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1281  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season on: October 23, 2023, 04:31:45 PM
This season it looks like Union Berlin will not be as good as last season and there is no big hope for Union Berlin to stay in the UCL for long.
And next season it looks like they won't get another chance to compete in the UCL.
The Bundesliga is currently being controlled by really strong team so it will be difficult for Union Berlin to be at the top like last season when they got top four ranking.

It is natural that Napoli odds are quite profitable because the match will take place at the Berlin Olympic Stadium (Germany).
Union Berlin have lost their way this season and cannot target anything in the two best competitions they participate in, the Bundesliga and the Champions League. I thought the closest match against napoli would also end in defeat for them, even though I was surprised by their resistance in the first match against Real Madrid, they almost drew at that time. I also think that this is a very bad season for them, their performance is still inferior to promoted clubs Darmsdtadt and Heidenheim in the Bundesliga.

In group C, I think they will also find it difficult to finish in third place, and continue the season in the Europa League, something that is realistic but also seems impossible to make happen. Napoli and braga will fight for a place in the runners-up, and madrid will most likely qualify as group winners.
1282  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: October 23, 2023, 04:10:42 PM

Has anyone seen the Milan Juventus match? A match full of emotions, a red card and continue change of front, Milan who could have won with 10 men but then were defeated by tiredness. A good match and in the end my beloved Juventus even won.

I watched the game but not completely and I can say based on what I saw in this game. Juventus had a good performance when they won this game against AC Milan but still losing this match against Juventus doesn't mean AC Milan had a bad performance at all because in fact AC Milan was playing with ten players and Juventus is not a weak team.
Malick Thiaw made a fatal mistake and got a red card, Pioli must realize that Malick Thiaw is a player who can harm the team and deserves to be benched and blamed. AC Milan lost to two big teams, Inter milan and most recently juventus, which at first glance shows that they are only able to achieve victory over weaker or mediocre clubs. On the other hand, Juventus managed to take advantage of the moment of having a superior number of players, and they deserved the three points.

Milan failed to top the standings due to defeat to Juventus, and is currently in second place behind Inter, which is one point different. The next match in serie A, Milan will visit Napoli headquarters, hopefully they don't lose for the third time when they meet a fellow big club.
1283  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: October 23, 2023, 03:42:59 PM
Tonight is the night for Tottenham,if they win this which they should and they should focus 100% on this game because after so many years now they have the chance to lead the Premier League in the standings and taking the first spot there.I don't think that Fulham would put a very strong fight against them although I think they should not at all under estimate this team and as I said fight for the victory which will make them the leaders of the Premier League.

I believe many people will bet on them tonight but I am not worried,I will bet myself as the odd is satisfactory near 1.50 while they are playing at home in front of their home stadium.

This season we're watching a completely different Tottenham. Ange Postecoglou has given Tottenham the perfect touch. They haven't lost a league game this season. And they have 20 points. As you said, if they beat Fulham tonight, they will be the new league leaders. On the other hand, I think Fulham are one of the most consistent teams in this league. They are in the middle of the table. They beat Sheffield United 3-1 before the break for the national games. Tottenham are clear favorites for this match. I expect them to get a comfortable win tonight.
That's right, I have to admit that Ange Postecoglou was able to bring significant changes to Tottenham performance. It is very difficult to maintain consistent wins and be undefeated in a competition that is known as the most competitive in the world. If Arsenal had lost to Chelsea yesterday, Tottenham would have been the only club unbeaten in the EPL, but this will be clearer after the match versus Fulham in the next few hours.

On paper I have no doubts about Tottenham, having seen what they did to Man United and Liverpool previously. I think acting as host is very beneficial, I don't think this match will end in a draw. Let's hope they avoid failing to manage excessive self-confidence, it will cost them points.
1284  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread on: October 23, 2023, 03:22:08 PM
With the level of competition in the German Bundesliga this season, Bayern Munich knows that this season wouldn't be business as usual whereby they'll still end up with the German title even when they're not playing at their best.
Bayer Leverkusen, Stuttgart and Borussia Dortmund has really been up and doing this season and are very strong contenders to win the league that's been won by Bayern Munich in the last 11 years. So Bayern already knows how every point counts and must always be at their best to stand a chance of winning the league this season
I really enjoy the Bundesliga competition this season, I think 11 consecutive seasons winning the trophy is extraordinary and very difficult for other clubs to surpass. Munchen still remains at the forefront of the list of favorites for this season, along with Laverkusen, VfB and Dortmund, even though Thomas Tuchel squad is currently in third place in the standings. On the other hand, Harry Kane is still behind in scoring goals from Sehrou Guirassy who currently leads the top scorer list, but I think Kane is able to adapt quickly.

