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1341  Economy / Services / Re: [CFNP] [banned mixer] Bitcoin Mixer Review#1| 6mBTC+Lifetime 50% OFF | Bonus 10mBTC on: September 30, 2023, 03:43:18 PM
Bitcointalk username: Trofo





I skimmed trough some of the reviews and I saw multiple people complaining about lack of dark mode. Did you guys not see this or is that maybe not shown correctly on some browsers? Looked really easy to spot to me and I did not even look for it.

My review of [banned mixer]

Setup

I used windows 10 system on a PC I had for a while and I have several browsers installed there. I presumed most of the other users used chrome/firefox/edge so I went with less popular browsers and checked the Tumbler page in Brave/Opera/Vivaldi and Pale Moon. Did the actual mixing in Brave and Vivaldi and used electrum for all my transactions.

Tumbler web page
I really like the look of the page itself; it is simple, clean and easy to use. Just what I am looking for in sites that provide services. Somebody complained it lacks a bit of identity and while that can be a minus from marketing point it is actually a plus for me here. When I am choosing mixers I am choosing them on underlying technology and ease of use, UI should be minimal and not encumbered with unnecessary graphics that just distract users.

Mixing process
It was all straight forward and I did not need to look into FAQ or ask for help from live support in any point of the process. I must admit I am not a mixer user in general but I did try Chipmixer, Sinbad and Whirlwind before this one, so I would say I have solid experience. Everything was clear all the time and it was smooth experience. Here are two pictures showing my chosen options.





Why is there a need for captcha? Never seen that on mixer before. Are there bots using mixing services and even if there are why would that be a problem if they are paying same fees.

What happens if user does not send the transaction in 24 hours and is unaware of the time limit? Are the funds lost? What happens in case we loose internet connection or our PC resets, I don't see a way how to continue with just info from our tx.


Fees:
Fees are too high for small amounts (flat address creation fee) but I don't think that is a big minus since I sort of expect majority of mixer users to do bigger transactions. Can't really think of a reason why would someone mix 1 mBTC amounts other than testing purposes like we are doing here.

On the other hand Tumbler is sending transactions with really high fees all the time. This seems problematic for two reasons.
First: it could be cheaper and there could be significant savings made on large amount of transactions. For instance my tx had fee of 43 sat/byte while 10 would be overpaying for first block confirmation.
Second: It could be used by blockchain analyses software to auto target Tumbler transactions

Tumbler code for next order
This is quite unclear how it works. I get it in broad sense, it is used to avoid receiving your own BTC in next transaction. Problem is why is that necessary? Are our funds just waiting on that one addy and will be sent to next person? This has broad security implications and I feel like I could get "dirtier" BTC back than ones I started with. FAQ does not explain this in any greater detail.

Furthermore please add explanation for Tumbler code on following page:



I had no idea what it is for since I chose immediate transfer on first try and did not see the screen where this is shown:




General conclusion:
Frontend is good and does not much work in my opinion. Just add some more explanations in right places as I mentioned above with Tumbler code.

Backend needs a lot of work to reach the level of best mixers out there. First there is a feeling like there should be much more funds available. Comment that I need to use a code to avoid getting same BTC back in next transaction really surprised me. There should be variable fees implemented which will monitor the state of mempool and add some sort of random element to them. Would also like to read much more about how actual mixing works (what is happening with our BTC on Tumbler wallets). For instance we all knew how Chipmixer had premade chips which the user would then get private keys for. I like to know how the service I am using actually works before I would trust them with serious amount of money.

1342  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⭐⚽⭐ Sportsbet's Bitcointalk Sports Fanatics League (BSFL) – 7000+$ rewards ⭐⚽⭐ on: September 30, 2023, 08:48:35 AM
I fell asleep yesterday' before the Benfica - Porto game was over and it's a nice result to wake.up in the morning. Trofo can you feel the pressure? I'm up 3-1. If you don't change something in your tactics, you will lose. I see one more draw answer from you (Southampton -Leeds) but that one could go your way. We'll see soon.
Not really, my players did not follow my instructions and there will be consequences Smiley I clearly stated my instructions and they purposely thwarted me.

