Intanto il popolo si chiede quando arriverà il resoconto mensile dell illustrissimo fillippone  Sono in colpevole ritardo. Forse in questo uggioso weekend arriverà, in extremis. Scusate, troppi cantieri da sorvegliare, nipoti da accompagnare, e pizze con @babo e @duesoldi. Però volendo potresti già fare il resoconto mensile di febbraio e marzo! 2 al prezzo di 1! Così ti perdoniamo per l'attesa e ti facciamo anche una Rain di merit 😁😁 |
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0-0 at the end of the first half in the clash between Inter vs Fiorentina, many chances at San Siro but no goals, Inter seem to have lost their form and by now we have noticed it for quite a few matches, Fiorentina are very dangerous, save the Onana result with two good saves
Fiorentinas attack paid off and they won the match 0-1 and this is a big win for them. This gives them hope to try and grab that europe spot even tho that they are still far away. For Inter this is terrible because Atalanta won and Milan can overtake them really soon. I've been an Inter fan since I was born and I don't remember an Inter so ugly to look at, congratulations to Fiorentina who believed in this victory to the end! unfortunately for us coach Inzaghi is not suitable for coaching a great team like Inter! I hope the management takes serious action because it's really vile with 10 games left in the championship to have already made 10 defeats! In my opinion, this is a provincial attitude and not that of a great team, which in this way also puts qualification in the Champions League at risk |
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Guarda, io non credo che ci siano persone che credano agli inflencer girano in ferrari e che promettono mega guadagni coi bitcoin . Mi spiace darti una brutta notizia ma il mondo è pieno di creduloni  Basti pensare che le truffe del principe nigeriano circolano ancora oggi, da quanto tempo sono in giro? 20, 30 anni? C'erano già ai tempi del fax. Il discorso di fondo è sempre uno: tutti credono di essere più intelligenti e di aver trovato l'occasione per diventare ricchi nel giro di pochissimo tempo con pochissimi fondi. È nella natura umana. Anche 100... https://youtu.be/xOWxhPzrA44Tra gli influencer va molto Dubai con sfondo di Lamborghini, difficilmente vedrete un influencer che fa vedere la ricchezza, vera, in contesti in cui non si può gonfiare ricchezza o semplicemente fare figurare ricchezza o presunta tale. Fateci caso, molto raramente o anche mai, avrete visto un influencer che vi parla dalla sua tenuta vitivinicola. Non 3 ettari dove fanno il Tavernello, tenuta, tenuta... Difficilmente vedrete un influencer che vi parla dopo aver partecipato ad una partita di polo, ma sarà anche estremamente raro che possiate vedere un influencer che racconta qualcosa dalla sua scuderia di cavalli da corsa. Perché sono tutte cose che non si noleggiano, o si affittano e ci vogliono davvero fiumi di denaro contante, tutti insieme, ed ulteriori contanti continuativamente... non ci sono rate, leasing, finanziamenti, outlet... ...una Lamborghini, una super car, la comprano tutti, poi sta in garage, paghi qualche migliaio di euro di superbollo l'anno o la tieni all'estero e più o meno... Quelli che dicono di guadagnare milioni... che ci facciano vedere che vanno a comprare un cavallo, sportivo, con qualche 100k poi, lo mantengono mesi, magari in spazi propri... eh... già più difficile. Questioni di s C'è il ricco normale, il ricco ricco, tipo doppio dado Star poi c'è il ricco vero che essendo realmente ricco non ha nemmeno bisogno di fare l'influencer e quindi non si vede. Tutto estremamente vero ciò che hai detto, in realtà neanche ci avevo mai fatto caso a questo. Ma reputo il 99% degli influencers solo appariscenti pagati ad hoc per pubblicità mirata, purtroppo la nuova generazione è abbastanza credulona e andrà sempre peggio. L'unico influencer che guardo con piacere è Michele Monopoli che mi fa sganassare dalle risate perché prende per il c..o gli altri influencer https://www.instagram.com/reel/Co9Qhv6gr22/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y= |
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0-0 at the end of the first half in the clash between Inter vs Fiorentina, many chances at San Siro but no goals, Inter seem to have lost their form and by now we have noticed it for quite a few matches, Fiorentina are very dangerous, save the Onana result with two good saves
