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12801  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is their any safe methods to gamble? on: June 22, 2016, 02:41:30 PM
The best and safest way to gamble is to bet in sports games because then you can let the odds be on your favor.
By betting on the better team you will earn less money but the chances of winning are bigger.
There's no such thing as safe way to gamble, all thing has a risk. But sometimes those risk can be reduce and that's what other gamblers do. Reducing the risk is the reason why other people make things like strategies.
So what do you suggest to reduce the risk, I know there are a lot of good ideas but if you care to share then that would be helpful for the gamblers here who are not profitable in their gambling career.
12802  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What do you want to see in Bitcoin casinos? on: June 22, 2016, 02:37:58 PM
I would like to see bitcoin casino's do more for charity. All they do is taking away money from people.
Why not give a little bit back to people in need?
And because normal FIAT real world casinos are helping poor people all the time, right?
But I would rather see more generous promotions in a casinos, that I can verify myself, than possible empty claims that casino is supporting charity.
We cannot expect casinos to give charities because owners are greedy too just like their players. They are in real business and all in their mind is money, they don't think of the community because they do not have a social responsibility to do that.
12803  Economy / Speculation / Re: how much gonna be 1 BTC in a year? on: June 22, 2016, 02:31:02 PM
i like the stats of pooling
33% of vooter trust bitcoin will be rise to $1000

Question:    OK we have this opitions
1000    - 43 (33.6%)
600    - 24 (18.8%)
800    - 39 (30.5%)
700    - 16 (12.5%)
1    - 3 (2.3%)
BTC gonna be dead    - 3 (2.3%)
   
Total Voters: 128


1000 sounds doable. It may be less but i would be happy to see this pattern emerge

2014 200
2015 400
2016 800
2017 1600

It shots I can sell in 2018
That was a good pattern, I hope that 800 dollars will happen before the end of this year. I am also positive with the price of bitcoins and I know there is a good future for this coin, and as early adopters we will enjoy the benefits bitcoin has brought into our lives.
12804  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Should I invest in bitcoin casinos? on: June 22, 2016, 08:58:35 AM
investing in a bitcoin casino in my opinion is a good investment but it surely is not the best investment that you can do with your money.

this kind of investment is risky but has the potential to give you back a pretty good return if you are lucky and do it in long term.
Yeah long term investment is feasible, you won't make profit in the short term. there are schemes with short term profit most of them are probably scams(like those hyips).

Honestly they are not trusted and its better to stay away all of them are scam never heard that there is a legit one.. if you are lucky that you are making profit in investment site better to don't invest it again instead just hold it or use it in other activity..
Not really all the sites are scams. I have invested a few times with bitdice and others and have made quite decent profit. Yes but I agree that rather than investing saving is better as when you invest ( or just me ) then I get temped and gamble too Sad ending up divesting all money.

That is what gambling sites do. They say you can also invest here. There is a purpose for that of course. When you feel like the growth of your money is too slow just by investing it there then a time will come that would want to gamble it. Sure you will win sometimes but you will still lose at the end and you wont even feel it.
Well, that is part of their marketing but you don't have to be attracted with that as the basic rule in investing is discipline. Whatever you plan should be follow and do not do unnecessary things for you to succeed.
12805  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [PRE-ANN] WAVES. Ultimate crypto-tokens blockchain platform. on: June 22, 2016, 08:52:31 AM
polo say: no wave infos. wave is the worst after DAO.
You don't bellieve your own words. The best, it is the best.
That guy is a complete negative person for the waves. If you were able to see what the waves can do then you will understand how useful it is in the future. Biggest features of the waves is their KYC policy when transferring funds that were required by the AMLA to trace suspicious account and it major businesses will use waves, you will know the real value of waves.

Now is too early, and to tell you that waves were not crated for people to earn in the ICO alone.
12806  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2016 NBA Finals on: June 22, 2016, 08:46:10 AM
What a great series, shame that someone had to lose. The chess match was amazing. I honestly thought the series was over after the first after game 2. Unbelievable effort for the Cavs to win 4 of the next 5 vs the defending champs who just won 73 games.
They are both making a history but the biggest history made was on the cavaliers, they have won the championship even being the underdog to win the series. Lebron is making a lot of effort to win in the game and to think of the effort, they are making outstanding job coming from a 1-3 deficit to be able to win the NBA Finals.
Yeah they did do a pretty outstanding job by winning the series after being down 3-1 in the series. The GSW should have not given away the series but they did.
I still believe that if Green played in game 5 that the GSW would have won in 5 games because the GSW had the momentum.

