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1281  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Are successful gamblers seen as addicts? on: February 02, 2024, 10:19:29 PM
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Non gamblers find it a hassle to differentiate between both entities, but gamblers don't have to deal with the fact of confusing themselves between both entities. Addicts struggle with knowing when to stop or continue gambling. They involuntarily do their daily gambling duties and fail to realize what trouble would inevitably visit them at the cause of this daily mistake turned to a habit. Successful gamblers having similar daily activities yet controls the game and swim through the flood of choices around them, still suffer from the harsh words of critics that label them irrespective of their responsible gambling, addicts. The decision or choice is best to be discussed amongst gamblers than non-gamblers. It'll require a load of consistent advice and conversation for a non-gambler to understand the differences between an addict and a successful gambler.

I think only the person doing the gambling will be able to tell if they are addicted or not.

It's pretty much impossible to know from the outside in which state another person is.

So, that's the main thing to notice, an addict is defined by yourself really.

When both entities, a responsible gambler and a non-gambler, stays in same apartment with an addicted gambler. The responsible gambler will figure out earlier than the non-gambler, that the person is addicted to gambling. From his activities and behavior, an experienced gambler can detect that it's addiction. However, if the person is not staying with the addicted gamble in same house, it'll be difficult to unveil the truth from him. Due to their pretense, when asked, that all is right and cool with them, to escape critics. The issue could be that the person can't conclude that a person is addicted to gambling, if he's not being told by the addicted person. But the experience gambling staying close to the gambler, will know that there is something wrong somewhere in the life of the gambler. Then he can engage in a serious conversation with the player. He could open to him, since there are both in the same niche. Humans tend to share genuine information with their cohorts because they engage in same activity.
1282  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Quit gamble! Easy or Hard? Let's talk. on: February 02, 2024, 10:04:36 PM
Gambling is not a deadly addiction that cannot be broken once you are addicted. People can control themselves in any difficult situation if they want. If a gambler wants to, he can stop himself from gambling in any difficult situation at any time, so that gambler must be mentally prepared. If a gambler's family treats him well and can do good mental consulting, then 50% of the work will be easier and if he regularly participates in various social and cultural events, then it will be possible to prevent him from gambling addiction very easily. There is no need for drugs to get rid of gambling addiction, but a friendly treatment can bring back an addicted gambler from a psychologically distressed state.
Any addiction can be treated but it is very difficult, for those that have no problems with it stopping is very easy, but those which are addicted cannot do it once they begin, this is the same pattern that we see with alcoholics and drug addicts, in which they will consume those products until they die, and we have seen this with video games too as some players have played for so long that they die of exhaustion, so gamblers which are addicted need all the help they need, and if a doctor believes they need some medicine to make it easier for them to overcome the first stages of their recovery then they must use it.

Addicted players who don't wish to change are the hardest to heal or cure of their problem gambling. Every other addicted player can be rescued out of his gambling struggle. Families can achieve it with the collaboration of the addicted person. If he's not ready to comply. He wouldn't think of letting them know in the first instance. Addicted people have the tendency of hiding their habit from any third party, not minding if they're family or not. People don't want to be blamed for their habit. Especially when they're still comfortable with the habit. Hence a family that wishes to change a member from addiction, should be willing to engage in constant discussions with the person. The aim is to know as more information as possible in the person's life. How they discuss about gambling. They can mention about how much they spent during their last gambling session. Whether a person is known as a gambler or not. He deserves to be loved and allocated some discussion time. It matters in figuring out what the person is under passing hiddenly. The more the problem is hidden, it escalates internally in the person, thereby increasing his pains and suffering. Instead of them complying and sharing the problem with people, they'll think it's preferable than getting rejected or blamed by other people. Who may go ahead to spread the news of their ill condition. In a nutshell, our thoughts are different.
1283  Other / Off-topic / Re: You can not win if you do not risk on: February 02, 2024, 09:54:33 PM
A gambler without an aim is mainly risking his time and money. He'll stop gambling is the money runs out. The risk as stated by Op, is not something a player can engage into with no prior target. One can't just take a risk for no reason. In any venture in life, we ought to take risks. But what is the aim of gamblers who take frequent risks and don't achieve their goal? Risk is to be taken once a while, not all the time. When we are taking risk in gambling, it has to work with our instinct. Personal speaking, when I'm into a game, at some point I'd feel a bit sure of what could be my next outcome, I seize the moment for some risks. Although it doesn't occur to be as I presumed, but sometimes I win some funds out of the risk. Gamblers are meant to have strong observation of the game they are playing. Such that whenever they deem it right to take risk it won't affect their bankroll. Risk should be taken, not often, once a while.
Yes, but there are those who do not understand this, they take risks without understanding at all that this must be handled very carefully and carefully, because any bet with an unjustified risk can put an end to our games. In general, I like to take risks very rarely, only when I see an opportunity in it and have many reasons to do it. I carefully analyze the reasons for taking it upon myself; if there are not enough of them, then I simply will not get involved in it and will wait for the best moment for this, it will definitely come. I know this, so I'm in no hurry. And those who rush to place a bet under the influence of emotions and without analysis will be left without funds, unfortunately, I often see such examples.