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Brutte cose le ricompense per il minimo di Bitcoin saranno infinitesimali ma scommetto che nessuno di quelli che minano smetterà
Beh le ricompense ridurranno ogni 4 anni purtroppo, ma dubito che i miner smetteranno di fare il loro lavoro, ad ogni halving si è assistito ad un pump del prezzo! Non è una regola fissa e potrebbe non ripetersi ma è altamente probabile, e poi il concetto di scarsità farà il suo decorso sperando in un rialzo abbastanza considerevole e oltre ath , quindi i miner sono comunque invogliati a continuare per poi vendere le loro ricompense al mercato |
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Did that alleged 2019 ETH hack ever make the news? I have no recollection of reading about it in this thread. As for Italian law stating capital gains of €2000 and more should be declared, that might be down to personal tax issues. For companies or corporations it will probably be using a different format. Having said that I do find strange all these years had passed and Rock Trading were not checked or audited independently. They probably filed annual accounts as with most companies around the world but exactly which figures were stated is an altogether different issue. in 2019 they had a hack of over 900 eth, subsequently declared and then budgeted and capped the loss with own funds (according to TRT)! that something was wrong could already be guessed but no one has ever investigated the accounts of TRT, think that the auditing firm which had the obligation to validate the financial statements after the appropriate checks did not even notice the loss of 15-20 million ! as you say, and I fully agree with the Italian laws often leave something to be desired! rightly so if you make a capital gain of over €2000 you have to declare it, please, but if you lose 15-20 million you turn a blind eye there is almost nothing around the web about the defeats of the rock trading, unfortunately it is one of the Italian mysteries, but I have to correct myself, it was not 900 eth but € 900,000 equivalent to 300 eth, the only article I found was not from that period but it is recent, https://firenze.repubblica.it/cronaca/2023/02/28/news/criptovalute_piattaforma_trt_soldi_bloccati_investitori_allarme_fascicolo_procura_firenze-389833306/ unfortunately it is paid and you cannot read everything in full |
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First, I apologize @Coinfan and @Jollygood if a few times my responses to this thread have been a bit dubious. Unfortunately, despite being one of the oldest exchanges, TRT also proved to be unreliable. I think Italian law is the first to blame in this sad affair becasue it was not able to protect the customers who had relied on TRT: in fact, it was enough to look at the latest financial statements to understand that something was wrong ( here is my analysis in the Italian discussion https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5440181.msg61974099#msg61974099 ) . The seriousness lies in the fact is that Italian law has only ever been concerned about AML & KYC has never cared to check TRT's financial soundness. For the Italian goverment in short you can be swindled by a bank or an exhange that guards your assets, the important thing is that you are not a tax evader or a criminal. I am sorry because what happened will further contribute to increasing the FUD about cryptocurrencies in my country. in 2019 they had a hack of over 900 eth, subsequently declared and then budgeted and capped the loss with own funds (according to TRT)! that something was wrong could already be guessed but no one has ever investigated the accounts of TRT, think that the auditing firm which had the obligation to validate the financial statements after the appropriate checks did not even notice the loss of 15-20 million ! as you say, and I fully agree with the Italian laws often leave something to be desired! rightly so if you make a capital gain of over €2000 you have to declare it, please, but if you lose 15-20 million you turn a blind eye |
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guardatevi BENE da chi invece fa marketing e pubblicita..
