Everyone must have a different experience in trading and at first I was also introduced by a friend regarding trading, after that I tried to learn from various sources both through articles and video channels. According to my experience there are several things that need attention, courage and experience are the two most important things in trading, while technical trading is up to how people learn to understand it, adjustments and trading approaches usually also differ from one person to another.

Because what I see is a trader who is experienced or not, loss is always unavoidable under certain conditions, it's just that the difference is how to manage panic and try to make a profit on the next trade. There's nothing more detailed and how one can learn to make a profit of the trades made, that is the end result that every trader wants to achieve.

That's a long time for the average person in the forum experience and even I don't have that experience compared to yours. Does this look like a joke or just cheering up the OP?

Why spend time on another job when you can make $229376 in 15 days trading with a total capital of $7. Did you know that $7 converted in my country would not be enough to cover two days of subsistence, even if you are an expert in market analysis, I still highly doubt that you will be able to make that profit in 15 days of trading.

How do you do it all? what is the entry price and what is the closing price? However you are free to try to speculate around your trades and let's see after 15 days from now, if you can do all that right.

Gosh what got into you OP and that sweet dream is not the implementation when we wake up in do real activities, try something more interesting to discuss because this will only bring you in the shadows of confusing dreams.

You can look for the topic lock button on the bottom left and it's best to do it quickly so as not to create a big mess in your thread. If you intend to promote anything that has nothing to do with bitcoin then you should look for the appropriate mainboard because here it is more relevant to talk specifically about bitcoin.

I don't want to know what shitcoin and wallet you are trying to promote and that is your right and even if it is a scam you will also get the consequences of what you do. It's been over four hours since you posted your post and associating bitcoins with your referrals makes absolutely no sense.

I will not be against you introducing bitcoin to anyone including your own children, because it is your right and responsibility to those you introduce it to. But you also have to pay attention to their age because for young children whatever they see is just for fun and once they see another, more interesting picture they will also forget the previous one. It's how young children grow every day and there's no reason for them to be interested for long periods of time in something they know nothing about.

That's also how I teach my children to be interested in drawing and usually every day I give them a cartoon picture to redraw in a book and the next day when I give them another picture, it will also be illustrated again with the new picture I gave. That's the daily life of young children and there's nothing more interesting than playing for them, because the learning process will be in accordance with what is given by their parents or teachers.

Unik juga orang kita Indonesia ya Om, apa yang lagi buming itu yang di kejar dan setelah itu di tinggalkan kalau tidak mampu menghasilkan, mungkin alasan seperti yang Om sampai ada benarnya karena waktu pandemi banyak orang yang tidak bisa beraktivitas di luar rumah sehingga mencoba lakukan sesuatu untuk menghilangkan rasa kebosanan, salah satunya buat rekening saham, belajar mengenal crypto dan lain-lainnya.

Indeks inilah yang mungkin membawa negara kita menjadi salah satu yang terbanyak dalam membeli crypto pada tahun 2021, tetapi metode survenya kita tidak tau bagaimana mereka mencoba mengumpulkan data. Jika memang data itu akurat maka sepertinya pertumbuhan crypto di negara kita semakin besar dan ini bagus untuk perjalanannya kedepan.

Apakah bisa disimpulkan bahwa data tersebut terkadang tidak apple to apple Om, karena perbedaan data yang kita lihat dan tidak pernah sama antara satu dengan lainnya, tetapi lumayan juga sih jumlahnya?

I also can't guarantee that bitcoin will last for hundreds of years because no one can predict it for sure, but talking about the possibility that bitcoin could reach zero is completely baseless and even if in the worst case scenario all governments ban it. Talk about zero it means bitcoin is no longer valuable and I think it's almost impossible for that to happen and I also doubt any government within the quotes "globally" would use bitcoin as legal tender because bitcoin would basically never fit into the system they.

I don't see anything worrying about bitcoin and even to think of going to zero, there are many reasons why bitcoin can defend itself from being at zero. So forget about that and let's take a look at the opportunities that are available because trying to make assumptions like this would lead to a lot of speculation that we can't prove to be true.

