Do you use Windows MSI Afterburner to undervolate the 390? What is the undervolate level? What is the maximum you can do? Is that over -100 mV?
Yes, afterburner. Maximum is -100mV on both cards. How much is your power consumption for the XFX 390 cards? What is your clock frequency and the power consumption read from the GPUZ? I did a test, took one old s775 mobo with E8400 + 2 x 2GB DDR2, slammed in two 390's (8GB each), laptop hdd. PSU is not rated corsair CX750M, voltage 228V. Windows 7 x64. Asus has hynix memory and xfx elpida. Clocks 1125/1500, limiting factor is core. Memory controller load is max 80%. From the wall: idle ~100W mining 680W mining -100mV 580W Hashrate 30MH+ 30MH- around 30MH/card. Block ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) .
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Do you use Windows MSI Afterburner to undervolate the 390? What is the undervolate level? What is the maximum you can do? Is that over -100 mV?
Yes, afterburner. Maximum is -100mV on both cards.
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Yeah, I noticed. It is drawing exactly the same power as my new R9 380X (150W) and the hash is the same - 20MH/s. Core/Mem freq are +200 now to 1402/3601. Maybe there is a coolbit option to enable under/overvolting?
Speaking of which - I am not able to find a way to undervolt my 380X card in Linux... Gone are the days when you could mod the BIOS with tools like VBE...
You are right, there is some false information floating around on these forums. 20-22MH correctly tuned takes exactly the same wattage on both platforms. Pump up the mem if you want to see where strix really goes, 4000MHz minimum, +20W. It takes some kind of voodoo to make gpu tuning work in linux imo but when that happens there is a nice reward. Where I live you can find 390's openbox at ~260€. They overclock & undervolt (well I only have two) really well. Hi antantti I guess you are on Windows since you can undervolt your 390s? If you are in Linux then could you please share with me how to do it? Yep, right now my mining rigs are all windows. Last time I needed to undervolt amd in linux I had to flash bios.
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Yeah, I noticed. It is drawing exactly the same power as my new R9 380X (150W) and the hash is the same - 20MH/s. Core/Mem freq are +200 now to 1402/3601. Maybe there is a coolbit option to enable under/overvolting?
Speaking of which - I am not able to find a way to undervolt my 380X card in Linux... Gone are the days when you could mod the BIOS with tools like VBE...
You are right, there is some false information floating around on these forums. 20-22MH correctly tuned takes exactly the same wattage on both platforms. Pump up the mem if you want to see where strix really goes, 4000MHz minimum, +20W. It takes some kind of voodoo to make gpu tuning work in linux imo but when that happens there is a nice reward. Where I live you can find 390's openbox at ~260€. They overclock & undervolt (well I only have two) really well.
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Hi all, Does anyone know how to get the highest hashing speed out of a GTX 970? I have an ASUS Strix 970 and it wont do more than ~17MH/s I keep seeing people claim this card can do ~22MH/s. I tried this sudo nvidia-smi -ac 3505,1202 this puts memory clock to max, and core to 1202, which should be sufficient for Eth. Upping core freq does nothing. Output from nvidia-smi -q: ==============NVSMI LOG==============
Timestamp : Mon Mar 7 18:39:08 2016 Driver Version : 352.79