Emotional influence on a gambler is a strong factor, how the gambler thinks, take choices, change decisions etc. matters in his gambling activities. If he's a person who find it difficult to take risks, he wouldn't try it anytime in gambling. So, it depends on the type of gambling and how they think the risk is worth taking. If a person who is not good at risks and identifying the right time to make such decision, gets carried away emotionally to indulge in risky gambling. He may not recover from his mistakes, easily. As he has no prior experience regarding such lifestyle emotionally. Hence, it'll affect him emotionally, to begin to think that way and making more mistakes. He could be thinking it's the right thing to do but is definitely arresting himself to gambling addiction. Whatever strategy a gambler chooses to practice he should make sure he masters it. Trying anything without few preinstalled ideas, is not encouraged. Players should try what they have been doing and knows how to get around it. It'll help us to conclude that with regulation any strategy is crucial and preferable.
1284  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: stop the unnecessary blame on gambling whenever you get unlucky on: February 02, 2024, 09:41:29 PM
A lot of people have been clamoring about how gambling has ruined their life but same gambling has set some people up for life, just like every other form of investment there must always be a profit or a loss.  And life is so balanced that what works for Mr A might not be the same that works for Mr B. Likewise in gambling,  while some are crying about their loss they are some who are smiling and celebrating their win.
You are right. Those who win may get some benefits and can open a business from the winning money. But those who lose and become addicted will ruin their lives and those of their families. Granted it's a balance but what I know is that more gamblers lose and become addicted than gamblers who play the game just as a game.

I think gambling is not the same as investing. In investing, you will be given assets that you can save and sell whenever you want. This is different from gambling where you risk your money on a game with the possibility that your money will double if you win or lose completely. So I think gambling is a game and not an investment at all.

Gambling has never been an investment. People only started looking at it as an investment due to the jackpot and huge wins it could provide to a gambler. In agreement to the general rumor that all the money a player has spent gambling, will be handed out to him as a jackpot. So, people easily spend money on gambling on such bases. And they don't regret losing, the only problem is that they are actually suffering pains than financial loss. Gamblers know that they'll win at some point. It gives them some bragging rights as a gambler. Seeing it that money shortage is the reason to the trouble or problem why gamblers blame their new habit inherited from gambling, could be argued. As not all are actually suffering from the problem. Gambling addicts don't always run out of money completely. They get worried over the amount of money spent on a single day because of gambling. Such shock in them can be choking them to an extent of raising an alarm. Which during his explanations to others would make it sound like gambling is the cause his trouble. But dip down he was only passing through the pain of spending high amount of money consistently.
1285  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: To what extent have you hated yourself due to your gambling losses? on: February 02, 2024, 01:37:44 PM
I blame myself in a way that tells me to be aware of how much money I'm losing when I'm on a losing streak, I don't necessarily hate myself but shouting curses and telling myself harsh words is one way to go when it comes to making sure that I don't bottle up the anger that I'm feeling when I'm gambling and so it doesn't burst out when I'm not gambling anymore and it saves the people that I'm interacting with that I'm not cranky after gambling. So far I'm doing just fine with that kind of set up in my gambling life, I'm all out of anger after gambling and no one is annoyed with me after gambling so it's win-win for me.