The Bundesliga has only been running for eight weeks, and there hasn't been a big points gap yet. I think it would be quite interesting if the top four standings continued as they are now until the end of the season, meaning it would be very competitive and full of rivalry. Regarding who will become champion, I think it would be better this time for someone other than Munchen, so that the Bundesliga is no longer labeled as the Farmers League.
1285  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: October 23, 2023, 09:58:48 AM
I'm not sure how much a team should spend for a palyer like Jesse Lingard but it seems this palyer is expensive even for the Saudi teams and they don't want to spend too much money for this palyer.
Jesse Lingard was recently playing for Manchester United, Nottingham Forest, and West Ham but he had poor performance after 2021 and he scored only two goals in the 20 games.
I don't see any reason for Nottingham Forrest need to keep Lingard, they should accept any amount that other club has interest want to sign him. His contract is near to end and they might get nothing since Lingard will become a free agent.

I think Al Ettifaq only want Lingard popularity, that's why they interested with him.
Saudi Arabia teams are collecting famous players regardless of their ages but also talented players and those who could still help them achieve their goals on winning domestic and international titles.
El-Ettifaq don't have many good and shining names like the other top teams in Saudi Pro League. Their defeat vs Al-Riyadh prove that they need to consolidate more their squad. Jesse Lingard would be a good choice if they could help them being more stable.
SPL clubs that are funded directly by the Public Investment Fund (PIF) will not have to worry about the budget that must be spent to recruit Jesse Lingard. They have abundant funds to make transfers which sometimes seem unreasonable. They want to build the SPL instantly, and whether the players are good or not is not a big issue, what is important at the moment is the players big names.

Regarding Al Ettifaq, they have fewer former European players than other SPL clubs, Jordan Henderson is not enough to help Steven Gerrard squad navigate the increasingly competitive competition at the moment. In the next transfer market, I think they will return to hunt for more players, of course from the top five European leagues.
1286  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: October 22, 2023, 06:53:22 PM
Now Lionel Messi has denied the rumors circulating involving him with Barcelona. As we know, there are rumors that Barcelona wants Lionel Messi to return to the Blaugrana on loan from Inter Miami. But Lionel Messi feels he is having a good season with Inter Miami and he is very happy to be there. Lionel Messi also added that he wants to continue having a competitive season next season and wants to experience other extraordinary moments with Inter Miami.

I think with a statement like that it's quite clear that he won't be going anywhere even until February next year and he will stay at Inter Miami. I think Barcelona should give up and let Lionel Messi be happy with his new family at Inter Miami. Besides, what are they still looking for, will Barcelona, by being able to get a loan from Lionel Messi, be able to make money again and is that really their initial goal? What do you think?

Source: https://twitter.com/FabrizioRomano/status/1716151482054001011
I think Messi won't be going anywhere until his contract with Inter Miami is finished, amidst rumors that Barcelona wants to recruit him back to Camp Nou, and I think these rumors are very unreasonable at the moment. Messi has only played 14 matches for Inter Miami and managed to score 11 goals and 5 assists, he feels he has not made enough of a maximum contribution to the team, so choosing to stay and start the next season by winning a trophy will be his priority at this time.

I think it would be better for Messi to stay and finish his contract at Inter Miami first, and think about Barcelona after. With this statement, I think I can answer all the speculation regarding his future, so there will be no more talk about Messi and Barcelona transfer for the time being.
1287  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: October 22, 2023, 06:23:47 PM
Chelsea are slowly coming back to their senses. After the transfers made in the first six weeks and the change of manager, a good performance was expected from Chelsea, but after the seventh week Chelsea started to come back to their senses and started to make their fans happy.
Chelsea have slightly improved, nothing great, but at least something for their fans to cheer about. It is easy to see that this Chelsea team are yet to blend together, individually they have very good players, but they are pretty poor as a team. Chelsea ought to have made a big statement in beating Arsenal yesterday, but you could see how easy it was for Arsenal to get back in the game from two goals down (even if they were poor throughout the game).