Attached GPUs : 1 GPU 0000:01:00.0 Product Name : GeForce GTX 970 Product Brand : GeForce Display Mode : Enabled Display Active : Enabled Persistence Mode : Disabled Accounting Mode : Disabled Accounting Mode Buffer Size : 1920 Driver Model Current : N/A Pending : N/A Serial Number : N/A GPU UUID : GPU-4189f772-a656-8a5b-3aa4-00d7d0ece521 Minor Number : 0 VBIOS Version : 84.04.1F.00.2A MultiGPU Board : No Board ID : 0x100 Inforom Version Image Version : G001.0000.00.01 OEM Object : N/A ECC Object : N/A Power Management Object : N/A GPU Operation Mode Current : N/A Pending : N/A PCI Bus : 0x01 Device : 0x00 Domain : 0x0000 Device Id : 0x13C210DE Bus Id : 0000:01:00.0 Sub System Id : 0x85091043 GPU Link Info PCIe Generation Max : 3 Current : 3 Link Width Max : 16x Current : 16x Bridge Chip Type : N/A Firmware : N/A Replays since reset : 0 Tx Throughput : 5000 KB/s Rx Throughput : 5000 KB/s Fan Speed : 41 % Performance State : P0 Clocks Throttle Reasons Idle : Not Active Applications Clocks Setting : Active SW Power Cap : Not Active HW Slowdown : Not Active Unknown : Not Active FB Memory Usage Total : 4095 MiB Used : 1473 MiB Free : 2622 MiB BAR1 Memory Usage Total : 256 MiB Used : 6 MiB Free : 250 MiB Compute Mode : Default Utilization Gpu : 99 % Memory : 95 % Encoder : 0 % Decoder : 0 % Ecc Mode Current : N/A Pending : N/A ECC Errors Volatile Single Bit Device Memory : N/A Register File : N/A L1 Cache : N/A L2 Cache : N/A Texture Memory : N/A Total : N/A Double Bit Device Memory : N/A Register File : N/A L1 Cache : N/A L2 Cache : N/A Texture Memory : N/A Total : N/A Aggregate Single Bit Device Memory : N/A Register File : N/A L1 Cache : N/A L2 Cache : N/A Texture Memory : N/A Total : N/A Double Bit Device Memory : N/A Register File : N/A L1 Cache : N/A L2 Cache : N/A Texture Memory : N/A Total : N/A Retired Pages Single Bit ECC : N/A Double Bit ECC : N/A Pending : N/A Temperature GPU Current Temp : 67 C GPU Shutdown Temp : 96 C GPU Slowdown Temp : 91 C Power Readings Power Management : Supported Power Draw : 136.23 W Power Limit : 163.46 W Default Power Limit : 163.46 W Enforced Power Limit : 163.46 W Min Power Limit : 100.00 W Max Power Limit : 196.15 W Clocks Graphics : 1202 MHz SM : 1202 MHz Memory : 3505 MHz Applications Clocks Graphics : 1202 MHz Memory : 3505 MHz Default Applications Clocks Graphics : 1050 MHz Memory : 3505 MHz Max Clocks Graphics : 1392 MHz SM : 1392 MHz Memory : 3505 MHz Clock Policy Auto Boost : N/A Auto Boost Default : N/A Processes Process ID : 1208 Type : G Name : /usr/bin/X Used GPU Memory : 66 MiB Process ID : 2247 Type : C Name : /home/bobben/qtminer/./qtminer Used GPU Memory : 1385 MiB Process ID : 4566 Type : G Name : nvidia-settings Used GPU Memory : 3 MiB
Any help on this is much appreciated. Log from windows 7 x64, Asus strix 970, hope that helps. Reported 24h hashrate on proxy 21.775MH. ==============NVSMI LOG==============
Timestamp : Mon Mar 07 20:47:55 2016 Driver Version : 362.00
Attached GPUs : 4 GPU 0000:01:00.0 Product Name : GeForce GTX 970 Product Brand : GeForce Display Mode : Disabled Display Active : Disabled Persistence Mode : N/A Accounting Mode : Disabled Accounting Mode Buffer Size : 1920 Driver Model Current : WDDM Pending : WDDM Serial Number : N/A GPU UUID : GPU-2f318d62-64bf-b258-d1d3-651a6cfb35ac Minor Number : N/A VBIOS Version : 84.04.36.00.5E MultiGPU Board : No Board ID : 0x100 GPU Part Number : N/A Inforom Version Image Version : G001.0000.00.01 OEM Object : N/A ECC Object : N/A Power Management Object : N/A GPU Operation Mode Current : N/A Pending : N/A PCI Bus : 0x01 Device : 0x00 Domain : 0x0000 Device Id : 0x13C210DE Bus Id : 0000:01:00.0 Sub System Id : 0x85081043 GPU Link Info PCIe Generation Max : 3 Current : 3 Link Width Max : 16x Current : 8x Bridge Chip Type : N/A Firmware : N/A Replays since reset : 0 Tx Throughput : 26000 KB/s Rx Throughput : 86000 KB/s Fan Speed : 71 % Performance State : P0 Clocks Throttle Reasons Idle : Not Active Applications Clocks Setting : Not Active SW Power Cap : Active HW Slowdown : Not Active Unknown : Not Active FB Memory Usage Total : 4096 MiB Used : 1469 MiB Free : 2627 MiB BAR1 Memory Usage Total : 256 MiB Used : 12 MiB Free : 244 MiB Compute Mode : Default Utilization Gpu : 99 % Memory : 100 % Encoder : 0 % Decoder : 0 % Ecc Mode Current : N/A Pending : N/A ECC Errors Volatile Single Bit Device Memory : N/A