yep, exactly. online gambling addiction requires several stages which may be a little difficult to carry out and what is suggested here does not always provide success because gambling addicts still need help from professionals to provide in-depth assistance, provide medication or any assistance to help gambling addicts truly recover from their addiction and eliminate the desire to gamble. but the efforts carried out by professionals require help from the family to be able to provide strong encouragement for addicts to recover from their addiction and a more appropriate way to carry out rehabilitation in the long term without having access to online sites or keeping away from cell phones and the like after that provide activities such as work that can make money and that's when his mind becomes diverted to positive things.

however, all of this requires a great will from an addict who wants to recover from his addiction and the greater the desire, the greater the chance of being able to stop addiction.

even though gambling is just for fun, believe me, we need focus to be able to enjoy each of our betting sessions, except betting on slot games, just pressing the spin button without needing mental focus.

but if we talk about the risks of gambling at work, there are a lot of risks and one of the things you said is part of the risk because we work in a company together with other employees and we are in a place filled with different people, sometimes lots of people. who are sympathetic to us but sometimes there are also people who dont like us and this is probably what you mean when you gamble at work and are found out by other employees who dont like us, they will definitely be reported to the company owner and will definitely be fired.
If something like this happens, the regret will definitely be very deep, so always think maturely, gamble in the right place, not gamble in the open.

I'm not sure if the age limit can control gamblers from behaving cruelly, even this often happens at the age of 18+
all of this is actually not about age but the mature mindset of each gambler because even though gambling limits the age of a gambler if the customer is old, they cannot have mature thoughts so their emotions affect them and can be cruel to their family and on the one hand this also depends on whether the gambler is addicted or not.
because there are so many young gamblers out there, even underage gamblers, who gamble responsibly without being addicted and also never behave badly towards other people.

age is just a matter of numbers but it all still depends on the mindset of each gambler, even though it is limited, it will not be able to stop crazy acts of doing evil to other people. unless they can have good self control, they will definitely not be addicted and will also not make efforts beyond their limits.

maybe they are former gambling employees or maybe they are hackers but not sure if they really exist and I never knew them.

this story made me remember an experience from another person, a sports bettor trying to bet on soccer betting with the desire to win consistently and betting at small odds like @1.1 gradually and yes indeed he won consistently but in fact after a few days then his account was banned because it was deemed to have violated the rules.

It seems like the case is the same as what you said, that gambling will never like its customers who always win easily and I understand this case because gambling was developed to generate income for gambling owners, not to distribute money to their customers.
but I believe that there are gamblers out there who can make consistent profits from sports betting, it's just that they never teach or share how to get consistent wins but stay safe from banned.

It's a very bad mistake if a gambler before carrying out gambling activities drinks large amounts of alcohol which makes him lose himself, whereas if the gambler plays slot games, I'm not sure he can last longer or even just a few spins, he loses without being able to control his mind because of the influence of alcohol. of course, you will continue to increase the number of bets or maybe bet all in in one spin or buy spin bonus.

I very rarely see gamblers who are affected by alcohol playing in slot games but usually they play in card games but if it is done in slot games I can't imagine what if he will run out of his savings in just a few hours because as you said if If you can't control your thoughts, you will definitely make another deposit while playing this slot game without being influenced alcohol. a gambler can lose control, even if he is influenced by alcohol, his savings balance will definitely be destroyed.

from this discussion the conclusion is that to gamble responsibly you must have a strong desire, discipline, commitment and consistency, isn't that right?
sometimes we ourselves find it too complicated to interpret the word gambling responsibly and sometimes we also have difficulty doing this, even though everything is very easy, it's just that sometimes we think too much about very complicated things.

like whatever we talk about here, it's all about tips for gambling responsibly and just imagine we start from the simplest way of planning a budget and stop after losing or after winning and this is very easy for us to do but what's difficult is only our own minds think gambling responsibly is a very difficult endeavor to undertake.

from your opinion I think about how important it is to manage finances in a gambling budget.
a gambler who cannot manage his budget well, whether he is an experienced gambler or a novice gambler, will definitely have big problems as you mentioned. however, if a gambler has good management, they can certainly avoid any risks that will occur, such as addiction, which will never control him as long as he can manage his budget well.

managing a budget for gambling or managing finances well is one of gambling carefully or more precisely, valuing every money you have. In this way, every gambler will not be able to bet recklessly because they really value their money and enjoy each betting session more than betting recklessly such as increasing the bet amount or going all in at the end of the betting session.

gambling responsibly may also be one way to gamble carefully, but all of this requires a very high level of commitment and you have to learn to control yourself slowly to be able to become a healthy gambler and bet comfortably.

from some of our conversations, is this a sign or is this gambler who often blames others a gambling addict? what do you think ?

because I think gamblers who are always angry when they lose and blame the people around them always ignore advice from other people and keep gambling after what they want as I said before, whereas the first signs of gambling addiction are they always ignore advice or have very poor self control and emotional which is uncontrollable and I had time to wonder whether a gambler who regrets and blames others is an early sign of addiction or whether he has already become addicted.

just try to imagine if they were an ordinary gambler without addiction, of course every loss was just normal for him and he never made very silly mistakes like blaming other people as described by the OP, but if the behavior is rude after this losing session, there is definitely something wrong with them his mindset and is definitely affected by things like addiction.

the bigger the bankroll, the bigger the chance of winning, and also the bigger the risk and also the bigger the loss. that's a slot game.