This Chelsea team isn't capable of winning any trophy yet, or even make it into the top four, they have quite a lot of work to do if they are to return to their previous standards, and it would take a long while to get there.
The Blues are not well organized and this was very clear in the match against Arsenal yesterday, however, they did not lose to Arsenal, I think that is enough for the fans. Considering that Pochettino is still experimenting a lot with his formation, and has not yet found the right standard to fill the starting XI due to the storm of player injuries that has not yet completely ended. On the other hand, I think it will take quite a long time to build the desired squad, especially if it is dominated by young players.

Pochettino can breathe a little sigh of relief over the improvement in his squad performance, but there is still a need for a lot of improvement in every line. I'm really looking forward to the debut of their striker christopher nkunku, reportedly he will be available soon and I hope he's better than nicolas jackson. At least it can help Chelsea get closer to the top four in the standings, even though this seems quite difficult.
1288  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season on: October 22, 2023, 05:57:42 PM
Bayern Munchen, Real Madrid, Man City and Barcelona managed to wipe out the previous two matches with wins and lead their respective groups. I'm quite curious about their next steps on matchday 3 tomorrow, even though on paper all four clubs have the opportunity to repeat their success. However, it is possible that one or two of the clubs mentioned above could draw or suffer their first defeat in the UCL this season. On the other hand, the third matchday matches will further shape the standings in each group with a point gap, and at the same time will emphasize the runnerup position as well.

I'm really looking forward to surprises in several other matches too, such as Man United against Copenhagen, PSG against Milan and Inter against RB Salzburg. Group D and Group E have very tight competition, to fight for the top of the standings.
1289  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2023/24 on: October 22, 2023, 05:24:55 PM
Girona going from a two goals down in the first half of the game to scoring three goals within seven minutes to lead the game, was really epic, I mean one would think girona would only struggle to equalize the two goals or at worse get just a goal since they are playing from home but then they gave a brilliant and epic come back which was real jaw dropping.

By the second half of the match they led by five goals, they really performed excellently without any form of doubt, they maintained a good mentality amidst their loosing in the early hours of the first half of the game, they got a come back and won in that energy wit a good margin, I this has to be the most interesting and epic game of the week in the la Liga, they did not only get the full points they aswell went ahead to lead with good goal difference, it's a commendable performance and I hope they stay consistent.
Girona was unstoppable and again managed to secure full points over Almeria with a final score of 5-2 in Week 10 of La Liga this season. This success was able to bring them to the top of the standings below real madrid even though they both collected 25 points due to the difference in goals. I am quite impressed with their performance so far and maybe I'm not the only one who feels this way, Girona has managed to surpass ATM and Barcelona in points for a while. On the other hand, the defeat against Girona made Almeria sink to the bottom of the standings, and so far in the 10 matches they have played they have not won one.

If they can continue to be consistent this season, girona could have the potential to finish in the top four standings at the end of the season and appear in the UCL next season. However, it is still too early to say, what is clear is that they must be able to compete and avoid defeat when they meet big clubs, that is already extraordinary I think.
1290  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Saudi Professional League 2023/2024 on: October 22, 2023, 04:47:25 PM
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It cannot be denied that sooner or later increasing age becomes a frightening threat to the quality of a player, and Benzema is no exception. Of course, we will not forget his performance while still playing for Real Madrid, so that he became the best player by winning the Ballon D'or. However, I will not blame Benzema in the Al Ittihad versus Al Tawoon match, because after all, every player has the potential to make mistakes, including Benzema.

There are still 24 matches left in the SPL, and anything is still possible. It is certainly very difficult for the clubs at the top of the standings to remain consistent by sweeping 24 matches with a win. So I think the standings will continue to change every week, the opportunity for Al Ittihad to win a trophy is still open.
It's inevitable for any player, not just Benzema, and only time will tell. Apart from all that I also still appreciate him, even though he is relatively old but he is still able to compete. Because not infrequently I see players whose age is still young they cannot improve their performance or even decline faster than they should.
Sooner or later we will definitely not see him play anymore and decide to retire, something that must happen to every player.
My only question is, is he interested in becoming a coach after retiring? It's worth waiting for.
I think Benzema seems interested in trying his luck by becoming a coach. I once read some local news regarding Benzema desire to enter the managerial world after deciding to retire as a professional player. If I'm not mistaken, Benzema aspires to be like Zidane, who successfully managed Madrid and succeeded in winning the Champions League. However, I think it will take a long time for that to happen, because Benzema is still under contract with Al Ittihad until June 2026.