Register File : N/A L1 Cache : N/A L2 Cache : N/A Texture Memory : N/A Total : N/A Double Bit Device Memory : N/A Register File : N/A L1 Cache : N/A L2 Cache : N/A Texture Memory : N/A Total : N/A Aggregate Single Bit Device Memory : N/A Register File : N/A L1 Cache : N/A L2 Cache : N/A Texture Memory : N/A Total : N/A Double Bit Device Memory : N/A Register File : N/A L1 Cache : N/A L2 Cache : N/A Texture Memory : N/A Total : N/A Retired Pages Single Bit ECC : N/A Double Bit ECC : N/A Pending : N/A Temperature GPU Current Temp : 67 C GPU Shutdown Temp : 96 C GPU Slowdown Temp : 91 C Power Readings Power Management : Supported Power Draw : 173.54 W Power Limit : 163.46 W Default Power Limit : 163.46 W Enforced Power Limit : 163.46 W Min Power Limit : 100.00 W Max Power Limit : 196.15 W Clocks Graphics : 1442 MHz SM : 1442 MHz Memory : 4001 MHz Video : 1316 MHz Applications Clocks Graphics : 1455 MHz Memory : 4005 MHz Default Applications Clocks Graphics : 1114 MHz Memory : 4005 MHz Max Clocks Graphics : 1585 MHz SM : 1585 MHz Memory : 4005 MHz Video : 1458 MHz Clock Policy
Thanks I got it. I added coolbits = 12 to the xorg.conf and after reboot I got the extra overclock controls in the nvidia-settings panel. Now I am able to overclock core and mem and see the differeince in hashrate. I was playing with those settings last year, back then heavily overclocked 750ti could do 10-11MH in linux... Happy to help fellow miner ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) -edit- GTX 970 is far from power saver with those settings
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Uff, no can do. Platform is stable for everything other, and I don't want to waste more time with ether. Quark, neo and lyra are making money...
I understand. Right now there are some good mining offers for 750ti solo miners ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) .
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Hi all, Does anyone know how to get the highest hashing speed out of a GTX 970? I have an ASUS Strix 970 and it wont do more than ~17MH/s I keep seeing people claim this card can do ~22MH/s. I tried this sudo nvidia-smi -ac 3505,1202 this puts memory clock to max, and core to 1202, which should be sufficient for Eth. Upping core freq does nothing. Output from nvidia-smi -q: ==============NVSMI LOG==============
Timestamp : Mon Mar 7 18:39:08 2016 Driver Version : 352.79
Attached GPUs : 1 GPU 0000:01:00.0 Product Name : GeForce GTX 970 Product Brand : GeForce Display Mode : Enabled Display Active : Enabled Persistence Mode : Disabled Accounting Mode : Disabled Accounting Mode Buffer Size : 1920 Driver Model Current : N/A Pending : N/A Serial Number : N/A GPU UUID : GPU-4189f772-a656-8a5b-3aa4-00d7d0ece521 Minor Number : 0 VBIOS Version : 84.04.1F.00.2A MultiGPU Board : No Board ID : 0x100 Inforom Version Image Version : G001.0000.00.01 OEM Object : N/A ECC Object : N/A Power Management Object : N/A GPU Operation Mode Current : N/A Pending : N/A PCI Bus : 0x01 Device : 0x00 Domain : 0x0000 Device Id : 0x13C210DE Bus Id : 0000:01:00.0 Sub System Id : 0x85091043 GPU Link Info PCIe Generation Max : 3 Current : 3 Link Width Max : 16x Current : 16x Bridge Chip Type : N/A Firmware : N/A Replays since reset : 0 Tx Throughput : 5000 KB/s Rx Throughput : 5000 KB/s Fan Speed : 41 % Performance State : P0 Clocks Throttle Reasons Idle : Not Active Applications Clocks Setting : Active SW Power Cap : Not Active HW Slowdown : Not Active Unknown : Not Active FB Memory Usage Total : 4095 MiB Used : 1473 MiB Free : 2622 MiB BAR1 Memory Usage Total : 256 MiB Used : 6 MiB Free : 250 MiB Compute Mode : Default Utilization Gpu : 99 % Memory : 95 % Encoder : 0 % Decoder : 0 % Ecc Mode Current : N/A Pending : N/A ECC Errors Volatile Single Bit Device Memory : N/A Register File : N/A L1 Cache : N/A L2 Cache : N/A Texture Memory : N/A Total : N/A Double Bit Device Memory : N/A Register File : N/A L1 Cache : N/A L2 Cache : N/A Texture Memory : N/A Total : N/A Aggregate Single Bit Device Memory : N/A Register File : N/A L1 Cache : N/A L2 Cache : N/A Texture Memory : N/A Total : N/A Double Bit Device Memory : N/A Register File : N/A L1 Cache : N/A L2 Cache : N/A Texture Memory : N/A Total : N/A Retired Pages Single Bit ECC : N/A Double Bit ECC : N/A Pending : N/A Temperature GPU Current Temp : 67 C GPU Shutdown Temp : 96 C GPU Slowdown Temp : 91 C Power Readings Power Management : Supported Power Draw : 136.23 W Power Limit : 163.46 W Default Power Limit : 163.46 W Enforced Power Limit : 163.46 W Min Power Limit : 100.00 W Max Power Limit : 196.15 W Clocks Graphics : 1202 MHz SM : 1202 MHz Memory : 3505 MHz Applications Clocks Graphics : 1202 MHz Memory : 3505 MHz Default Applications Clocks Graphics : 1050 MHz Memory : 3505 MHz Max Clocks Graphics : 1392 MHz SM : 1392 MHz Memory : 3505 MHz Clock Policy Auto Boost : N/A Auto Boost Default : N/A Processes Process ID : 1208 Type : G Name : /usr/bin/X Used GPU Memory : 66 MiB Process ID : 2247 Type : C Name : /home/bobben/qtminer/./qtminer Used GPU Memory : 1385 MiB Process ID : 4566 Type : G Name : nvidia-settings Used GPU Memory : 3 MiB
Any help on this is much appreciated. Log from windows 7 x64, Asus strix 970, hope that helps. Reported 24h hashrate on proxy 21.775MH. ==============NVSMI LOG==============
Timestamp : Mon Mar 07 20:47:55 2016 Driver Version : 362.00
Attached GPUs : 4 GPU 0000:01:00.0 Product Name : GeForce GTX 970 Product Brand : GeForce Display Mode : Disabled Display Active : Disabled Persistence Mode : N/A Accounting Mode : Disabled Accounting Mode Buffer Size : 1920 Driver Model Current : WDDM Pending : WDDM Serial Number : N/A GPU UUID : GPU-2f318d62-64bf-b258-d1d3-651a6cfb35ac Minor Number : N/A VBIOS Version : 84.04.36.00.5E MultiGPU Board : No Board ID : 0x100 GPU Part Number : N/A Inforom Version Image Version : G001.0000.00.01 OEM Object : N/A ECC Object : N/A Power Management Object : N/A GPU Operation Mode Current : N/A Pending : N/A PCI Bus : 0x01 Device : 0x00 Domain : 0x0000 Device Id : 0x13C210DE Bus Id : 0000:01:00.0 Sub System Id : 0x85081043 GPU Link Info PCIe Generation Max : 3 Current : 3 Link Width Max : 16x Current : 8x Bridge Chip Type : N/A Firmware : N/A Replays since reset : 0 Tx Throughput : 26000 KB/s Rx Throughput : 86000 KB/s Fan Speed : 71 % Performance State : P0 Clocks Throttle Reasons Idle : Not Active Applications Clocks Setting : Not Active SW Power Cap : Active HW Slowdown : Not Active Unknown : Not Active FB Memory Usage Total : 4096 MiB Used : 1469 MiB Free : 2627 MiB BAR1 Memory Usage Total : 256 MiB Used : 12 MiB Free : 244 MiB Compute Mode : Default Utilization Gpu : 99 % Memory : 100 % Encoder : 0 % Decoder : 0 % Ecc Mode Current : N/A Pending : N/A ECC Errors Volatile Single Bit Device Memory : N/A Register File : N/A L1 Cache : N/A L2 Cache : N/A Texture Memory : N/A Total : N/A Double Bit Device Memory : N/A Register File : N/A L1 Cache : N/A L2 Cache : N/A Texture Memory : N/A Total : N/A Aggregate Single Bit Device Memory : N/A Register File : N/A L1 Cache : N/A L2 Cache : N/A Texture Memory : N/A Total : N/A Double Bit Device Memory : N/A Register File : N/A L1 Cache : N/A L2 Cache : N/A Texture Memory : N/A Total : N/A Retired Pages Single Bit ECC : N/A Double Bit ECC : N/A Pending : N/A Temperature GPU Current Temp : 67 C GPU Shutdown Temp : 96 C GPU Slowdown Temp : 91 C Power Readings Power Management : Supported Power Draw : 173.54 W Power Limit : 163.46 W Default Power Limit : 163.46 W Enforced Power Limit : 163.46 W Min Power Limit : 100.00 W Max Power Limit : 196.15 W Clocks Graphics : 1442 MHz SM : 1442 MHz Memory : 4001 MHz Video : 1316 MHz Applications Clocks Graphics : 1455 MHz Memory : 4005 MHz Default Applications Clocks Graphics : 1114 MHz Memory : 4005 MHz Max Clocks Graphics : 1585 MHz SM : 1585 MHz Memory : 4005 MHz Video : 1458 MHz Clock Policy
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No. Only to upgrade.
