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1281  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: [Q&A] Tanya Jawab Seputar Forum Disini/Ask about this forum here! on: January 02, 2021, 05:11:40 PM
Ijin bertanya senior, mohon pencerahannya.

Ane kan mulai di btctalk ini tahun 2014, terus vakum beberapa tahun karna kerja. Terus mulai lagi lah aktif sekarang. Dari sebelum vakum itu ane uda legendary, terus awal awal mulai kemarin, ane hapusin beberapa postingan yang nda penting menurut ane, tbtb rank ane turun ke hero. Ada peraturan baru ya gan mengenai penurunan rankny?
1282  Other / Meta / Re: Can we, forum users, affect the bitcoin price? on: January 02, 2021, 04:58:10 PM
The price is not determined simply by supply and demand any more. Large transactions are performed via p2p movements, and not by exchanges. The price seems to be an average of sales via exchanges, and they seem to be subject to whale manipulation and speculative pressures.

Doesn't this manipulation and speculative pressure also result in the total supply and demand in the market?  if I think it still culminates in supply and demand as well.  However high speculation in the market is, what will determine the price in the market is the supply and demand.  No matter how fast the investor wants to make a profit, what is done is the buy option and the sell option.  There are no other options.  Why do prices go up because of high demand, why do prices go down because the supply is higher.  When asked why supply and demand are high, there are several reasons that are commonly used.  It could be for fundamental reasons and technical reasons.  If you direct the market price to be influenced by speculation it looks like that is the only motive of investors in owning bitcoin.
1283  Other / Off-topic / Re: What are your plans in the year 2021 on: January 01, 2021, 11:20:24 AM
My plan this year I want to get a new job soon, I want to hold my bitcoins to make my first 100,000 USD, I want to buy a new car to take all my family for a long walk without having to be afraid if it rains, I want to take a mortgage for a new house so  Don't experience flooding anymore, I want to make Hajj savings for my parents starting this year, I also want to get married this year.  hahaha, this is my first time writing my life resolution for this year.  I hope everything I can achieve.  Starting a new job and still actively contributing to forums and increasing knowledge in Cryptocurrency so that I don't have to work 8 hours a day at the office and become a true crypto trader.
1284  Economy / Economics / Re: I lost my job, how about you guys? on: January 01, 2021, 10:09:07 AM
So hope with vaccine could bring back this pandemic gone and you can get your job back and free to go any where.

A doctor in my country said that vaccines will not eliminate this pandemic because vaccines only function to slow the spread, so a health protocol is still needed to really minimize the spread to a minimum.  Since the pandemic emerged until the arrival of a vaccine in my country, the case of covid in this country is still increasing.  So cooperation between the government and the community is urgently needed to solve this pandemic.
1285  Economy / Economics / Re: Second lockdown due to covid19 is painful on: January 01, 2021, 09:50:36 AM
So, who do we blame here for the vaccine not getting distributed after it was confirmed it has a 90% cure rate? Pfizer has made the vaccine, yet countries aren't getting it. Sometimes, happenings like this make one think that there's more to this than meets the eye. Honestly, you can't help but draw that conclusion. Is the virus story a way for these leaders to drastically reduce the world population without looking murderous? And at the same time make wealth for a selected few. I am beginning to think in that direction, frankly.

There is no one to blame, but in this desperate situation people will start thinking about things like this, why did the government let go?  Is this a step to reduce the population?  Several times I thought the same thing.  When will this pandemic end?  Recently news about the development of a virus that is getting more and more virulent, with a very fast spreading speed, even a vaccine will not be able to eradicate this virus.  If this omission is really done by the officials of the country, they really deserve to be blamed.
1286  Economy / Economics / Re: Second lockdown due to covid19 is painful on: December 30, 2020, 04:14:40 PM
Corruption is definitely one of the worst things about this situation. We are dying, people are literally dying right now and governments are basically trying to hide the real numbers in many nations and try to get as much money from this excess economy as they can.

