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Hehe Nice Zouh Tounged! So entertaining
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Tutorial will begin recording soon so if anyone is still interested in advertising now is probably the best time.
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No offense, I get what you're going for, but you do totally look like a schill on that thread with the Bitcoin avatar and WeUseCoins.com link. It's not just an open-source project - it's an investment and people will view it just as suspiciously as they've learned to. Let them Google it themselves so the information feels more legitimate.
It's surprising to me how even highly technical people can think that Bitcoin has been hacked, or that a government could shut it down.
You haven't even questioned my intentions so I highly doubt you are knowledgeable of them. But i was going for just throwing something out there and collecting reaction & cognitive thinking data -- AKA Psychological research...... With the answers I've gotten in response to people and its threads like the one I linked is a perfect example of how people think about a new idea in relation to Bitcoin. And these types of responses are what I get from everyday conversations with money & Bitcoins solutions in face to face conversations. Its responses and thinking like this that makes me think that Bitcoin will probably take 5-10 years (or USD/fiat collapse) before anyone is open to the idea of using Bitcoins beyond video game currencies and illegal activity which is alot longer then I originally had thought which was in the next 2-3 years |
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These academics are starting to annoy me. It's often the little, throw-away comments that they slip into a conversation that reveal certain barriers in their thinking... For example: Yes, most governments do have the power to stop inofficial currencies from being used, including yours and mine. I know theres a lot of buzz around bitcoins at the moment but I know just as well that the wise decision is not to invest there.
(bold added) How does that person know whether something is a wise decision or not, regarding Bitcoin? Wisdom implies experience and learning. Did they have a bad experience with Bitcoin? Based on the small size of the Bitcoin economy, it's quite unlikely for any of them to have encountered Bitcoin first-hand. Unless they have some actual experience with Bitcoin, they don't know whether avoiding it is wise or not. They may think they're being cautious or conservative, but a claim to wisdom is bogus. Its conversations like these which is the exact reason why I started this thread. Its just amazing how quick everyone has preconceptions of their own perfect lives. They are happy with what they have and don't want to spend the time to even just read 5-10 minutes up on the subject to see if there is something better. |
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Looks like were going in circles...
So you are attacking USD for being backed by nothing at all (and now I'm thinking you want it to be backed by gold), but support Bitcoin which is also backed by nothing... That's where you lose me. Your given reason for disliking fiat can be also applied to Bitcoin. Back OT, I support Bitcoin because I think it will kill Paypal. This is a much shorter term and much more realistic goal than ending world fiat, and it will probably fly better in the geek subforum as well. I think more then one currency should exist as it should today but I just want to make everyone aware of Bitcoins advantages. Yes I admit that I threw out the word "backing" ignorantly. |
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People need to be more careful when using the term "backing" when referring to money. It has a very specific meaning but is usually perverted and causes lots of confusion.
"Backing" means that a party guarantees to exchange one asset for another upon redemption at a fixed rate. In the case of gold-backed USD, the banks guaranteed to give you gold in redemption for the paper, and this was at a fixed rate. Thus, the dollar was "backed" by gold. That's what backing means - a counterparty specifically promising to exchange one for the other at a certain rate.
Thus, Bitcoin is not backed by anything. Nor is gold backed by anything. Nor are dollars today backed by anything.
It is wrong to say that Bitcoin is "backed" by electricity, or cryptography, or the size of the Bitcoin economy. It is similarly wrong to say the USD is backed by the government, or by violence, etc. To do so is to pervert the term. Bitcoin is not backed by anything, and that is just fine, because it's a commodity unto itself and is valuable for its specific attributes. It needs no "backing" - it is a thing unto itself which we value. Same for gold.
If you find yourself in the position of saying Bitcoin is backed by something, change the term to say "Bitcoin is valuable because..." Or, "the USD is valuable because..." The answer to those sentences will be valid, and you won't be caught in the misnomer of "backing."
Thank you for clearing that up and your insight on backing I think I shall not loosely throw it around so much anymore. |
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Fiat currency is backed by a gun.
this is the awareness that must spread. we must transcend from an age of top-down authoritarianism to an age of bottom-up initiatives fueled by passion and the belief in ourselves. fiat is backed by fear. bitcoin is backed by love.   Deep |
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I was just in the "Geek" section of this forum and I decided to throw out Bitcoin and i got alot of mixed responses, Makes me wonder how to make people listen... it seems people are really happy with worshiping their green dollars that has absolutely no backing at all...
Money is backed by the economy it is used in. Bitcoin is backed by the Bitcoin Economy. USD is backed by the American economy. Neither of these economies are "absolutely nothing." Also, the American economy is currently WAY LARGER than the bitcoin economy. Money doesn't need gold or some other arbitrary physical item to back it. That is a fallacy that people need to move past. Are you sure because I'm almost positive that USD was originally notes for gold back in the day. I could be wrong of course. "was originally" Not anymore. Looks like were going in circles... |
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I was just in the "Geek" section of this forum and I decided to throw out Bitcoin and i got alot of mixed responses, Makes me wonder how to make people listen... it seems people are really happy with worshiping their green dollars that has absolutely no backing at all...
Money is backed by the economy it is used in. Bitcoin is backed by the Bitcoin Economy. USD is backed by the American economy. Neither of these economies are "absolutely nothing." Also, the American economy is currently WAY LARGER than the bitcoin economy. Money doesn't need gold or some other arbitrary physical item to back it. That is a fallacy that people need to move past. Are you sure because I'm almost positive that USD was originally notes for gold back in the day. I could be wrong of course. |
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I've experienced weird things like one time my account was -$20 when I withdrew $20 so I emailed them many times and their response where that i owed them money, and I explained that they owed me money and that I thought this was ridicules since dwolla claims you can't go negative. Anyways 5 to 7 emails later and a three-way phone call connection with my bank to verify my information I finally got a zero balance and when I claimed they owed me 20 dollars still they said they need to look back at my statements, Well my written records said they owed me $20 but when i looked back at the statement listing it added up.... I originally thought I just wrote down my transactions wrong but this recent tradehill stuff makes wonder if they gipped me $20...Scumbags
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I was developing a 2d shooter mmo game for facebook that would use bitcoin but I stopped developing it due to the fact that "facebook credits only" policy was announced..
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No, the tricky part is associating the right bitcoin address with the right order in a human readable and manageable interface. So far I haven't found a plugin that does it even though it seems simple enough on the surface: - Customer A places an order.
- Plugin pulls unique BTC address from database and presents it upon checkout.
- Customer A sends bitcoins.
- Plugin enters that address into a field along with name, email, shipping address, etc.
- You watch the blockchain or your wallet for the payment and send the goods once payment has been received.
Wow, this turned out to be way beyond me. Is it really that difficult to pull a bitcoin address from a database and associate it with a specific order? Its actually really easy to do my 214 lines of PHP code will generate addresses with the associating user id into the database with one function call. https://github.com/Xenland/BitcoinRetail-LiteThe only thing you have to do is make a cronjob(example included) to update the BTC address, which only requires one simple to use function call. I'm leaving you a message on skype let me know if you need help integrating or would like to chat about all the possible options. |
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How come no one notified me of the lack of a wordpress shopping cart plugin?  |
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 So, basically instead of trusting your Bitcoins in a math formulas you are backing your BronyCoins into cute little pony characters! AND WUB! |
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www.CheaperInBitcoins.com -- A service for merchants to sell their items using the brand cheaper in bitcoins. Note: Re-opening this month of April
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