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1301  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform ?|? ICO CLOSED on: October 09, 2016, 08:50:48 PM
About 40% of my investment was made with Ether. 

The delay in issuance is now causing my projected ICN share to drop quite a bit. 

The "dollar value" of investments should be calculated as of the close of the ICO, or as of the promised issuance date.  There's no reason why my ICN share should continue to fluctuate, now 10 days after ICO close, based on market price of Ether.

I assumed, at worst, 10 days of risk on Ether price for ICO.  I did not agree to some interminable amount of risk.

Posted From bitcointalk.org Android App

Final calculations of all currencies (fiat and crypto) were posted a month ago:
https://medium.com/iconominet/token-share-calculation-affd1c96c482#.wa2gylyo5
1302  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / What about reddit? on: October 09, 2016, 08:40:05 PM
Hi everybody

how about we move the discussion to reddit channel?
https://www.reddit.com/r/iconomi
1303  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform ❘|❘ ICO CLOSED on: October 09, 2016, 08:27:04 PM
I want to keep icn on platform but want to add more icn when it hits the exchanges. Can I send from an exchange back to icn platform?

yepp, you will be able to do that. You will have the public (receive) address available on the platform
1304  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform ❘|❘ ICO CLOSED on: October 09, 2016, 08:18:12 PM
I see they are offering black debit card on their IG's, where I can get one?

https://ico.iconomi.net/faq

1305  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform ❘|❘ ICO CLOSED on: October 09, 2016, 08:12:46 PM
I am totally kicking myself right now for not splitting my ICO donations up into multiple accounts.  Come Tuesday, this had all better work.
why would you want to do that?
1306  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform ❘|❘ ICO CLOSED on: October 09, 2016, 08:06:08 PM
Sladana Cevriz, [09.10.16 20:18]
[In reply to Elgar Mamedov]
We checked your TW: you retweeted tweet from May, server down. You are banned from TW bounty because of that. That is it. And I don't plan to have any discussion with you about that one.
Ahaha ICONOMI SCAM Bounty Program Scam Alert
This Message from Telegram
Sladana Cevriz -Support Iconomi

Where it has been told that it was impossible to do retweet during Baunti of the program where it has been stated in Rules?

The big Russian whale Will sell 480 btc at the coin entry into the Exchanges substitute Buckets

Iconomi Team - has understood that too much money will leave on Bounty the program and has thought up has imparted on the run After the Termination Bounty of the program.

They have ordered to themselves Anti advertizing I will organize it

+
support you
Quote
Iconomi Team - has understood that too much money will leave on Bounty the program and has thought up has imparted on the run After the Termination Bounty of the program.

You realize ALL bounties are 2% of total token distribution? So even if all 2% will sell their tokens, it is still just 2%, as 2 out of 100 (not that much)
1307  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform ❘|❘ ICO CLOSED on: October 09, 2016, 08:01:06 PM
If I understood correctly , we should be able to withdraw our ICNs into our ethereum addresses in couple of days (11th September) ? So , when we will start to receive our weekly dividends ? does it start immediately after receiving the funds ?
If we choose to keep our ICNs in our ICO.ICONOMI.NET accounts , where the ETH from dividends will be stored exactly ?
would not expect those questions from a hero member, especially if you invested from your own money..

Weekly dividends will be sent once at least one fund will be active - expected to happen this year already (ICNX and performance fund)

If you keep the ICN tokens on the platform, Iconomi will create and manage the ethereum address for you and will send dividends to that address
1308  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform ❘|❘ ICO CLOSED on: October 09, 2016, 06:24:25 PM
I already download the etherum wallet.
What to choose?
1 USE THE TEST NETWORK
2. USE THE MAIN NETWORK
Thank you


I'd go for option 3: make a strong and unique password for Iconomi platform, enable 2FA and leave your tokens there
You may screw something and loose your ICN tokens forever


...2FA sms verification...perfect.

How about the phone lost? I prefer write down the google auth key, if my phone is lost, at least i have my new phone to enter ga code
I personally prefer google auth as well.
1309  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform ❘|❘ ICO CLOSED on: October 09, 2016, 06:23:07 PM
Where Start Trading with Iconomy ....  Huh

It should start tomorrow on MT Gox
1310  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform ❘|❘ ICO CLOSED on: October 09, 2016, 06:18:06 PM
I already download the etherum wallet.
What to choose?
1 USE THE TEST NETWORK
2. USE THE MAIN NETWORK
Thank you


I'd go for option 3: make a strong and unique password for Iconomi platform, enable 2FA and leave your tokens there
You may screw something and loose your ICN tokens forever
1311  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform ❘|❘ ICO CLOSED on: October 09, 2016, 10:12:36 AM

ICONOMI team,
please don't distribute bounties within 2 weeks. Real supporters can wait.
Regards


Online poll: Should Iconomi delay bounties for 2 weeks?
Vote here: https://pollev.com/SASSYTOWEL442
live results: https://www.polleverywhere.com/multiple_choice_polls/U0v4qdE1Im1FjaP?preview=true



The link to VOTE doesn't work... I AGREE! BOUNTIES SHOULD BE DELAYD. REAL SUPPORTERS WILL WAIT!