Try some older drivers and see what happens.
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Still no luck on 750ti. Again some cuda problem ![Sad](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/sad.gif) Anyone with working eth mining on Win7 64bit? Strange. Have you tried to downgrade your drivers?
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I hope you have a lot of hashing power. Finding blocks isn't as easy anymore lately. Not looking for ease.. I have much patience.. Im running 150 mhs now and will be upgrading to over 500 at the end of the month. I bought 2k eth on the presale and still hold onto that(i am starting to see the light on this coin:) bitcoin cant get their shit together.. Ive been following this coin since birth and have a great feeling about this one.. What i dont like to see is the lack of decentralization. dwarfpool imo is far too big when compared to the rest of the network. http://etherscan.io/stats/miner?range=7 > Im going to do my part in helping this out.. at my current speed with decent luck i should find a block just about every other day.. Which is fine by me.. With good luck i could do far better than being on a pool or it could be worse.. chance im willing to take.. i have great network connectivity so i will give this a go.. Like i said will see how it goes for a week or two.. Best Regards d57heinz I don't hope bad things to happen to anyone but as a small solominer, I wouldn't cry if Dwarfpool (or some other big pool) had some serious technical issues...
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Why? With 2mhash in windows you will earn less than $0.5 per 750ti. Decred with sp-mod private does $1.33 and use only 38 watt..
At first I thought there was a typo but there isn't. Not so long ago you would have been king of mining hill with $0.50/ day/ 750ti.
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Exclude the 750ti cards. only compute 5.2 cards will work.
So 750tis dont work, cause of the newest miner not supporting 5.0 compute? Any idea what is the latest version to support 5.0? Thanks ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) They do work but nowadays DAG file size is too big for 750ti so it is not worth to mine ETH with them anymore. Well it seems they do not work. I am aware of the low hashrate problems, but I am just trying to find out, if it should or not work at all. But for now it should be working? After driver crashes I get this error: `CUDA error in func 'ethash_cuda_miner::search' at line 288 : unknown error.`
Hi. I have the same problem with my 6*750ti rig! Driver crashes and this message appears ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) I tried to update Nvidia driver to 362.00 (10.18.13.6200 WHQL), but no luck. Same here, looks like support for compute 5.0 was dropped in miner. @sp_ can you please confirm and point to latest revision working for 750ti? http://cryptomining-blog.com/5684-updated-ethminer-0-9-41-nvidia-cuda-version-for-windows-2/That one still works with 970. I find no speeds gains between it and newer versions.
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u guys are solo mining or pool ?
lol you can not solo mining, network is 1 tera Yes you can, actually quite many posters here do solomine. Even my lonely amd 290 managed to find a block during weekend, that happens about once a week on average. Feels a bit funny when 200€ card finds a block worth 50€... Most important thing is reliable and low latency network connection. how much is one block 3-4 ethereum? 5 ETH is difficult to setup the solo mining? i want to try It is not so difficult to set up solo mining. You can find some information in the forum or the http://cryptomining-blog.com/And remember to use --fast switch when you sync blockchain first time and use powerful pc for that if possible. It is almost 10GB so it takes time to load.
