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12781  Economy / Economics / Re: PayPal to allow cryptocurrency buying, selling and shopping on its network on: October 21, 2020, 04:16:49 PM
Wonder who will this go. Paypall was a big Bitcoin hater all these years. Someone from USA should confirm if they can buy Bitcoin from their paypal account. For next year they are promising to also use all paypal merchants with Bitcoin.

 I did that.  20 usd worth is in my account.

I am based in New Jersey, USA
12782  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 21, 2020, 03:44:00 PM
This is a perfect launch pad for a small investor.

Simply buy and hodl.

Buy 20usd a week and hodl.

The only advantages over doing the same at the existing exchanges is that at the existing exchanges sending fiat could cost more.
But at least when he reaches 1000$ (or whatever he thinks so) the small investor can withdraw as Bitcoin if he wants to.
Oh well... I've seen the same with Revolut and I've considered it an incorrect move (incorrect for the customer). But I guess they'll have their niche and I can't deny, the advertising they bring is great.

I am curious what will be the exchange rate difference from main exchanges. I am curious how the spending will go. Will they become the main hub for spending Bitcoin at shopping (as they hope, I guess)?

Paypal is worldwide and has 300 million accounts.

and I am thinking a lot of other people are liking this as btc is over 12,689 last I looked.

I think a lot of people don't understand what adapting BTC entails.

This is a step in the correct direction.




And the first fool to post PayPal froze all my btc is just that a fool .  Why would you have more then 10% of your btc in PayPal.
12783  Economy / Economics / Re: PayPal to allow cryptocurrency buying, selling and shopping on its network on: October 21, 2020, 03:17:13 PM
I have $20




12784  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 21, 2020, 03:09:47 PM
I had to login with my personal account to see crypto on Paypal.  It put me on a waiting list though to be able to buy.

You won't be able to withdraw to your own wallet. It looks like a sad joke (similar to what Revolut has as "buy Bitcoin").
So it's not actually useful to buy.

And spend... who spends Bitcoin now?  Grin

This is a perfect launch pad for a small investor.

Simply buy and hodl.

Buy 20usd a week and hodl.

For instance I have 2 rebate companies retailmenot and cabin coupon.  I get 300-500 a year in rebates. It Is sent to my PayPal account.

I can buy 300-500 a year in btc and ignore it or should I say hodl it.

BTW my $20.00 in BTC is now Worth $20.38  Grin
12785  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 21, 2020, 02:57:26 PM
Sorry. But why are you so happy about paypal? That means KYC. That means no use of mixer. Bye bye privacy. What is so fucking cool about that?


Using mixers and getting privacy = dead

always was going to go to dead

and no matter how much you want that to not be dead it will die.


If it does not die the Govs  of the world will kill btc off.





Now you can be private ,but the new privacy will be with very little liquidity.

Not mixers at all.



12786  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 21, 2020, 02:55:21 PM
do they charge fees to transfer to another paypal account?

I have 2 PayPal accounts I may try to figure that out in a day or 2.
12787  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 21, 2020, 02:54:13 PM
I purchased the $20 usd to show how and to see the rules.

MY guess is they may allow it to move one day to Coinbase


That then allows for withdraw to your wallet.


This PayPal is to let people  get into market "painlessly" so to speak.

"as to how locked the coins are it does not matter 1 bit as long as you know they are locked into the account and as long as you are smart enough to not put all eggs into one basket."

Ie:

 I have 2 btc in my PayPal account and it was frozen = so what don't you have 20 coins in your own wallets?
12788  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 21, 2020, 02:42:46 PM
Has anyone thought about the fact that there will probably be no network fees when you buy something with bitcoin using PayPal?

Bueller?


Well, based on the screenshots from philipma1957, "Cryptocurrencies cannot be used to send money or pay for services on PayPal." So I am guessing, no network fees.

I did a screen shot every step of the way.

me like this one.




new balance page is nice.

12789  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 21, 2020, 02:38:24 PM
Where is the crypto section on Paypal?  I can't find it.  I am logged into my business account.  Does that matter?  I am in USA.

I was linked via my email. I am usa based.

My purchase and my new look account page




12790  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 21, 2020, 02:31:25 PM
So here goes.







12791  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 21, 2020, 02:14:42 PM
I guess I should buy some








12792  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 21, 2020, 02:09:32 PM
Ahhh. A pleasant little AYH.

Yep we are now able to answer the child's question coming from the back seat of the car with a yes!

See question below:



Are we there yet?



Next question will be are we over 13k?
12793  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: MSI X570-A Pro motherboard, problems getting +2 gpu for mining on: October 21, 2020, 02:06:14 PM
In 2017 I bought MSI Mortar Arctic B350, with 4 PCI-E, but I never managed to mine with 4 cards, only 3 and with some problems, tried everything like you said, update bios, change bios config, update windows, change risers, change cards etc, one day I was so tired that I sold this motherboard and bought Asus B350F Strix, and I put 6 cards running without any problem, simple and easy
After that I bought 2 more motherboards from Asus, the same model, and all worked great

Maybe the problem is the motherboard, and it's doesn't worth to spend a lot of time trying to fix this
I suspect there's something related to PCI lanes, but it's just a guess, the motherboard can't handle with more cards

The best thing to do is research before buy any motherboard, to see if the mobo is good to mine

I have many ASUS M5-A97 mining flawless since 2015. ASUS seems a great mobo maker, indeed.

