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1281  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Binance: $BNB The Future of Exchanges. on: October 13, 2017, 06:50:44 PM
Pumping is starting... seems like it.  15 cents up.


edit: FFS every time it goes up a notch it drops just as hard. FUCK, i hate this shit.


Swing trade, my friend, you can make a lot of money
1282  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: The higher the rise, the bigger the plunge (btc vs alts) on: October 13, 2017, 06:50:24 PM
With Bitcoin rising so fast and the alts losing so much due to a number of factors (bitcoingold and upcoming segwitx2, among others), I can't help but wonder WHEN it'll all come crashing back down.
it is IF it comes down. you know that not everything that goes up, comes down. you can see bitcoin and all the topics that have been posted by many users like you who said "when will it come down" but as you can see, it is still rising.
don't confuse bitcoin's correction with coming down and also don't confuse the pumps that altcoins have with bitcoin's rally.

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Obviously the alts are in a perfect accumulation state (already doubled my holdings of most alts including SONM), so I'm really not too worried about it, but this is a rise that cannot sustain itself.
NOT YET.

i think it is too soon to start buying altcions because not only they have not stopped but also they have not even showed the first signs of slowing down. the drop is in its starting phase.

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My guess is by the end of october bitcoin will have dropped back from 6K to about 4.5K, which means about 20-25 billion dollars will flow out of the market, and some will flow right back into the cheap yet durable alts like NEO, SONM, ETH, LTC, ...

What do you guys think?
first it has to go to $6000, and it depends on how it will get there. if it is the current trend and if 6k is reached in a short time (like in a week) then obviously it will fall.
if it takes a longer time with some corrections on the way up, the drop will become less and less likely and smaller correction only.

also remember than not all the money goes back to altcoins. many will go back to fiat.
that doesn't mean alts won't come back though.

History always repeats itself, because people suddenly aren't going to become rational investors and leave their emotions aside. As soon as bitcoin starts falling, people will panic sell, and sell orders will be filled as well. The alts will rise because that's happened time after time again. People expect it, so it'll be a self fulfilling prophecy.
Either way, none of us can predict the future, we'll see.

Happy trading!
1283  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] DYNERIUM - New ETH Smart Contract - Mine Anytime - No ICO on: October 13, 2017, 06:46:55 PM
The project doesn't share complete details as to its aims in the crypto sphere. And to stand out in the space required proper spell out of your use case.

Regarding the Self Mining concept, it will fare on but doesn't seem different from the regular Stack (POS) procure.

I would appreciate to see more intriguing use case. Though, I think also to look forth on the project.

Cheers to Dev team.

It's exactly the same with minereum and artemine
1284  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] SONM: Supercomputer Organized by Network Mining on: October 13, 2017, 11:49:57 AM
And then suddenly it gets added to Poloniex without anyone suspecting. The price climbs to 10k and then 15k before it drops back to pre-listing price of 3k. This is entirely possible.

SONM on Poloniex, Are you serious? There was never such a news and I checked coinmarketcap and didn't find this.But this is possible only after the launch which is scheduled soon.Price is going back to where it was before being added to Binance thanks to BTC.

Sonm is not in poloniex, or bittrex. Sonm is only trading in binance(quite large exchange though) and liqui. They are decent exchanges and can pump Sonm to the moon.

Binance is really the best exchange right now, with bittrex acting really suspicious recently, but I believe Sonm is trying to get listed there
We're communicationg with exchanges constantly. The process is not for a one day, week or even month to get listed on some of them. You can always ask exchanges from your side about listing SONM.

Will do, the more exposure Sonm gets, the better
1285  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] 🌟🌟 Datum - Unlock the Bln $$ Data Economy - ICO 29th October - 🌟🌟 on: October 13, 2017, 11:39:20 AM
this might help government and health care sector since lots of requiements
I think advertising industry will get more profit from this project than other industry

most likely, but any application of this project should be encouraged. what if the fitness devices we used sold our data thru Datum to research centers. then the info is used in research.