But  he was suspended because of what he did. If he was not a bad boy and not committed too many technical fouls, then he could have played game 5. There is no turning back time and what is done is done. GSW lost this series. Cavs played a great series and they deserve to be the NBA 2016 Champions, there is no doubt about it.
Whatever happened that time already happen and we have known that the cavaliers have already taken the championship. The warriors are a strong team but the cavaliers were able to figure out the weakness of warriors and beat them in 3 games consistently. In the next season the warriors will be more inspired to play well because of the devastating loss.
12807  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is their any safe methods to gamble? on: June 22, 2016, 08:36:37 AM
for me there are no safe ways available, I only use low bets so you can not lose a lot of money but this is just a method to stay safe with gambling and not lose too much money. Other than that gambling is not safe at all, its depending on luck.
Low bets is not safe because it you lose and that will accumulate it will be huge. Just know your limits in gambling to stay in the safe zone, you should treat gambling as a pure entertainment that your need to spend money in order to gain satisfaction.
12808  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin to be international currency on: June 22, 2016, 08:01:54 AM
Maybe but not totally a currency because it is a decentralized digital currency and it will never be replace the US Dollar and it doesnt have a fixed price so i dont think that the government and almost all countries will accept bitcoin to be a international currency it will stay as a international digital currency .
I think that makes it decentralized bitcoin become a global currency. because there is no one who can control the bitcoin. so that bitcoin will become the most attractive currency
perhaps only a few companies will adopt bitcoin . if it 's a country that's not possible , because no one can control the bitcoin , and if that happens , there will be permanent damage to the economic system within a country . so we can not expect much more for bitcoin can be used comprehensively in their daily economic activities
It takes time to convince the masses to adopt bitcoins but later in the future, with the help of new technology and it could be easy for them to understand the real value of bitcoins then they will strongly adopt with it even if there is not support by the government.
12809  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What do you want to see in Bitcoin casinos? on: June 22, 2016, 07:54:05 AM

What do you want to see in Bitcoin casinos?
I want to see  live dealer in some casino games possibly with dealer young and beautiful woman  Cheesy
I feel the live dealer games are fairer  IMO
About this whole live dealing thing: we have plenty of casinos already having 'live' sections - Fortune Jack has it, Jetwin has it, and many more - the point being - it is not that rare anymore.
But about live dealing being fairer - I don't have opinion on that - just watch this short YouTube video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vWYsGzayJMs and tell me that live dealing is foolproof


I don't buy that thing also, we cannot assure that games online are not rigged, that is why I only focus on sports betting rather than playing online poker, dice, and other related games.
12810  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Did gambling get you into Bitcoin or did Bitcoin get you into gambling? on: June 22, 2016, 07:50:05 AM
I never play gambling, but after getting to know bitcoin so I playing gambling. so bitcoin has brought me into gambling.

I never gambled before either.... also started with Bitcoin
Me, it is a different thing with your guys, ever since I am already a gambler and I love to try more type of games because I enjoy it a lot when playing. Until I discover bitcoins which gives me the opportunity to gamble even more and by doing it a home is really convenient, your winning or losing percentage will increase.
12811  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What keeps you coming back??? on: June 22, 2016, 07:33:47 AM
Money is not why you come back every time it's just that you need the money to play.
you're addicted to the game if you play much not even addicted to the money. because if you're addicted
to your money you won't gamble it. Smiley
I beg to disagree with our statement, I strongly believe that what makes people coming back in gambling because they want to win big and the reality is if there is no money at stake gambling would be boring and I don't know if you called that gambling anymore.
12812  Economy / Economics / Re: Short term high target reached on: June 22, 2016, 07:29:53 AM
That is true, with current price now those who invested a month before have already enjoyed a great profit now. This really great for the risk takers as the halving effect is really happening.

Aside from halving, they said that its the chinese that are buying btc's that it help push upwards the bitcoin price. Those who are for short term traders,  or those who buys a month ago are on real profits now. Im still hoping BTC will gain further.
It would happen again and another skyrocket by the BTC in the next few days. I believe the price will still rise and the halving effect is in the air. Buying now is a good option because the price is falling so you can wait until it will start rising again then buy.
I agree with you, I still believe that the hype is around. Maybe the dump on the coin we see is just a normal marketplace transaction and trade volume that happens everyday or if not Im still hoping that its just some users trying to secure profits.

I believe there may be only 2 scenarios that will play out here.

Scenario 1 is as my above post, a shake out to get rid of weak hands followed by a continued pump once the time is right. This is a pretty good way to go.

scenario 2 is that the whales know fine well that a majority of people here are wanting to get out at around 800-1000 dollars,this is no secret. now the whales aren't stupid so they know they cant allow it to pump this high or else everyone will run off with their profits, so the price will never reach this high. The target was met and we are now either stagnant or on the way down.
Your 2nd scenario seems reasonable for big whales to dump some coin before it hit specific price for people who's waiting a specific number to sell. But Im still hoping that this what we call big whales does not dump the coins price that much.
Regardless, the price of bitcoins trend on fall back and rising is way more different. When the price rise it is like skyrocketing but the fall back is slowly so that could mean that the rise trend is more dominant and with that being said we can still witness the price to rise again.
12813  Economy / Speculation / Re: PANIC BUYING !!!!!!! on: June 22, 2016, 07:21:56 AM
Now the price has been decreasing, so it looks to be the time for the users who missed chances of buying at low price. Probably the price increases on halving so without panic on the decrease users can make buying.