I was 100% sure I picked that one or both will not reach final in WTA. I even talked to cryptofrka after the deadline and told him that there is no way for any other answer to happen no matter their opposition is so bad. And then I check the table and see different answer. If I wasn't organizer I would yell scam at this point. Now I can only conclude that it was probably the last question I clicked on and that answer changed while I was scrolling the form.
1343  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [banned mixer] 🦁 Fantasy Premier League Pool ⚽ Discussion Thread on: September 29, 2023, 06:28:54 PM
I wouldn't take any Luton players this week, just in case they get smashed x2  Grin

Not recommended but if you have one on your bench, you must use him. They play better football than Burnley, and I believe they will keep a clean sheet in either of those games.

From 3-5-2 to 4-4-2 after Maddison's injury.
What Maddison injury? He just had a knock and he is already back in normal training as per last reports I have seen. Fully expect both him and Son to start, both were slight doubts. Same goes for Newcastle players, all should be fine except Barnes who is out for long time.

Saka is tougher one and I think he will miss this GW.

Activated the wildcard, but it is quite difficult to make space for all players I want. And I don't mean money so much as actual playing spots in the squad. Don't want benching headache going forward and my first draft had a bench of Areola, Burn, Darwin & Estupinan. Now I dropped Darwin for 4.3 just so I can field more money in first 11.
1344  Economy / Services / Re: [CFNP] [banned mixer] Bitcoin Mixer Review#1| 6mBTC+Lifetime 50% OFF | Bonus 10mBTC on: September 29, 2023, 06:02:59 AM
A remainder to the following users as the deadline is going to end tomorrow for Group-1
I was super busy whole week and plan was to do most of it on Saturday from them moment I have seen deadlines. Did not see the exact hour of the deadline so I assumed it is Saturday end of day forum time.

It will be up by then for sure. Hope that is ok.
1345  Economy / Games and rounds / Re: Sportsbet.io ⚽ Newcastle + Southampton + Săo Paulo ⚽ (Saturday, September 30) on: September 28, 2023, 06:59:36 PM
Game 1:  51, 27'
Game 2:  51, 27'
Game 3:  51, 27'
1346  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⭐⚽⭐ Sportsbet's Bitcointalk Sports Fanatics League (BSFL) – 7000+$ rewards ⭐⚽⭐ on: September 28, 2023, 06:57:22 PM
Re: Audi cup -Best is four teams each group, and we begin with the semi-finals to make things easier. If we have up to eight teams, we divide them into two groups; no additional rules are needed. The question is, how many teams are interested in the Audi Cup ?
No no, this will not be a real cup. This is just glorified friendly match with multiple people. Think of it as league which will be finished in one round. Let's say 5 of us plays, whoever gets more correct answers gets 4 mBTC. Simple as that. If people are tied we use penalties.

What you are thinking of will be maybe implemented in next season and will last longer. This is just one round for fun.
1347  Economy / Games and rounds / Re: Sportsbet.io 🥊 Canelo vs Charlo 🥊 (Saturday, September 30) on: September 28, 2023, 05:50:27 PM
1. Canelo
2. UD
3. 3
1348  Economy / Games and rounds / Re: Sportsbet.io ⚽ Champions League ⚽ Newcastle v PSG ⚽ (Free Bets + Apparel) on: September 28, 2023, 05:47:43 PM
a. Newcastle
b. 2-1
c. Newcastle
d. Newcastle
e. Yes
f. PSG
g. PSG
h. 27'
1349  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⭐⚽⭐ Sportsbet's Bitcointalk Sports Fanatics League (BSFL) – 7000+$ rewards ⭐⚽⭐ on: September 28, 2023, 05:44:35 PM
The Audi 1mBtc side cup could be entertaining, but I'd rather kick your ass first in a non-friendly one-on-one game. The fans weren't happy with the way the media treated the team this season and we are putting it all on you. After I finish you, I'll play Cryptofka in another unfriendly game before the new season begins.
Ok we are on on that match, no matter what. It was for 50$ in BTC right?

Sure, I'm up for this as well. We play the same questions as the Cup finalists.
If there's a draw between 2 players, they shoot penalties.
If there's a draw between more, they split the prize without penalties. Or would you still like to have them? Would be a bit weird though, but it's rateable.
Cup rules, my idea, not up to vote Smiley
No sharing of prizes, winner takes all. If it is draw we use penalties to choose winner. Sounds strange to have 3 way penalty but it will hopefully not happen.
When we put up the questions there will be one extra division called - Audi Cup or something similar (@cryptofrka - you can think of a better name)
Whoever enters that as Division enters the cup automatically, Buy in is 1 mBTC paid up directly to the winner, all Senior Member+ can enter just by choosing their division. If you want in and you are more junior, hit me up on PM and I will act as escrow.

