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13041  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin connecting PayPal? on: June 29, 2019, 07:07:39 PM
1. Paypal co-founder thinks Bitcoin's a scam.
2. Paypal has allowed its merchants to accept Bitcoin at least since last year if not earlier, so they're not totally against it. Why would they be? Tried to fight it before, but now it knows it can't be stopped.
3. They actually announced Bitcoin acceptance back in 2014, same as above point actually but it didn't work out.

Note: this is all with 3rd party payment processors of course.
13042  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: The 'No Action' Relief from SEC on: June 29, 2019, 04:29:28 PM
Wasn't this old news reported from December already?

It appears already a few planned offerings are looking for this new route now, if what I've been hearing in the news is anything to go by. I think the SEC has always been this understanding, just people weren't patient enough to hear their side properly (same as FATF). Slow they may be, but not stupid. Not hasty. Kind of the same impatience people were showing sometimes with Bitcoin haha!

Anyway, seems Bitmain itself thinks it's benefitting from this confirmation of relaxation for its resurrected IPO.
13043  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Copa América 2019 Discussion Thread & Prediction Pool (registration closed) on: June 29, 2019, 03:54:53 PM
Cool, I got one exact score, but then ended up on 3 points like many of you guys. Guess I should be glad I clambered up 2 spots. Still 6 points off the pace with only 5 games left. Need 2 more exact scores just to get even!

But how about that eh? Damn Chile still knows how to progress. Poor Higuita now has to keep his promise and cut off his beautiful mullet though.

You know what would be funny? Another Chile Argentina final hahaha.
13044  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2019-06-29] CNBC-shilled cryptocurrency exchange Bitsane pulls exit scam on: June 29, 2019, 12:36:20 PM
You know what else I know was super shilled at a time on CNBC? Bcash. To be fair, they probably didn't as a network realise it. Not sure anything these days on any network really represents anything. Just random personalities pieced together.

Will I be surprised if that one (Bcash) exit scams (and if anyone actually thinks it's so decentralized it's impossible to exit scam, then wow)? Nope =p

And yes of course, it's never in good taste to make light of other people's misery. But agree, gotta see the funny side sometimes.
13045  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Odds, units advantage | Sportsbook | +12192 units | 350 bets on: June 29, 2019, 10:18:06 AM
Good timing for Argentina to turn up, and the holders Chile also managed to scrape through on penalties, Alexis Sanchez might just be the only Man Utd player to end up with a medal before the end of next season if Chile goes all the way!

3 games from 3 tourneys today, Concacaf, Copa and Womens WC.

Game 1: Uruguay vs Peru. Uruguay WIN @1.77. BCR odds: 1.74
Game 2: Italy vs Netherlands. Netherlands WIN @1.94. BCR odds: 1.92
Game 3: Mexico vs Costa Rica. Mexico WIN @1.43. BCR odds: 1.44
100 units parlay at Betcoin @4.9103. BCR parlay: 4.8107

Odds advantage: 2.07%
Units advantage: 9.96

Running advantage after 5 bets: +115.14 (+9.96)
All-time cumulative: +12,307.46
Running units after 4 bets (0W|4L): -400 (-100 units)
13046  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2019-06-28]Edward Snowden Used Bitcoin to Pay for Servers Used in NSA Leak on: June 28, 2019, 02:10:53 PM
Why is this a big deal? He could have just used (and probably should have haha) disposable mobile credit or anonymous debit cards to pay for those servers. He could probably even have used cash to pay some guy in a cyber cafe to do it, even better but I guess nothing beats the comfort of doing it from your home.

But yeah, anyway, the fact that he had to say it instead of him being accused of it = Bitcoin use still isn't all that obvious on blockchain if you don't know what you're looking for.