Hmm I'm curious, what is it that makes you blame yourself for the losses that you have experienced and why do you start the same thing? If that's true then maybe I would say that you are not a responsible gambler in the sense that you can't accept any results at the end of the session, but if it only happened once, meaning you didn't make it a habit and only at certain moments then maybe I would say that it's quite normal because everyone can never always avoid making mistakes that make them disappointed or lose, but if you keep repeating the same thing and with the same reaction at the end of the session especially when losing then maybe as I said above you are not able to accept the fact that you lost and that means there is no responsibility in your gambling approach, logically if you are always angry with yourself for losing then why not find a solution? For example, reduce the budget so that at the end of the session you don't feel too disappointed with yourself or another way may be to quit.

He is probably repeating same thing, whenever he notices he's lost lots of money while gambling. That doesn't make him irresponsible. I actually chuckled reading his response, in the sense that it could be his way of cautioning himself for spending so much money gambling. Since he's not worried on the development, he's all fine with it and nobody is getting disturb for his action. Then his reactions shouldn't be a trouble either. Gamblers have different ways of dealing with losses. Some time when I lose the reactions from me doesn't match my normal action or behavior. He only needs to find something else to make him feel happy when in such a mood. So that it won't eat him up in the process. It's always a thing we should expect as gamblers. Not all gamblers, though.
1286  Other / Off-topic / Re: You can not win if you do not risk on: February 02, 2024, 01:23:29 PM
Its not all about to take the risk but rather to understand the risk so that we provably know what we are facing and can possibly do some adjustment so that if worst scenario came to us we will not get affected then we could try again our luck for next time around. This one should need to take consideration by those risk taker people since if they don't have clear plans towards things they are participating especially those risky matters for sure they would collapsed and will not enjoy on what they have done on a casino.


Lets assume all of this is all about gambling and we separate business talks since we are in gambling section but people would really be in harmful condition if they don't think what they are doing so aside for taking the risk they should have brains to use so that they can try certain strategy that can help them win. Gambling without any aim or target is not good so people should set something that they think can satisfy them.


A gambler without an aim is mainly risking his time and money. He'll stop gambling is the money runs out. The risk as stated by Op, is not something a player can engage into with no prior target. One can't just take a risk for no reason. In any venture in life, we ought to take risks. But what is the aim of gamblers who take frequent risks and don't achieve their goal? Risk is to be taken once a while, not all the time. When we are taking risk in gambling, it has to work with our instinct. Personal speaking, when I'm into a game, at some point I'd feel a bit sure of what could be my next outcome, I seize the moment for some risks. Although it doesn't occur to be as I presumed, but sometimes I win some funds out of the risk. Gamblers are meant to have strong observation of the game they are playing. Such that whenever they deem it right to take risk it won't affect their bankroll. Risk should be taken, not often, once a while.

1287  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling addiction does more harm than mere financial loss on: February 02, 2024, 01:03:11 PM
Gambling addiction has been known to be associated with serious funds loss, bankruptcy, unsettled loan involvements, properties auctioning and other irritable financial behaviors that depicts frustration and desperations from the victims.
A little more observation shows clearly other effects of such addiction to just not the addict alone, but those around them, be it friends, family or neighbors. Here are a few of them:

All that you mention are potential outcome of gambling addiction but this event is also present on other form of addiction such as substance abuse and alcohol. In fact substance abuse can inflict more damage than gambling addiction since they literally destroy their body unlike gambling addiction that only their mindset is being poisoned by greediness.

Also this kind if scenario will only apply to those who have severe addiction not in general since I knew some addicted gamblers in my neighborhood that doesn’t commit this kind of action while seriously addicted to gambling based on the amount of time they are consuming by just playing in the casino. Not all addicted can’t handle their losses some can still move on and wait for other time to comeback again to fuel there addiction once more.

