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1321  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What is the perception of people about gamblers in your neighborhood? on: January 01, 2024, 08:23:08 AM
it all depends on whether the country allows gambling businesses. I mean, not all countries allow gambling businesses to exist because they are considered to violate the law and what I know is that if someone is in that country, the public's perception of gambling will always be bad because there is already a law that prohibits gambling and there will never be a negative perception of gambling. ever changed.
unless someone is in a country that prohibits gambling but he can gamble responsibly but always gives alms to people around him when he gets a big win, the community around where he lives will definitely change to be more positive because people feel helped by the help from that person.

well, this is the same as in your country which allows gambling even though people think that gambling activities are considered bad, but if the gambling business is allowed to slowly provide taxes and donate to the poor, it will certainly be very helpful and people will no longer think that gambling is not a good activity bad.

It's just that people who experience defeat or are addicted due to their own fault think too much about gambling, even though gambling is just like entertainment.
1322  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: January 01, 2024, 08:01:54 AM
I'm not sure yet but I think the case between Mbappe and Real Madrid is already closed and there is definitely no chance for this French player to play for Real Madrid any time soon with the current news we see from Real Madrid. Mbappe wanted to join Real Madrid many other times and he was about to leave PSG, but he changed his mind at the last moment for some reason and this made Real Madrid mad enough not to even think about this player.

regarding Mbappe transfer, it is still a mystery, who knows what the reason is and what the cause is, I personally think that in january Mbappe will not leave PSG and in june, when Mbappe leaves as a free agent, Real Madrid no longer needs him.
what Real Madrid has done is this is the second time they have sent a contract offer but it always fails and in my opinion Real Madrid is a popular team in the world that doesn't have to focus on just 1 player to recruit as if it's like begging and it's better for Real Madrid to look for other alternative players. It had been planned previously but currently finding a reliable striker is very difficult if Real Madrid wants to bring in Haaland while he has just recovered from injury and if they want to get Osimhen while Osimhen has extended his contract with Napoli.

It seems like Real Madrid is having a little difficulty getting reliable strikers this time because there are always obstacles and I am doubtful whether in january Madrid will be successful in bringing in a striker or will only look for a striker who has mediocre quality.
and for me actually Real Madrid doesn't need to bother looking for a striker player if they always get obstacles, just put Bellingham in the striker position and look for a partner player for Bellingham to replace Vinicius who is injured even though there are already several substitute players but it looks like Madrid also needs a winger player which may currently be planned.
1323  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: January 01, 2024, 07:02:00 AM
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Juventus did well to win this match. I can say that this was not easy for them. But at the end of the day, they got the three points. And that's what matters. Doesn't matter how many goals they have scored. I was actually happy to see that they were able to keep a clean sheet in this match. Juventus is definitely a contender for the title this season. Now only 2 points behind Inter. So I think they have a very good chance to actually win the title. I know the matches are going to be harder later on for Juventus. But I hope they will be able to be consistent.
well, this is what is difficult for top teams like Juventus to do now as part of the top teams because consistency is really needed to reach the top of the standings and dominate until the end of this season. I admit that the match against Roma was not an easy task for Allegri because Roma had a pretty good defense but unfortunately the attackers were quite weak so Juventus had difficulty scoring but with solid cooperation they could produce a winning score at the end of the match.
If I look more deeply, Inter and Juventus have similarities in performance and consistency because if we remember, previously Inter competed as hosts against Roma and also managed to win but only got 1 winning score and this is the same as the case with Juventus match yesterday.

the competition at the top of the serie A standings is becoming more interesting and very competitive. these two great teams will continue to do their best and compete for the Scudetto title and everything will be answered when one of these teams makes a mistake and loses control and will only be runner up. but it is quite difficult who will get the title because the match still has a long way to go and if Inter fails they may have to fight in the UCL to get the prestigious title to replace the disappointment of Inter fans.
1324  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: French Soccer League Predictions and Discussion Thread (Ligue 1) on: January 01, 2024, 06:32:49 AM
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after reading the long article you wrote, I found several words that were a little doubtful whether Mbappe really refused to go to Real Madrid in january??
If it true, I would say congratulations to Mbappe for losing the opportunity to win the UCL title with another team and preferring to prioritize a big salary.

