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12901  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: How bitcoin price is calculated exactly ? on: July 15, 2015, 04:41:22 PM
As far as I know the price depend on supply and demand.
For other factors such as :
Goverment Policy: if goverment accept bitcoin as legal payment, the value might be increase

I know that's pretty logic , people will wonder what Bitcoin is from curiousity and end up using it at the end and since Goverment is allowing it and using it then people will buy more and more (more demand) => rise price . I understand that .

Actually, price determination is a pretty complex process.
If there is a market (enough buy and sell orders) then the price will be determined by supply and demand.
Between exchanges (and other places where buying or selling takes place) there is some amount of arbitrage (when you can buy BTC at one exchange for $285 and can sell them at another exchange for $295, some folks will buy on one exchange and sell on the other, adjusting supply, demand and prices on both exchanges.)

Without markets, determining a price is difficult. Remember the classic bitcoin pizza? At that time, a future price of $1 per Bitcoin was considered pretty much impossible, so Bitcoin was valued much less than that. Later on, when it became clear that you could not only buy pizza with BTC, people were gradually willing to value it more.

Onkel Paul

the pizza example makes sense and it's a very good example to explain things Grin
highlly appreciate your help man
12902  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Documentary on Bitcoin - Summary Thread on: July 15, 2015, 03:37:02 PM
It was released today.


Anywhere to download a decent copy of it for free or is it just available to stream on youtube?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yQGQXy0RIIo Well you can download it from YouTube maybe ?
12903  Economy / Computer hardware / Re: is there any site sell hardware for btc on: July 15, 2015, 03:27:02 PM
Yes bit-x does work and can be shiped to Algeria indeed , and yes I know your  , most of the time , anything via internet can't be received and will be lost on the mail or whataver .

However I'am not using Bit-x (received it though) since there is high fees but there is http://advcash.com/en/ which gives lower fees and it's very cheap (5$ for the plastic card) , owner told me that It can be used to verify paypal (you need money on the card) .

But I guess MasterCard don't verify fully Paypal nowdays , you need Visa card issued in Algeria or Bank account from U.S
Visa cards of those banks (in algeria) works on Paypal :  BNP PARIBAS , Gulf Bank (AGB)
12904  Economy / Computer hardware / Re: is there any site sell hardware for btc on: July 15, 2015, 02:10:41 PM
Who knew that I will find an Algerian like me on Bitcointalk one day , I didn't Grin
On topic : you could try the "Hardware" section or the "goods" section and search for someone who could sell you one and ship it to Algeria or you could try Ebay and try to Aliexpress (since I know that Amazon don't ship to our country) (most of sellers don't)

EDIT 1 : nvm , didn't see that you need to pay BTC only
Link from quick search : http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_odkw=Hardware&_osacat=0&_from=R40&_trksid=p2045573.m570.l1313.TR0.TRC0.H0.XAntminer.TRS0&_nkw=Antminer&_sacat=0

EDIT 2 : use https://purse.io/ , you may find someone who is ready to sell you whatever you need and ship it to Algeria in same time  
12905  Economy / Digital goods / [Free] Anomaly: Warzone Earth on Steam on: July 15, 2015, 01:51:46 PM
I'am giving Anomaly: Warzone Earth on Steam since i found a .txt file on my PC which seems pretty old and it contains some keys for this game .

Post below and I will contact you with one key .
12906  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: How bitcoin price is calculated exactly ? on: July 15, 2015, 01:43:28 PM

When someone wants to buy bitcoin at a certain price, and another person wants to sell bitcoin at the same price, the buy order and sell order will be matched. The trade will be executed and then we will get a price.
Each exchange has its own order book, so it is normal to have a different price on a different exchange.



Actually I said "I don't see how a lot of exchange have the same price " , Just different of 1-2 bucks or sometimes cents I know .
Other then that how it will be calculated if we don't use exchange and how it was before creating any exchanges before
12907  Other / Beginners & Help / How bitcoin price is calculated exactly ? on: July 15, 2015, 01:31:11 PM

So how the bitcoin price is calculated exactly , yes Supply and demand but how ?? I mean at the beggining I'am pretty sure there wasen't any exchange and now there is a lot ... but even if exchange I don't see how a lot of exchange have the same price :/ pretty sure I'am missing something here

Most of all ... What will happen if we stop using exchanges or all exchange gets closed ? (I know it's most likely impossible) but just theorically so I understand how things works , that time how the price going to be calculated
12908  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: If someone could make a wallet that does offline transactions... on: July 15, 2015, 01:18:44 PM
for 12 hours then posts them all onto the blockchain... THAT'd be great.

How do you profit?

Charge x amount per offline transaction, then when 12 hours is up put a fee to process all the transactions at less than what you have collected from your transaction cost, boom, you know you'll get your tx send within 12 hours and the "company" profits from it.

What do you mean by offline transaction , do you mean without internet ? I don't think that's possible .
If you are speaking about Off-chain transactions then those projects are already being working on them to make bitcoin more annonymus like Zerocoin & Darkwallet which need funding for the moment AFAIK .