I agree. Some are saying that the price will drop to 250-300 in the couple of days but I don't beleive this. It's normal fluctuation in.price but it will go up again, so there is still a chance to buy some coins now and make profit later.
If that will happen I will gladly buy a huge number of bitcoins and I will risk my life savings for that, I know the price will rise so if ever the price will go down it will rise up still in the next future.
12814  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [PRE-ANN] WAVES. Ultimate crypto-tokens blockchain platform. on: June 22, 2016, 06:59:12 AM
sale your waves and run ..THIS IS JUST AN EPIC FAIL!!!! this project will never be successful!!! you will keep listening sashas lies..and the prive slowly will go to  0 !!!  
I appreciate your opinion but I don't believe on your accusation, I believe in waves and I know it has a good future ahead. Those people who are saying that this is an epic fail will regret when the price will hit to the moon.
12815  Economy / Economics / Re: CNBC: "Bitcoin is the new safe-haven asset" on: June 21, 2016, 09:04:45 AM
I agree on the news, and if people would understand it we can witness a massive adoption in the future. This is safe in my opinion because of the main reason that it is decentralized, the function is not controlled by a specific entity and the good in IT will do every to protect the system from hackers because they have also invested and entrust they coins in blockchain.
12816  Economy / Speculation / Re: 626 $ what!?!? Halving incoming.. on: June 21, 2016, 09:00:07 AM
I saw $750 today, it's so amazing to see bitcoin this high, i think that people who working with bitcoin is so happy now. How much time it's gonna rise up?

Price will keep on rising till we reach to the halving, so hold  your coins for the halving to earn higher profits as halving will show us some best price of bitcoin.

I think so too. The only negative about this is that when the block halving is over, the price will fall down very hard. I just hope the price will not fall back much lower than $500 after all the dumpings.
In my opinion, I don't think the price will fall down hard after the halving, we understand the price increase is necessary for the miners to stay profitable in their operation and they vital in maintaining the system of blockchain.
12817  Economy / Economics / Re: Future of Bitcoin Economics on: June 21, 2016, 08:51:12 AM
Future of Bitcoin Economics depends on mass adoption of Bitcoin. No body can predict accurately the true future of Bitcoin.
As long as we keep on using Bitcoin it will keep becoming bigger. So as long as we keep trading with bitcoins and selling bitcoins and keep our interest, it will stay.

So I mean, bitcoin has a good looking future.
Of course we all know that bitcoins has a good future, but it will not grow if people who are using bitcoins is only focusing on trading which they profit from the price fluctuations of bitcoins. I like to see a good companies to adopt bitcoins that would increase the market bitcoins circulation and it will only happen if we will spread the news to anyone.
12818  Economy / Economics / Re: How to save money. on: June 21, 2016, 08:46:51 AM
When ever u have money. What some people predict in future it will be good to buy even if its double then now.
It also depends what u plan to do with them. Saving or trading, maybe some other investment.. u have a lot of choices all u need to do is to find best for you.



If you want to grow your money in future then investment is the key, but saving is also good as you have access to your money whenever you want so it can help you at the time of emergencies.
Agree on this. A portion of your total assets must always be liquid and easily accessible, just so you'd have readily available cash whenever the need arises. This is where banks are of great help. Investments are something that should be thought of properly to make the most out of it and at the same time avoid being scammed or duped.
Of course that is important, you don't need to put your money only in one basket as it is not advisable. Whether you are saving or investing you need to have a concrete plan in accessing you money, banks is good for savings because you savings is subject for insurance if anything goes wrong with the bank.
12819  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [PRE-ANN] WAVES. Ultimate crypto-tokens blockchain platform. on: June 21, 2016, 08:28:14 AM
People getting rid of WAVES like the plague...Not surprising to be honest!  Roll Eyes

Meanwhile early investors in LISK sit on a peaceful x3 profit. Smiley

maybe the days of profitable ICOs are over, or waves is just an exception ?

It is OVER!!! Wink

Cause speculators already understand that will be very good to put money on one ICO wait exchange, take x10 and wait to another ICO for profit Grin Grin Grin

It must be very good lesson for this people( speculators)

Cheers
Man, too early to judge. Waves is just starting out and you will only conclude that it has no future if until 3 months from now the price will not increase. DAO have their time too but those people who has patience will not worry about what happen today.
12820  Economy / Economics / Re: Is it better to save money or invest it? on: June 21, 2016, 08:25:26 AM
Investment is the part of savings
Saving money in terms of bitcoin is now better than save it your money in bank because bitcoin now has a good value it is continuous give to us income.
Definitely, banks only offers little interest while with bitcoins you will earn more than compounded interest depending the movement of the market. With bitcoins, you can also support it by spreading the good news so that we can achieve massive adoption that would affect our investment positively.
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