be just a computer geek.

If this is some evil government trojan horse, it's not taking like they thought it would, is it?
12750  Economy / Speculation / Re: Friday, January 20, 2017, let's pay attention to that date on: November 25, 2016, 10:41:53 PM
<snip>there doesn't need to be anything logical, just a psychological factor<snip>
You got that right, and may I also add that markets have already begun reacting to Trump's victory.  The date when he actually takes office isn't as important as would be imagined (IMO).  Look at what the US stock market is doing--bank stocks are soaring along with some other sectors, and that's all in anticipation of what Trump is going to do.  At this point it's pretty speculative, but my point is that we don't need to wait until 1/20/17 for bitcoin to do whatever it's going to do.

But we'll see, won't we.
12751  Economy / Lending / Re: Hey kindly people ;] I NEED 0.008 - 0.01 loan on: November 25, 2016, 09:33:16 PM
Since you could not be bothered to fill out a proper loan request--along with the standard info that such requests contain--I can only assume you want a donation.  You can't beg on this forum, sonny boy.  No one here is crazy enough (with exceptions) to send you anything. 

Put up collateral or just go away.
12752  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: How Not To Be Scammed By an Initial Coin Offering #ICO #crypto on: November 25, 2016, 01:38:34 AM
How Not To Be Scammed By an Initial Coin Offering #ICO #crypto

Simple, don't buy into them.
This.  They're all just garbage, and none of them have any innovations that give them any advantage over the 1000s of shitcoins that are already clogging up the plumbing.  It would be laughable if it weren't so exhausting.   Buying any of these ico coins--or post-ico coons--is straight up gambling, and you ought to expect to lose whatever you invest.
12753  Other / Meta / Re: need help. account banned without warning. on: November 24, 2016, 09:01:33 PM
I love how users magically start using punctuation, capital letters, and proper English once they get banned.  Not sure what your case is, but after reading your last 20 or so posts, I learned nothing and wish I hadn't spent the time doing so.  Zero-value posts, all of them.  And most were in megathreads where no one fucking reads anything anyway.  Happy thanksgiving, hope you don't come back.
12754  Economy / Reputation / Re: LENDERS BEWARE OF - LAUDA - HE IS RED TAGGING LOAN COLLATERAL ACCOUNTS on: November 24, 2016, 08:48:41 PM
I didnt want to get involved in this thread as well but at this point, since i'm a lender, there is something i'm interested about
Taking accounts as collateral is a bad idea.

I have some points:
  • My very personal opinion is that Lauda is right and OP is wrong: he didnt tag those accounts because collateral ready to be sold, but for other reasons and i'm sorry OP but it is the risk of our business and you should be aware of it. When you take an account as collateral you do it with a public signed message so: how would you ever think to hide it and be able to sell it without expecting a tag soon or later? Shield docet...
  • As i said many times, i run my business as a "mature" person: when you decide to lend out your money you must know the risks. One of the risks to take accounts as collateral is being tagged as account farmer/encouraging accounts trading. This is a fact. So the "maturity" of my business is the attempt to use an account as collateral only from people that would not ruin their reputation for a few bucks we are para-lending here. The final goal of a lending business is to have positive earnings > defaulted loans.
    More explained here:
    Do as i do: dont sell the accounts. Put a signature of your service in defaulted loans accounts: you will get more customers by that advertising and will stop supporting account farmers.
    Think on long terms about your business...
    References:
    https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1674878.msg16818586#msg16818586
    https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1674878.msg16818509#msg16818509
    ~Gun

So my question (based on the list above):
Taking accounts as collateral is a bad idea if you are going to feed the account market selling all yoru defaults. If you look at it like i said, yiou dont need to sell those accounts for multiple reasons:
  • As long as you gain experience in that, you will get less defaulters in your business
  • You can use those few defaulted accounts with your signature advertising your service and so spreading the voice about yoru business

I'd like to underline the concept once more: if i was a DT and i would see you run yoru lending busines with the only purpose to acquire collateral accounts and then sell them, i woudnt only tag your "bought" accounts: i would tag you as well.
~Gun
Sorry, it has been a few since I have cared to get on.  I do understand Lauda and where his position is, but the facts are that there is no rules against selling these accounts in here.  There are also no rules against taking them for collateral.   With that said, no member, especially default trust members, should be allowed to tag the accounts because they were lost in collateral or because they are being sold.  For those who are using sold accounts to scam, they are not buying them here to begin with.  The real scammers are avoiding the whole system and buying elsewhere.  The #1 reason to buy an account is to make more money in a signature campaign.  if they place rules against it, then it will stop, but there are no rules prohibiting this; what that said, who is he to decide to stop someone from joining a signature campaign by making his remarks.

