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12881  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Bitgold - how legit is it ? on: July 16, 2015, 05:23:31 PM
They may be legit, I don't know. But consider the concept. It is a copy of what is normally called "paper gold". When you buy the gold you do not get actual gold but a share of gold that is (supposedly) held by the issuer. IMO, that is a very distant second place to owning gold. Doesn't it make way more sense to buy gold? Real gold you can hold in your hand?

Actually it seems like the website do allow you to get Physical gold when you withraw :

   -big picture-
Hmm.. That is better. But I wonder what I would be paying per Oz. after the fees and shipping costs?

They looks shitty to be honest , for those who wanna buy , they better buy it from their local stores or of course if they know a lot of people , they can use referal and get shitload of grams then redeem once they have 1kg .

12882  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Bitgold - how legit is it ? on: July 16, 2015, 05:11:46 PM
They may be legit, I don't know. But consider the concept. It is a copy of what is normally called "paper gold". When you buy the gold you do not get actual gold but a share of gold that is (supposedly) held by the issuer. IMO, that is a very distant second place to owning gold. Doesn't it make way more sense to buy gold? Real gold you can hold in your hand?

Actually it seems like the website do allow you to get Physical gold when you withraw :

12883  Economy / Invites & Accounts / Re: [WTS] Facebook Account Related to Bitcoin on: July 16, 2015, 05:06:06 PM
If GamingOn didn't  buy from you yet , could you please share the Facebook profile + the Facebook page please . I may be interessted on taking the account . (Send private message if you don't want to share the link on the topic)
12884  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Purchasing Bitcoin (Security, Identification requirements) on: July 16, 2015, 05:04:37 PM
If you don't want to reveal any of your real informations then I suggest you to trade here on Bitcointalk . no one is going to ask you for your ID or passport or residence or any kind of documents .
However you should use something that people use , like Paypal (most likely they won't deal with you because there chargeback and you are a newbie) , you didn't mention which Credit card you have but if you have something famous like Neteller then you have high chance to be able to trade here . Chargeback is difficult to do and they punish who do it as far as I know , so you could use them and people should trust you I guess .
12885  Economy / Lending / Re: Need $100 Loan 1 Month on: July 16, 2015, 04:44:41 PM
"The rule of "No Collateral, No Loan" means that in order to get a loan you must give collateral that is equal, or preferably higher to the amount you are being loaned.

If you completely ignore this sticky and make a loan request with no collateral, without having massive trust on the forum, the chances of you getting negative trusted feedback and therefore having a Trade with Extreme Caution tag is almost 100%."


And you ignored indeed the sticky thread . this is not a valid collateral mate .
I'd suggest you to close the thread before getting some red trust because your account worth nothing . like 0.05 BTC if not less
12886  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Laundry/Mixer on: July 16, 2015, 04:40:50 PM
Hey guys,

Do mixers actually work? In terms of blocking previous addresses that coin has came from? How likely would you, to be able to trace back the origin of payments?

Cheers guys

tully Smiley

Yes they do work & It's still tracable but it makes it a lot harder and need a lot of efforts to do that.
Hopefully the Darkwallet will be fully funded and we will be able to make fully annonymus transaction pretty soon .
12887  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: - A Mining Newbie looking for answers - on: July 16, 2015, 03:38:42 PM
An S5 (or S1, S2, S3, S4, S4+, U2, U3) can be used to mine any coin that uses SHA256D.  For example, BTC, NMC, HUC, MZC, CURE, TAK, PPC... all can be mined with that hardware.

Coins like LTC, DOGE, DASH, etc cannot be mined with that because they use different hashing algorithms (Scrypt, X11, etc).

Understood & thanks for taking time to answer me to all my newbie questions , I just didn't got into mining and was never interessted till now . even if I'am a Senior Member Grin
12888  Economy / Digital goods / Re: [Free] Anomaly: Warzone Earth on Steam on: July 16, 2015, 03:32:47 PM
I wouldn't say no to this.
Thanks!

I'd love this man thanks! Free steam game? Who wouldn't LOL

Both keys has been sent , please edit your post if the keys are fully functional and worked without any issues Smiley
12889  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: - A Mining Newbie looking for answers - on: July 16, 2015, 03:31:40 PM
thanks for all your answers
I know , I'am not that old so I guess I really can hold my bitcoins till 5-10 years without having any issues.
Speaking about cloud mining which I never understood and never will most likely , how the hell and why the hell someone would pay BTC to get BTC ? I just don't understand. Cloud mining is letting companies mine for you , correct ? so you give them money so you generate BTC , well why do I pay BTC to get BTC (probably less) ?  Huh im only one not getting it ?
You actually understand it perfectly Smiley.  Legit cloud mining companies own hardware and they mine with it.  They sell you shares of that mining equipment.  For example, let's say I'm a cloud mining provider.  I have a very small operation with only a single 1TH/s miner.  I'm going to sell you that 1TH/s contract.  So, in our example, I as the provider paid 1BTC for the miner.  I'm selling you that same 1TH/s for 1.5BTC.  As the provider, I've now made my money back plus some profit.  Earnings from the miner are now paid out to you... and oh yeah, I probably am going to charge you maintenance fees (I've got to cover the operating costs after all).  Now, I've got 1.5BTC, so I go and buy myself another 1TH/s miner.  I've still got 0.5BTC profit and I've got another miner that I can sell a contract for to somebody else.