Our info could be used in research, science, politics, ads, Tv, etc. everywhere, also to do fraudulent schemes, so be careful where and to who you sell your data, and be careful not to be hacked, I don't think a hacker could get into the blockchain, but they could full the people into giving them the keys, so be careful guys, this project is too good to be accused of bad security when the users are the ones giving their data away by being not careful enough.

Atleast with Datum we have the choice who we want to sell it to, right now we have no idea what Google/FB and other companies do with the data the acquire.

Wait, we can choose the buyer? I must have missed this if this is true. I thought we can only sell it to highest bidder. I really don't know that would make any difference though, they can sell it again or do what they please with it.

Where did you read that we can sell data to the highest bidder? There's nothing about that in whitepaper, or at least I can't remember having seen sth like that.

Yeah I also couldnt find something like that. As I Said before: Datum will make some Deals with several companies. And than, everytime we sell our data with the App, the Data will go to these companies.

Maybe we are reading different whitepapers then? Here is a screenshot of an excerpt from page 13:



Especially point 4 where you as data seller receive requests from interested parties and can effectively negotiate a price.

thanks for posting that man!
1286  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Best crypto to buy now? on: October 13, 2017, 11:37:53 AM
Ofcorse Stratis because this guys really hardworker and really really quality. if you are interested, you can browse the road map they published.

Stratis NEW Road Map (2018)
https://stratisplatform.com





Thanks for posting man, Stratis looks like a great buy right now
1287  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Neotracker Can't Claim Gas on: October 13, 2017, 11:36:04 AM
Hey guys, since my wallet doesn't work properly anymore, I cashed out my NEO through Neotracker. I also had some gas left, but I wasn't able to cash that. Anyone have any idea what I can do about that?
1288  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] SONM: Supercomputer Organized by Network Mining on: October 13, 2017, 11:33:45 AM
And then suddenly it gets added to Poloniex without anyone suspecting. The price climbs to 10k and then 15k before it drops back to pre-listing price of 3k. This is entirely possible.

SONM on Poloniex, Are you serious? There was never such a news and I checked coinmarketcap and didn't find this.But this is possible only after the launch which is scheduled soon.Price is going back to where it was before being added to Binance thanks to BTC.

Sonm is not in poloniex, or bittrex. Sonm is only trading in binance(quite large exchange though) and liqui. They are decent exchanges and can pump Sonm to the moon.

Binance is really the best exchange right now, with bittrex acting really suspicious recently, but I believe Sonm is trying to get listed there
1289  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Next 100x? on: October 13, 2017, 11:29:47 AM
ALL i see is P&D coins  Cheesy
Come on man do your research and buy something else , there are tons of promising coins still stay in low prices out there...

Care to share your Knowledge with us Wink?

Sonm and Qtum.
I too agree with your future value predictions. SONM is extremely undervalued and the price will go to 100x, it's very promising.

I don't know about SONM100x but most likely be at least 10x.
But the coin that I think that may hit 50x of current price is Vibehub
vibehub only hit x6. and price stuck now

Well it’s really normal because of the bitcoin fork now. And they achieve 6x without any advertisement so its a success for beginning. After the fork and they having a marketing team in November with the strong partnership of the Monster Inc. (monsterproduct.com) their price will increase steadily

Imagine if Sonm gets a collab with Intel/HP/Microsoft and gets to develop PC's capable of supercomputing at high speeds, couldn't they reach a marketcap of 1/3rd of ETH's current cap? That would be a 22$ coin, so about 100x the recent peak
1290  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] Change - The First Decentralysed Crypto Bank [ICO September 16th] on: October 13, 2017, 11:23:38 AM
What happened to the website, it's down?
1291  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Minereum - First Self Mining Smart Contract - ARTEMINE ICO NOW LIVE on: October 13, 2017, 11:20:52 AM
https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/minereum/

When circulating supply will get fixed to the accurate amount there still showing old supply even more than 500k destroyed.

