I don’t know what’s holding everyone up. If I had even 1 .1 2FA Titan I’d have retained legal counsel and made it a class action type deal. I implore people to stop thinking they just simply cut their losses and move on. By not taking action you’re teaching the scammers who watch these threads, and we all know there’s always scammers creeping in the background trying to plan their next scam. Not one physical coin maker who’s rug pulled has been brought to justice. If we continue to do nothing, and people continue to buy funded items, this is 100% going to happen again and again. I’d say it’s likely at least one of the current coin makers will rug pull.

Did some deep digging and it’s very hard to find info, First, no buttons or screens or anything. These guys seem to have been early in the game. One way I know is this - https://www.slideshare.net/cryptocoinwalletcards/bitcoin-walletcards .  So BitBills are the first ever physically held bitcoin. They tried to patent physical bitcoins and threatened legal action against the likes of Mike Caldwell/Casascius and now I’m seeing these guys got threatened too. Gavin created the idea of physical btc, so BitBills was denied patent. It was amazing that so many thought it wasn’t possible. I believe I remember Theymos saying it would never happen, which the guy helped Satosh build up btc, he knows a few things lol..crazy how far everything has come.

I did find a few links on Amazon for these cards. One was IOTA, sold out, the other btc that was sold out of Germany but sold in Japanese currency. I’m in the US and they won’t ship to me. It’s all weird but interesting. Will keep digging.

This is well written, as are your other posts, which tends to be extremely rare for a newbie account with a few posts having just signed up this year. Makes me wonder what brought you here just now, as you’re clearly versed in cryptography (at least to some extent) and bitcoin, .Just interesting, and refreshing.

When explaining btc (best that I can anyhow) I tend to forget some of these points you laid out. Cheers.

Finally..I believe this is German, going to ask my German buddy for brief translation.

@everyone - I’m not sure I’ve even asked this or have seen anyone state it..but has anyone personally ever been able to redeem a Titan 2FA or know someone who has?

I was bored and looking around for new coins and came across some Reddit threads I apparently missed ..it would seem the 2FA Coins have had issues since day 1.

Todamont…is this you below, or a buddy ?

https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/3xz9e9/titan_btc_coldstorage_coin_database_shows/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=2&utm_term=1


Back in 2020 Tim proposed the idea how re-making old peeled coins. It was of course not well received (Anon going GOML on him and justifiably so as Tim was trying to make new sales despite everyone telling him this was a piss poor bs idea) BUT, you’ll see LesbianCow calling him out for non-responsiveness due to 2FA issues..shocker, Tim never addressed it, at least not publicly.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5210516.0



Some random posts I quickly found (I’m sure there’s more)





I already know Tim was planning a scam from early on, if not day 1. This is interesting..so he was charging $140 extra for PK coins , versus 2FA.  There is no logical explanation for this. If anything it makes FAR more sense to charge more for 2FA, as it’s extra work for him, his website, his vault rental at the bank he said he stored the private keys at etc. Looks clear to me this was in aim to push people towards 2FA..and we all now know why.




This post is to inform but also help build the legal case against Tim Fillmore.

For the love of god someone sue this piece of shit.  He’s a scammer, and has money. So many want to hunt down Yogg who stole way less and has no money…I for the life of me can’t understand this.

Have saved this for I think almost 30 years at this point. Screen needs replaced, but I’ll def be getting one of these wallet cartridges.

I still have my TalkBoy and YakBak too if they are next lol


A few blows and it’s working, despite the screen having fallen off (it’s just resting on top now)

Thanks for looking this up, appreciate you both…been meaning to myself. I just found out who Mr Beast was maybe within the last year, and I still don’t watch his stuff..so it escaped me when it actually happened.

@everyone ..Mr Beast states they stole a bitcoin and they showed a picture of a copper btc coin but then says they passed by his keys (I believe, video has been taken down now)..anyone know if that’s what was taken, a copper coin ? Curious as a btc collectibles nerd.

If you read the pizza thread, he comes back at some point and shares the wallet he used to make multiple pizza deals. If I remember correctly roughly 35,000 bitcoins left the wallet, which he stated were used for multiple deals here. He also posted two separate photos from two different deals, one shows papa johns pizza boxes, the other something different. I’m too lazy to dig it up now, but just look at his post history, I don’t think it’s buried too deep.

