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12801  Other / Off-topic / Re: ⚽ The European Super League ( ESL) on: April 23, 2021, 04:50:53 PM
Sooner or later, the Super League will be created. Top clubs produce top content and they have to manage money. At the moment, only officials are in charge of the money - this is an absurd situation and I hope that she will be buried as soon as possible. And by the way, I don't understand those who want to watch a lot of dull matches with outsiders instead of interesting matches between great clubs.

I agree with you. Eventually, we will see this tournament happening. I also don't understand how people are content with watching big clubs playing against very small teams in many matches. I think we need a tournament that will consist only the biggest clubs. I would definitely enjoy watching it.

Yes, these arguments that constant matches between top clubs will quickly become boring is absurd. I think this is just propaganda from rotten UEFA and FIFA who do not want to miss out on their fat piece of the "pie" that others bake. Because of the pandemic, the crisis is very strong in football, so the motivation of the clubs to create the Super League is great and they will not give up so easily.
12802  Local / Альтернативные криптовалюты / Re: Новый тренд майнинга 2021(HDD и SSD) on: April 23, 2021, 04:35:38 PM
Судя по всему производители хардов посмотрели на производителей видюх, подумали "а чем мы хуже" и запустили какое-то говно у которого одна цель - разогнать цены на харды.
На излете хайпа так себе план, не надежный как швейцарские часы, а так очень даже норм. Симптоматично что монеты пока не продаются.
12803  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Tips on how to place sports bets on: April 22, 2021, 08:24:22 PM
By the way, I read the twitter of a former tennis pro - Kafelnikov, and sometimes he gives predictions for various sporting events (mainly tennis, but not only) and he turns out to be right very often. I have not checked how much stronger his predictions are from the bookmakers, but at first glance, he could beat them.

This is another good point, there are people out there who are above average at selecting winners. It's a slightly self defeating idea in some ways however, because if they are really that good at predicting outcomes then A) they would likely just make it into a profitable career and keep their ideas to themselves or b) be found by bookmakers who would take their long term winning streaks into consideration when determining fair odds. We all need to remember that bookmakers are using some of the most sophisticated prediction software, with decades worth of historical analysis, when automatically pricing and updating the bets they will take - with a margin of safety added on top. However, if you are content and willing to grind out low profits across many bets, this kind of strategy might work - just make sure you track the profitability outcome over time.

Yes, I understand that due to the mathematical advantage over the long distance, the coolest player will most likely lose to the bookmaker, but apparently there are segments when a person is maximally involved in a certain sport and can calculate the odds more accurately than the bookmaker. And by the way, we all know that any software sometimes makes dramatic mistakes, so a person always has a chance (not at a distance, but at separate intervals).
12804  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What is the best Sport to bet on ? on: April 22, 2021, 08:06:59 PM
It depends on the purpose for which you are placing your bets. If for the sake of making money, then you need to choose a more predictable sport, if in order to tickle your nerves, then less. For example, it is believed that men's and women's tennis are very different in predictability, since women are less emotionally stable and during a match the situation can radically change several times.

I agree, if you are playing for money personal preferences shouldn't be decisive. If you are watching games and just want the thrill while watching, well, obviously you place your bets on the sport you like to watch the most.

I once placed 9 bets on a Bundesliga match day, 8 games were correct and now the 9th game was about to start. That was the real deal in terms of fun and thrill. Tongue

For money though nobody would put 9 games down on a single betting ticket. Just doesn't make any sense.

In fact, a lot of people make such bets. If the odds are small, then the winnings will be quite regular, if the odds are large, then it is unlikely that a win will ever be received, but if it happens then it will be something like winning a jackpot. But in reality, unit bets are the most profitable.
12805  Other / Off-topic / Re: ⚽ The European Super League ( ESL) on: April 22, 2021, 08:02:37 PM
At least someone who likes the Super League here  Smiley The problem behind it is that they want to make a lot of money with it, while on the other side don't have any competition. Both Real Madrid and Barcelona are the two big teams who promoted the ESL a lot and surprisingly both of these football clubs have a huge debt. Creating a new league with new TV rights to being sold to Sky or some other network they would make a lot of money. I am pretty sure that the games would never be shown on ordinary satellite TV. Gladly the Fans were able to stop it.