13047  Economy / Collectibles / Re: Crypto Stamps- New Collectable Blockchain postage stamps on: June 28, 2019, 01:03:48 PM
Hey guys, a bit of a noob latecomer to this thread. I ordered this when it first came out, had no idea it was going to be this big. Didn't even know at the time that there were different colours in the digital version. Went right to the Austrian Post online shop, bought 5 (2 stamped) and then it was only later on I realised they were in different colours. By then, too late, sold out =)



Anyway, received them today. No notification of delivery or anything but they arrived in very good condition. 1 green only, it's not too bad. Nice work Kryptowerk and thanks for the informative thread krogoth, just wish I'd found it BEFORE I bought them;)


13048  Economy / Collectibles / Re: CRYPTO STAMP (complete set and random lots) on: June 28, 2019, 11:50:07 AM
Hey buddy, my stamps just arrived and damn, they're all Black! I mean, I had zero idea that they came in different sets, like I said, there was just absolutely no information about them, just a standard price per piece on the website of Austrian Post.

And no, unfortunately I ordered only 5 pieces. Not 5 sets. I probably would definitely have bought the entire set if they'd sold it like that! So strange or maybe when I translate to english or maybe it wasn't available to non Austrian customers...

Anyway, scroll all the way down to the page, look on the left hand side and see "Move Topic" to Economy == Collectibles. Good luck!
13049  Economy / Gambling / Re: BITCOINRUSH CASINO AND SPORTSBOOK - Best Margins - Est. 2013 on: June 28, 2019, 09:56:19 AM
@carton97: Yeah, Slack's where the community's at, and you'll gain a bit of insight into the company workings there too -- Monster Byte, that is, of which Bitcoinrush is 1 brand.

@SyGambler: Thanks for the suggest, just did that;) I know serious gamblers probably see $5 very casually but I do like my parlays quite long sometimes, plus you're right, regardless of price a lot of crypto players start of really small. I suppose the alt options should be looked into but I generally hold everything in BTC on gaming.
13050  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Odds, units advantage | Sportsbook | +12192 units | 350 bets on: June 28, 2019, 07:23:46 AM
Tough game the Senegalese had after all, I knew Algeria were a good team, but wasn't expecting the boys in green to run aground on their defences, especially not Mane who looked rather forlorn at times up there.

We'll revert back to the Copa tonight. Venezuela used to be the whipping boys but these days are pretty solid, so can we count on Messi and co to underwhelm again, while backing the Colombians to outmuscle Chile?

Game 1: Venezuela vs Argentina. Venezuela WIN @7.03. Betcoin odds: 6.78
Game 2: Colombia vs Chile. Colombia WIN @2.21. Betcoin odds: 2.21
100 units parlay at Bitcoinrush @15.5363. Betcoin parlay: 14.98

Odds advantage: 3.69%
Units advantage: 55.63

Running advantage after 4 bets: +105.18 (+55.63)
All-time cumulative: +12,297.5
Running units after 3 bets (0W|3L): -300 (-100 units)
13051  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Copa América 2019 Discussion Thread & Prediction Pool (registration closed) on: June 28, 2019, 05:45:56 AM
And Brazil is through, anyone watch the match? This is exactly what I mean so far when I said all the upsets have been worthless -- draws and not underdog victories! Straight ducks all in a row for all of us. I was the only one who predicted a 1 goal margin victory, and even though tempted to predict Paraguay upset, I'd still have lost, so yeah, stupid tourney so far.

If Brazil play like this in the SF, they won't make it though. I still think they need to start with Firmino, yes, he's not samba all out, but he gets the defence jittery and that's how you play against a defensive side. Get them scared. Qatar did it, Tite should have watched.

I'm thinking of parlaying Venezuela with Colombia tonight, and then hedging it with Argentina win. A draw would kill me though haha.

13052  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Copa América 2019 Discussion Thread & Prediction Pool (registration closed) on: June 27, 2019, 08:41:27 PM

Many people including me expected Chile to win yesterday or in the worse case a draw to happen but Uruguay did win.This copa America has been full of surprises and I think that even Ecuador game is some sort of surprise,not being able to beat Japan is not the best of performance from a better quality side.