ehmm ti faccio notare che qui quasi tutti (compreso tu) avete la pubblicita' in firma...  Si ma non sta pubblicizzando Bitcoin ma una piattaforma di gambling il che è diverso! Non è Bitcoin che paga lui ma la piattaforma che lo paga in btc per pubblicità Stesso discorso vale anche per me |
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I agree with you, also in my opinion Manchester United will win this match in the end, on paper they have a better team than Sevilla, after Cristiano Ronaldo left Manchester United has totally transformed, on the other hand there is the most titled team of the Europa League but unlike the other editions I see it as less compact as a team! we will certainly see a great match
The title king of europa league that owned by sevilla means nothing against MU. I don't care so much about that but the thing that is always become my main concern is about how good the performance from the club in the domestic league and europa league itself. As you can see that if MU was able beating betis easily. We did know if betis far better than sevilla this season. Mu will be going all in as ten hag was aiming europa league trophy as one of main target for this season. It will give MU insant spot to the UCL as well. It seems like that juventus vs MU will become the final match. I hope this will happen. That will be very interesting to see serie a team to face EPL club. There is no doubt that Manchester United are the favorites in that game. Currently the Red Devils are very strong they have good game vision in every game. Sevilla have a glorious history in the Europa League but this season they look very weak despite qualifying for the quarter-finals as well. But even so, Ten Hag must be wary of the Spanish representative, it could be that they will play out of control with multiple enthusiasm and motivation that could endanger United. Is the achievement of the two teams in each League a benchmark for comparison? This season Sevilla has not earned a proper place in the League, it will have the opportunity to make them priority the Europa League because hope in La Liga seems to have ended. That will be the motivation Sevilla should be I just want to say both teams are equally strong at the moment, that's why they qualify for the Europa League quarter-finals Sevilla is an experienced team on the Europa League platform. And because of this, the team was able to qualify for the quarter-finals. I watched Sevilla's performance against Fenerbahçe. Their performance at Fenerbahçe was better than Sevilla, but they still couldn't win. Because Sevilla was cunning. Sevilla defeated Fenerbahçe with an excellent match strategy. Sevilla will also be tactical against Manchester United. Although Sevilla's overall performance is weaker than Manchester United's, their match strategy is better than Manchester United's. the strategy that Sevilla used against fenerbace in Italy is called catenaccio, a defensive strategy used very often in Italy and above all in the early 2000s, but it is not always a winning strategy! manchester united are much more technical than fenerbace and therefore they will have to defend really well with that technique if they want to go through! but for me in the double clash Manchester united will win |
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I do not have Telegram but thank you for adding a lot of information within your post. If you are part of the group it is probably because you are a victim. If so, I am sorry about that as I am sorry for all victims. Are you at Liberty to say how much money you have (approximately) lost? If the translation states there is a shortfall of €15-€20 million then that will be the end of the exchange as they will not recover losses. Also, any idea of clients swapping their losses for shares in a new version of the Rock Trading seems preposterous. unfortunately I don't have a link to the official meeting minutes, if it goes well I can send you the link of the legal protection telegram group where the lawyers of scammed users were present https://t.me/therocktradinghelp I got the information from there, since I am part of the group I am a user of The rock trading but fortunately after the FTX affair I had removed all my funds from TRT, there weren't many honestly but I wanted to keep everything safe. it was declared by the assembly that there is a gap between 15-20 million but the exact amount is not known, on April 4 perhaps we will know better. it will surely be declared bankrupt! difficult to say if the victims will be able to get some reimbursement, if OP wants he could join the group because it is a collective initiative, obviously he must evaluate |
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I agree with you, also in my opinion Manchester United will win this match in the end, on paper they have a better team than Sevilla, after Cristiano Ronaldo left Manchester United has totally transformed, on the other hand there is the most titled team of the Europa League but unlike the other editions I see it as less compact as a team! we will certainly see a great match
The title king of europa league that owned by sevilla means nothing against MU. I don't care so much about that but the thing that is always become my main concern is about how good the performance from the club in the domestic league and europa league itself. As you can see that if MU was able beating betis easily. We did know if betis far better than sevilla this season. Mu will be going all in as ten hag was aiming europa league trophy as one of main target for this season. It will give MU insant spot to the UCL as well. It seems like that juventus vs MU will become the final match. I hope this will happen. That will be very interesting to see serie a team to face EPL club. There is no doubt that Manchester United are the favorites in that game. Currently the Red Devils are very strong they have good game vision in every game. Sevilla have a glorious history in the Europa League but this season they look very weak despite qualifying for the quarter-finals as well. But even so, Ten Hag must be wary of the Spanish representative, it could be that they will play out of control with multiple enthusiasm and motivation that could endanger United. Is the achievement of the two teams in each League a benchmark for comparison? This season Sevilla has not earned a proper place in the League, it will have the opportunity to make them priority the Europa League because hope in La Liga seems to have ended. That will be the motivation Sevilla should be I just want to say both teams are equally strong at the moment, that's why they qualify for the Europa League quarter-finals obviously, I took into consideration the results and positions in their respective leagues, Manchester United third in the Premier League and will have to fight to the end to secure a place in the Champions League next year, Sevilla 14th in La Liga and only 2 points from the relegation zone will have to fight to the end not to recede! of course! moreover, he has a really low share of goals scored this year. for me on paper Manchester will win |
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Voglio spezzare una lancia a favore di chi non vuole imparare, la colpa non è del tutto loro! Gli influencers che vengono pagati per fare pubblicità alle piattaforme ma spesso si dimenticano di dare l'informazione più sicura, quella famosa "not your keys not your coins", almeno l'80% dei nuovi "investitori" di crypto non ha nemmeno cercato su Google cosa sia bitcoin o i suoi derivati! Si buttano a capofitto senza ragionare. molti equiparano gli Exchange alle banche pensando che tutto è sicuro al 100%
Poi però succedono questi scam e tutti a lamentarsi ovviamente!