Sooner or later, the Super League will be created. Top clubs produce top content and they have to manage money. At the moment, only officials are in charge of the money - this is an absurd situation and I hope that she will be buried as soon as possible. And by the way, I don't understand those who want to watch a lot of dull matches with outsiders instead of interesting matches between great clubs.
12806  Other / Off-topic / Re: ⚽ The European Super League ( ESL) on: April 19, 2021, 07:58:03 PM
I hope this is the beginning of the end for vile organizations like FIFA and UEFA. Big football is a business and businessmen themselves should be engaged in it and not goats officials who are mired in corruption and, in fact, manage other people's money. I hope events will develop according to a tough scenario and clubs from the Super League will be banned everywhere (like the players) and they will leave FIFA and UEFA forever and thus we will get an independent normal organization. I believe that the future belongs to the Super League.
12807  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What is the best Sport to bet on ? on: April 18, 2021, 10:48:36 PM
It depends on the purpose for which you are placing your bets. If for the sake of making money, then you need to choose a more predictable sport, if in order to tickle your nerves, then less. For example, it is believed that men's and women's tennis are very different in predictability, since women are less emotionally stable and during a match the situation can radically change several times.
12808  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Tips on how to place sports bets on: April 18, 2021, 10:24:21 PM
By the way, I read the twitter of a former tennis pro - Kafelnikov, and sometimes he gives predictions for various sporting events (mainly tennis, but not only) and he turns out to be right very often. I have not checked how much stronger his predictions are from the bookmakers, but at first glance, he could beat them.
There are certain people giving perfect prediction on the outcome of the game. We don't know whether it is some sort of coincidence or it is the result predicted after hard analysis. It is always a good choice to follow these people before making bets. Myself used to check with different sites and place the bets based on the winning probability for the match made based on viewers thought.

I don't trust any of the professional forecasters - they only advertise themselves or some courses or sell the "right" bets, this is an information business on a gullible audience. Kafelnikov interested me by the fact that he does it just for the sake of entertainment and his predictions surprise with the percentage of correct guesses.
12809  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin will never go below $50,000 again on: April 18, 2021, 10:17:25 PM
A few hours ago, we all saw how the price can fall for no particular apparent reason  Wink I see no reason why such a drop can occur more evenly and, for example, bring us to a price of 30k in a couple of weeks. At the same time, I should note the level of 30k will be very good for the entire ecosystem and will not interfere in any way with the further development and adoption of bitcoin.
Was out for almost a whole day in our time, then upon checking like 4 hours ago, it was down to $56k and I said what's the reason behind, then goes up to $57k and now to $54k. So I advise some of my buddy to buy at this very attractive price. So much for the price not going to $50k, Lol, in any case, we will see a clearer picture tomorrow as I'm sure there will be a lot of speculations for the sudden dip.

I am wondering what your confidence is based on and what you will tell your friends if they buy bitcoin and the price drops significantly lower. I can assume that since you are planning to give such advice then they are new to the crypto and you are going to take on such a responsibility?
12810  Local / Майнеры / Re: R9 390 8 Gb стоит ли ставить на майнинг? on: April 18, 2021, 10:07:56 PM
жор у них хороший по розетке и для геймеров не особо привлекательны. после хайпа скорее всего только на свалку или на блатную розетку.
я бы посмотрел по чем их забирают и скорее всего слил бы, но есть но: вопрос цены и это уже с другой стороны: если розетка есть, а за них дают месячную-двухмесячную выработку - жарил бы до конца по максимуму.
20 махов щас это где-то 60 баксов в месяц без розетки. если предложат баксов 300+ - сливал бы не задумываясь.