I actually thought it was strange that Uruguay were the slight underdogs. I'd pick them any day (and I did! Shame it was part of a parlay that failed). I also thought Japan were a good side so I'm not surprised at all they drew (I predicted that exactly in our pool anyway). I think the bookies got it mostly wrong in this Copa, but I will admit  that I was expecting more victory upsets, not just draws. Somehow, draws always piss me off haha.

@tokeweed what happened haha! I jinxed you when I said congratulations, didn't I? I did climb up to 9th but I'd be doing so much better if I didn't back Qatar 3 times in a row haha.

@SyGambler: That's the problem indeed. I honestly thought Japan would push for the winner, since they needed to win but they looked like they didn't want to qualify. Very strange tourney indeed.

Next match not worth betting at all unless you think Paraguay can win. (16/1)
13053  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Trade - mistake? on: June 27, 2019, 05:35:53 PM
You sold you btc too early that day. If you have a 5-10% leverage then you could wait for the pump just like what happenned now. There's no problem waiting it for a few days. If you can see, you've entered an entry at ,10700 and sold it at 10,800. You did not get enough profits since in every execution of entries there is corresponding fees. It just are up your fund.

Try to change your technical analysis or indicators. Also, follow some good speculation price just to give you an idea where is the path of the market. I am not saying you will follow their speculation but it is just a basis for you to know.

He was scalping so it wasn't like ti was too early, people don't just sit around waiting for pumps, no matter the action. In fact, even with the past 7 days all registering new highs, 2% crashes at 5% leverage can kill you at stop losses all the way waiting for those spikes.

OP you made a profit. You did it scalping. There's nothing wrong there. That's kinda exactly how it's supposed to work =)

Often trades think selling too fast is a mistake, but what if the situation is just the opposite? even if you have seen an indicator that it will go down but the opposite happens it is not impossible. so the decision that has been taken is not a mistake if you have already made a profit, just need not to sell all at the same price it would be better to maximize profits or reduce the risk of loss.

Precisely! As long as you entered and exited knowing and understanding why you did both, you're good. Every decision has to be educated and based on sound reasoning. How the market turned out after the fact is more learning. OP prevented an unwanted scenario (loss) so should be happy.
13054  Bitcoin / Electrum / Re: Ellectrum Send Issue on: June 27, 2019, 04:30:57 PM
Now that someone's brought this up, what's the lowest output nodes won't reject now? Last I recall it was still at 3 satoshis/byte, so for a typical SW tx from my Electrum it's 141x3 = 423 satoshi.
Any transaction in which the value of the transaction is less than the amount you would pay in fees is rejected. The default dustRelayFee is 3,000 sat/kilobyte, so for a 1-input-1-output legacy transaction of 182 bytes, the minimum transaction is 546 satoshi. This number will be smaller for transactions using SegWit inputs or outputs. You can read the relevant parts on github here: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/blob/master/src/policy/policy.cpp (Lines 16 - 29).

Very helpful, thanks! So it is 3 sats/byte anyway (though maybe actually less since 1 kb is > 1000 bytes?). Makes me wonder now how much is stuck out of circulation because of this.

I've never had the "opportunity" to send anything so small to be honest, although I can foresee that by the time I'll have some reason to do so, we'll already be taking these kinds of transactions off chain onto lightning channels.

13055  Economy / Gambling discussion / Odds, units advantage | Sportsbook | +12241 units on: June 27, 2019, 09:47:34 AM
Tough 1-0 wins for both our Concacaf/Cup of Nations legs but we folded on Rostov's win against Spartak (shame on you guys from the capital haha).