And why would ICONOMI team follow this suggestion? They'd all be proving they are not really reasonable in the end if they indeed delay bounties for 2 weeks. bear in mind that ICONOMI doesn't have success yet for all we know they could all mess things up. they've already miss managed distributing bounties and the coding of it.

WTF? All other project should look and follow how they deal with bounties. You are jack shit. They could just distribute it among all bounty cry babies and not take the effort to check thoroughly for abuse, bots, bullshit-empty posts, etc
You are welcome to move to other ICO project and compare the teams.
what a bullshitter
1312  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform ❘|❘ ICO CLOSED on: October 09, 2016, 09:21:33 AM
My tentative Iconomi portfolio plan:

ICN tokens:             50%
Performance Fund:   30%
Index Fund:             20%

and when other managed funds come aboard, I will adjust accordingly.
Or, dividends and profits may be the seed for other funds when they come aboard.

How much are those percentages in total?
hmm well i ended up with 103k ICN if that helps any.  Wink

I see. So over $10,300. That's quite a bit if this thing is successful.
I put in actually over 12k, some in every period / bonus period.
I wish now it was more, lol.
Seeing peeps get 9000 ICN for clicking a few things disturbs me tho honestly.

Mr. P - I wish you (and me Smiley and everybody else early retirement. By early I mean within the next 2-3 years for ppl invested 15-20 BTC in the ICO.
Unless Iconomi gets hacked, I don't see how this doesn't go up ~100x in 18-24 months. Add to that dividends, and some other investments in the funds.
When I think about the amount of money that will flow in from traditional fin institutes and non-crypto investors... yummy

One day we will look back at those posts and lough about all lambos posts. I personally will also remember the never ending when-bounties-when-exchange crying babies

1313  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform ❘|❘ ICO CLOSED on: October 09, 2016, 08:45:01 AM
Very good news!

myetherwallet has just implemented offline generation of token sending transactions, per the request of ICN investors.  It took them 1 week to implement this feature after Malreynolds messaged them about it.  

Huge props to myetherwallet for getting this feature ready in time for ICN launch

Guide for highly-secure, offline storage and transferring of ICN tokens & ETH dividends - no blockchain synchronization required

### Download these things to a flash drive:
- google chrome web browser

- geth
https://github.com/ethereum/go-ethereum/releases

- myetherwallet
https://github.com/kvhnuke/etherwallet

### Transfer flash drive to dedicated offline computer which never touches internet

### install google chrome on offline computer

### Run geth from command line, use this command to launch in javascript console mode
geth console

### (geth javascript console information can be found here)
https://github.com/ethereum/go-ethereum/wiki/JavaScript-Console#personalnewaccount

### create new wallet with this command
personal.newAccount()

### enter new password twice - do not forget this password, or your money is gone

### geth outputs address you just generated - copy/paste this address and save it in a .txt file to flash drive - also write it down just as a reference to be able to double-check the address in the .txt file

### to double-check the password is correct, use this command
personal.unlockAccount("address_just_generated_with_quotes_around_it")

### enter your password and hit enter - geth outputs 'true' if password was correct

### navigate to hidden .ethereum folder and create a backup of keyfile - do not lose this keyfile or your money is gone
usually this folder is in a hidden folder in your home directory (or %APPDATA% on windows)

### now you can send ICN and a little bit of ETH (maybe 0.5 ETH for transaction fees) to the cold storage ETH address you just generated

If you ever want to send ICN out of cold storage address in the future
### navigate to the folder where you saved the etherwallet-mercury.zip from myetherwallet

### unzip, go to "dist" folder, then drag/drop index.html file into google chrome in order to run myetherwallet on your offline computer

### follow the instructions under the "offline send" section in order to create an offline transaction
- select "custom token" and put the ICN contract address in "address" field.  (The ICN contract address is not yet public, we will know the contract address for sure at launch)
- for private key, select "Keystore File" and select the keyfile you made a backup of in earlier step

### save the signed transaction to a flash drive and transfer to an online computer for broadcasting to the network on myetherwallet.com

It is recommended to do a test run using a small amount of a currently available token like DGD or SNGLS before you withdraw all your ICN to your cold storage ETH address

Also recommended to send a donation to myetherwallet for getting this feature released in time for ICN launch

+1, and huge props to MalReynolds.