Substance abuse as you mentioned can be a huge damage to the body, but it has no much difference to gambling. Because no form of pain or sickness is good. Be it mental or body problem the person will not stay comfortable. None of them is encouraged due to the bad behavior it causes to the gambler. On the other hand, a gambling addict may not be efficiently capable to resist chasing loss for some time. The compulsive gambling in him won't let him some few moments away from gambling. A person who is still enabled to control himself at some point in gambling is not addicted. Although such people can get addicted, if their goal is mainly about making money through gambling. That's why gamblers are asked to gamble at a minimal duration and wager smaller funds, which they can be able to lose.
1288  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2 years old kids alone at home for hours, while the father goes gambling on: February 02, 2024, 10:24:58 AM
Ridiculous. What a crazy father he is. I also have a son around 5 years old now but the nerve, I don't dare to leave him alone in our home. It will make me panic to the highest level but the father in that story is just chillax and relax playing at the casino.

According to the story, the police found a winning ticket worth $2,000 on his house, and looks like the reason for his addiction is, that he is currently winning. I'm afraid once that person begins experiencing a losing streak, he might forget totally that he has a 2-year-old kid and won't care anymore.

That's his fault, maybe he was losing and later started winning. He's lucky he stopped gambling after winning. It could be he realized his mistakes and checked the time, then rushed back home. A man like that is not qualified to father 2 kids. He would have done the gambling online instead and watch over his kids. The children are very young and can't stay on their own. What was he thinking in the first place. His condition is core addiction. And if he begins to lose, as you said, his behavior to his family won't be nice. Good the police reprimands him and charge him to court for abusing his kids. Luckily, the kids weren't harmed by the dangerous dog. Since his wife knows about his compulsive gambling habit, I don't think it's the man's first day of leaving his kids behind all alone at home for gambling.
1289  Other / Off-topic / Re: Know when to stop on: February 02, 2024, 10:11:09 AM
then I would like to say that stop gambling when you want making money from gambling, stop gambling if you are chasing losses, stop gambling when you don't know yourself and finally stop gambling when you don't feel any pleasure from gambling anymore.

Hopefully a little helpful for your ideas OP so it's not always about the things that winning makes you difficult, but indeed doing self-introspection is a difficult thing for humans so they don't know when to do something to stop when it makes their brains work and only rely on ambition.



This is the best thing to do and  these must be in our mind cause this is the key when we stop. Technically speaking if a gambler want to gamble for profit then there's nothing he can get. Cause in gambling only those luckiest gambler who already won a jackpot then now it's a millionaire. So why you should get jealous on that we can not make big profits that can sustain our daily needs in gambling unless we are like those guys who are luckiest enough to win that jackpots.

Those who are lucky enough to win the jackpot are quite not safe from knowing when to stop. It's a mind game. Everyone is involved. Knowing when to stop in gambling is vital. Especially during a period of losses. The gambler needs to halt his urge for continuing the game. I've thought about the need to limit oneself in gambling and realized it's among the best strategies in gambling. However, due to greed of winning like other gamblers, many players have lost their sense of control to chase of losses. Which then puts the gambler on a long run of trying to achieve all his goals of winning big immediately. Those risks are not conducive for a gambler, in any way. No gambler is unique from another, in terms of winning, gamblers have almost similar chances of losses and wins. Although some may have played for quite a significant period that it's their day to win big. I think it's more of a personal experience or encounter.
1290  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Advice when you are going a bit far in gaming and betting on: February 02, 2024, 09:47:55 AM
When one who isn't focused at locating or targeting his punch is fighting, he's actually blowing the air. Such people usually losses the fight. Because they've got no target and don't have a strategy to win the game. That's why gamblers who chase losses are mainly top losers. As it's not a planned act. Most of the practitioners of the method do not execute it on purpose. I'd say it's an impulse that drags them like gravity to do those things. Gambling requires planning and sticking to those plans, if preferably cheap or economical. Staying active in our ways of wagering money and devising other method if not satisfied with the results we are getting from our previous or current strategy. Chasing on those lost money is more like going after air. Not being able to know where your moves or launches are headed. Such gamblers are not encouraged to continue repeating same strategy over and over, especially when it doesn't work as expected. The fun of gambling should be crafting out great ideas and methods.