Yes, it's the worst among the bad ones.  What is the proper punishment for those who steal in the midst of a natural disaster?  is he still worthy to live?  At a time when all countries are coping with the pandemic in a decisive way, one of the main ministers who administered aid funds for the public during the pandemic is corrupting covid-19 funds in my country.  Since that is the behavior of the representatives of the people today.  The hardest gets harder, the hungry die of hunger.  And officials remain rich because of their positions.
1287  Economy / Economics / Re: Life is debt on: December 30, 2020, 04:01:25 PM
Your view of life is debt, it is a picture of yourself living under pressure.  I totally disagree if my life is in debt.  However, I also don't blame your opinion because every opinion is the result of the thoughts of everyone who has been through many things.  My version of life is a gift that must be appreciated, debt is only a small part of life.  If life is all about business, your life is black and white.  Gain or lose.  There is gray in this life.  Don't think life is too much a debt, because you will be burdened with your own concept.  Debt is an obligation that you must pay off.
1288  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: How to lose your Bitcoins with CTRL-C CTRL-V on: December 30, 2020, 03:30:38 PM
My suspicions have been answered, so far when transferring Btc or similar transactions, I have never even been confident with just one click ctrl + c and ctrl + v then I just send it.  Before making a transaction I sometimes even check the link many times at least 3 times before I actually send it.  It turns out that my intuition is very useful to protect me from cases like this.
1289  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: Kabar gembira untuk bitcoin saat ini on: December 29, 2020, 06:02:34 PM
Tapi kalau memang bitcoin ke depannya dijadikan alat transaksi yang legal tentu kita harus siap dengan pajak yang akan dipungut dari setiap transaksi pembayaran yang kita lakukan dengan menggunakan bitcoin. Lebih baik bitcoin jangan disahkan sebagai alat transaksi cukup sebgai assets untuk simpanan atau hanya sebatas trading saja karena akan banyak oknum atau pihak2 yang memanfaatkan jika bitcoin benar - benar menjadi alat transaksi legal untuk membuat situs investasi bodong, apalagi minat masyarakat kita sangat besar terhadap situs dan website investasi bodong saat ini.

Jika dilihat gan, kemungkinan disahkannya sangat kecil seperti pendapat gan @ShowOff 0,5% atau bahkan lebih kecil lagi. Jangankan mengubah undang-undang terkait larangan penggunaan selain Rupiah sebagai alat tukar, untuk meredenominasi Rupiah saja sangat banyak penolakan apalagi untuk merevisi undang-undang. Pemerintah bukan abai terhadap Btc, bahkan sudah dilegalkan sebagai komoditi saja sudah cukup baik. Akan sangat sulit menciptakan regulasi terkait penggunaan alat tukar yang sah selain Rupiah di Indonesia, belum lagi masalah-masalah yang akan ditimbulkan kedepannya. Indonesia negara yang cukup korup, akan sangat mungkin nantnya semakin banyak mafia dalam Btc seperti kasus pencucian uang dll. Untuk saat ini, sepertinya BTC juga sudah setara seperti emas dan masyarakat sudah bebas memilikinya sebagai investasi, apalagi yang kurang kan? Grin
1290  Economy / Economics / Re: which will u choose to buy on: December 29, 2020, 05:04:44 PM
I know that there are lot of people who are so dumb that if they are given that kind of money they will first rush to buy Ferrari,

Don't call the person who chose Ferarri dumb, maybe for us the investment is more important, but if it's open I am sure there are still many people who choose Ferarri not because they are stupid, but they choose to buy the social. class. We just think like investors, but not everyone thinks that way. You are wise only with your thoughts.
1291  Economy / Economics / Re: Some Company are holding more than 10000 Bitcoin on: December 29, 2020, 03:42:16 PM
That mt.gox one scares me the most out of any of them. they WILL sell it soon, so this is why I think it is quite important to realize we will get a big crash because of that, maybe even soon who knows, because that will be sold to cover the debt and that is a big deal. When that happens, we need to be ready for it and need to buy it from them, otherwise they will dump it.

Talking about MT Gox it would make a lot of sense if in the future the Bitcoin price could drop because they were shortselling it to meet their interests. Remembering the dark past of those who have so far been in debt due to their own negligence. The price of Bitcoin which continues to rise to more than 25k USD can be one of their alternatives to pay off their debt by selling their entire BTC and such actions can collapse the price of BTC, and the ones who suffer the heaviest losses are single investors. However, the best thing right now is to be clever at seeing the situation on issues that arise in the market.
1292  Economy / Economics / Re: Second lockdown due to covid19 is painful on: December 29, 2020, 02:41:26 PM
In my country, there has been no lockdown since the emergence of this pandemic.  The government only makes large-scale social restrictions to deal with the pandemic.  For the development of Covid-19 which has mutated in the UK and spread again to several countries, the government in my country limits the foreigners who come.  Maybe what will have an impact is on the tourism side which yesterday started to return to normal but was restricted again because visitors from outside countries were prohibited from visiting my country.
1293  Economy / Economics / Re: Loans are cheap good time to use loans for Investment in btc on: December 28, 2020, 04:24:16 PM
Is there any platform that's give people free loan?
Well to be honest, there is.

But the requirement is really strict such as you must have fixed job with more than like $1000/month as an income for an example or you have to make some sort of agreement with the lender such as send your passport or your residential address etc. Compared to other type of loans, this type of free loan is really risky and they might use your data for their own benefit since you can not control it.

Some are without any guarantee, but you must have a fixed salary and are immediately deducted per month to pay the installments. Even the interest is slightly higher than that of banks or other cooperatives. In my country, usually it is in "cooperative" loans to state civil servants or permanent employees of BUMN.
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1295  Economy / Economics / Re: All people in the real world still think everything is fine !!! on: December 28, 2020, 03:52:36 PM
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Maybe you can explain to those who understand and are interested in your thinking first. Because without equality of wants and needs, it may be difficult to explain to others what you think. When it is in line, then you can explain in detail why your opinion is worthy of being followed. You also need to prove to them what you say is true on the basis of science, and practice in the field. You need people who think your equal to win their hearts.