I never thought that streamers who use big bankrolls always win big, it's just that the value we have with that of streamers is different, for example, if we have a budget of $100, getting a win of $80 for us is already very big.
whereas a streamer who has a budget of $10k and gets a win of $1000 for him is just a small amount but for us it is a big amount so we always think that a big bankroll gives a bigger chance of winning. am I right ?

maybe we need to get to know the streamer and ask him directly whether the accusations are true or false.

I often hear accusations like that and sometimes I also think when I see a streamer playing a slot game wearing a mask and seeing the situation in the room it looks like just an ordinary gambler but why can they get such a large budget?
well, we all don't know how the streamers behind the scenes are like and whether they have other jobs that have big salaries but I often see streamers like this in local media which I often see now and I also sometimes think maybe what you said true that using counterfeit money.

Isn't this just about economics?
I mean, rich people dont have any shortcomings because their economic life is guaranteed, even if they spend $500 or $1000 every day to gamble and lose, they won't care because their money will never run out and they will never worry about their finances.

meanwhile, for lower middle class gamblers, from a financial perspective, it is very difficult to meet their economic needs, even if they want to buy luxury goods, they are not able to afford them, so they think that by gambling they can double their money or win large amounts.

it's all just about the mindset of each gambler. If a lower middle class gambler really had long term thinking, he certainly wouldn't have thoughts like that.
but things like this often happen and it is very difficult to give advice. If a poor gambler is very sure about placing their hopes in gambling, it will be very difficult to give them the best way.

the question that needs to be considered isn't all types of online and offline gambling the same as having big risks?

all types of offline or online gambling both have big risks, but your question has a very simple answer. It all depends on how committed they are to managing their finances so as not to spend too much money on gambling.
just imagine a gambler Y who doesn't have good self control and commitment in terms of managing his finances, he goes to an offline casino, of course he will continue gambling without thinking about how much money he has because he is too busy gambling, forgetting everything and after that he will also go to the casino online to gamble and if he feels comfortable having too much fun, he will definitely lose a lot of money because he doesn't have good self control.

and compare it with X gamblers who have self control and a strong commitment in terms of respecting their money or in terms of managing their finances, of course when they go to gamble at online or offline casinos they always use the budget that has been planned and if they lose they will not continue gambling.

do the conclusion is very clear that the important role in the answer you are looking for only depends on how much self control each gambler has.

losses like this are very common and often happen when you bet on a large sports bet and you should have chosen the right team but a surprise comes and destroys your bet into a loss. maybe what you mean is the single bet in sports betting which often happens and there is no need to regret or be angry because this really often happens, in fact every bettor experiences the same thing, only betting large amounts gives a feeling of regret when the team chosen should have been able to winning but it is very sad when the game changes or the opposing team makes a comeback.

maybe if this happened on a single bet it wouldn't be so painful but imagine if this happened using a parlay bet with several teams that have been selected with big odds and betting a large amount but when there is still 1 match remaining the bookmaker gives you the option to cash out or continue your bet while a big win is guaranteed and the bettor can just press the cashout button and get a big win, but when he chooses to continue the match, everything becomes very bad, the last match is lost and he loses all the big wins that he almost got.

well, actually for me this is just regret or depression caused by my own greed to get a big win.

as far as my experience goes, I have never thought about why rich people win more easily or poor people often lose. in fact, a lot of people who have lower class incomes have a winning streak and also many rich people experience losses because I think it's just about how much luck we have, not how much money we have, am I right?

and on the one hand, my mindset always thought that casinos or gambling were just a business to provide entertainment to customers and provide income to gambling owners. so whether the customer is rich or poor is not important and there is no special treatment on either side so the result is the same, even if you are destined to lose, you still lose, the most important thing is that the gambling owner gets income from his customers.
most important thing is whether rich gamblers or poor gamblers will not affect the chances of winning and the results will remain the same.

around the location where I live, there are also a lot of young people, even underage people, who gamble on slot games and as you said, they dont have jobs but can still gamble. one time I was really curious and I tried to approach some of the young people trying to give an approach. after they opened their conversation, I entered into the conversation and I asked them where they could gamble when they didn't work?
they answered that in fact they worked odd jobs but I was the only one who never knew if they worked odd jobs but several others answered that they got money from begging on the side of the road and the underage gambled using the money given to them by their parents.
but I see them almost every day in the same place gambling without winning and even occasionally collecting money from several people in that place just for the sake of gambling.

but for some reason, they still gamble even though they often lose, but if I look at their behavior and conversations, I'm sure they never stop gambling because they occasionally get big wins which have an influence on their minds so they keep gambling even though they lose, and on the one hand, gamblers who still easy, usually still very unstable, doesn't have mature thoughts without being able to control himself.

then what about poker, blackjack and baccarat games? do you still say that this type of game is just a game of luck?