Gamblers who chase losses typically lose sight of the game's essence. Its about process, learning, and fun, not simply money. I've always thought the best gamblers treat it like an art. They study, adapt, and know when to retreat. This thoughtful method separates wheat from chaff.

Chat about fun. Never underestimate the fun of gambling. Creating strategies, trying new methods, and enjoying a well-played hand make it enjoyable. Reassess when it stops being fun. Gambling should be exploratory, not relentless. This is smart, fun gambling.

Winnowing out the thoughts while gambling is quite a great method of gambling. At least the gambler would be able to detect the right move at a given time. What is most crucial is the ability to change ideas while in the game. Some gamblers find it hard to stop, because they've not met their target. That's wrong. If the target is hard to reach, change of idea could be the right step to take. Being pessimistic about our previous strategy before starting the game, could affect the gambler to continue losing. But the change of mind would help the gambler to know it's not in his jurisdiction to choose the outcome of his game. Hence changing his idea or thoughts to something else as, being able to stop, when not getting anything near to his target, can help him out of his troubles.
1291  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: To what extent have you hated yourself due to your gambling losses? on: February 02, 2024, 09:23:33 AM
Those experiences do occur to me but disappears after sleeping over it. The game is over, I'd remind myself. Then spend some weeks without gambling as a means of thinking of my mistakes. Because moving on to a fresh gambling session after the previous losses could be detrimental to gaming skills, and affects the emotions, which could lead to more mistakes. I've been in some situations where the money lost not only pained me, but the doubt I had on the predictions which could have landed me a win, got me worried. Gambling offers unique experiences to gamblers, and we need to understand that it's not meant to make us feel so bad of ourselves. What matters is staying responsible and maintaining our bankroll henceforth. The past moves so fast, and we have to run to the future, such that the past don't remain in our memory. Most gamblers who don't let go of their huge losses, end up wondering over the past that they forget what to do in the present.  
1292  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you believe in gambling experts predictions? on: February 02, 2024, 09:10:58 AM
A gambling expert brought i and some friends a guaranteed predicted game and asked us to stake a a high amount so that we winning could be huge and so we can give him a percentage of the money at winning.

I don't believe there could be a 100% guaranteed game but yet my friends who are eager to make profits in the gambling accepted to play the gamed as instructed and at the end of it, they all loosed the game and at then, the rest of us were happy because we didn't play the game else we would had loosed as others.

I want to ask, do you believe in experts gambling predictions?


I have been gambling for a long time but I have never seen a 100% win guarantee nor has anyone given me such a 100% guarantee. The bets I have placed may have given me a higher chance of winning but I have never gambled with the certainty that I will win the bet. Some bets are played through match fixing, the outcome of which may be 100% guaranteed, but match fixing is not always possible for gamblers.  
Gamblers who do match fixing are very big gamblers and they spend millions or billions of dollars behind fixing a match and their secrets are not known to ordinary gamblers. Therefore, it is not possible for those who are regular gamblers to be sure that they will win 100% in any gambling game or that the outcome of any bet will be 100% in their favor.
Those doing the match fixing could be leaking some information to other vendors who sell the fixed game for more profits. But the problem arises when the game changes, but not in their favor. I don't think those who fix the game always win all the time. Because another millionaire could be looking to win using the other team. So, football as it stands, remains, that anything can happen. The game makers could change and the players playing to win. Gambling can't be guaranteed 100% due to all these barriers. Hence, it's crucial for gamblers not to depend on fixed games. As most of them are genuinely lies and framed up predictions. Another disadvantage of the fixed game is that the gambler would be looking to wager huge amount of money, since the game is guaranteed to him. On the long run he'd find out he's lost it all. It's better for gamblers to stick to their personal strategy, including the spending method.
1293  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can somebody make a successful career in gambling on: February 02, 2024, 09:00:14 AM
It is not possible to earn constant income from gambling. It is never possible to have a constant profit in gambling, because if there is a profit in a few bets, there will be a possibility of loss later. In this case, there is no continuous income, so you must take alternative measures in your career where you can get a fixed amount of salary every month. To this day it is not clear to me whether any profession or career has been formed based on gambling. However, if you want to build a career in agriculture, business, workshop, etc., it is possible to build a career, but it is never possible to build a career in gambling.