Non c'è citazione più azzeccata quella che ho letto se non erro su questo forum
"Gli scammers sono nati per separare i soldi dagli stolti"
Guarda, io non credo che ci siano persone che credano agli inflencer girano in ferrari e che promettono mega guadagni coi bitcoin . Detto questo, il caso TRT in generale mette a nudo una situazione che per certi versi può coinvolgere tutti, anche i più attenti se sfortunati e mi spiego meglio: io, come Babo ecome penso la maggioranza di noi qui sopra, non lascio mai fondi online , però capita alcune volte che facendo operazioni di trading rimanga impigliato in posizione anche per uno-due giorni e se capita qualche guaio in questo lasso di tempo ovviamente anche io resto fregato. Purtroppo a quest'ultimo problema non c'è soluzione, perchè tutti gli exchange, e ripeto tutti, per un motivo o per un'altro possono chiudere da un momento all'altro e lasciarti con il cerino in mano. Basta farsi qualche giro nei vari gruppi o pseudo gruppi crypto, ma non i più blasonati tipo ICC oppure cryptobar ma quelli più piccoli e sconosciuti, come quello smascherato dalle iene time&gold https://it.cryptonews.com/exclusives/ivan-szydlik-e-la-crypto-timegold-smascherati-dalle-iene.htmIn tanti ci sono cascati purtroppo Per quanto riguarda la questione che hai evidenziato hai totalmente ragione ma sono circostanze che nessuno può preventivare, ed è totalmente diverso da chi invece usa un cex come wallet, una è sfiga la seconda è essere incoscienti di ciò che si sta facendo |
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io l'ho usato, sono stato uno dei primi (avevo un ref code di 2 cifre) a registrarmi e usarlo
mi piaceva perche aveva prezzi bassi e io dato che gli avevo fatto delle robe avevo uno sconticino sulle fee
ma i miei soldi li dentro duravano tipo 10 ore, prendevo e uscivo
ora sono orfano
E come vuoi usarlo un exchange? Not your keys, not your coins. È la lezione,che prima o poi, tutti devono imparare. Voglio spezzare una lancia a favore di chi non vuole imparare, la colpa non è del tutto loro! Gli influencers che vengono pagati per fare pubblicità alle piattaforme ma spesso si dimenticano di dare l'informazione più sicura, quella famosa "not your keys not your coins", almeno l'80% dei nuovi "investitori" di crypto non ha nemmeno cercato su Google cosa sia bitcoin o i suoi derivati! Si buttano a capofitto senza ragionare. molti equiparano gli Exchange alle banche pensando che tutto è sicuro al 100% Poi però succedono questi scam e tutti a lamentarsi ovviamente! Non c'è citazione più azzeccata quella che ho letto se non erro su questo forum "Gli scammers sono nati per separare i soldi dagli stolti" |
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but does anybody know if any discussions took place to consider banning mixer signatures from the forum?