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how to mine with two card on ethereum? -d 0 1 not working, -t not working either
ethminer.exe --farm-recheck 3000 -U -F http://eth-us.suprnova.cc:3001/razorsedge.eth1/22 --cuda-devices 0 1 Wait for the dag file to be created. So it's --cuda-devices 0 1 Isn't that farm-recheck value a bit too high? 3 seconds is quite a lot when average block time is 16-17 secs. I have no idea antantti What should it be? thx I think it defaults to 500 if you don't specify value at all. Pools quite often recommend 100-200 values for their mining proxies.
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Exclude the 750ti cards. only compute 5.2 cards will work.
So 750tis dont work, cause of the newest miner not supporting 5.0 compute? Any idea what is the latest version to support 5.0? Thanks ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) They do work but nowadays DAG file size is too big for 750ti so it is not worth to mine ETH with them anymore.
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u guys are solo mining or pool ?
lol you can not solo mining, network is 1 tera Yes you can, actually quite many posters here do solomine. Even my lonely amd 290 managed to find a block during weekend, that happens about once a week on average. Feels a bit funny when 200€ card finds a block worth 50€... Most important thing is reliable and low latency network connection. how much is one block 3-4 ethereum? 5 ETH
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how to mine with two card on ethereum? -d 0 1 not working, -t not working either
ethminer.exe --farm-recheck 3000 -U -F http://eth-us.suprnova.cc:3001/razorsedge.eth1/22 --cuda-devices 0 1 Wait for the dag file to be created. So it's --cuda-devices 0 1 Isn't that farm-recheck value a bit too high? 3 seconds is quite a lot when average block time is 16-17 secs.
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u guys are solo mining or pool ?
lol you can not solo mining, network is 1 tera Yes you can, actually quite many posters here do solomine. Even my lonely amd 290 managed to find a block during weekend, that happens about once a week on average. Feels a bit funny when 200€ card finds a block worth 50€... Most important thing is reliable and low latency network connection.
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hello
I know you prolly come across this once before.. im having an odd issue.. I have multiple computers running several 7970 each.. What im doing is using windows remote desktop to swap between the different rigs.. What is weird is if i start ethminer within remote desktop it will only see one card, I then have to reboot computer and hook a monitor up to it and load ethminer from that console.> Have any of you seen this or had this happen.. seems their is an odd glitch if i try to run ethminer thru remote desktop. All computer running win 10 pro.
Best Regards d57heinz
If you're using batch scripts, try launching them as administrator (paths to exe's have to be full). Or try launching cmd as admin, cd to the dir, then running the batch file. I do the same with remote desktop but don't have the problem you're seeing (however I'm running nvidia cards)... MSI Afterburner & RDP issues... If I connect to nvidia rig everything works like it should. But when connecting to amd rig every setting in afterburner is zeroed. 1 ETH bounty to whoever finds a solution for this ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Vnc......... Or use sapphire trixx Vnc did the trick, thanks!
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Yeah it's all true, and they do get that hash rate because a lot of miners are to lazy to go and sell their eth themselves.
It's easy, you mine and get payed in btc. That's why it's popular. And in a way that is understandable.
and the rate is not 60%. i typed in my hash on a calculator, mined NH for 24 hours and got almost the same amount of btc the calc said i should get.. they do charge a 2 or 3% fee. Why would I sell my ETH for BTC at current market? I just don't get it. I mean, I understand ETH for fiat but for BTC? why not.. its a good profit and im going to mine eth for a month on my 4 270x's and buy a 390x with the btc. To me BTC looks like a falling knife. But maybe it is just me. yeah but i cant spend eth on newegg.. :/ What is wrong with USD? with exchange rates, cashing out usd would certainly null out any profits? Considering you are still using checks that might be the case. Withdrawal cost to EUR is flat 9 cents. Normally takes 4-12 hours. i think you are making things too complicated to prove a point.. most exchanges you need to verify before you can cash out.. most keep track of cash withdraws and send you a 1099 if you hit a certain point. most charge a fee.. and have a minimum and maximum amount you can cash out. plus like you said, it takes hours to get your money.. Ok, I didn't know it is that much regulated there. If I want to stay anonymous I normally use xmr.to -EDIT- Or Bitcoin ATM
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