Edit- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=109.msg5141191#msg5141191

I’m with you on this one Mr Robot. They’ve gone down hill big time these last few years. They deleted the mobile version which had more features such as forum image imbedding/bb code , which the app doesn’t have (or didn’t last I checked). I always had issues on desktop too with images not correctly loading as well as image sizes coming out funky, and resizing option didn’t work half the time, also crap like images flipping upside when uploaded for no reason. They clearly cut costs big time across the board. I stopped using them prob close to two years ago, maybe they’ve gotten better since then. But never going back.

Looks like they started working on it in 2011 from the mock up, but you’re right 2012 is stamped on the coin. I wonder if any of the copies also have 2012 stamps on them as well. Will have to go visit my collection and dig some up and check.

Very nice, thanks for sharing! I’m assuming you’ve only got one, or do you perhaps have another ? Of course I’d love to buy one if you do and if it’s for sale.

I like that some companies and I know even certain countries have been looking at the 4 day a week work week.  I laugh whenever I hear like a YouTube video short that's some motivational speaker who says something profound like "if you work a 9-5 Monday through Friday you're a sucker", shit like that is a joke.  Capitalism is probably the best form of government trade and that requires this type of work ethic/hours.  How else can it be done? Sure some people get lucky, but it's just not realistic to not have the 9-5 for most companies and businesses.

You sold me a couple probably about a year ago now (holy fuck time flies), and I know you got them directly from a shop, do you ever remember seeing the boxes there? I've followed "Which Wich physical cryptocurrency coin" on ebay every since I found out about these but I've yet to ever see one of these boxes pop up on there.  I wonder if they even exist in real life, perhaps this just was for promotion purposes.

I agree.  This is something I have made clear to quite a few makers over the years who've claimed to have been the ones to create this design.  Especially those fucks at Cold Coins who have done nothing but rip people off over the years but have been held to absolutely very little accountability overall.   I wonder how one would even be able to tell today which coins are legit MJB ones from the early days.  Is it even possible?

Wow, I'm actually surprised the number is that high.  I would be interested in knowing what the actual/true number is for how many different people own those addresses out of the entire 1 million.  I would have to guess that at least 15% of the 1 million address are those that are owned by the same/singular person.

As you point out this network clogging thanks to ordinals is not a good look for bitcoin and mostly just entirely fucking stupid imo, but at least it's being so heavily utilized.

This is a tough one. On one hand I don't think it hurts that casinos set limits for their players as a means to not hurt any innocent victims (kids who suffer due to their parents gambling issues, for example), but on the other hand I don't like the government getting in to our business any more than they have to, so I'm not thrilled with stringent KYC rules and things of that nature.  I think perhaps education, and survey's could be a good thing, versus just forcing intrusive mandates.

"Small time winners and big time losers" lol.  That's pretty funny and kinda harsh, but I guess it's the reality of the situation.  I would prefer people use bitcoin to gamble than invest any day, as I think it's extremely important for bitcoin that it be used as a currency, whether that's for illegal or legal things, imo if it's being used as a means of currency it's good for it's utility/adoption and long term outcome.  The blockchain isn't private anyhow and bitcoin being used for illegal purposes isn't a huge issue, so this is why I say this so casually.

This write up speaks to what I've been saying since I myself was back in school many years ago.  I was constantly telling teachers "we will never ever use this in the real world" and to my credit, those statements have held true, but I do recognize the importance of challenging and sharpening your brain, but more real world stuff needs to be built in to school curriculums and I couldn't agree more to what you're stating here.

Just got off the road after working out of town and unfortunately seeing that my strategy of "man both of these teams can't possible get swept out of the conference championships" doesn't seem like it's going to work this time, as it didn't for last nights game with the Lakers lol.  I gotta stop betting on why I think things will happen or perhaps what tends to happen...and base it off the hear and now.  Heat and Denver are just superior teams, and it's been evident since game 1 for both teams.

Yeah man I mean when your best player has been in the league for 20 years, and you still make your way to the conference finals, that's damn impressive.  I didn't expect them to take out the Golden State Warriors, even though I was certainly hoping that they would.

It was a positive year for them despite not making it on to the championships.  Hope Lebron comes back.  I think he will though.