I think I covered everything. Let's make it as simple and as fun as possible Smiley

I am in of course.
1350  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 🏆Rollbit.com | Champions League Pool | $11,000+ in Prizes ⚽️ Discussion Thread on: September 28, 2023, 05:37:29 PM
For me personally it is harder to predict for the pot B. Most of us including myself is pretty familiar with how Superbru works, some players will tend to go for some safe prediction on Superbru to protect their lead or go wild with it if they are behind but this whole prediction on google form with point stake system is completely new for me

Unlike your own money balances, its a point that replenish every week so things could be pretty wild as there is no harm to go wild with your option
I am quite sure I will be much better in pot B than in pot A. You get to pick your own games and you can find few good ones every game week no problems. In superbru you must predict everything and then it is lottery to get exact scores.

Anyway, can't wait for later stages of CL, now there are too many games and it feels like overload.
1351  Local / Hrvatski (Croatian) / Re: Pregled Bitcointalk Signature-Ad kampanja on: September 28, 2023, 10:18:19 AM
evo, i LC kampanja, u kojoj sam, ogranicava pisanje, npr. u Altcoins sekciji, koja je meni bila od interesa kad sam se prijavljivao, i razmisljao sam da li da se prijavim

To ima malo drugačiju pozadinu, altcoin sekcija je još 5x gora od gamblinga. Gambling nam je interesantan zbog portfolija klijenta, Altcoins sekcija uopće ne.
Kad se tamo piše normalno, prihvaćamo - ja ti do sad nisam odbio ni jedan post koji si napisao u Altcoins sekciji a vjerujem da nije ni Trofo.
Nisam ni ja, to je onaj dio di se moraš pokriti ako imaš spamera pa da mu imaš zašto odbiti post. Trenutno smo zadovoljni sa ljudima u kampanji i jedini postovi koje odbijam su iz games and rounds sekcije di su samo kratke prijave za freebet.

Slobodni piši u altocoin sekciji ako ti je to gušt  Grin volim čitati postove iz dijelova foruma di ne navraćam često.
1352  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Sportsbet.io ⚽ Italian Serie A ⚽ Football Pool Discussion Thread 2023/2024 on: September 28, 2023, 05:51:49 AM
Are you suffering because of BTTS?
I don't think I am suffering because of BSFL, my Premier league and Bundesliga pools are going OK and I expect great things from Fantasy pool. It is just these 2 that I have trouble with. I guess it is because I am captain and I have to give you guys head start.

By the way, you will be playing in Div 4 in BSFL next season. Special division just for you for making me remember my position  Grin You have to pay 10 mBTC buy in and first place reward is 1 mBTC. Rest goes to me as emotional damage compensation  Grin

You're suffering from post-BSFL stress for sure, I meant BTTS as that's your favourite market as I recall in Serie A and only 27 BTTS in the season so far (fewer than half?), thought that might contribute to your performance so far.

Div 4 buy in sounds prestigious, where do I sign up? =D
I think it is a combination of that BSFL syndrome and doing most of my writing on mobile lately. Not getting any younger here and that tiny screen plus this forum aren't exactly a perfect match.

I caught on BTTS not happening early on and I am not forcing. This season the one to target is Premier League. With that extra long additional time and most teams playing quite attacking. Spurs, Liverpool and Brighton basically guarntee BTTS in every game no matter who they play against.
1353  Local / Hrvatski (Croatian) / Re: Pregled Bitcointalk Signature-Ad kampanja on: September 27, 2023, 07:34:18 PM
Osobno nemam ništa protiv ovakvog pravila. Smatram da bi kampanje trebale imati veću odgovornost prema učesnicima kao i sami ljudi prema kampanji. Recimo da ih se više shvati kao ugovor o radu. CM u tom pogledu zastupa interese i jednih i drugih te ima i veliku odgovornost za koju je solidno kompeziran.

Valjda bi onda trebalo biti i obrnuto.
Menadzer kada cisti kampanju, "otkazuje" neke dotadasnje ucesnike i angazuje nove, valjda bi trebao isplatiti sledecu nedelju svim iskljucenim iz kampanje. Tako bar funkcionisu ugovori o radu.  Wink
Pa naravno, mi smo upravo to i napravili. Kada smo morali smanjiti Livecasino kampanju na pola, ljudima kojima smo otkazali ugovor smo dali 2 tjedna plaćeno po starim uvjetima. Kako su nalazili nove kampanje tako su nam se javljali i odlazili. Mislim da su skoro svi našli nove kampanje u tih 2 tjedna i nisu bili ni dan bez posla. Svi su bili plaćeni za svaki post koji su napisali makar odradili samo jedan dan zadnjeg tjedna.