Give a proper argument why bitcoin will fall to zero? until now I don't see one strong reason why bitcoin will be at zero, regardless of how the government tries to spread negative things about bitcoin and what I understand from your post, it has to do with government policies that will prohibit the growth of bitcoin globally and is this the only stronger reason to say bitcoin is going back to zero?

But realistically that also doesn't happen and many governments actually allow legal bitcoin as a commodity asset that can be traded and even El Salvador has legalized bitcoin as a legal transaction tool. Therefore the chance for bitcoin to be zero is completely impossible because of the strong assumption that the government also does not do that. There are several countries that have banned bitcoin completely, both as a commodity asset and as a legal means of transaction, but so far this has not affected bitcoin in any way.

When zero assumptions are impossible then what will happen we will never know, even people's belief in bitcoin will return to zero is not the same as altcoins and shitcoins which on their journey are pumped, dumped and die.

That means you have been on forum for quite a long time and should have had a lot of experience or could say that by now the standard of daily trading or long term investing has brought you to a conclusion.

From your whole story I don't think you are suitable for day trading because for day trading you need sharp analysis to read market movements and even though people can learn to know how. But you have been on the forum for almost two years and should have quite a bit of trading experience, so I conclude that you are better suited to be involved in a long term investment in bitcoin.

For daily trading in my opinion teknis analysis and fundamental analysis are important so that you can reduce the risk impact of the trades you run. When you place the standard of long term investing an understanding of technical analysis is not that important because all you need is to be calm when the market goes into a sharp downturn especially the investment you are making in bitcoin.

The fiat system also suffers from a greater degree of weakness and almost all aspects related to investing and money have their degree of weakness. So the explanation must be that there are different levels of weakness in bitcoin or in the fiat system, but of all the weaknesses that exist, we can choose which one has a much better impact. I'm sure why bitcoin can get more trust now because of the concept of decentralization and being able to maintain the value of the investment assets we invest.

From all your explanations above, but in the end at points 4-5 you are also indirectly praising bitcoin, so the point by point you made is actually not related to one another. Bitcoin has reached the stage of great adoption to date and the reason is clear that what is offered by bitcoin is far more rational in the way that many people feel at the moment, so people choose bitcoin as one of the options that can be used to make a profit.

Regardless of how bitcoin can generate huge profits if done in the right way, bitcoin's volatility can also result in people losing money when investing. Therefore it is important to understand how to invest properly and if they do not understand market psychology and panic when bitcoin experiences a sharp decline, then therein lies the panic that will bring people to the loss stage.

Tetapi menurut saya dalam kasus yang terjadi di bali terhadap TS bukan karena dia tidak mengetahui hukum, melainkan karena melihat potensi keuntungan yang di dapatkan jauh lebih besar menggunakan pembayaran dengan crypto karena mungkin turis lebih suka cara praktis dalam melakukan transaksi. Jika ingin terlihat viral dengan konsekuensi yang di dapatkan membahayakan diri dan akan berurusan dengan hukum itu artinya orang tersebut bodoh, apalagi mereka tau hukumnya namun bertingkah seperti orang bodoh seolah-olah tidak tau apa-apa.

Kalau menurut saya sih om kebanyakan orang kita Indonesia tau bahwa crypto bukanlah alat pembayaran yang sah, sehingga menggunakan cara ini dalam bertransaksi akan menuai masalah, tetapi karena melihat peluang dalam menghasilkan keuntungan jauh lebih besar jika menggunakan pembayaran menggunakan crypto, maka sadar atau tidak mereka akan mencoba melakukan dengan hati-hati, namun naas bagi TS yang tertangkap karena mungkin terlalu terbuka dan saya yakin ada banyak orang lain di bali menggunakan cara ini.