Probably after the artemine ICO, as they're planning to burn all the contributed MNE

So now should be a good time to buy in theory right? Because its  just a coinmarketcap glitch Cheesy

it's a good time to buy because all the money is flowing to bitcoin because stupid people want bitcoingold. The alts are bleeding, which is a great time to buy them because once the bleeding stops a lot of them will reach new ATH's
1292  Economy / Speculation / Re: what you think about bitcoin in like 5 years? on: October 13, 2017, 11:19:20 AM
i always believe in bitcoin and now its cross 5600$.  day by day the price of bitcoin is increasing frequently. hope the price of bitcoin will cross 8k  at the end of this year and possibly 40k within upcoming 5 years

It's gonna come back down after hitting 6-7K, back to 4.5, after that it'll jump to 8 - 9, back to 5-6, up to 10K next year june
1293  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: The next 100x-1000x coin? on: October 13, 2017, 11:17:25 AM
I believe OmiseGo, 0x and ripio will probably be the next 100x
OmiseGo is already 100x I think or near to it. Potential is now very very low, maybe 2x
0x is also not cheap anymore but can do 10X I think

my recommendation is >30% today (blockcat). I think now it is starting to go to 5-10 dollar

Could have written the exact same thing. People that think OMG is going x100 within the next year are naive. It's done very well and the market has put it's price where it should be currently. It could easily go 2x in the next several months and people who bought at these prices will complain that it's not moving fast enough. Great projects don't necessarily do 10-100x JUST because they are great projects. They've often already had a great run and will move up more incrementally as more use cases, new features or partnerships develop. 0x is also has a lot of potential but needs to prove itself conceptually before it could give another good run, especially since it has a relatively low market cap.

You are literally smarter than 99% of the people on bitcointalk
1294  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: The higher the rise, the bigger the plunge (btc vs alts) on: October 13, 2017, 11:15:27 AM
Agree. This recent rise to $5.3K is too fast. We went from flash crash $2.9K to $5.3K bull run within a month (15 Sept to 13 Oct). Like you said, there must be a correction coming soon before we going any higher. It almost felt like a bubble now.

About where all that money will go, I don't think it will pour into altcoin either Tongue All that money are too big for altcoin market right now. What kind of technology does altcoin have? There haven't many developments in the altcoin scene these recent months, probably because people are busy making all kinds of ICO.

There will be another correction, there always is. Just remember how fast bitcoin went up when it crashed from $2500 to $1800, once it fell to $1800 it quickly jumped to over $3k and then shortly after to over $4k and soon almost $5k before crashing back down to $2800. So Im thinking we may see it come close to touching $7k before taking a correction. Once it touches close to $7k, I'm thinking it will crash back down to $4500 while stabilzing in the $5500-$6000 range. But who really knows, this is only my prediction based on what we've seen in the past. Either way, if this pace continues with bitcoin, we may easily see $10,000 within the next 6 months.

I agree, well put
1295  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: SONM will explode on: October 13, 2017, 11:14:14 AM
whats so good about SNM?
There's a jpeg floating around somewhere that breaks down the advantages that SONM has over other similar projects.
I am sure you mean this image:
http://i64.tinypic.com/qzlu1y.jpg
I believe that SONM is by far the best cryptocurrency to invest in at this moment, so that is what I have done. I expect a natural growth on every update, release and partnership they make.
I don't believe about that, this was pretty odd to see about the comparison between all of the project, actually golem has the better historical rather than sonm and this time the price back to the bottom and that can be considered as only pump to hype the sonm token.
You don't seem to know what you are talking about. How can going back to ICO price be hype? Golem is not historically better either, since there is not enough data to even make that decision right now. We will see in January which project performed better in its first 6 months. And even that info is largely irrelevant because people buy blindly without understanding fundamentals.

I find that I agree with most, if not all, of your comments. Great minds think alike hahaha
I wonder how many people actually think the same way that we do, but just spread "fake news". I find it hard to imagine that anybody who actually spent any time doing research would make such weird and strictly nonsensical claims as you can find on this forum... Maybe it's just account farmers spamming though.

yeah I notice that too, a lot of fake accounts no doubt, like someone posted electroneum would go to 20 dollars by the end of this year. People like that need their heads examined daily.
1296  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] SONM: Supercomputer Organized by Network Mining on: October 12, 2017, 09:48:18 PM
Better pick some up while majority is looking to make some quick bucks. SONM if isn't accumulated by investors who are seeking good profit then there will perhaps be more suitable time. Bitcoin will be stable soon and then these market will start working to give money.