You as the person who bought the contract are getting paid out based on whatever the miner earns minus any operating costs.  You are hoping that this contract will make you back more than the 1BTC you initially paid for it.  Typically, if and when the cost to operate the miner exceeds what the miner pays out, the contract is terminated.

The primary difference between cloud mining and having somebody host your gear is that with cloud mining, you don't own the hardware.  The cloud mining provider has already made his profit from selling you the contract.  Basically it's a game where you're hedging against the cloud mining provider.


Yeah well , you willl most likely won't get back what you paid , so I don't think it really worth it , I'd prefer mining my own with my own gears at my own home.

One more question about Mining, can A miner [Taking ANTMINER S5 as example] Be user to mine different coins ? or each coin have different type of miners ?
12890  Economy / Digital goods / Re: [Free] Anomaly: Warzone Earth on Steam on: July 16, 2015, 02:57:38 PM
What , no one want free Steam games Shocked Feel free to post below
12891  Economy / Digital goods / Re: Looking for anonymous credit cards on: July 16, 2015, 09:01:26 AM
I need an anonymous physical credit card which can also be linked to a paypal account and doesn't need to be verified with an ID.

Most likely two options without a third one :

  • Create only Virtual card from advcash.com and load with money so you can use it to Verify paypal (don't need any kind of verification)
  • Buy it from another user here on the forums (check the goods section)

However it wouldn't make sense , since you are going to give your name ,adress etc to the sender too so it wouldn't be annonymus
12892  Economy / Digital goods / Re: WTB Can someone make me a BlackJack Bot??? on: July 16, 2015, 08:38:28 AM
Does anyone know where I can advertise this? for a better response

Yes , you could move it to the Service section instead of Digital goods it's where developpers and programmers head to do jobs or ask for them.
But you should give more informations (Programming language etc ... ) the more specific you are , the better because people are lazy and don't want to ask further questions so you better put all things you want them done .
12893  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: - A Mining Newbie looking for answers - on: July 16, 2015, 08:18:50 AM
You're living with your parents.  Even if the electric costs them only $0.05 per kWh, you start plugging in miners and they're going to notice the increase in the bill.

An S3 will cost them about $12.41 a month.  An S5 will run them about $21.54 a month.  This assumes that $0.05 is what they actually pay.


Life is not that hard where I'am basically if you make 500$ per month you live without any issues, also I don't think they will mind I will even tell them before buynig it .
I guess that's cheap for the S3 miner , how much I will be making with it daily ? just approxmiate to see if I'am going to make some decent amount or not (in BTC) since it's long term

long term is a crazy word in the mining world. Make sure you have long term plan to keep your miner alive as well as enough time to upgrade things as per the instruction of the pool owner (assuming you are not going for solo mining, which is absurd with the hash power you are going to have). There are some decent options in cloud mining world. Explore them before investing in hardware...

thanks for all your answers
I know , I'am not that old so I guess I really can hold my bitcoins till 5-10 years without having any issues.
Speaking about cloud mining which I never understood and never will most likely , how the hell and why the hell someone would pay BTC to get BTC ? I just don't understand. Cloud mining is letting companies mine for you , correct ? so you give them money so you generate BTC , well why do I pay BTC to get BTC (probably less) ?  Huh im only one not getting it ?
12894  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: - A Mining Newbie looking for answers - on: July 15, 2015, 08:31:39 PM
You're living with your parents.  Even if the electric costs them only $0.05 per kWh, you start plugging in miners and they're going to notice the increase in the bill.

An S3 will cost them about $12.41 a month.  An S5 will run them about $21.54 a month.  This assumes that $0.05 is what they actually pay.


Life is not that hard where I'am basically if you make 500$ per month you live without any issues, also I don't think they will mind I will even tell them before buynig it .
I guess that's cheap for the S3 miner , how much I will be making with it daily ? just approxmiate to see if I'am going to make some decent amount or not (in BTC) since it's long term
12895  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Got scammed by selene on: July 15, 2015, 06:57:54 PM
Link to all screenshots. I can't believe it because it's my second time in 1 week.
And the password reset was after the deal :/
http://imgur.com/a/TIpeP

Post that on the original post above . Also that dosen't proove what you sent him and what he sent you .
So here you go (always post in OP) and he will receive negative feedback (if proof is valid) :
  • Screen your Skrill account showing that you sent to that adress
  • Screen + post the adress you gave him to pay to .
I really feel sorry for you man , but it's kinda your fault because you didn't use escrow ... TWICE !
12896  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Got scammed by selene on: July 15, 2015, 06:26:02 PM
I can't find anyone by that name , do you mean this one https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=222788 ? Selene72 ?
I see indeed a password change recently , you had to check his trust before trading with him and the value of his trades wasen't really that much and you went directly trading with him without using any Middleman .