Tako nešto uopće ne bi trebalo biti teško prodati poslodavcima i moram pohvaliti LC koji se odmah slozio s nama.
1354  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Sportsbet.io ⚽ Italian Serie A ⚽ Football Pool Discussion Thread 2023/2024 on: September 27, 2023, 06:20:32 PM
Still continuing with abysmal performances in my pools. Can't really explain it. I am even doing better in F1 pool and I never in my life watched a race Smiley

Hope you enjoy being rock bottom. That was me for about a third of last season in EPL, and it wasn't even as if I was putting in wild picks, just can't explain how even correct outcomes only bring 1 point.

Are you suffering because of BTTS?
I don't think I am suffering because of BSFL, my Premier league and Bundesliga pools are going OK and I expect great things from Fantasy pool. It is just these 2 that I have trouble with. I guess it is because I am captain and I have to give you guys head start.

By the way, you will be playing in Div 4 in BSFL next season. Special division just for you for making me remember my position  Grin You have to pay 10 mBTC buy in and first place reward is 1 mBTC. Rest goes to me as emotional damage compensation  Grin
1355  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [banned mixer] 🦁 Fantasy Premier League Pool ⚽ Discussion Thread on: September 27, 2023, 06:13:25 PM
Cole Palmer looking like another, because he was very good for Manchester City in the few games he played, or maybe he has not yet settled down into the club.
I wrote here on the forum about Palmer transfer as soon as it happened. I wrote something on the line the most stupid transfer in this window, bad for all concerned parties.
Chelsea gets another young player in position where they have several and where Sterling (arguably their best player) prefers to play
City looses their product and player that just started having some importance
Palmer exchanges his youth club where he is getting more and more minutes, at the moment Mahrez goes away, for the club which is way worse and he will have even less minutes despite that.

Really don't know how that one got agreed. If Palmer wanted playing time, he should have gone to Brighton or maybe Bundesliga.
1356  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⭐⚽⭐ Sportsbet's Bitcointalk Sports Fanatics League (BSFL) – 7000+$ rewards ⭐⚽⭐ on: September 27, 2023, 06:07:23 PM
I felt myself strange for not making any predictions this week. When I checked the spreadsheet I saw some teams playing friendly matches. Before the new season starts I also would like to play a friendly match. I would be very glad if there is someone who would like to play a friendly match against me next week. Smiley
I already have a friendly match scheduled with igebotz but if you don't find any taker I will take you on.

We can also do a mini tournament. For instance 5 of us agree, 1 mBTC per person, winner takes all. Could be fun small friendly tournament. Think of it as Audi Cup, the only title Spurs managed to win if I am not mistaken  Grin
1357  Local / Hrvatski (Croatian) / Re: Pregled Bitcointalk Signature-Ad kampanja on: September 27, 2023, 05:40:17 PM
Takodjer, jedna bitna napomena i novost u kampanjama koju nisam vidjao ranije.

Please note that by applying to this campaign you agree that if you are accepted, for any reason you want to leave the campaign in favor of a competitor's campaign, then you will have to pay compensation (the same amount that you received during the first week of your participation). This does not apply if you decide to switch to another campaign that is not advertising the mixer, or if you switch to a campaign that I manage.
Nikada nisam vidio slično pravilo u kampanji, ali mi ima smisla, pogotovo kada se radi o preskakivanju u konkurentske projekte. Ako je menadžer već proveo neko vrijeme procjenjujući vašu kvalitetu i dao vam povjerenje, nema logike da nakon tjedan ili dva skačete na drugu kampanju samo za koji dolar više, što sam vidio da neki članovi rade. Tjedan dana cooling off perioda čini mi se poštenim.
Osobno nemam ništa protiv ovakvog pravila. Smatram da bi kampanje trebale imati veću odgovornost prema učesnicima kao i sami ljudi prema kampanji. Recimo da ih se više shvati kao ugovor o radu. CM u tom pogledu zastupa interese i jednih i drugih te ima i veliku odgovornost za koju je solidno kompeziran.

