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13241  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: This is why I'm OUT on: December 01, 2017, 03:56:40 AM
No one is forcing you anyway.  Grin It's up to the user if he will take the risk or not. And it's your money, so no one can dictate on your decisions.
I agree with you.
No one is forcing him, i think he should rather join the race early to benefit from this opportunity
rather than to say he's out.

it is up to him, but for me, I will take the benefit while I can and I can use the opportunity to take the risk. it is the personal option to still trade or not and other people can not force getting out from the trade. I think we should know the risk first before we make a decision so we don't regret in the future.

I am not trying to debate but if we have the option which will give us big advantages, then why we don't take it and tried. in another side, every option has a risk and we need to realize that we should try the best we can.
13242  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin is a real asset, but it's in a bubble state. on: November 30, 2017, 10:47:17 AM
At the CNBC global CFO conference, 97 CFO were asked about their views on bitcoin. 27.9% of them think the encrypted currency is trueBut in a bubble state~ Smiley

I think it because they don't learn more about bitcoin so they talk like that. but if they can spend their time for just a little for learning bitcoin then I am sure that they will give another statement about bitcoin. if bitcoin is a bubble then it is not be a problem, people could still make their own money from many ways especially from trading. they will get their time to make a profit from trading and they will make more money.
13243  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: How to start investing with 1$? on: November 30, 2017, 09:11:06 AM
if you want to try with $1 then you need to move your balance into bittrex. on that site, you can find many coins which will give you some flash pump. with flash pump, you can make double your balance but be careful, the flash pump happen for random coins so you need to watch out for every coin. if you can invest more your money, for example, $100 then I think you can have much amount and you can buy several coins.
13244  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: which better altcoin i pick up to trade? on: November 29, 2017, 04:33:12 PM
if you visit on bittrex, you can see that there is many altcoin that you can pick up to trade and you can trade every day. you can find many potential altcoins and after you research, I am sure that you can find at least 2 coins that will give you profit. you can do trade btc pair altcoin with easy and you can buy at the low price, sell it at the high price. you need to check the volume of each coin so you can have data to analyze and you can determine the price you want to buy.
13245  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What is the most attractive concept about Bitcoin? on: November 29, 2017, 03:20:48 PM
what makes bitcoin appealing, in other words: what is the "breaking the ice" part about bitcoin that you can tell a newbie in a sentence or two, too pull them into this crypto journey BTC @millzp0

bitcoin can help you to earn money. that is the simple word for me and it is true because bitcoin is a new source for us which want to earn money by online. we need to hard work to earn our first satoshi then we collect from small amount into the bigger amount and then we can have 1 bitcoin. but they need to know that there is no fast way to earn bitcoin especially if we want to take the easy way because there is no easy way to earn bigger amount.
13246  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: what will happen in Dec ? on: November 28, 2017, 08:34:44 AM
im a fresh noob and happened to come into this game at a weird time , this whole fork business and all got me scratching my head.
I dont know which Alt to even go with

so far I put about 100$ into each on of these

Neo   

Golem   

Bancor   

BitcoinCash


did I dungoof ?

What Alts are you guys going with would anything really even happy by end of the year  ?

PS: feel free to PM me with knowledge because i really dont know what which Alts to get into and Yes I been researching for the last 48h and everything is a mess


you have a good list and you need to wait until bitcoin price is stopping at a stable price so the altcoin will increase. but for another altcoin, I see the price is not getting affect from bitcoin price and some of the altcoins is trying to increase too. bitcoin cash still trying to back increase and neo is followed behind the bitcoin cash. golem and bancor are waiting a good moment to increase back so I think, you need to be patient for a while.
13247  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: China & $10K Bitcoin on: November 28, 2017, 07:32:44 AM
I know most of you agree that China was behind the drop of price to $3500, then now its $10k..Did the Chinese gov just triple their money while we are watching as suckers?



I am not sure with this but the chinese government has the possibility to did this and they are watching until now. but now, I think not just china that want to make a big money but the other country wants too and they have their chance. and if the price still increases, then many people will make a lot of money and the government will have their own money too. but I don't think that the ban from china will give effect for bitcoin price especially now, many people from other country know that bitcoin will increase more.
13248  Economy / Economics / Re: One Bitcoin, $10,000. Ten Thousand Dollars. on: November 28, 2017, 05:58:08 AM
Wow brothers and sisters, 2017 and Bitcoin clearly on the way to $10k

Congratulations to all Bitcoin enthusiasts all around the world, it really has hit mainstream now, has it Smiley

Next big milestone before $25k, $50k, and $100k...