Picking up some right now is really smart, we saw the market tested a pump to 0.25$, right now we're at half that price. You could buy 10.000 for 1.2K and close the year with 10K in your pocket when the coin inevitable goes to 1$. I'm even thinking it could reach 20$ in 5 - 10 years time, giving them a +-8 billion dollar cap, 33% of ETH's current cap; if we look at how NEO, ETH, Stratis, and so many other coins had massive ROI's, Sonm definitely fits the bill project wise. They talked with giants like Intel, HP, Microsoft, ... Imagine if they develop a Sonm-HP laptop fit for global high speed supercomputing...
Source on Intel/HP/Microsoft talks? Haven't seen this yet.

I was at the barca convention where they talked, they don't release info about this but I might have seen people tweet about it
1297  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Time to buy again? on: October 12, 2017, 09:44:20 PM
How long do you think that this dip will last? At least until one week? until fork? until novemeber? Really hard job to time the market, usually i just put some really ridicously low orders in time like this

Probably at least until the China meeting, after that rumors will feed the market up until oct 25th (btg), after that we'll have the segwit shizzle in november, ... This market doesn't sleep
1298  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: The higher the rise, the bigger the plunge (btc vs alts) on: October 12, 2017, 09:42:44 PM
This is temporary mate very few coins have been able to maintain there price and money will be removed but trading will also happen simultaneously people are now only selling so maintaining the price is really hard. If you are not interested in the new coin just buy altcoins who's price according to you is low

Very true, I'm investing in Sonm right now and 2 ICO's called Change and Datum, we'll see how I'll fare with those
1299  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: The higher the rise, the bigger the plunge (btc vs alts) on: October 12, 2017, 09:42:03 PM
With Bitcoin rising so fast and the alts losing so much due to a number of factors (bitcoingold and upcoming segwitx2, among others), I can't help but wonder WHEN it'll all come crashing back down. Obviously the alts are in a perfect accumulation state (already doubled my holdings of most alts including SONM), so I'm really not too worried about it, but this is a rise that cannot sustain itself.

My guess is by the end of october bitcoin will have dropped back from 6K to about 4.5K, which means about 20-25 billion dollars will flow out of the market, and some will flow right back into the cheap yet durable alts like NEO, SONM, ETH, LTC, ...

What do you guys think?
This is a normal thing indeed but i cant think off that bitcoin would reach out $6k on this month either after or before the fork but well it do really have the possibility on reaching that range but i can still say that there would be a dip but rather a zig-zag way on the price thinking off that the fork is back to back which means prices would really be pulling either on the top or bottom. Just like that and as a wise investors or traders we should know how to ride on the waves.

Buy the dips, accumulate, and hodl
1300  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: The higher the rise, the bigger the plunge (btc vs alts) on: October 12, 2017, 09:41:35 PM
With Bitcoin rising so fast and the alts losing so much due to a number of factors (bitcoingold and upcoming segwitx2, among others), I can't help but wonder WHEN it'll all come crashing back down. Obviously the alts are in a perfect accumulation state (already doubled my holdings of most alts including SONM), so I'm really not too worried about it, but this is a rise that cannot sustain itself.

My guess is by the end of october bitcoin will have dropped back from 6K to about 4.5K, which means about 20-25 billion dollars will flow out of the market, and some will flow right back into the cheap yet durable alts like NEO, SONM, ETH, LTC, ...

What do you guys think?

It is a win win situation because the money entering BTC most of it will later flow back to Altcoins but the impatient attitude of most people resulted in these panic sale, I don't see BTC going back to $4000 if it break the $6000 barrier.

True, and each day new people enter the market, whilst very, very few ever leave the market completely
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