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1301  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin will be vulnerable to Quantum Computers in about 2 years on: January 16, 2023, 04:05:22 AM
@cafter With respect, it is incorrect that it will take "5 - 10 years" to develop a 4000+ qubit machine. IBM will have one in 2025 (two years from now), making P2PK public addreses (which are not hashed) vulnerable as I said above. So not all of bitcoin will be vulnerable, true, but plenty of it will be, especially because since Taproot, the real unhashed public keys are left exposed after making a transaction so it is correct that the stop gap solution if one is using bitcoin is not to reuse public address, but this does not address the economic / market issue of loss of confidence that would occur if even one P2PK address were compromised. So this is why it is negligence of the highest order for the BTC devs to be continually dismissing this real problem as "FUD" when it would be an easy matter (a soft fork) to replace ECC with something like a hash-based algorithm which is more secure. Just absolute irresponsibility on the part of the bitcoin leadership.

Source that IBM will have 4,158 qubit machine in 2025 (and they have since 2017 always hit their quantum computing roadmaps, so it needs to be taken with the upmost gravity): https://spectrum.ieee.org/ibm-condor

https://ibb.co/pyJLmX0

Ok, so ibm

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IBM’S CONDOR, THE world’s first universal quantum computer with more than 1,000 qubits, is set to debut in 2023.
The year is also expected to see IBM launch Heron, the first of a new flock of modular quantum processors that the company says
"may" help it produce quantum computers with more than 4,000 qubits by 2025.
sorry , i not included it i researched about other companies like google , intel etc.
But there is "may" also , so let's see what happen's
1302  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin will be vulnerable to Quantum Computers in about 2 years on: January 15, 2023, 05:41:36 PM
There is still a significant amount of work to be done with qauntum computing before it can be considered to be a credible threat to blockchain technology.
it will take upto 5 to 10  years to develop 4000+ qubits
in that much time
We may will find a quantum proof way of using bitcoin or developing QT proof technology

While some blockchains were designed to be quantum resistant and will survive the rise of quantum computing in their current form , like iota etc.

quantum computer would need thousands or even millions of qubits to break modern cryptography, but currently, they have less than 100 qubits.

blockchains may can be upgraded as long as all the miners or validators who are running the network agree to implement the upgrade . While blockchain upgrades are extremely rare due to disagreements from independent miners or validators, quantum resistance will be a matter of life or death for blockchain technology.
There is no rational excuse for any miner or validator to refuse a quantum resistance upgrade when the threat of a quantum attack becomes possible.

I suggest to read this :
https://eprint.iacr.org/2021/967.pdf
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