Allowing members like him to act on their own for the whole community brings down the value of the community.  Here is an idea, prohibit signature campaigns!!  That is the easiest fix.  Then these accounts would not be worth nothing to any other members and the prices would go down next to nothing.  80% of the lending would stop because the only collateral would be something like Altcoins, which most people will not bother borrowing when they can just exchange the coin.  So if the people who own and run the site wanted to prevent and help stop the scamming, they would just close the lending thread and prohibit signature campaigns.  Simple as that, however that will never happen.  I have a few websites in which users can apply for membership.  On all of those sites, it prevents people frmo making farmed accounts and such based a number of factors.  This protective measure would also help prevent farmed accounts and such.  It is plain as day, you can not mark a cross walk on a road, equipped with a button to push to allow you a turn to walk across and then punish the button pusher.  

So I call any high staff member, default trust member or above to give me a legit reason on here why another member can tag an account that is being sold or an account that is being used for collateral, when there are no rules or regulations against it??
Knighton, there are no rules against members leaving trust that they see fit.  You just don't like the trust you received.   You like arguing for the rules as long as they go your way, that's basically what this boils down to.

Do you have any evidence of where most accounts are bought and sold and for what purpose,  or is this an assertion just to strengthen your argument against tagging?
12755  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Would it be fair to say no one actually uses any of these alts... on: November 24, 2016, 08:15:19 PM
Which ones are you talking about specifically?   Regardless,  you're right.  No one spends them, but that doesn't necessarily mean they're useless,  and it certainly doesn't imply that they don't have value.  The bigger ones do, most are headed for the Yobit graveyard though.
12756  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Cunicula has stolen escrow of 1.5BTC on: November 24, 2016, 04:33:13 PM
OP seems like a dumbass.  Also, check his trust page because it would appear he engaged in a little scammy behavior himself.   Nothing here smells right, but nothing ever does in the shitcoin world.

And yeah, who would use cunicula as an escrow for a campaign?  Makes no sense.
12757  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Does anyone ever look at "Announcements (Altcoins)" anymore? on: November 24, 2016, 10:50:26 AM
I'm into very few altcoins as it is, and I wouldn't be able to keep up with the torrent of shitcoin announcements even if I wanted to.  I have that section on ignore, along with a bunch of others.  It's all garbage to me.
12758  Other / Archival / Re: Looking for 0.05 BTC loan (No collateral) on: November 22, 2016, 05:30:31 PM
OP you have an old account but only 1 positive trust without a valid reference link.  You know accounts get bought and sold here, and even if you don't use an addy twice, you never staked one here from a single wallet?  I would advise anyone thinking of lending to this guy to think carefully,  because this is how people get burned.
12759  Economy / Goods / Re: [WTB] Nintendo classic/ NES Classic on: November 22, 2016, 04:28:12 AM
Anyone here anything? I heard toys r us had some for about 5 minutes and EB games got a few more but I found out too late for both.
No and I've given up the quest for now.  I will wait until Nintendo comes to its senses and starts mass producing them like they should have done from the get go.  I don't need to buy them for gifts or anything. 

Have you checked Nintendo's website?  They may post updates.
12760  Economy / Reputation / Re: LENDERS BEWARE OF - LAUDA - HE IS RED TAGGING LOAN COLLATERAL ACCOUNTS on: November 22, 2016, 12:44:09 AM
wow , just wow .
What are you trying to imply here? That it's a surprise that I agree with KWH or that their stance on the matter is as stated?

From what has been said here, this would be a dangerous precedent that would result in an implied restriction and discouragement to the lenders not to accept Bitcointalk accounts as collateral.
Did you even read anything written by me? The account was not tagged because it was collateral. I did not even know about this loan at the time of the negative rating, nor at the time of the PM (OP did not provide the link at that time).

Because leaving a red trust really destroys an account and makes it worthless. No one wants to trust an account with red trust; that's the truth. But getting a red trust from doing something which has been heavily debated as legal and valid in this forum, now that is unfair.
Yet you took in an account with 3 previous negative trust ratings as collateral. Interesting.

I predicted this was going to be brought up. In retrospect, I would say accepting that account was a newbie mistake on my part, and I have taken that one as a loss on my part.

It is the future transactions that lenders will do, is what I fear will be prejudiced if we can no longer dispose of the accounts we held as collateral.

So in light of these question, what do you guys propose us lenders do with an account left with us as guarantees for loans we give out? Or would you propose us lenders not to take accounts as collateral anymore?
You asked me via PM to remove my feedback on that noob account, and I said no.  We discussed it, but I was hoping you'd start a topic like this so we could all talk about it. 

I don't support account sales, and taking them as collateral for loans I don't support either.  You trying to sell that account is only going to help the scammers and shitposters, and whilst the feedback I left might not apply anymore, if I removed it I would only be adding another negative for it being sold. 

You should have known that douchenozzle was going to abandon that account.  You didn't do it out of the kindness of your heart, you did it for profit and you got burned.  As I said in my PM, I respect your position but next time you'll know better.
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