Source : https://www.goal.com/id/berita/karim-benzema-pelatih-real-madrid/1f0b4ex0sg8u31euajxyi5skn8
1291  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2023/24 on: October 22, 2023, 07:16:10 AM
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I don't know what to call yesterday's match against Sevilla but it is closed to a disappointment from Real Madrid to have draw in that match. I was really expecting a win. Bellingham was not lucky yesterday neither was Vinicius and Rodrigo. I was expecting a goal from each of these players aforementioned but none could deliver until when Carvajal scored for Real Madrid. I feel like the team could have performed better than they did because they were in a full squad yesterday but that's the game of football, most times it works like gambling.
It's true that Bellingham, Vinicius and Rodrygo were unlucky, I also hope one of them can score. However, we also have to appreciate Sevilla goalkeeper Orjan Nyland, who was impressive in that match. The match was quite intense, but I liked Ancelotti statement that the match was full of irony, and the referee was considered not to have made the best decision. Another interesting fact is that Alaba scored an own goal for the first time during his professional career, and Ramos faced Madrid for the first time after leaving.

Despite the draw, Madrid is still in first place in the La Liga standings with a total of 25 points, it is likely that Girona will be equaled if they win over Almeria. In fact, ATM also has the opportunity to stick with Madrid at the top because they still have one match postponed in the fourth week against Sevilla. I am waiting for dark horse Girona to take action in the next few hours.
1292  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: October 22, 2023, 06:48:12 AM
I thought last night Chelsea would win against Arsenal but it seems that this advantage was not enough for Chelsea to prevent them from conceding and Arsenal managed to equalize through goals scored by Declan Rice and Lesandro Trossard. Even though Chelsea could have achieved 3 points at home, they failed to do so and conceded in the final minute. This is definitely a pretty good result for Arsenal even though they failed to widen the gap and they have the same points as Manchester City this time.

Maybe both of them have the same points and are at the top of the standings, but the dreamer will actually start his match today, of course Spurs will try to win at home and seeing their city team play a draw, they will definitely be happy because they have the opportunity to widen the gap. Spurs must win if they don't want Arsenal and Manchester City to start dominating next week.
From another perspective, Chelsea managed to put on a performance that surprised everyone, by winning by two goals first over Arsenal. Meanwhile, Arsenal who are too favored, almost suffered their first defeat this season, the comeback made by the Gunners saved them from defeat. Here we need to underline that even though Chelsea started the season badly, Arsenal will not necessarily be able to beat them easily, because after all the Blues are not a mediocre club. On the other hand, Arsenal, who had too high expectations, almost failed to manage their self-confidence well. I quite enjoyed the match between the two, it went quite naturally, there were lots of blunders, failures and mistakes in finishing the final opportunities. This is a match that gives us the space to see something go wrong, it's very interesting.

It's true that in a few hours the standings will potentially change again, if Tottenham are able to beat Fulham, on paper Ange Postecoglou men can handle it very well. Another match is Aston Villa versus West Ham, a match which, if won by Aston, will shift Newcastle from fifth place in the standings.
1293  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: October 21, 2023, 10:01:22 PM
Inter Milan winning Torino happens to be their fifth consecutive win this season in the serie A, through out the whole game they dominated, had a better possession of the bal then Torino did and even in goal attempts they were ahead, it was a really easy win for them but then it didn't stress them that much, they had their first goal in the 59th minutes of the match.
This time, Inter did their best. Their performance is also as good as before. After failing and only drawing last week's match, this time, their mutual victory against Torino was truly satisfying. At least, this time they didn't waste another opportunity. Finally, for a while at least, they were able to excel in first place. If Milan draws or loses against Juventus later, this will strengthen Inter's position in top standing.

Likewise, Napoli are finally on track, playing well too. After several previous matches, they were considered pessimistic because of several surprising failures in matches.
That right, Inter recorded a promising victory over Torino and took over the top of the standings temporarily from eternal rival AC Milan. Yes, the leader of the standings will be determined by the match between Milan and Juventus, however Milan cannot draw, let alone lose, if they want to return to the top of the table. Lautarao Martinez is unstoppable, and currently leads the Serie A top scorer list with a total of 11 goals in 9 matches.