This helps all ethereum users not wanting or able to run the blockchain and don't want to sacrifice security for the ease of a webwallet, a huge step forward.


note:
* keystore/json file is separate from pvtkey.txt file and has a long filename beginning with "UTC"
I nominate you to make us a youtube video "how to". haha   Wink

Can this procedure be done with Ubuntu live CD (PC disconnected from internet), instead of a "virgin" OS?
1314  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform ❘|❘ ICO CLOSED on: October 09, 2016, 08:42:02 AM

ICONOMI team,
please don't distribute bounties within 2 weeks. Real supporters can wait.
Regards


Online poll: Should Iconomi delay bounties for 2 weeks?
Vote here: https://pollev.com/SASSYTOWEL442
live results: https://www.polleverywhere.com/multiple_choice_polls/U0v4qdE1Im1FjaP?preview=true



I say the sooner they get their bounties, the sooner they will dump them on the market and will SHUT UP about when bounties, where bounties, when exchange never ending posts
1315  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform ❘|❘ ICO CLOSED on: October 08, 2016, 06:40:10 PM
How many ETH I need to have in wallet to receive ICN  ?
You don't need to have any ether in order to receive ICN tokens. If you want to send them later on, you will need some. Depends on number of TXs, but I would say 0.1-0.2 ether should be enough for gas (TX fees)
1316  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform ❘|❘ ICO CLOSED on: October 08, 2016, 06:38:41 PM
is there any announcement about the exchange where ICN will be traded? i'm afraid i may have missed the information. also if ICN are withdrawn from web wallet, will they still be eligible for ETH dividends?

Wondering this as well
another one.. this time a "hero"

try Gox


few more days and we can move on from --when bounty? no bounty? why no bounty? what exchange? when exchange?-
1317  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform ❘|❘ ICO CLOSED on: October 08, 2016, 06:37:20 PM
What is the official ICO price/token. I can see that lisk and Ethereum is dropping against BTC
dude, it doesn't matter what lisk or btc or ether price is now
ICN shares were calculating based on the last 72 hours before ICO ended

Was mentioned in whitepaper, official announcements, official blogs, and here for like 100 times

But why harden on the brain when we can just use the fingers and ask the same questions again an again


OMFG Thank you.  At least these are the first non bounty posts in 35 fucking pages.

My eyes are bleeding.

yepp, I guess few more days and we can move on from --when bounty? no bounty? why no bounty? what exchange? when exchange?--
I miss the lambos posts
Wink
1318  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform ❘|❘ ICO CLOSED on: October 08, 2016, 06:16:22 PM
What is the official ICO price/token. I can see that lisk and Ethereum is dropping against BTC
dude, it doesn't matter what lisk or btc or ether price is now
ICN shares were calculating based on the last 72 hours before ICO ended

Was mentioned in whitepaper, official announcements, official blogs, and here for like 100 times

But why harden on the brain when we can just use the fingers and ask the same questions again an again
1319  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform ❘|❘ ICO CLOSED on: October 08, 2016, 04:48:11 PM
So ive got "ethereum wallet" can I use the "main account (etherbase)" account address as my withdrawal address..?

Sorry for the noobishness, never played with ether so its making me a bit paranoid...
You can, as long as you have very strong password for it. If you haven't played with ether, I'd suggest you one of those 2 options:
1. Keep your funds on the platform (make sure your password is minimum 12 random characters, and has nothing to do with your registered email address password)
or
2. Deposit some ether into the wallet first, then send them to other wallet (your exchange address perhaps). Repeat that few times until you are comfortable enough with your very strong and random password. Only after that update your ICN deposit address on the platform.
First thing you do after receiving your ICN tokens - you backup your wallet key (that is the keystore folder - you can access it from the wallet UI). If that file gets lost - you've loost your ICN tokens and any other ether you had there
And DON'T backup it on a cloud service
1320  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform ❘|❘ ICO CLOSED on: October 08, 2016, 04:38:55 PM
is there any announcement about the exchange where ICN will be traded? i'm afraid i may have missed the information. also if ICN are withdrawn from web wallet, will they still be eligible for ETH dividends?
was written here and in the official announcements few dozen times

for all eager bounty hunters - ICN on exchanges - will be announced by the exchange, and not by Iconomi team
Don't cry later on when price will hit >10x

You will be eligible for eth dividends as long as you have control over the address you provided at the platform - meaning as long as you have the private key. If you keep them on exchange - I think you still should be able to, but I wouldn't park ICN or any other crypto on an exchange
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