Oh our Bitcoin, the world knows you now!

that is right, the price is going to increase more. like you said, we are going to reach $10,000 at this end of the month. we still need to reach higher price in the future. bitcoin now become more famous because the price is hit new highest price so people out there is amaze and shock to see this. I am happy because my time to sell almost comes and I see many people wait this time too. and in next year, besides we celebrate the new year, we are going to celebrate the highest price of bitcoin.
13249  Economy / Economics / Re: What to do with our new found wealth??? on: November 28, 2017, 04:54:38 AM
I'm currently investigating how to stay under the radar with regards to the profits made from crypto.

So, let's say we made millions, how do you get some of the money back to fiat,but without making waves with the government.

Added, I stay in a corrupt country where large scale government corruption is the norm.

Any help will be appreciated.

PS: Is the idea of crypto not to be anonymous.

you can exchange your bitcoin amount into fiat but you don't have to exchange the biggest amount because it will make the government smell your money and will investigate where the money come from. you can do this at least once or twice in a month or for weekly so they don't suspect that you make corruption too like others. you can stay under the radar with this way and you can still enjoy the money you've got from bitcoin.
13250  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Goverments to go AGAINST Bitcoin on: November 28, 2017, 03:19:05 AM
Governments will not be able to shutdown bitcoins since there are so many people who already invest in this coins and it is not possible for them to remove this currency in this country because a lot of complain will come.

although the government cannot be able to shutdown bitcoin, they can ban bitcoin so people can not use bitcoin anymore. but people will search a new way to still connected with bitcoin and this will like to be a drama on the tv. with the price now that almost reach $10,000 I wonder what the government will react about this and I hope that finally, the government will give their permission to people to still used bitcoin and the government will approve bitcoin for us.
13251  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: I have 12 Bitcoin. What should I do??? on: November 27, 2017, 05:45:13 PM
I have 12 Bitcoins. I am not a whale. I started about 6 months ago with 0.01 Bitcoins and $1000. I turned it into 12 Bitcoins so far and am pretty proud to say the least.

My question is, what do I do now?

As far as I can see, I have 4 options;

1) Hold the Bitcoin

2) Invest in altcoins and leave a little in Bitcoin

3) Fund a project and start my own cryptocurrency that solves a problem that current currencies face (scalability, Tx fees etc.). With the funds, I would be able to assemble a team, start a marketing campaign, get listed on exchanges etc. I am also a programmer which helps.

4) Convert it to fiat (probably the dumbest idea)


Edit: I should also add, I dropped out of school and have all the time in the world so can fully commit to any idea. I will earn my living of cryptocurrencies.

A few people have asked how I made my money so, if you are interested, here is a short summary:

Initially, I put it all into Bitcoin during the massive FUD of the fork around June when Bitcoin dipped to $1,900. Then I put half my money into NEO before all of the hype at around $12 and cashed out at $40. Then I invested in a couple ICO's and turned a pretty good profit of off the hype. After that, I got back in on NEO as soon as China announced the regulations regarding ICO's and rode the wave back from around $20 to $40 (I can't quite remember). Then, I rode the hype of Ethereum Dark, eBitcoin and a few other airdrop scams (after bribing a few of the devs, I got massive discounts in comparison to market prices and drove the volume up on their respective markets to get them listed on coinmarketcap which catapulted their price). Finally, I got in on Wincoin before it got to coinmarketcap and turned a 20x profit.

option 1 is a good choice and you can try with option 2 which is invested in altcoins. you can invest again in ico like you did but always research before you buy the tokens. I see bitcoin price can increase more in short term so you can make another profit again. but I don't think that convert it to fiat is the dumbest idea because you still need the money to buy something in your real life.
13252  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: 2800$ Altcoin advice ) on: November 27, 2017, 04:01:45 PM
Good day everyone.I sold all my altcoins and btc for fiat and i have 2800$ at the moment.
My question is : Is it worth investing for 2-3 months in 2-3 altcoins or i better split my money and use like 1400$ for intraday trading top volume coins for small profits?
If investing i am thinking:Neo,OMG,Lisk but no idea what will happen right now to the price due to bitcoins rise.In case BTC crashes it will grab the alts down with it as it happened from 5k to 3k.
Would be glad to hear opinions.