TBH, I dont know the contents of the pre contract offer with Mbappe and I dont know the amount of the offer given, but in my opinion, Mbappe stayed at PSG not to win something or a title, but he thought about a big salary and wanted to get a big salary before leaving PSG. let's look at the transfer market last season, when Madrid made an offer to Mbappe, it actually created drama with PSG, even though the drama was just to cover up that he didn't want to leave PSG because of the big salary.

I am a little sorry if Mbappe doesn't accept the offer, instead choosing to stay at PSG like a star player who isn't in the right team and I'm not sure whether in the next transfer market Real Madrid will want to make another offer because this is the last chance for Mbappe.
I dont know what this player is planning but it seems like he is too comfortable with all the facilities provided by PSG but is not guaranteed a bright future because he always fails to win prestigious titles in other competitions.
1325  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2023/24 on: January 01, 2024, 06:15:41 AM
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This is very bad news for Barcelona because they are losing key players, and I believe that is why they are not performing well this season. I believe that Barcelona will not be able to compete with Real Madrid and Girona this season because they are not in the form that allowed them to win the La Liga trophy last season. Xavi should simply try to sign some new players this summer to strengthen the team and compete with other clubs. Barcelona is facing Las Palmas, and I feel the match will be a bonus for them because they are not in good enough shape to compete with Barcelona. I believe they will collect three points and surpass Athletico Madrid in the league table if they failed to defeat Girona, Although the match will be very difficult because Girona are in great form and are serious about winning the league this season but Athletico Madrid can defeat them if they will play more then them. But I still believe that laliga trophy this season is for Real Madrid.
It is difficult for Xavi to bring in new players, while Barcelona finances are very bad, currently they can only wait for free players from the transfer market and can free players really be relied on for their skills? sometimes they are even old, like some of the Barcelona players who were brought in for free at that time.
I dont doubt the performance or skill of free players but wouldn't it be better to bring in players at a price that isn't too high who can make a good contribution to the team to be able to strengthen the defense or attack line for the team but back to finances Barcelona can't bring in quality players like us expect.

maybe if this season Barcelona can't win the La Liga title I will understand because the condition of this team is really in a bad condition and this is a difficult burden for Xavi to be able to try to reach the top of the standings with the existing players and these injured players maybe not before. It is expected, but injury can happen at any time if you cannot maintain your physical condition. but I hope that there are big investors who invest in Barcelona to get quality players.

regarding the competition at the top of the standings, it doesn't matter to me if Barcelona can't compete in La Liga or in La Liga because there are already representatives from Real madrid who will beat Girona and hopefully at least get runners up.
1326  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do Owners of betting companies bet? on: December 31, 2023, 07:04:59 PM
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They really can do that but I don't think that casino owners will ever cheat their customers/players even more because they're already making money out of them anyway. And in poker, the people that knows the owner will definitely be not playing with them on the table because as you've said they might've the advantage but I just like to think that casino owners aren't like that and that they don't like the idea of taking advantage of other players when they're already making money. Also, it's a bit weird that they have the time to waste gambling or even betting at their own places.
well, this is what I mean, the point is that it is impossible for a casino owner to waste time gambling in his own casino just to have fun because they already have a lot of profits from their gambling business so if the casino owner just wants to have fun, of course he has other ways to find entertainment to go to. take a vacation to another country with your family or go to a luxury club somewhere.
I always believe that a gambling owner will never damage the reputation of his own casino and previously I have said this in the same thread that has been locked if the casino owner does not have time to gamble because the casino owner has various references to be able to have fun in other ways without having to damage the reputation of the business and perhaps if the gambling owner tries to gamble it is just to test how fair the casino is.