Zerocoin / Zerocash : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=362468.10
Darkwallet project : https://www.darkwallet.is/
12909  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Documentary on Bitcoin - Summary Thread on: July 15, 2015, 11:13:38 AM
Change the status of "Bitcoin : The end of money as we know it "
It's released and available here & on vimeo : https://www.theprotocol.tv/bitcoin-the-end-of-money-as-we-know-it/ however it's not free . It seems like we should pay 6$ BTC to see it
12910  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Countdown to Litecoin Block Reward Halving on: July 15, 2015, 10:44:47 AM
40 days

What controls the halving block reward , is it changed from Bitcoin source code ? because if it's not then how come Litecoin halving is before bitcoin halving while Bitcoin was created before Litecoin  Huh #confused
12911  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2015-07-14] Crowdfunded documentary “Bitcoin: The End Of Money” is live on: July 15, 2015, 10:32:20 AM
Looks good , I just saw the preview on ProtocoleTV https://www.theprotocol.tv/bitcoin-the-end-of-money-as-we-know-it/ and it looks awesome Grin I may get it once I get paid from my signature compaign
12912  Other / Meta / Re: Bitcointalk DB on darknet! on: July 15, 2015, 10:10:29 AM


Meh , so there is nothing really to worry about . It's from the last month as he stated and the whole world changed his password already . and who didn't .. well it's his fault .
He will probably never be able to sell it with that price at least not while people changed passwords.
12913  Economy / Digital goods / Re: WTS 2 Sr. Member Account on: July 15, 2015, 09:53:14 AM
will buy the second one for 1.3 BTC , let me know if you are interested. Smiley

Shocked lol , he is selling it for 0.25 and you are offering 1.3 BTC  Huh
I can get you one if that's the case lel
12914  Other / Meta / Re: Bitcointalk DB on darknet! on: July 15, 2015, 09:46:18 AM
What the ... Please post some pictures like the user above suggested .
Theymos didn't inform us on anything and I'am pretty sure he know how things are on the database , maybe the guy is faking or selling an old database since 20 May (or something) hack . Did he mentioned the date of when the database got hacked ?
12915  Economy / Speculation / Re: $10K by the end of 2016 on: July 15, 2015, 09:42:44 AM
do you guys think it is possible? Cool

I don't have that much bitcoin to care but that would be more then great , at least I can buy my own car at the age of 18  Roll Eyes that would be awesome . anything can happens after July 2016 since there is the block halving reward . Let's hope everything goes smooth
12916  Other / MultiBit / Re: MultiBit 0.1.2 released on: July 15, 2015, 09:40:19 AM
Good job on the awesome work, however is there is any reason why the wallet is little bit laggy ? I noticed that when I switch between different tabs "Send / Receive" to "Payement" or something , it's kinda laggy and takes some time to load GUI the other tab Shocked It's not taking long time but  you just feel it :/
You click => wait seconds => then you get the other tab
12917  Economy / Digital goods / Re: [FREE] 2 Money Methods on: July 15, 2015, 09:10:27 AM
Sent the methods to everyone!

PM me if you'd like a copy. Smiley

Hey again mate , so it depends on the country indeed , I invited some people and it depends on country
However i want to know was you able to withraw them ? It says "Pending" and when I put mouse on the text it gives me a ToolTip saying that it's under 60 days bonus or some crap like that Shocked any idea
12918  Economy / Services / Re: OPEN SPOTS [BIT-X.com] Earn Bitcoins by Posting | Signature Campaign on: July 15, 2015, 06:36:26 AM
I know you may and you may not read this message Marcotheminer/ Bitcoin_boy$ however .. I will say it
you should stop using TypeWriter on the website because it's so annoying and I can't even stand staying on the website more then two seconds. i'am speaking about that message above the textbox where we should type our Profile UID saying " Signature Campaign" and "Earn Bitcoin" etc ...
It's annoying because the page size keep changing and stuff :/ nah im not trolling . would be very appreciated if you could do that .
For changes , I guess you should make a thread on Service section so we post our ideas about upcoming changes because this is not the best thread to do that .
12919  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: I hacked (database) Bitcoin private keys but i cant get the money out :( ????? ? on: July 14, 2015, 06:47:46 PM
I'am not trolling , i'am just saying what I've seen couple of days ago or something , there was a thread with the exact same thing (not sure if OP is the same guy , can't find the topic) .
and people was answering they he won't be able to spend them or it's soooo hard to spend them . so yeah
@OP and idk .. maybe I'am not cool with the fact that you are scamming and hacking people money . pretty sure you won't like getting hacked
12920  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: I hacked (database) Bitcoin private keys but i cant get the money out :( Help ? on: July 14, 2015, 06:31:15 PM
And me who was trying to help you on https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1122225 ... seems like Elwar here was right . You just earned some more negative trust . and btw you will never be able to spend those BTC's
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