Да, про жор уже посчитали, тут еще и тепло надо отводить получается. Скорее всего с учетом того что для старта это вариант не очень (халявной розетки нет) сольем их с товарищем да и всё.
Да и на рынке тревожные звоночки уже звенят. Возможно что профит упадет довольно резко.
12811  Local / Майнеры / R9 390 8 Gb стоит ли ставить на майнинг? on: April 18, 2021, 01:42:22 PM
Собственно вопрос в названии топика.
Есть десяток карт, стоит ли заморачиваться с фермой или лучше распродать пока за них что-то дают?
Если я правильно понял то дают они >20 мх каждая что весьма неплохо.
12812  Local / Майнеры / Re: Майнинг в странах с разваленной экономикl on: April 18, 2021, 10:32:45 AM
асики на 60Т от 400 тысяч и новые S19 90Т сегодня( без отсрочки по доставке) 800-1000т  Grin
контейнер на 100 асиков как минимум 40 милионов, кому можно доверить это состояние?
3 рубля и своя ТЭЦ в лесу или мало населённой деревне еще не такой удручающий факт.
Как еще в РФ за майнинг отелями охота не началась, у них на площадках оборудования на миллиарды

С чего вы взяли что не началась?  Roll Eyes Вряд ли эта информация публична.
Скорее всего в этом бизнесе изначально трудились те кто с крышей, а "обычных" предпринимателей уже либо зарейдили либо убедили делится профитом во избежание.
12813  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to get the best odds on sports betting on: April 18, 2021, 09:24:09 AM
Doubt that this could be automated.

The differences are so subtle in these that unless a significant amount was invested in the arbitrage bot, it is very unlikely it'll be picked up. These unique combinations of complementary/supplementary bets can really be picked out by a human.

The fact that OP can consistently find these odds hiding in plain site should be enough proof that arbitrageurs, including botters, simply aren't picking these things up quickly enough to turn a profit. Hence what I said earlier about a *potentially* profitable opportunity.

I don't see any problems with automation from a technical point of view. This is quite easy to do and small differences in the odds do not prevent you from making huge profits, since the bot can complete many transactions in one day. The main problem is that bookmakers chase and ban all fans of guaranteed bets (surebets), regardless of whether they work manually or with the help of bots.
12814  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin will never go below $50,000 again on: April 18, 2021, 09:11:31 AM
I've seen a lot of similar topics and usually the authors were wrong. Given the fact that a fairly high level is chosen in this topic, I think that within a year we will see how the author of this topic turns out to be wrong. If I was offered a bet, I would not even be sure about the 10k level.
I think we're fair to all of the opinions.  $ 50k with bitcoin and in the crypto market is a possibility that we all acknowledge the nature of volatility.  Economics contains this concept.  Speculation is by no means conservative but it is clear that in this year's supported trend, good seasoning has created a lot of hearty parties, it will head towards $ 100k.
Vote: YES

A few hours ago, we all saw how the price can fall for no particular apparent reason  Wink I see no reason why such a drop can occur more evenly and, for example, bring us to a price of 30k in a couple of weeks. At the same time, I should note the level of 30k will be very good for the entire ecosystem and will not interfere in any way with the further development and adoption of bitcoin.
12815  Local / Oбcyждeниe Bitcoin / Re: Стоит ли сейчас инвестировать в Биткоин? on: April 17, 2021, 10:34:20 PM
В долгосрок да биткоин постоянно растет, самое главное не продавать биток, что бы не случилось. Это тоже нужно иметь веру в актив и железные нервы, когда купил по 60к, а цена полетела на 30к, если будет такая ситуация.

Все эти рассуждения про инвестицию "на любой срок" имеют существенный изъян - на любой срок можно инвестировать несущественную сумму (глупо лишать себя нужных финансов с неопределенными перспективами), а несущественная сумма в свою очередь даже при больших иксах ничего в жизни не меняет (про тысячи иксов можно забыть уже давно).
Поэтому те кто жалеет о прошлом, когда можно было вложить сумму Х а сейчас быть в шоколаде пусть лучше подумает об инвестировании суммы Х прям сейчас - внезапно окажется что эта сумма Х (которую есть решимость вложить) прям таки очень мала ибо перспективы неясны, а деньги под рукой нужны всегда ну или хотя бы точно прогнозируемо по сроку.
12816  Local / Майнеры / Re: RTX 3060 информация on: April 17, 2021, 10:19:26 PM
не придут. это ж придется по рекомендованным ценам продавать. кому это выгодно, кроме потребителя и кого интересует выгода потребителя? до конца 21 видимо можно забыть об адекватных ценах.