Kada kažem odgovornost mislim:
- Prema forumu: da pazi da svojim pravilima ne potiče spam
- Prema sudionicima: u svakom slučaju mora imati sredstva za isplatiti tekući tjedan a ako nema onda neka plati iz svog džepa. Treba se znati kada je isplata i ona ne treba nikada kasniti. Također ako tjedno plaćaš 3K$, plati prokletu transakciju 5 dolara umjesto 4 da ljudi dobiju lovu odmah a ne dan kasnije.
- Prema firmi koju se reklamira: da uvijek ima najbolje moguće ljude u kampanji i to na način da ih se bira kao takve a ne da ih se ograničava sa petsto pravila. S druge strane pravila moraju biti da se manager može pokriti



Ima vam opet ono blesavo pravilo o neprihvaćanju postova iza 15. stranice - ne znam koliko vam to igra ulogu.
Meni recimo onemogućava prijavu, što postaje slučaj s preko pola trenutnih kampanja.

U ovom slučaju mi je to prihvatljivo jer se kampanja plaća po postu, nije gambling i nema minimalnu kvotu. Tvoj je prosjek nekih 30-40 postova tjedno? Recimo da ti ne prihvati polovicu toga jer je u mega nitima, znači trebaš napisati samo još pet postova svaki tjedan i opet ćeš skupiti dovoljno za maks isplatu. Mislim da ima dovoljno dobrih tema s manje od 15 stranica u kojima se možeš angažirati svaki tjedan.
Poanta je da ne želim gledati koliko tema ima stranica. Kada bot zazvoni, otvorim post koji me tagao i ako imam nešto pametno za napisati to ću i napraviti, ako nemam neću. U takvoj kampanji, htio ne htio došlo bi do utjecaja na moju odluku di pistati, što ne želim. Itekako se vidi kada netko štanca postove a kada netko piše organic. Čuo sam taj argument i kao oprvdanje za uvođenje merit ranka ali tu se ne slažem. Ima ljudi s 1k merita koji pišu organski kao i onih s 4k merita. Merit može biti prvi filter kada se bira čovjek ali nikako nije garnacija kvalitete pisanja.
1358  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [banned mixer] 🦁 Fantasy Premier League Pool ⚽ Discussion Thread on: September 27, 2023, 10:00:03 AM
This is not that double GW when you want to use chips. There will be better ones in future. For instance City plays in world club championship and will have blank in gw18, with probable double in gw20. Which would give them a fixture against Sheffield and. Brentford in that week. Perfect for tripple captain on Haaland if Brentford game actually gets added there.

GW18 blank is confirmed while double is just predicted.

Is it possible to use both at the same time? I don't have Haaland in my team, but I plan to use a free hit during the week in which he'll have 2 games.
At that point I can also use the triple captain or not?

And after I use both of these, I'd simply get my old team back for next GW, correct?
No, you can only use one chip per GW. That is when tactics come into play. You do wildcard week before bench boost. Tripple cap in small double like that city one and free hit in a week when half a league does not have a fixture. Best part of the season for me and one where players give up and stop playing FPL when they realise they have 2 players with fixtures and no chips to navigate.
1359  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⭐⚽⭐ Sportsbet's Bitcointalk Sports Fanatics League (BSFL) – 7000+$ rewards ⭐⚽⭐ on: September 27, 2023, 08:23:25 AM
I just checked the spreadsheet and I see interesting answers that Trofo submitted. How on Earth did you answer that Man United won't win their EFL Cup game against Crystal Palace? I can understand that you expect City to lose against Newcastle (although I don't agree with it), but I'm just wondering did you make a mistake or did you intentionally put that United will lose?
I gave you a handicap to start the duel. It isn't fun for me if it is too easy  Grin

Kidding aside, United have been really bad lately and I thought Crystal Palace can hold them for a draw without much problems. It is cup, not league, surprises are almost expected and we have them every year.
1360  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [banned mixer] 🦁 Fantasy Premier League Pool ⚽ Discussion Thread on: September 27, 2023, 05:53:04 AM
When is this double game week actually happening? I have been patient enough with my chips as I've always looked forward to deploying them whenever there's a double GW to maximize returns.
This is not that double GW when you want to use chips. There will be better ones in future. For instance City plays in world club championship and will have blank in gw18, with probable double in gw20. Which would give them a fixture against Sheffield and. Brentford in that week. Perfect for tripple captain on Haaland if Brentford game actually gets added there.

GW18 blank is confirmed while double is just predicted.
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