The key is that we must continue to evaluate every decision we have made in the past and losing a lot of assets when we cannot make a profit is the way to regret it and most importantly not to get discouraged and keep trying again. There are many people who have lost the opportunity to profit in crypto, both because of mistakes made and because the knowledge about the assets they have is still very lacking to understand. But taking a lot of risk in altcoins must be a big consideration so that we don't experience the same loss.

To be honest with the potential that exists bitcoin is a much wiser choice there and can guarantee the value of losses that we can avoid, rather than looking at opportunities in altcoins which are quite speculative and difficult to predict, relying on hype in altcoins is not profitable because we never know how the predictions we make will lead to wrong decisions, a stronger analysis is needed before making decisions and considering bitcoin is much wiser in my view.

In other words you are trying to hold bitcoins as an investment step that you are doing, but the problem is you lack the money to try to enter the market to collect bitcoins and almost a lot of people are having this kind of problem, not just you and even myself the same. But you don't need to worry because there are ways and approaches that can be chosen through DCA, this potential can provide space for anyone to collect bitcoins and we are only required to consistently take this approach on a regular basis to make it easier for us to collect.

So even though the limited money we have does not create obstacles when we plan to invest in bitcoin and that is why bitcoin is far superior and can maintain the value of the money we have compared to choosing other investment systems. Moreover limited money is a big factor for some people like us, but there is still a way if we want to do it do and dare to take a little risk in it.

There is always no more accurate certainty regarding this matter and even bitcoin is running a little slowly and always getting repeated corrections for now and it is expected that the bull run will be something to look forward to, but there is always no certainty for this prediction

If we understand bitcoin why do we have to wait for news like this to make a purchase, even though we usually rely on cycles to see bitcoin growth and it is almost certain that the cycle is almost approaching for the next period, so what's the point of deciding to buy bitcoin because of news like this or not? DCA can be adjusted according to the capital we have, so the buying factor is not only seen from the FUD news that appears, because actually we only rely on predictions to see opportunities and to what extent we are able to take advantage of conditions to make profits from any conditions.

There is no need to depend on an event influenced by FUD news to make purchases and if at any time you can collect bitcoins through the DCA method, it's just that you can save money on large purchases when FUD occurs and you can offset DCA purchases as one other regular way.

And these limits will also be balanced with your ability to generate profits, there is no certainty about 80% or 100% because we cannot measure these numbers with certainty.

Not only knowledge that needs to be increased but capital is also an important aspect that can bring you any kind of income. Income limits cannot be measured using a systematic formula because what plays a role is capital readiness and logically it will not happen the same for one person to another.

If you know more without the power of capital to help, it will also not bring you double your income. The importance of balancing knowledge and capital that we have because these two things are important factors as a driver, there is nothing we can do when money is not a support and even to carry out investments and businesses also really need money.

Even though it looks interesting and the creative idea that Lugano is doing will never happen in our country, because the only legal transaction tool that is recognized by the state is fiat currency. This week there is one young person who accepts payments using crypto has to deal with the police and the person concerned has also been detained at the police station. It's a very surprising phenomenon that our country is not playing around in cracking down on bans and it's just one person trying to accept bitcoin as a means of transaction and imagine if most do that?

Lugano is a city in Switzerland and mostly accepts means of payment using bitcoins, but actually in that city not only accepts bitcoins as legal tender but other cryptos can also be used to a large extent. So it's no wonder that what they are doing is an important aspect of providing an effective service and this has been going on since 2022, this program is also believed to have a positive impact on business growth there.

Every active day trader is required to have a special view of risk management knowledge and this does not only apply to day traders, even all trading activities really need risk management to recognize the impact of trading. Because this speaks of the conditions in dealing with trades that don't work according to certain conditions.

This advice is more suitable for beginners who are new to trading because for people who have long been associated with trading, the risk reward will be in accordance with the capital we place.

What is certain is that trading will not always generate profits, even though people are good at analyzing market conditions and still sometimes they get a loss, but the difference between beginner activities and experienced people. For example, for those who experience losing trades and they will try to increase the next trade to cover the previous loss, such is the activity of those who are experienced in dealing with trade and surely they have been taught by experience to achieve this readiness.