but all this we never know whether what we are talking about is right or wrong because if we are talking about offline casinos maybe it is true but if we are talking about online casinos we never know whether the casino owner is also gambling with other gamblers.
1327  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How will you feel if it happens to you just like this? on: December 31, 2023, 06:26:08 PM
Definitely, the feeling is regret. You will be wondering why you never had the money to bet on the game in the first place. I have been in this situation once before and I could remember that I had the money then but on my way to the betting hub (back then was young and I did not have my own internet device so made use of he local betting hub around where I reside) I lost the money. On the process of finding the money, the time passed so I had to go home and act like nothing happened. The next morning i checked the scores and the game entered. I felt very bitter that day. The feeling of missing out is more annoying than the feeling of losing. However, that day i consoled myself because if the game had lost i would have been happy that i did not play the game. Everything happens for a reason and its not a spiritual thing its just being unfortunate at that point in time.
Even if I can understand in a way those which may feel this way, it is better for them to not harbor those kind of feelings for long, after all it does not make a lot of sense to be that disappointed over something you did not even had the opportunity to do.

Besides if a person can get that disappointed with a bet they did not made, then how disappointed will they get when they make a similar bet and they happen to lose it?
Exactly. You'll only regret missing the bet if it did win, otherwise, it's a relief that you didn't waste your money for nothing. It also happened to me many times in playing Baccarat, but it's my decision not to place a bet even I want to. It's just that, I'd like to see the result first if I chose it. That's why it's gambling, you'll never know what's going to happen next.

Nevertheless, don't dwell in the past and move forward because no matter how regretful you are, it happened already thus you have to accept that fact.
usually if I experience a case like this when I am in doubt I want to bet but am afraid if the result is winning I still bet even though I am doubtful but use a small amount to see the results and I will never feel disappointed with the result than if I am in doubt it is better to keep betting and in this way I can looking at my lucky chances, will I be able to get a win streak like in the past, I bet in the game of roulette, I always bet on every round, but still with a small amount, but after I feel like I have a win streak, I increase the bet amount slowly until I can get a big win.

there is nothing wrong with using this method, but it is not recommended for gamblers who do not have good control because it really requires a lot of patience and a strong commitment so as not to be provoked by emotions.
1328  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is gambling all about luck? on: December 31, 2023, 06:07:23 PM
Of course. even though we have a great strategy. luck is more needed here. We don't know what happens to those like that but we always lose. In fact, I am willing to bet that in this world no one can really win 100% in gambling. This is proof that gambling requires luck to make them win. It's just that luck can't be sought, if it's bad for us it's better to leave.
so what about professional poker gamblers? do they also need luck? even they (professional poker gamblers) can become very rich because they often bet in poker tournaments with large amounts. Is it still considered that professional poker requires luck?

I respect your opinion. Indeed, gambling is always better known as luck, but not all types of gambling require complete luck. you can see the positive side of poker gamblers, they need mathematical intelligence and need the skill to process the cards in their hands to be able to win even if they are only small cards.
unless you are talking about types of gambling, slots, dice, roulette, lottery, etc. definitely depend on luck, even though poker requires luck but not entirely because it requires skill.

I win. Roll Eyes
1329  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Inflation and crypto gambling on: December 31, 2023, 05:54:42 PM
it seems like it will never happen and it seems like it only happens in local or offline gambling.