of course, it is worth to invest for 2-3 months in 2-3 altcoins because we never know when the price will increase and if we have 2-3 potential altcoins then we can wait the price is increase back. if you have $2800 then you need to buy bitcoin for a half ($1400) and save it into your other wallet and you can use the other to buy neo, omg, lisk but I guess you need to wait until the price is down again so you can buy at cheap price. but if you want to buy right now, then its not a problem and you can wait until the price increases again.
13253  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: STRAT IS A SLEEPING GIANT ! on: November 27, 2017, 02:58:28 PM
strat will increase soon after they find a good moment to move up so the price can jump like before. the project has the potential to increase and I think its good if we make strat as our long term investment besides another coin. many people still holding their coin and expecting that in next year, the price will increase.
13254  Economy / Economics / Re: good effect and bad effects of robots in replacing human Jobs on: November 27, 2017, 01:11:36 PM
as i said on the title what are the good effects and bad effects of robots in replacing human jobs.
What is your opinion about this guys.

the good effect of a robot can help us to finish our work with fast, accurate and robot can finish at the right time. but the effect of using robot could attract people to become jealous because this will make people don't have any jobs to do and they will get fired up for their jobs. besides that, this will make people be unemployed without nothing they can do for their life. I can not imagine if in the future, the robot will replace our work and we are not doing anything besides watching the robot is work.
13255  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin is making us money while we sleep, people! on: November 27, 2017, 11:48:33 AM
I was amazed when I woke up this morning and see bitcoin price continue to increase high and I don't think that the price hit the high price so soon. but after I checked in many exchanges, I see it did happen and I am really happy and I did place an order sell in a few hours ago. I think many people shocked when they see the price especially if they are buying bitcoin while the price is at the lower price and now they can make a big profit.
13256  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Do you thinks spending time on bounty projects is worth the time and effort on: November 26, 2017, 09:55:17 AM
I think it is good if we are spending our time on bounty projects because I am sure that there will be many good projects that we can join and finally we can make a profit from the projects. but the hardest part is we need to know which project that will be a good project after the ico is finished and we only know if we are reading their whitepaper and learn about the projects itself. otherwise, we can invest our money into the project and just hope we can take a big profit in the end.
13257  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Traders on: November 26, 2017, 07:15:30 AM
I don't mind if the price is cheap because I can buy a lot of amounts with the small amount of bitcoin. then I can be waiting for the price is increase like usual so I can sell the coin to reach the profit. we can not blame them because their goals are different from us so I think we can only follow the price if we want to make the profit or we can be waiting until the price increases higher. there will be like this since we have many options of coins to buy and sell so I think we should continue to trade without have annoyed with this.
13258  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Eth will reach 1000 $ on: November 26, 2017, 05:44:25 AM
I think we are going to see ethereum price at $1000 in next year because it is hard for ethereum to increase in the end of this year but we still have much time to see the price is increased. I do not think that the ico will dump the ethereum price because the ico is based on ethereum network so it helps ethereum to become bigger than yesterday. and i am sure that when the time has come, the price will be increased.
13259  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: favorite altcoin on: November 26, 2017, 03:31:13 AM
my favorite coin is always bitcoin Grin besides bitcoin, I like ethereum, litecoin, monero, ripple, digibyte but I am not a fan of each coin. I only use the coin to help me to make the profit. I am trying to use as many coins as I can so I can make the bigger profit in the future. but for ethereum, I am waiting the price is increase higher and maybe it will reach $1000 soon.
13260  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin = Fiat on: November 25, 2017, 08:16:10 AM
The Bitcoin followers keep saying the Bitcoin is a new currency.

If that is the case then by definition it is fiat.

When it is fiat, then we will see inflation and breaking the 21million limit.

in my opinion, bitcoin is like a source for us to make money from internet and now bitcoin is not like fiat which can be used in real life although only few country that could used bitcoin for offline transaction. but yes bitcoin can be a new currency in future but for now, its just a new currency that we used in internet and makes us easy to pay something that we bought at internet.
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