Gamblers who do this don't actually depend on the money that can be made through their daily gambling activities. During my few months research on professional gamblers I realized that they actually sponsor it with their money. And focus on other beneficiaries from the casino to reduce their expenses. However, gamblers who don't have much money, but want to become a career gambler need to avoid it. Because there is not such way of making steady income in gambling. Retirees who want to enjoy their time off the cooperate world, could decide to do it via gambling for an extensive period of time. Thereby getting fun, and Aswell earning some bonuses from the casino. All this may not happen if the gambler is not keen to have some free time away from gambling. I mean the career gamblers still know when to stop gambling and take some rest.
1294  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do not gamble with Loan Money~otherwise you will be in danger like me on: February 02, 2024, 08:47:00 AM
Don't know how fast people can take loan for gambling. From your response, erep, it sounds to me like the player has the privilege or choice of taking a loan while gambling when he exhausts his funds. However, in other contexts the gambler takes the loan due to being broke and have nothing to use for gambling. So, if a means exists for taking a loan while gambling just to feel ok for the moment, gamblers may still abuse it. I could remember a member, here, thinking about setting up such services. However, the middle economy gamblers, who take loans in bits have no trouble to face during their gambling course. Since it's not much and can be replaced with their income. The trouble starts with the low earners who borrow huge amount of cash just to gamble. That's not a great method for gamblers, though, whether high or low roller.
When a gambler gambles for a long time and becomes deeply addicted to gambling, he does not hesitate to gamble with a loan for the last time. There will be very few gamblers who are interested in taking loans very quickly. I don't know how addicted the op is to gambling and why he decided to take out a loan so quickly and such a big loan. However it is admirable that he realizes his own mistake and wants to get out of gambling.  And warning others by sharing her bad experience here

That's an improvement on the Op's end which shows he's recovering from his mistakes. His thoughts may have been on making more profits with the loan. The urge of making quick money also leads to the increase of numerous gamblers who want to earn via loans. It also removes the senses of the losses in gambling, regardless of where one got their funds. A gambler who doesn't have those controls will find it very difficult to abstain from taking more loan. Even though he's having a hard time with paying back his debts. The player still goes ahead to seek for loan from other people aside his previous lenders. Soon, the amount will accumulate and become huge in his eyes, then his senses begin to creep in bit by bit. His mistakes he'll begin to realize, and ways of solving the problem may not be easy to find. Hence, he'll first want to tell other gamblers not to take that route. When in trouble, we all need to begin from somewhere. I think it's what Op is doing right now.
1295  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Risking 1% in Gambling on: February 01, 2024, 08:55:57 PM
Losing is common, not to be down bad for money, one should learn to moderate the bankroll. A gambler should be applauded for managing his funds successfully while gambling. No need in choosing the amount of money to wager, when we can't keep to it or maintain the process for a long period, not without consistency. However, gambling 1% of our income is the best gambling strategy since sliced bread. Although most gamblers have not failed to fall victim of gambling compulsively, more than they are able to lose. It provides the gambler a better control over his finances. Gamblers require some accurate means of sticking to the strategy without withdrawing, to be able to succeed in maintaining their bank roll. Going for the money puts an end to a great gambling technique. Lots of gamblers have obtained such acumen through their numerous years of gambling, but at some point, fail to keep up with the task. What then causes that, other than emotional instability.
Even though losing is normal, not many gamblers can accept their defeat, and instead, it triggers their emotions to continue gambling to recover from their losses and try to win. They can't see that they are losing so they will try even harder to win. But they will still experience defeat and may experience defeat after defeat until they realize they have made a mistake. If they finally realize their mistake and try to reduce the number of losses by placing restrictions, they can see that playing gambling requires restrictions, especially since they cannot always win from their gambling games. They will learn to control themselves more and not be tempted to chase other wins or recover from their losses. They will start to become wise gamblers after gaining various experiences, which ultimately make them realize that gambling is just entertainment that doesn't need to be taken too seriously.