If a crypto casino has new rules regarding inflation increasing the amount of bets I am very sure that the casino will lose a lot of customers in a short time and may experience a decrease in revenue.
what I know at the moment is that crypto casinos usually have very large revenues and if they experience inflation, the development team will definitely do various things not to increase the number of bets but perhaps increase the amount of fees for withdrawing funds.
and on the one hand dont crypto casinos depend on crypto prices? I mean as long as the price of crypto doesn't increase a large amount the cost of withdrawing money certainly won't be high but if the price of crypto decreases the cost of withdrawing funds will definitely be cheap and as long as I use crypto casino sites I have never seen certain casinos increase the amount of bets just for inflation reasons.
1330  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Crypto gambling and religious restrictions on: December 31, 2023, 02:51:34 PM
as far as I know, muslims do not prohibit or do not consider crypto to be haram, but gambling may still be considered something that violates religious rules.
but in fact, most of the muslims in the city that I know of also gamble using fiat or crypto even though there is a ban, but they only consider this as entertainment and in fact there are still pros and cons regarding whether gambling using crypto is haram or not, which is certain as long as the gambler doesn't. hurting others and gambling using one's own budget is fine.

on the one hand, there are still many muslim gamblers who, when they get a big win, donate most of their winnings to give to the less fortunate or the poor.
what is certain is that I dont really want to understand things like this even though my religion is against gambling but still gambling is just entertainment and if someone said in front of me that gambling is sinful and haram I would answer "then what about muslims who trade in crypto".
1331  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Single or accumulation, which one do you prefer when it comes to sport betting on: December 31, 2023, 01:25:37 PM
I just wish to see people view about single bet and accumulated bet. Which one do you till can be profitable when it comes to gambling. Although I normally do the two but in most cases I prefer accumulated bet to single bet.
I do both but if I bet large amounts I choose to bet on a single bet which is more comfortable and for me single bet can give me a lot time to do analysis.
but when I want to bet with big odds I just use a small bet and choose a parlay bet to try my luck.

most of what I see in the soccer betting section is that many bettors use single bet and parlay bet, they use both because it suits their goals, if they are sure that a single match can produce big profit, they only bet on one match, but when they are curious with some matches they choose parlay bets and I am really sure almost 80% on this forum like both.
1332  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Answer this Gambling Question on Duration of Joy after a win or loss on: December 31, 2023, 12:39:43 PM
No one enjoys losing in gambling.Losing brings our hopes down, it ushers in emotional pain and grumpiness whereas, winning elevates our mood, bringing happiness and excitement. There are games where I have won and after withdrawing my winnings, I am so happy that I give gifted some of it to people around me. This doesn't last for long once the it is out of my hand and minds. I am curious, how long does this joy last after a win or a loss—does it linger until your next bet, lasting the whole day, just 20 minutes, or perhaps 2 hours?

the sensation of excitement will last as long as your winnings remain and if your winnings run out, perhaps the excitement will disappear.

I think most ordinary gamblers (not addicts) usually feel happy and excited after getting a big win, then withdraw the winning money and enjoy it, even the joy will last for one day, but if that happens to me, it usually doesn't last too long, only a few hours after getting a big win.

believe it or not, actually this kind of fun is not only when you win, even when you lose I can still feel happy because it's like a challenge and sometimes I can still laugh with my wife when I lose because we both try to guess the numbers that will come up in the roulette game even though I lose. I'm still happy because I can enjoy every bet I bet.
1333  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Possible measures to stop online gambling addiction. on: December 31, 2023, 12:26:53 PM


I am of the opinion that since gambling sites are mostly online and some has adds that pops up as advert on visited site, one should be able to disable or change their browser settings  by blocking casino adds and as well disabling  gambling sites on their browser settings so as not to gain access to it anymore till the number of days they deem fit to their resolve. This was just a little tip I gave as a possible solution. I had to put it up here for further discussions so that the bigger community can see it as  well.
 