Мда, если бы крипты не существовало то производители чипов должны были бы ее придумать  Grin

ANTMINER E9
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5331201.0

Сообщество майнеров постановило что в2021 году геймерам видеокарт не видать по дешевой цене.
В мире проблема с производством чипов на последних технологиях, а новые заводы строятся не раньше чем за год.  Потом нужно время на обкатку и обучение высококвалифицированного персонала. Это не тапочки шить Smiley

Спасибо, как вы уже заметили я нашел анонс )
Насчет тапочек не зарекайтесь - я уже не удивлюсь если в этом ебанутом мире окажется что тапочки делаются на единственном заводе и по @any_reason@ наступает дефицит и надо будет либо покупать их втридорога либо в старых ходить  Grin
12817  Local / Майнеры / Re: Майнинг в странах с разваленной экономикl on: April 17, 2021, 10:09:27 PM
врать не буду, не изучал, но вот буквально на днях мне рассказывал знакомый, что мини гэс до 100квт не требуют согласований, а ставить можно и на небольшой реке или большом ручье(только ручей промерзнет насквозь скорее всего зимой).

Ну разговор то шел про мегаваты изначально, там сплошное регулирование. Насчет реки/ручья прям сомневаюсь на 100% - построить то может и можно что, но за природопользование кто-нибудь да подтянет, в любом случае какие-то согласования нужны (если официально делать).
Ну и как заметил safar1980 при маленьких объемах себестоимость будет удручающая.
12818  Local / Майнеры / Re: ASIC ANTMINER E9 on: April 17, 2021, 09:59:05 PM
55 баксов в сутки при цене в 11к = окупаемость 200 дней. Вполне неплохо, особенно для тех кто уже цену асика отбил и теперь только бабло стрижет.
Интересно будет посмотреть на характеристики нового асика, хотя при таком спросе производитель может тупо парочку некритичных улучшений сделать и все равно раскупят на ура.
с новыми асиками обычно вопрос "когда его уже мне отдадутHuh" сначала анонс, потом предзаказ, потом изготовление, потом доставка(официальная версия событий. майнерская версия - всё это время они майнят на дядю изготовителя) - уже и месяца 2-3 прошло. и это в лучшем случае. более вероятно полгода

Это я в курсе, давно за битмайном слежу. Вообще пришел к выводу что заказанный асик окупается на следующем пампе  Grin Чтобы делать такие заказы у производителя надо либо железные нервы иметь либо уже налаженный поток (продаж или майнинга) когда будущие инвестиции уже как бы "отбиты" текущими прибылями.

А вы кстати, уважаемые практики-майнеры, как к таким асикам относитесь?
12819  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Tips on how to place sports bets on: April 17, 2021, 07:35:07 PM
My idea is that by collecting and analyzing information about the club and the players, we can get some information about their chances and if we are super successful in this, we can beat the bookmaker (theoretically), but this is not a strategy in the conventional sense this word. The strategy is very versatile, which can be applied in different conditions and should lead to approximately the same result. There is nothing like this in betting.

and remember, betting in sports, if you are truly familiar with such sport, has better chance of winning. rather than playing those luck-based games. if you breath and live a particular sport, you will know the potential of the club/players when they are already on the field. so the chance of winning is higher. this is why there are a lot that can make a living via sportsbetting.

By the way, I read the twitter of a former tennis pro - Kafelnikov, and sometimes he gives predictions for various sporting events (mainly tennis, but not only) and he turns out to be right very often. I have not checked how much stronger his predictions are from the bookmakers, but at first glance, he could beat them.
12820  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [BOXING POLL ADDED] FURY vs JOSHUA: A Two Fight Deal Has Already Been Signed !! on: April 17, 2021, 07:30:22 PM
Will the UK government begin allowing stadiums full of fans in the middle of a pandemic? It will be in Dubai. Their government has begun to allow fans to watch UFC events. Also, Eddie Hearn has met with Dana White. I speculate Hearn might be asking for information on how to organize it in Dubai.

https://i.ibb.co/kJMhpbq/3-A56219-A-B32-B-4-D7-D-AA1-D-5-BF605-D242-F0.jpg

Source https://mobile.twitter.com/EddieHearn/status/1382446576199667713

Judging by the timing, one should not find out how this can be organized, but already deal with the organization of the battle  Smiley
It will be great if the fight takes place with a full-fledged live audience, for example, football is very difficult to watch with empty stands, especially if not top teams are playing. In this fight, emotions will be fine anyway, but with a live crowd, the fight will be even more interesting.
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