Those who don't accept defeat would have to deal with the consequences of not accepting the unending losses attached to gambling activities. It's a personal decision which may have to do with multiple factors. Which we can't predict exactly why a gambler wouldn't stop gambling for some moment, after facing a spree of losses in his gambling activity. Some could be in a dilemma that eliminates the choices of being restrictive. As they're confused on ways of countering the problem gambling in them, hungrily seeking for few wins. A lot of gamblers respond to this differently, and few learns to restrict themselves, while others struggle over it and try to maintain and regulate their gambling urge. A gambler can easily change his authority over the money he earns, and hand it over to his spouse to help him manage the funds, to help them deal with the gambling difficulty. Even though, lots of gamblers, are well aware of the problem affiliated to gambling, but find it hard to ask for help from loved ones.
1296  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling addiction does more harm than mere financial loss on: February 01, 2024, 08:41:10 PM
Addiction is not good for gamblers, similar to financial loss. The later leads to addiction. Lack of control pushes gamblers to get addicted to gambling due to loss of money. However, lots of gamblers deal with financial loss, and abandon addiction. Yet that doesn't erase the chances of addiction in the gambler's life. Whatever threat the financial loss pose on the gambler, he'd have to deal with tempting urge of gaining his funds. So, if a gambler is able to restrict himself from being compulsive, his financial loss wouldn't mean a thing compared to the addicts. Gamblers who are addicted suffer from both financial loss and mental disorder. Which is dangerous to his health than what financial loss could cause him. No body will be happy recalling he, at some point in his life, was aggressive to his loved ones and caused his family pains. Such thought is harmful to the brain and could get a gambler depressed. In a nutshell, being on a safe side of financial loss is quite better than losing control and getting addicted.
1297  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is there any fun in losing while gambling on: February 01, 2024, 12:47:49 AM
I think that not gambling any longer is not a solution. For instance, if I sell my laptop and use the money to gamble and then lose it, if I stop gambling, does it take away the fact that my laptop was sold and used for gambling? Of course not. The problem remains with the gambler whether he stops or not. If he stops, he must seek another alternative, either selling another property to replace his laptop if the laptop is so important to him or borrowing money. If he borrows money, he becomes a debtor and must seek a way to pay it back. On the other hand, if he continues gambling maybe he will win. But then, instead of advocating that a gambler shouldn`t gamble anymore because of the possibility of experiencing more loss, it will be more profitable for the gambler to set a limitation and stick to it.

You are talking about extreme cases here where you say that one loses everything in gambling and he has no money left but to borrow money to gamble more. Lending money for gambling is never recommended but why the gambler reach such a situation where he has to borrow money or sell his assets ?

This means that the gambler is doing something extremely wrong that lead him to this situation. It is either he is not following any risk management or money management plan, or he to too emotional and greedy that he does not know how and when to cash out profits. Many gamblers will win in gambling but they do not handle their winnings properly, reinvest in games and then lose everything. And yes, there is no fun without money  Wink
Not stopping will make him sell another property, thereby compounding his troubles. If he stops, he wouldn't battle anymore with borrowing money or finishing his belongings for the sake of gambling. Gamblers who have decided to sell things to raise money, may not find it a happy ending if they don't win enough money. Such people are not expected to stay happy while losing. Gamblers who enjoy the process of losing, don't have anything to lose. Instead, they are winning by earning some experiences with gambling and how to manage their emotions and money. Gamblers are not governed by same mentality or aim. Everyone has his unique reason of participating in gambling. Some gamblers get the fun, while losing few funds and their time. Many others don't find it funny in any form. Differences in gambling has made it impossible for people to generalize on the effect of gambling on players.
1298  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: When I'm emotional, I LOSS! on: February 01, 2024, 12:30:33 AM
I have this problem, and based on my personal experience, I find that sometimes I get challenged but not too greedy because I don't have a problem quitting when I'm winning. However, when I'm losing, that's where my struggle lies.