Not seeing does not mean you can get over your addiction, addiction cannot be cured that way, when there's a yearning to play a gambler will find a way to play, that is why restricting oneself from playing in a casino a gambler playing is useless, to overcome addictions, you need professionals you need to stop the symptoms and the urge and this can only happen with the help of professionals, self-cure will not help you overcome addiction it may even get your addiction worse, your recommendation will not eradicate addiction.
yep, exactly. online gambling addiction requires several stages which may be a little difficult to carry out and what is suggested here does not always provide success because gambling addicts still need help from professionals to provide in-depth assistance, provide medication or any assistance to help gambling addicts truly recover from their addiction and eliminate the desire to gamble. but the efforts carried out by professionals require help from the family to be able to provide strong encouragement for addicts to recover from their addiction and a more appropriate way to carry out rehabilitation in the long term without having access to online sites or keeping away from cell phones and the like after that provide activities such as work that can make money and that's when his mind becomes diverted to positive things.

however, all of this requires a great will from an addict who wants to recover from his addiction and the greater the desire, the greater the chance of being able to stop addiction.
1334  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Who among you here is gambling at work? on: December 31, 2023, 12:04:54 PM
I didn't do it. I think it makes us not focus on work. Gambling is usually when I gather with those who gamble too. So I can share my experience with them. this is not bad. they always provide interesting experiences, making my gambling more fun and more focused than when I have to gamble while working. However, I am sure that many people also gamble at work, especially those who work in front of a laptop and are bored with their work. they will definitely gamble or watch the game at work.
You cant really be able to focus if you would really be playing at work on which you cant really be able to assure yourself that no one would be noticing on what you are doing.
Just like the rest been saying that there would really be chances that you might get reported and you might be able to lose your work if you do keep on doing that. When it comes to efficiency
then it would really that something that couldnt really be noticed. You are really that indeed putting yourself at great trouble if you cant really be able to make yourself work
well just because you've been mainly thinking about doing gambling which it isnt really that recommended.
even though gambling is just for fun, believe me, we need focus to be able to enjoy each of our betting sessions, except betting on slot games, just pressing the spin button without needing mental focus.

but if we talk about the risks of gambling at work, there are a lot of risks and one of the things you said is part of the risk because we work in a company together with other employees and we are in a place filled with different people, sometimes lots of people. who are sympathetic to us but sometimes there are also people who dont like us and this is probably what you mean when you gamble at work and are found out by other employees who dont like us, they will definitely be reported to the company owner and will definitely be fired.
If something like this happens, the regret will definitely be very deep, so always think maturely, gamble in the right place, not gamble in the open.
1335  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: The madness of gambling addicts. on: December 31, 2023, 11:40:33 AM
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The reason why there a slated age for gambling is because it is believed that at that particular stage, any one entering into gambling should be more matured and handle issues in a more delicate manner
I'm not sure if the age limit can control gamblers from behaving cruelly, even this often happens at the age of 18+
all of this is actually not about age but the mature mindset of each gambler because even though gambling limits the age of a gambler if the customer is old, they cannot have mature thoughts so their emotions affect them and can be cruel to their family and on the one hand this also depends on whether the gambler is addicted or not.
because there are so many young gamblers out there, even underage gamblers, who gamble responsibly without being addicted and also never behave badly towards other people.

age is just a matter of numbers but it all still depends on the mindset of each gambler, even though it is limited, it will not be able to stop crazy acts of doing evil to other people. unless they can have good self control, they will definitely not be addicted and will also not make efforts beyond their limits.
1336  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Are there long-term profitable sports bettors? on: December 31, 2023, 11:11:37 AM
maybe they are former gambling employees or maybe they are hackers but not sure if they really exist and I never knew them.

this story made me remember an experience from another person, a sports bettor trying to bet on soccer betting with the desire to win consistently and betting at small odds like @1.1 gradually and yes indeed he won consistently but in fact after a few days then his account was banned because it was deemed to have violated the rules.