I actually said this before in this thread but it seems you haven't seen the reply I wrote and I repeat that not all types of games depend on luck but some types of games depend on skill such as poker. in this game your skills will be really needed because without skills you will only swallow a bitter pill every round.

so if you say funding gamblers is too risky and you think it always fails I dont agree. because there are lots of professional poker gamblers out there who have very high mathematical intelligence and huge experience in the game of poker so they are able to get consistent wins from several rounds and we can fund our professional poker gamblers by coming to their house and saying that we will fund their gambling here. poker game and if we win we will share the profits.
isn't this fair?

not everything depends on luck and if you know there are lots of gamblers out there who have become rich because they have skills in the game of poker and there is no harm in funding the right gamblers.

there are lots of mistakes gamblers make that make them addicted and you have explained one of the reasons and it makes sense, but another thing apart from placing hope in gambling is the mindset about the big win they get can trigger a gambler to become curious and want to experience the same sensation. after getting a big win and gamblers will ignore managing money well because they only think they want to get the same big win as before so they become addicted after money management fails.

advice is always given here that dont think too much about something big from gambling because winning is just luck that doesn't know when it will come and when it will go so far that we can't catch up. however, there are still many gamblers who ignore these small things which can have a big influence on their gambling, and addiction has even increased in recent years because they fail to manage their finances, ignoring any advice from other people.
so from this story we should be able to conclude that any advice from other people is very important to listen to and always dont ignore discipline in managing finances so as not to lose control.

Experiencing losing money in gambling will make people emotional and want to recover their losses by continuing to gamble. Unfortunately, they don't think that this method can give them the opportunity to recover their losses because it will only increase the number of losses even more. Many gamblers have become emotional and depressed because they have lost so much that they have even gone bankrupt, so they can't do anything anymore.
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that's the bad thing about gamblers who can't understand how gambling works and how to use gambling appropriately without overdoing it which causes themselves to become uncontrollably emotional and only blame other people when they lose while other people have given the best advice and some friends usually also give advice for dont really chase losses in gambling but they just ignore any advice from other people without realizing that they themselves are bad gamblers who dont have good control but only think selfishly.

sometimes I just think what they think in their brains who gamble recklessly are given advice ignored but when they lose they blame whoever is nearby and this is a very stupid thing that irresponsible gamblers do and I also sometimes find people like this blaming his friend when he lost but I said to myself that he was a very stupid gambler who gambled with his own choice but involved other people in his loss.

according to my experience, what you say is true, the longer you persist, the worse you will lose, even if you come to play slots every day, the results will definitely be worse.
previously, I often played slots and had the experience of trying to survive for more than 2 hours after getting a big win and the result was that I still lost, even though my budget was almost 0.

but in the previous few weeks I felt something strange at that time, for example I played slots with a budget of $100 and lost $50 after that I stopped and continued the next day but got a win of more than $50 and stopped playing the next day I played slots again and all my budget lost was 0 but very strangely after I came back the next day I got a win of more than $100.
I thought this was luck or this was a slot game but it was very strange that every day the results were always different.

and unfortunately after that I always lost for several months and finally stopped playing slots because in one month of consecutive defeats I rarely got maxwin and chose to bet on sports betting.

well, this is what most gamblers out there are afraid of when betting at the poker table but all the gamblers dont know that one of the gamblers is the casino owner and this makes a bad thought if other gamblers find out while the gambling owner always wins even though not cheating, but still the minds of gamblers will think that the casino owner is cheating.

therefore, it is very rare for me to see gambling owners gambling in their own casinos because on the one hand, casino owners maintain the reputation of their casinos and avoid the danger of crimes that could threaten them because gambling owners have a lot of money. on the one hand, sometimes gambling addicts can go crazy and commit crimes against casino owners.
so it would actually be better if the casino owner did not participate in betting in his own casino rather than his reputation being damaged and becoming a very bad conflict in the long run.

from this incident we learned a very valuable lesson that whatever other people tell us about big wins or consistent wins, we should not believe too much in stories like that. In fact, I am skeptical of all stories on social media and dont believe in the existence of predictors. in the end it's just cheating. all this because I once made the mistake of believing in predictors who paid a certain amount of money but the results were very bad and from that experience I became skeptical of the news of consistent big wins from someone who spread it on social media.

sometimes we as gamblers are too easily fooled, just by consistently showing big wins we are tempted to follow his method. meanwhile, if we think logically, if someone is a predictor, why would they open a service like that? wouldn't it be better for him to borrow a large amount of money from the bank and use it to bet to get very big results if it is true that he has a strategy that can always produce wins.

from these facts we can think logically that almost the majority of cases like that will end in scam.