No, not really. Mixers are in a grey area that is likely to get darker and darker. If the US government decides to ban mixers, the debate will be very short and you will have to learn how to post in the Gambling section This is just a protective measure for Theymos, for Bitcointalk and (by consequence) for the Staff. For regular users there is (so far) very little risk, but if you have any doubt, go see a lawyer. Don't overthink my words, I don't see the future, I don't have any secret information and I don't know anything about laws. I think there is no measure of protection for anyone, protect who and for what? as has been said, here the community performed only the task of advertising. I think it's more an ethical issue and shared by all the staff, as if to say "we don't want bitcoins deriving from illicit activities" |
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I agree with you, also in my opinion Manchester United will win this match in the end, on paper they have a better team than Sevilla, after Cristiano Ronaldo left Manchester United has totally transformed, on the other hand there is the most titled team of the Europa League but unlike the other editions I see it as less compact as a team! we will certainly see a great match
The title king of europa league that owned by sevilla means nothing against MU. I don't care so much about that but the thing that is always become my main concern is about how good the performance from the club in the domestic league and europa league itself. As you can see that if MU was able beating betis easily. We did know if betis far better than sevilla this season. Mu will be going all in as ten hag was aiming europa league trophy as one of main target for this season. It will give MU insant spot to the UCL as well. It seems like that juventus vs MU will become the final match. I hope this will happen. That will be very interesting to see serie a team to face EPL club. Manchester united will certainly do everything to win against sevilla, for me manchester united will win. as for the final, I regret to inform you that juventus vs manchester united will never be able to see it! both teams are on the same side of the scoreboard, so they can only play in the semifinals. it is very probable that an Italian will arrive in the final, because Roma do not have extremely strong teams in front of their path. who knows maybe the final will be Manchester united vs Roma |
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A me ora come ora fa più riflettere il fatto che, a grandi linee, tra soli cinque anni ce ne sarà un altro e che quindi da un blocco uscirà solo UN bitcoin e mezzo.
E se ci pensi ancora di più , fra nove anni ce ne sarà un altro e il block reward si dimezza ancora passando da 1,5625 a 0,7812 btc. Il principio di scarsità inizia a farsi sentire sempre di più! Io sono più curioso di vedere come si comporterà la community intera, miner, investitori,trader, hodler ecc ecc. |
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Indeed, basically getting odds at these numbers sometimes invites doubts to bet on Lazio. But if you see Lazio's enthusiasm in their last few matches in Serie A they have proven that they can achieve quite good results, it's no doubt that later in this match they have more enthusiasm so they can secure a place for the champions league zone next season and won't let other competing teams in standings to be able to shift its position In probability I think Lazio is still ahead of Monza. Of course you can still consider a draw for this match because Monza is playing at home, but Lazio's performance seems more promising to win. My focus in Serie A is Napoli vs Milan which will be held at the Diego Armando Maradona Stadium. It was the first Champions League pre-leg match between the two teams, of course it attracted a lot of attention. I think Napoli are the favorites to win but Milan will have to try something to keep their chances of staying in the top 4. Lazio are currently in second place if I'm not mistaken, there must be a reason. Although it is a team that has an uneven performance, it is very dangerous and certainly, in my opinion, Monza is not up to it. Surely the victory will go to Lazio. Although since he plays inconsistently, he could also lose. yes Lazio has always had fluctuating performance, but they play away from home and even if Monza is not a top team they have shown that they know how to stop much better equipped teams! managed to draw against Inter Milan and win twice against Juventus. moreover, Monza has a very specific goal of exceeding 40 points in the standings, statistically in Serie A it has never happened that a team with 40 or more points has been relegated to Serie B, Monza currently has 34 points so a goal its reach |
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un annetto
diciamo che scopriremo fra 1 anno cosa sara successo nel frattempo
nel frattempo basta impilare satoshi uno per uno per essere pronti
anche se non potrebbe succedere niente, quello pure eh .. niente e' scontato
Statisticamente dopo l'halving si sempre assistito a un pump nel breve e medio periodo ma questa purtroppo non è una regola fissa! Tutti me compreso ci aspettiamo tanti bei candelotti verdi ma è anche possibile che non succeda nulla o addirittura l'inverso. Comunque concordo con te impilate impilate e impilate! E se non avete più spazio potete darli a me che lo spazio lo trovo 😁😁 |
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Ragazzi avevo dimenticato dell'esistenza di questo thread!!  lo riesumo tanto per farvi ricordare quanto manca al prossimo halving   |
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