To be honest , if he went he will never come back because his account don't worth 1 BTC and he have nothing to lose on leaving , he can just make a new account on this forum .

However you should post some proofs (PM screenshots or whatever you used to contact with him) then we can judge and people will leave him negative feedback if needed .

EDit : come on man ..; you got also scammed here ? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1122194.0 , you have to learn from your lessons and not do the same mistake twice and it's even worst this time ... :/ the people that you can trade with them without using an escrow are known like monbux , master-p , devthedev , Muhammed Zakir  or escrows which handle more then those amounts usually . but trusted a random senior member after a bad experience isn't the best idea to be honest
12897  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: - A Mining Newbie looking for answers - on: July 15, 2015, 06:13:26 PM
Antminer is one of the major retailers for ASICS, this calculator will help you get details Smiley
http://www.vnbitcoin.org/bitcoincalculator.php


Those are the results I got , not sure if I modified everything as should be :/
http://www.vnbitcoin.org/detailcalculation.php?name=AntMiner_S4_2000Gh/s&startdate=2015-07-15&costperunit=799&wattperhour=1400&gigahazarate=2000&daytoincrease=14&testlopfirst=10&diffincrement=1.44&bitcoinperdollar=284.54&electriccostinput=.05&begindifflevel=51076366303

How good are they ?

I never got into mining and I never got interessted on it but this time I was watching this Bitcoin Documentary called "The Bitcoin Phenomenon" and I heard Gavin saying that he used to mine before using his old Laptop and it worked (I'd assume it's not working anymore)

I see a lot of stuff called ANTMINER S2 S3 S4 S5 and stuff , I will also assume that those are used for Mining , correct me if I'am wrong ? I want to know how much do they cost and how much time is needed to earn x BTC and to get back what I invested on them .

I know there is different Hardwares or whatever their names is , so feel fre eto give the different pricing etc ...
Note that Pricing here is about :  0.05$ / kw AFAIK .

You only pay 5 cents a KW/hr...

HOly shit you should be mining, Kijiji is your friend, Grab an S3,S4 or S5.  S5 being the best choice or buy off of Bitmaintech.com, I have bought from them 3 times, everytime I got my stuff within a week, matching their stats posted perfectly.

Yeah I would buy i guess but that the issue for now , I can't since I'am afraid those things don't arrive to my home if buy them . and I can't really afford huge amounts of money to be honest even if they are full profit and I don't have bills to pay or to buy food etc because I live with my parents and im just a teenager
Only things that arrive are Credit cards from companies like Payoneer , Neteller etc .. or small stuff like Necklace or Watch or something
but I may ask my brother to buy me one because he is going to UK soon .
12898  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2015-07-14] Crowdfunded documentary “Bitcoin: The End Of Money” is live on: July 15, 2015, 05:58:15 PM
I think €5 for online streaming is okay for such a documentary. But it's funny that you can not pay with Bitcoins to watch the movie  Cheesy

You can , look the post I posted above . Once you skip preview they give you the ability to scan the QR code or send to the bitcoin adress to see the movie .
EDIT the OP so people see the link btw Wink however you had to put it on Bitcoin Discussion or something so more people see it .
12899  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / - A Mining Newbie looking for answers - on: July 15, 2015, 05:26:15 PM
I never got into mining and I never got interessted on it but this time I was watching this Bitcoin Documentary called "The Bitcoin Phenomenon" and I heard Gavin saying that he used to mine before using his old Laptop and it worked (I'd assume it's not working anymore)

I see a lot of stuff called ANTMINER S2 S3 S4 S5 and stuff , I will also assume that those are used for Mining , correct me if I'am wrong ? I want to know how much do they cost and how much time is needed to earn x BTC and to get back what I invested on them .

I know there is different Hardwares or whatever their names is , so feel fre eto give the different pricing etc ...
Note that Pricing here is about :  0.05$ / kw AFAIK .
12900  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin is NOT a currency debate! on: July 15, 2015, 05:07:39 PM
Why he get a refund of the value , It should be 1 BTC and not the value on USD .
Let's say you loaned here 0.1 BTC , you will give back 0.1 BTC (unless interesst) no matter how the price is . and that's why for example Theymos left "VIP" rank for people who donate 50 BTC even with the price change over the years , because 50 BTC = 50 BTC .
So you can call it whatever you want , it wouldn't make any difference IMHO
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