It seems like the case is the same as what you said, that gambling will never like its customers who always win easily and I understand this case because gambling was developed to generate income for gambling owners, not to distribute money to their customers.
but I believe that there are gamblers out there who can make consistent profits from sports betting, it's just that they never teach or share how to get consistent wins but stay safe from banned.
1337  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: do you lose on slots? on: December 31, 2023, 10:49:23 AM
That's right, gambling is clearly done by them of their own accord as well as with what they do with other things, and if they do it accompanied by drinking alcohol it is likely that they will not do it completely by considering it well, because they are under the influence of alcohol which can makes them not focus on carrying out an action. Even if they gamble without the influence of alcohol, the chances are that they will lose, and if they gamble under the influence of alcohol, they will probably gamble out of control without considering everything properly.
That's what must be avoided, don't let us lose when we are enthusiastic about making another deposit, this needs to be avoided, because even without being influenced by alcohol, this can happen, especially if under the influence of alcohol it is possible that everything will become chaotic, because we gambling while completely unconscious.
It's a very bad mistake if a gambler before carrying out gambling activities drinks large amounts of alcohol which makes him lose himself, whereas if the gambler plays slot games, I'm not sure he can last longer or even just a few spins, he loses without being able to control his mind because of the influence of alcohol. of course, you will continue to increase the number of bets or maybe bet all in in one spin or buy spin bonus.

I very rarely see gamblers who are affected by alcohol playing in slot games but usually they play in card games but if it is done in slot games I can't imagine what if he will run out of his savings in just a few hours because as you said if If you can't control your thoughts, you will definitely make another deposit while playing this slot game without being influenced alcohol. a gambler can lose control, even if he is influenced by alcohol, his savings balance will definitely be destroyed.
1338  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: A tip for staying resposible while gambling. on: December 31, 2023, 09:40:18 AM
from this discussion the conclusion is that to gamble responsibly you must have a strong desire, discipline, commitment and consistency, isn't that right?
sometimes we ourselves find it too complicated to interpret the word gambling responsibly and sometimes we also have difficulty doing this, even though everything is very easy, it's just that sometimes we think too much about very complicated things.

like whatever we talk about here, it's all about tips for gambling responsibly and just imagine we start from the simplest way of planning a budget and stop after losing or after winning and this is very easy for us to do but what's difficult is only our own minds think gambling responsibly is a very difficult endeavor to undertake.
1339  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling should be play with care on: December 31, 2023, 09:29:16 AM
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even with a small amount of money, if the intensity of the game is very large, it creates addiction which ultimately also makes the situation of the gambler worse.
Gamblers for beginners are a challenge to seek fun and luck. and the gambler's responsibility is to control what he bets. if a gambler is not careful and aware of the losses they can incur, then that gambler is in big trouble.
if we are responsible for the gambling we do, everything will be fine.
from your opinion I think about how important it is to manage finances in a gambling budget.
a gambler who cannot manage his budget well, whether he is an experienced gambler or a novice gambler, will definitely have big problems as you mentioned. however, if a gambler has good management, they can certainly avoid any risks that will occur, such as addiction, which will never control him as long as he can manage his budget well.

managing a budget for gambling or managing finances well is one of gambling carefully or more precisely, valuing every money you have. In this way, every gambler will not be able to bet recklessly because they really value their money and enjoy each betting session more than betting recklessly such as increasing the bet amount or going all in at the end of the betting session.

gambling responsibly may also be one way to gamble carefully, but all of this requires a very high level of commitment and you have to learn to control yourself slowly to be able to become a healthy gambler and bet comfortably.
1340  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you blame someone for your gambling losses? on: December 31, 2023, 09:08:23 AM
from some of our conversations, is this a sign or is this gambler who often blames others a gambling addict? what do you think ?

because I think gamblers who are always angry when they lose and blame the people around them always ignore advice from other people and keep gambling after what they want as I said before, whereas the first signs of gambling addiction are they always ignore advice or have very poor self control and emotional which is uncontrollable and I had time to wonder whether a gambler who regrets and blames others is an early sign of addiction or whether he has already become addicted.

just try to imagine if they were an ordinary gambler without addiction, of course every loss was just normal for him and he never made very silly mistakes like blaming other people as described by the OP, but if the behavior is rude after this losing session, there is definitely something wrong with them his mindset and is definitely affected by things like addiction.
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