It happens in almost several poor countries and including where I live, bitcoin activity in our area is legal as a commodity asset and so far the growth of bitcoin is increasing the adoption that is happening. But for rural areas bitcoin is still considered a new thing, for some people who are not familiar with the internet. Internet network limitations are a little slower in spreading knowledge about bitcoin to the public and this is what I saw a few years ago, especially in my area. Fortunately for now many people under the age of 40 are more familiar with bitcoin and even more people are already involved in investing as much as they can afford.

Does your country also restrict bitcoin as a commodity asset? because if the activity of payment transactions is prohibited there is still a possibility of being legal as a commodity asset, exactly what happened in my country and so far bitcoin's growth in terms of adoption has grown so fast since the previous two years.

Bicara rendah atau tidaknya edukasi terhadap bitcoin tergantung pada negara mana yang anda maksud, mungkin sebagian negara edukasi tentang bitcoin masih sedikit lebih rendah dibandingkan dengan negara lain yang telah mencapai tahap lebih maju, kepercayaan terhadap emas seperti yang saya sampaikan sebelumnya karena memiliki pandangan yang berbeda, bahwa dulu emas pernah berjaya sebelum mata uang fiat diperkenalkan dan potensi jika PD III terjadi orang akan kembali beralih kepada sistem lama, tetapi harus digaris bawahi itu hanya sebatas asumsi yang tidak ada dasar yang mampu dibuktikan.

Kita berharap gitu sih Om dan mudah-mudahan PD III tidak akan pernah terjadi karena ada banyak dampak yang akan terjadi kepada dunia maupun negara manapun jika itu terjadi, apalagi sejarah PD I dan PD II telah menyisakan luka besar terhadap perjalanan sejarah dunia.

Permasalahannya adalah masyarakat terlalu mempercayai bot meskipun kegiatan trading juga membutuhkan keterampilan individu untuk mengenali kondisi, namun karena pemahaman bot dapat melakukan sesuatu dengan lebih mudah maka masyarakat lebih memilih untuk menggunakan robot buatan manusia dibandingkan mengandalkan keterampilan sendiri dalam melakukan trading manual.

Kelemahan ini sering diabaikan oleh para pengguna robot trading, seperti yang Anda katakan dan saya rasa pembahasannya sudah kita bahas di beberapa tempat sebelumnya. Mengandalkan robot trading bukanlah masalah selama kita bisa memahami kondisi tertentu yang memiliki kelemahan di dalamnya. Saya pribadi lebih memilih trading manual untuk saat ini dan belum pernah mencoba trading menggunakan robot, karena selama ini saya masih cukup nyaman mengandalkan pengetahuan saya sendiri untuk aktivitas trading manual.

Mungkin belum naas aja om dan memang Undang-Undang Nomor 7 Tahun 2011 tentang Mata Uang jelas menyebutkan bahwa selain rupiah kita tidak diperbolehkan menjadi alat transaksi, beberapa kasus yang mungkin pernah om alami dan lihat belum tercium oleh pihak penegak hukum dan bisa saja mereka lolos dari pantauan karena alasan tertentu. Bali menjadi salah satu pusat destinasi bagi wisatawan, tidak hanya turis bahkan orang Indonesia sendiri seperti arti gemar liburan kesana karena memang menyimpan keindahan alam laut yang luar biasa dan mungkin pemerintah dapat membuat regulasi khusus disana mengenai hal ini dan saya juga melihat turis di sana terlalu bebas yang seakan-akan di biarkan tanpa pengawalan.

Kasus TS menjadi sebuah peringatan keras bagi siapapun yang terlibat diluar ketentuan hukum karena di negara kita crypto hanya di perbolehkan sebagai aset komoditas, sehingga bertindak di luar kewajaran akan membuat kita sendiri yang menerima resikonya, oleh sebab itu kita harus hati-hati dengan aturan yang berlaku.