Perhaps point out to here that some good money can be made via mining, with generally LESS time investment into it than most other jobs that can match the income level?

 Even COUNTING the time I spend on Bitcoin.Talk, I'm currently pulling in at least $45/hour with my mining operation - and if I DIDN'T count the time I spend on here, that would at least $130.

SIngle slot width FULL size cards are very restrictive on their cooling - reference the PhillipMa1957 thread where he talks about using some of the Katana 1070 cards and their heat issues.
Low profile cards are EVEN MORE restrictive on the cooling they can manage.
Low profile single-slot width cards are a lot worse yet.

 THAT is why nothing with high capability ever shows up in those form factors.

 Do note that EVERY 1080 IS 2 SLOT WIDE AT LEAST (a very few like the Aorus are *3* slot wide) - which means it is just as much a "space wasting" design as high-end AMD cards.
 Also, the 1080 is not "the champ" at anything, though it is competative with the rest of the NVidia 1070/1070ti/1080ti cards on most algos.

 2U for a mining setup is a waste of time and effort, you are WAY too limited on the cards you can use due to the "low profile" only limit of the case heights - or you have to use 90 degree risers and can normally only mount 1 or 2 cards TOTAL which is also a Bad Thing.
 4U is viable, but you WILL have cooling issues even if you use high-power fans to toss air THROUGH the case if you run a lot of cards in the case - though it IS a lot more compact than most riser setups.

 Even junk Virgin Mobile USA 3G cell was fast enough and low enough latency to handle a mining farm.

 SAT service on the other hand, I was seeing a noticeable hit (but STILL only about 1%) to stale shares from latency - but that was usually around 700 ms lag.

 1GB/sec service is SEVERE OVERKILL unless you are running literally thousands of miners.

 2GB plan should be plenty unless you have a HUGE farm.

16 CUDA cores on that card - even if you COULD find software to work with it, most recent CPUS are more powerful.

I don't shut down my ASIC miners unless they crash for some reason, or I have to move them, or I have a power outage.

 My air filters are on the air input to the ROOM though, not on the individual miners.

Bittrex and Poloniex both trade BCH.

 Why is Bitfinex shutting down US accounts?

 Are these folks related to, or part of, the moron group that bought out KNC and KEPT THE NAME?

 I can't remember offhand if the big KNC mining facility was in Norway or Sweden....

https://www.theitmart.com/system/servers/other/1u-rackmount/quanta-windmill-open-compute-f03c-2-node-1u-rack-server-s-594

 They may be old but they do Monero pretty well, per many reports on servethehome.

I think it was that same company had an entire RACK of the next generation after the Windmills up for sale at one point (45 1/3d width blades = 90 cpus AND included the power supplies setup) for a little over $4000 (no CPU RAM or HD included IIRC).
I didn't pull the trigger once I figured out that it needed 3 x 30 amp 220v feeds, since I only have one such circuit in my current place (I COULD have run 1/3d of it on the single 30 amp circuit I DO have).
Would have made an interesting "grow into it" project.

 E5-2650 seems to be the current price/performance "sweet spot" but theitmart is out of those at the moment and I don't know if they'll sell the windmills with no CPU.

If the Strix uses ball bearing fans and is less expensive than the EVGA, I'd probably go with the Strix.

 70% power on every 1070 ti model I am aware of is 126 watts.

 I'm good. 9-)

 Again, the Tensor cores are HALF PRECISION FLOATING POINT - not comparable to much of everything else.

They also are probably useless for mining, as mining wants INTEGER operations and "matrix" stuff isn't going to help in a mining situation.

 You're running it around 125 watt level?

 Posting hashrates with no setting info is .... kinda useless.

 No comparison, an Antminer is an ASIC that blows away any GPU on the algorithm it works with - but the GPU can do a TON of algorithms that an ASIC can't do at all.

 Apples to Lettuce comparison.

If they were all bought at the same time, they probably WERE from the same batch.

 I have a few different 1080 ti models, NONE of which have demonstrated stability issues (they average BETTER stability than some of the 1070 cards I've had).
 3 x Aorus, 1 x EVGA SC, 1 x ASUS "blower", 1 x Gigabyte "Windforce" - so far.

Are YOU going to provide the $3000 to do so?

All REFERENCE design cards have the GPU AND RAM provided by AMD directly, so they should all be the same.

 Once 3'd party designs start showing up (should be ANY DAY NOW), that will change.