Sadly, at the moment of building this rig, MSI was my only option available here.

Thanks for your tip.

update the bios.  I've had problems early on with the 4xx and 5xx series boards when they were first released with release bios in that they would only recognize a couple cards.  I think it was around AGESA 1.0.0.2 release for the bios that they started recognizing more cards.  Asus boards have worked the best for me.  They seem to release more BIOS updates more often.  Dealing with gigabyte has been a pain as bios updates are not that frequent.

I don't have that specific board.  i have the MSI X570 Gaming Pro Wifi, with a 3950X, two reference 5700 cards, and 1200 watt platinum ps.  All problems that i've had have been fixed with bios updates.

Yeah he can do 2 with current bios its the third card that's a bitch.

BTW.

 I like my Asus boards over any other  amd board.

I have

asrock
asrock taichi
gigabyte
Asus

the Asus boards work the best.

and funny thing about amd 5000 series cards.

I have 30 different ones.

2 rma's

both never worked on any board amd or intel windows or linux. and there were Asus dual rx 5700 xt.  I had to return them. I Tried them for days on different setups.
12794  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: MSI X570-A Pro motherboard, problems getting +2 gpu for mining on: October 21, 2020, 01:03:44 PM
I own lots of amd x570 mobos.

They suck with lots of cards.

you can run the cpu on xmr
you can run 2 cards on eth

they will work fine.

bump to the third card they crash.

I own 4 ryzen 3900x rigs with 1x 5500 or 1x 5600 or 1x 5700. 1x 1080ti 1x 1660ti all work great I mine both xmr with the cpu and eth with what ever gpu is in there.

most are okay with 2 cards all suck with 3 cards.

I have 2 thread rippers. on the Asus prime mobo
https://www.newegg.com/asus-prime-trx40-pro/p/N82E16813119219?
I have a 3970 and a 3960.

They are great with 1 card
They are good with 2 cards
They are okay with 3 cards. At the moment I am running them with  1 power color  red dragon rx 5700xt


https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07WNYZJ7Y/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o04_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1




I owned 1 ryzen 3950x rig same issue.
I owned 1 ryzen 3800x
I owned 1 ryzen 3700x


So basically eight or nine mobos of x570 mobos 30 different cards and 3600 3700 3800 3900 3950 cpus. 

1 card great
2 cards good
3 cards spotty at best.

3 threadripper rigs-------- I sold my 1920 thread ripper
2 different mobos    Asus and Asrock taichi

1 card great
2 cards good
3 cards better then spotty

The amd threadripper cpus are really good for mining xmr

   a 3960 thread ripper with a amd 5700 is nice rig.  it won't pay off fast but if you do mixed use it is very nice.
12795  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 21, 2020, 03:34:37 AM
Over $12.2k and nobody cares?

I do!
12796  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: issue on T17e on: October 21, 2020, 03:20:50 AM
I have a new controller purchased in April 2019 for the s17.

I wonder if I used it with the dead psu if the psu would work.

I could do it.

I would need 2 hook up 4 fans. to the new controller. and simply check the voltage reading.

if it reads under 0.5.with the April 2019 firmware and the aftermarket firmware

then the psu is dead.

I will give it a shot tomorrow.
12797  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Avalon A10 series announced on: October 21, 2020, 03:15:57 AM
I sent them 1 email maybe I will try tomorrow.
12798  Economy / Speculation / Re: Top 20 days for Bitcoin on: October 21, 2020, 12:44:09 AM
measured in 5 different fiat currencies bitcoin is back in the top 100 highest daily prices. top 100 highest daily price out of a list of 4000 daily prices, we are in the top 2.5% of highest daily prices bitcoin has ever achieved. this is in contrast to the the price of bitcoin currently trading more than 40% under its ATH
thx yefi  Smiley

we got close to 12k close

from 51-100 we are at 29 of 50 from 2020.
12799  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Number 9! Ninth altcoin thread. Back to the moon Baby! on: October 21, 2020, 12:38:41 AM
In the past, everytime i was ready to sell off my gpus, it was the perfect time to scale up.

unfortunately i don't feel that way yet, so still more pain to come  Cheesy

This is a paradox of GPU mining. Cards are cheapest when there is no reason to mine and expensive when mining is rewarding. People who make out the best are those who buy cards when it's not worth mining and then mine on those cards, or even resell those cards when prices go up. 4GB RX 480s going for $170 used on eBay last month was a perfect opportunity to exit with 4GB cards. Now with the next gen NAVI cards coming out those rx cards should finally drop below $100.

It still hanging in there.

I am  thinking diff will drop maybe not like a rock but twenty percent drop could happen.

The navi may not be a big deal if they use a ton of power.

I can see the 5700, still being a decent card.
12800  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: issue on T17e on: October 20, 2020, 11:32:13 PM
I had exact same issue with a s17pro.

It was reading under .5 volts. vs 20 volts.

I replaced psu and it mines.  and reads 20.2 volts not 0.4321 volts.

You will need this psu

https://shop.bitmain.com/product/detail?pid=00020200401172045026n1QcI7CW0651

and it sells out a lot.
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