This is a common problem among many gamblers, not knowing when to quit is the reason many individuals are addicted to gambling and constantly losing money when gambling. When you can't control you emotions, you'll be gambling continuously and end up being a gambling addict. When gambling don't get too emotional, quit when you're not winning and also stop playing when you're winning so you don't get too confident and lose money from greediness.

You're not disciplinary this is why you're having this problem, if you can learn self control you won't be over gambling or over staking money. Gamble with responsibleness that's the right way to gamble. Don't try to revenge your bets when you lose but gamble as a way of entertaining yourself and you won't get disappointment regardless of losing your bets. When gambling, winning isn't always the outcomes.

That's a trouble and requires extra help to make it out of the struggle. In this stage, it's no longer in his jurisdiction to stop those feelings. Since he's been feeling this way for quite a long time, opening up to people around him would be a best choice for Op. His emotions have clouded his thoughts, and he is having a hard time making decision on stopping. If his thoughts were sound and able to control the body, he'll easily wake up and stop gambling if his losses are getting countless. Hence, the player may not have any aim of why he's behaving the way he's found himself. Trying to retaliate for his money, wouldn't be the issue. It's a one-sided case. The player controls himself to stop when winning. That means he gets worried emotionally, while losing, and must win to be free from his worrisome thoughts of losing often his funds. 
1299  Other / Off-topic / Re: Having a regular/steady income is important as a gambler. on: February 01, 2024, 12:11:07 AM
I have watched a short film like this where a person who was just a businessman slowly got interested in gambling and how ended up losing everything within a couple of months. No matter how wealthy a person is. If someone cannot control themself from gambling, it will end up ruining their entire career. It's better if you do not gamble at all. But, whoever already entered there, only a few percentage of people were able to quit gambling.

If you cannot quit gambling, be responsible. Make a target that you won't gamble today if you lose $20 in this session and you will end the session if you win $50 today. The amount could depends on how wealthy you are or how much is your gambling budget is.

Addiction knows no boundary, experts or professionals are vulnerable to it. Gamblers need to stay careful at all costs, not to fail. The income earners who get addicted along the line, will most likely end up facing a hard time with their businesses. It's one of the fastest means of crumbling a business. The gambler's productivity could be affected due to the addiction in him, which won't let him focus and do the right thing. So, if the player is lacking self-control, he's expected to stay away from gambling, unless he's ready to risk the focus he's got for his work or business. Such a bankroll management, as you mentioned, is quite good and would help the gambler to have extra funds to gamble another day, whenever he feels the urge to gamble. Although it could be hard to control, but it's better to start from somewhere.

1300  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: GAMBLING DISORDER on: January 31, 2024, 11:00:02 PM
Everyone should be aware of gambling, so that all his money goes to gambling. An amount of money should be budgeted for gambling, so that the joy of gambling is not lost even if you lose. Gambling is definitely a matter of fun and enjoyment, I think gambling companies never influence a person to gamble. Everything depends on yourself in gambling. Gambling companies can never be held responsible for an individual's uncontrolled gambling play. If you feel that you are addicted to gambling then you must gradually come out of gambling. However, it is not possible for gambling addicts to completely stop gambling. Gambling addicts should gamble once in 15 days to break the addiction
Not everyone plays gambling for fun most people go into gambling because of the money they want to win from it, what i have observed from most young gamblers now are days is that they come into gambling as a result of them seeing someone who have won big money from gambling and the person is leaving well with the money might have started something good and they want to earn and be like that, which could only lead them out from the fun that gambling gives and they will end up focusing on the winning aspect which they might end up losing all the time.

Budgeting is great, whether a player is focused on getting fun or not. What is crucial in a gambler's life is being able to avoid compulsive gambling. Like Op is battling with his thoughts, and what gambling has done to him mentally. It's safe to say it's gambling, and not him. But at the initial stage when he started gambling, the blame should be on the gambler. As he was in control of himself. That's the aim of gambler, not to fail during the early stages of their gambling habit. It's a matter of self-consciousness. If Op is keen to change and doesn't want to gamble anymore, it'll take him longer time, depending on the healing method and process. The gambler's family need to also join in changing their ward's lifestyle. No need blaming the casino, being focused on getting cured is the right move expected of any gambler.
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