Regarding Napoli victory, I think Rudi Garcia is a little out of the pressure, although not completely. Even though Osimhen was not strengthened, Khvicha Kvaratskhelia was very reliable because he managed to score two goals for Napoli victory.
1294  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread on: October 21, 2023, 09:46:18 PM
The Bundesliga has entered its eighth week, and in fact Bayern Munchen has not been able to take over the top of the standings. Because Laverkusen and VfB performed impressively by winning, so both of them are still above Munchen in the points table for the time being. However, the points gap is so narrow that a club that will experience a defeat or draw in the following week will be overtaken in one match. I quite enjoy the competition in the top four of the Bundesliga standings this season, although I realize that sooner or later Munchen will take over the top of the standings from Laverkusen, but I don't think so in the near future.

The remaining two matches in week eight of the Bundesliga will not threaten the top four positions in the standings:

Koln vs Monchengladbach

Heidenheim vs Augsburg

Koln is still slumped at the bottom of the standings, while Monchengladbach is in 12th position. It's quite easy to predict that Koln won't be able to do much despite acting as hosts. Likewise with the other match, Heidenheim seems to be able to overcome Augsburg easily. However, surprises can happen and my predictions can be wrong.
1295  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: October 21, 2023, 09:22:38 PM
There are two matches left in the ninth week of the English Premier League:

Aston Villa vs West Ham

Statistically, Aston Villa has performed slightly better than West Ham. What is clear is that this match is difficult to predict. Even though on paper Aston Villa can get three points because they act as hosts, of course this will not be easy.

Tottenham vs Fulham

This match is very important for Tottenham and very decisive, Tottenham has the opportunity to reclaim the top of the standings and extend the winning trend. On the other hand, if they fail, Tottenham will suffer their first defeat of the season in the EPL, but I predict Tottenham can secure full points.
1296  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Saudi Professional League 2023/2024 on: October 21, 2023, 06:07:27 PM
Benzama scored one of his usual goals with a header. He scored his goal in the 22nd minute, it was clear from the previous events that he would score this goal. Then, Al Taawoun scored from a corner kick and the same header, and the goals were scored one after the other. There were many more goals that Karim Benzama could have scored, but he could not score the other goal.

Clearly, a bad result for both teams on the way to the championship is not a score that will please anyone. I guess it was a strange match as Karim Benzama played for both teams today, I don't understand Cheesy

This Karim Benzema we see in the Saudi League is not like the Benzama in Real Madrid and he is not even near to it. Benzama is getting old and he can't have good performance anymore. otherwise, a player like Benzema is a team like Al Ittihad to win the Saudi League title while there is currently a six-point gap between them and first place of the league.

There has been a decline in Benzema's performances as he gets older, but despite his decline, it's not significant in the sense that his performance is still within standard limits and he still deserves to be in the main squad.
We also can't always expect him to perform well forever, because ups and downs in performance are a certainty in football. Especially when age eats into his performance from time to time, he also has more injuries now, although the injury is relatively mild but it is still a bad sign for him.
It cannot be denied that sooner or later increasing age becomes a frightening threat to the quality of a player, and Benzema is no exception. Of course, we will not forget his performance while still playing for Real Madrid, so that he became the best player by winning the Ballon D'or. However, I will not blame Benzema in the Al Ittihad versus Al Tawoon match, because after all, every player has the potential to make mistakes, including Benzema.

There are still 24 matches left in the SPL, and anything is still possible. It is certainly very difficult for the clubs at the top of the standings to remain consistent by sweeping 24 matches with a win. So I think the standings will continue to change every week, the opportunity for Al Ittihad to win a trophy is still open.
1297  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: October 21, 2023, 05:22:50 PM
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I can't really sure to if lazio will able to win against sassuolo. I knew sassuolo as a giant killer. Lazio needs to be careful when facing sassuolo if it will not wanna have the same fate as intermilan. Sassuolo was playing so badly against garbage team but it was surprisingly played better once it was going to face a strong club in serie a. I don't even know what's happening with sassuolo but i think that if this club may have a secret strategy to face the strong club. Im not feeling optimistic if lazio will be able to win against sassuolo. Sassuolo was not that good this season but it does have great potential to enter into the top 10. May we see another surprise to come? we will see that.
If you look at the percentage Lazio has a chance of winning (38%) and Sassuolo (35%), while for a draw (27%). Overall the strength between the two is quite balanced, and the fact is that currently both have the same number of points on the Serie A standings, just at different levels. If you look at the performance of both of them this season, neither Lazio nor Sassuolo have appeared consistently winning, but each of them has pulled off surprises before.