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That’s simply impossible task mate, they’re completely Pavlov Dogged to the point they become numb, market crash come back every ten years I’d said it again next would be 2028-2030 this is a event of guaranteed happening there is all the social economical reason the crisis strike, because gender behaviour is based on this cycle and that this cycle just work like a cult mentality and market then crash, a market that work based on ponzi and printed money, a bubble popping in ten years it’s well known to them they just won’t take action, blasphemy, completely over for the Real World, the Pavlovian theory perfect example.


I don't understand what your real purpose is to remind them. If your goal really sincerely saves them from the bad possibilities that you think of, then there is no way that I offer you will consider it impossible. Nothing is impossible in this world except death. Even people with disabilities like Nick Vujicic can do whatever normal people do. You complain too easily and think about what other people suggest is impossible. Even so easily you declare a human who rejects you like "Pavlov dog". Don't confuse human behavior with dog behavior. Humans have intellect whereas dogs just follow instincts. The human mind is not as simple as dog behavior as Pavlov's theory. If you are a Pavlov follower, perhaps your behavior is the same as in the experiment. Don't yell at other people, if you never have the same needs and wants as that person. You don't even know what that person actually thinks, other people have their own way of thinking. If you impose your thinking, match your needs, and wants with others first.
1296  Economy / Economics / Re: All people in the real world still think everything is fine !!! on: December 27, 2020, 06:15:53 PM
Maybe you can explain to those who understand and are interested in your thinking first. Because without equality of wants and needs, it may be difficult to explain to others what you think. When it is in line, then you can explain in detail why your opinion is worthy of being followed. You also need to prove to them what you say is true on the basis of science, and practice in the field. You need people who think your equal to win their hearts.
1297  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: Kabar gembira untuk bitcoin saat ini on: December 27, 2020, 04:47:02 PM
Tidak banyak kabar yang saya tahu mengenai tax exchange ini om, apakah pemerinta telah memungut atau hanya pajak perusahaan saja ( bukan dari fee dan uang yang beredar di exchange). -snip-
Dari yang pernah saya baca pada salah satu artikel di situs www.pajak.go.id, ambil contoh Indodax/Bitcoin.co.id sedari 2016* lalu sudah menambahkan PPN (Pajak Pertambahan Nilai) sebesar 10% untuk semua biaya transaksi jual-beli maupun withdraw yang dilakukan di situs Indodax tersebut.

* Referensi: https://www.pajak.go.id/id/artikel/menangkap-momentum-popularitas-bitcoin

Itu PPN dihitungnya dari biaya transaksinya atau volumenya ya berarti? Soalnya kalau 10% dari volume kayaknya kok besar banget, berarti trade 100 juta bakal kena 10 juta. Ane yakin bakal banyak protes kalau ini benar sih, mengingat aset lain pajaknya kayaknya ga segede ini cmiiw.

Jika dilihat langsung dari situs Indodax saat ini, fee untuk withdraw sebesar 0,5% dari total penarikan tetapi minimal biaya nya 25k.



Mungkin yang dimaksud PPN sebesar 10% dihitung dari keseluruhan transaksi yang ada di situs Indodax lalu dibagikan rata ke semua pengguna, bukan ke perorangan. Karna pastilah banyak yang protes kalo beneran 10% dari transaksi perorangan.
1298  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Success comes after failure. on: December 27, 2020, 04:33:34 PM
Successful people come after experiencing failure or we often say that those who are successful must have failed, but people who fail are not necessarily successful. There is still a process that must be undertaken after experiencing failure or it is often termed learning from failure. There are many newbies who have not received merit or fail to get merit because they never learned from their experience, or they are just persistent but never introspecting on whether my posts are quality or not. Merit will only be given with posts that match the qualifications, I, who have been in this forum for a long time and have been on hiatus for several years, feel what newbies feel about getting merit, but I realize why it is difficult for me to get merit because maybe my posts still do not meet the qualifications, and have to be better in the future. The key is not just how persistent you are to keep posting but how much you improve the quality of your posts.
1299  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Little But From My Heart [Christmas Gift] on: December 27, 2020, 03:47:15 PM
Sharing on Christmas Day is beautiful, but it will be more meaningful if you share it with people who deserve it. Merit also has rules to give, not just because you want to help newbies, you forget what qualifications you must have to be worthy of being awarded a merit. Not only seeing a large number of posts but from the posts, whether they are useful for the forum or not. If not, I hope you don't give him.
1300  Economy / Gambling / Re: Prediction Market Bot? on: December 26, 2020, 05:04:04 PM
I'm still confused about how this bot works to predict the technicalities? If there are certain basics by which to predict the market then this bot will be of interest to me. Is this bot also free? if the bot is free it will be much more interesting. Moreover, if this bot can calculate the probability percentage based on the math odds calculation, it can be exciting. Too much is my wish, haha maybe because I'm interested in this bot.
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