I vote for the pair of EVGA G2 850 (or Seasonic X-850/SS-860 if you can FIND them) option.

 Go with a 1000 G2 (1050 on the Seasonic X-series) for the PSU that is running the MB/HD/RAM stuff IF you plan to push the cards hard though.

 Corsair is - iffy, some of their lines are made by GOOD manufacturers like Seasonic or SuperFlower's "Leadex" line, others are total junk.

 I gave up trying to keep track of which was which a long time ago.


 The other issue you WILL run into is power connector limitations - if you use 1080 ti models with 2 x 8-pin power, you're going to have to go with something bigger than an 850 - if you use at least *2* 1080 ti models that are 8+6 pin, it won't be an issue with the EVGA G2 850 or the Seasonic X-850 / SS-860 models.

For ball bearing fans, go Gigabyte Aorus (but NOT their lower-end cards), EVGA (all), MSI (all except PERHAPS their blower-design cards), ASUS blower cards (not sure on the rest).
On the AMD side, go Sapphire (hands down the BEST designs and ALL ball bearing fans).

1070 x 2 will do a little more than double the hashrate of a single 1080 ti - but for MORE than double the cost, and it gets worse at a "full system" level.

 The most efficient setup right now for ZEC mining (and "better mined by Nvidia" coins in general) is a debate between the 1070 ti and the 1080 ti when you factor in TOTAL SYSTEM cost and watts used - the 1070 ti still wins on efficiency and on hash/$ but it's VERY close, while the 1080 ti wins on "rig density".

 The Aorus in specific runs pretty cool even at it's full 250 watt TDP - quite a bit cooler than many of the 1070 cards I have running at 150 or 180 watt "design spec" TDP.
 Only way I've ever seen one get over 70 is if it was running the "stock" fan profile in a HOT room at HIGH load, or in a "crowded" setup that didn't let it get good airflow.

 The issue with ALL of the "2.5-3 slot" designs is that they all use 2 x 8-pin power connectors, which makes getting power to them a PAIN in a multi-GPU rig.
 I vastly prefer cards like the EVGA SC model, with 8+6 power and still stays reasonably cool even when pushing close to max wattage at high load.

The Titan V (Volta) is NOT specifically a AI card - it ALSO has those 5000+ CUDA cores on it.

 And yes, it IS the Volta version of the Titan X (Pascal) - which has interesting implications for the high end of the rest of the Volta lineup - like "will there be a 1190/2090 model that's HIGHER than the 1180 ti / 2090 ti" or are the Volta cards going to get CUDA core count boosts across the line (and likely a price boost as well)?


On the other hand, I WOULD wait for a 1180 ti / 2080 ti version of Volta before I started figuring mining ability - and last time I checked those cards are at least a couple months out.



 Also compare apples to apples - the "110 TFlops" figure is HALF PRECISION, the actual "standard" TFLops figure is 13.8 single precision TFLOPS which is a jump but not a crazy-huge one (the 6.9 DOUBLE precision TFlops however is pretty impressive 'till you factor in the COST of the card).

Given the very low availability and gouge pricing on the Vega right now, my "go to" cards are the 1070 ti then the 1080 ti
I WOULD buy a few more Vega cards *IF* I could find them at a reasonable price, but given the current "50% OR MORE over MSRP" gouge pricing when you can find a Vega card in stock at ALL, it's not worth it.

I prefer the EVGA SC models of both of those, though the Gigabyte Aorus 1080 ti is a monster of a card (but the dual 8-pin power connectors make it a pain for multi-card rigs).

IF you run a 1080 ti at "efficient" settings under about 200 watts TDP, they all seem to run the same hashrate and efficiency give-or-take with the differences being smaller than "measurement tolarance" - it's above that point as the cooling systems start limiting boost clock that the DIFFERENCES start showing up.

MSI Armor models work OK, and the dual ball bearing fans are a Good Thing, but I'm not real impressed with the cooling on the one I have (a 1070 model) as it's a hair WORSE than my EVGA SC 1070 cards despite the card being a fair bit taller and about the same length.


 In ZEC mining, the 1070 ti is MORE efficient and better on hash/$ than the 1080 ti - but it's CLOSE at the "system cost and power" level, and the rig density of the 1080 ti is going to be a good bit better for most folks.

 This should also apply more-or-less equally well on other Nvidia-prefered algorithms like LyraR2v2 but the details MIGHT vary given the effect of GDDR 5x latency on some algorithms.