Lazio managed to beat Napoli 2-1 in the third week, while what was even more surprising was that Sassuolo managed to beat two elite clubs, Juventus and Inter Milan. I think the title of big team killer deserves to be given to Sassuolo, and I predict they will win this match, because they will act as hosts.
1298  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: October 21, 2023, 04:57:27 PM
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Liverpool was lucky enough because Everton's Asley Young was sent off in the first half, even though he couldn't score, it seemed that in the second half Liverpool would win with two goals from Salah.
Liverpool are now title challengers, it has been proven that their game is now consistent with quite good wins, Klopp has full confidence that his entire squad can take a very good position in the Premier League.
Leverpool achieved an important victory in the opening match of the ninth week of the EPL after the international break, Everton was unable to provide significant resistance against Liverpool because they had to play with 10 men. The Reds controlled the game and dominated ball possession and shots on goal statistics, the match ended 2-0 and Salah managed to score two goals for Liverpool victory.

Currently, Jurgen Klopp squad has managed to collect 20 points, and its position in the standings really depends on the results of Chelsea match against Arsenal. Meanwhile, Everton is stuck in 16th position in the standings. Next Liverpool will face Toulouse in the Europa League group phase, I think this match will be even easier for The Reds to win, armed with the victory over Everton increased their confidence and mentality.
1299  Local / Ekonomi, Politik, dan Budaya / Re: Sulitnya Mengedukasi Masyarakat Untuk Menolak Amplop Para Calon! on: October 21, 2023, 04:08:39 PM
1. Karena rata-rata masyarakat yang berada di bawah garis kemiskinan lebih banyak dari pada masyarakat kelas menengah ke atas, ada banyak sekali tantangan yang di hadapi untuk mengedukasi masyarakat supaya memiliki prinsip dan moral yang bagus untuk menyikapi dan menolak money politic.

2. Pemerintah seharusnya memperbaiki setidaknya tiga lembaga terlebih dahulu, Komisi Pemilihan Umum (KPU), Badan Pengawas Pemilu (BAWASLU), dan Dewan Kehormatan Penyelenggara Pemilu (DKPP). Masyarakat akan mengikuti dengan sendirinya jika tiga lembaga yang terlibat langsung dalam penyelenggaraan pemilu tersebut sudah bersikap jujur dan adil.

3. kemungkinan Money politic berakhir di Indonesia pasti ada, namun tidak dalam waktu dekat. Sebab saya kira selama aturan hukum tidak berjalan dengan semestinya hal tersebut sangat sulit bi berantaskan.
1300  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Europa League 2023/24 Season on: October 21, 2023, 12:09:43 PM
Teams in the Europa League had better just wish that Sevilla don't come down here.  Grin  You know how dominant Sevilla have been in the Europa League. They are even called as the king of the Europa League for their achievements so far. Sevilla are such an interesting team that they can still win this title even if they have a bad season in the La Liga.

Last season must be a great example for that. Mourinho has an incomplete job to do against them as well. If you remember he was really angry at Anthony Taylor after the finale last season. If Roma and Sevilla find each other here once again then that matchup could be really interesting.  Grin

Sevilla be acting as if Europa League is their heritage sometimes I even feel like they Deliberately plan to fall out from champions league so that they can come and oppress teams in the europa league.

A lot of teams are afraid whenever sevilla comes to Europa League because of their outstanding performance for some seasons now and they are always very active when it comes to Europa League even if they ain't doing too well in  La Liga
I have to agree with you regarding Sevilla, they are like kings in the Europa League competition, no different from Madrid in the UCL competition. Having the status as the club that has won the most European League trophies, Sevilla does have a strong mentality to compete with other clubs if they are actually eliminated in group B of the European Champions League this season. If you look at the current situation, Sevilla does have a chance to finish in third place in group B, behind Arsenal and Lens.

On the other hand, the favorite clubs in the European League this season are quite strong, but I think the favorite is Liverpool. Even though other clubs such as West Ham, Laverkusen and others cannot be underestimated, however the Europa League scenario could change significantly if Sevilla really returns, of course their performance will be very different to that in La Liga.
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