Copa's got the Brazil game but I don't see them even drawing to Paraguay, not after they finally got their juices flowing in their last group game. So we'll stick with Cup of Nations and a U21 game:

Game 1: Senegal-Algeria. Senegal WIN @2.08. BCR odds: 2.08
Game 2: Kenya-Tanzania. Kenya WIN @2.34. BCR odds: 2.30
Game 3: Germany-Romania (U21). Germany WIN @1.58. BCR odds: 1.57
100 units parlay at Betcoin @7.6901. BCR parlay: 7.5108

Odds advantage: 2.39%
Units advantage: 17.93

Running advantage after 3 bets: +49.55 (+17.93)
All-time cumulative: +12,241.87
Running units after 2 bets (0W|2L): -200 (-100 units)
13056  Economy / Gambling / Re: BITCOINRUSH CASINO AND SPORTSBOOK - Best Margins - Est. 2013 on: June 27, 2019, 08:28:42 AM
Hey guys, I ran into a new issue at the Sportsbook. I'm a parlay player but since BTC price has gone into the stratosphere (relatively), I've decided to trim down on my bets but noticed that 0.5 mBTC bets aren't accepted for parlays. Error message I get is "invalid bet amount" so I assume it's too low.

Only, that's still over $6 a pop at today's prices. Any chance we can consider lowering the betting limits for parlays?
13057  Economy / Speculation / Re: *Q2-BTC-PRCE PREDICTION-GAME* Q2 LIST GAME on: June 27, 2019, 07:05:17 AM
Holy shit this list makes us all look like bears!

You can say that again! And it also makes us look like anything but price experts!
But I see the demand for bear hats skyrocketing.

Anyhow, probably the first time I'm really happy I was so damn wrong about the price.

At least all of us here know we're not price experts (I'm right, aren't I? Wink ) but we definitely know we're probably not worthy of being called bulls. Might really have to give that hat to those crazies out there willing for 100k in the end.

I'm enjoying this for sure, but I don't understand the twinge of nervousness I get whenever Bitcoin spikes over 10% in a day. I'm much calmer in a bear market!
13058  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: The BTC prices are being manipulated, what do the market makers have in mind? on: June 26, 2019, 03:32:55 PM
Well, I've always said to the people complaining about this inflation that it works both ways. I certainly don't recall people complaining about whales and manipulators in the last bull run, so it does help explain the lack of whining in this current period as well (unless you're a nocoiner).

But if it's true it works both ways, then remove them from the whole formula and you remove them from both sides of the equation... ending up more or less at parity.

These üneducated fools you talk about also come in cycles. both at the peak and at the bottom. Those who mortgage their homes to buy at ATH, and subsequently cut their losses near the bottom. Whales benefit the most, but so do the average guys who actually know to hold.

What do the market makers have in mind, you ask? Why not pose the question to the market takers?

Now regarding alts... 15x from which point? Their 2019 bottom?
13059  Economy / Speculation / Re: *Q2-BTC-PRCE PREDICTION-GAME* Q2 LIST GAME on: June 26, 2019, 12:50:47 PM
This is another lol for price prediction "experts" if 12345 wins.   Cheesy

If this wins, it should be a news piece. Put all them experts to shame, no tech analysis I'd seen 3 months ago saw this coming, not like this. 4 more days to crash and burn, it would be really funny if this game saw Ipwich win by being the closest to a really crazy ATH though.

Conspiracy theory: Ipswich is a whale manipulating prices to moon for end of Q2.

The world and micg's prediction games are meant for the crazies. Long live!
13060  Economy / Speculation / Re: For all Europeans: BTC 10000 euro on: June 26, 2019, 12:14:45 PM
Now let's hope that our British friends soon follow suit as well! Brexiting is no excuse for lagging behind in reaching 10k Grin

Well fuck me, that happened a lot quicker than anticipated.

When pullback? The market looks too good to be true right now.

I was actually up early today and saw that happen practically in real time. Felt really good to sell a big batch just yesterday at 10k EUR, had no idea it was going to pump double-digits again today! I'm still a bit mystified by how little the orderbook seems at these prices. I was really expecting those who got BTC at 6k to trigger 2x profits at 12k but there was absolutely no slowdown.

You're right. Looks too good to be true. I'm not sure what to think really.
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