We elected Bush Jr twice (well once....). Never underestimate our stupidity.
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Trump: Make America Hate Again
Trump needs Bitcoin. To become dictator he's going to need to overthrow the FED.
He can just own it or manipulate it, that's what dictators do. I don't know how it works in the USA but in Venezuela, was the congress who chose the Central Bank board, with Chavez (after having full 'chavista' congress) he make that the board needs to be proposed by the president and approved by the congress. Maduro with 'superpowers' (The 'chavista' majority congress granted the president the power of legislation) stated that the board it's only chosen by the president. That's the dictators way, be careful my dear americans  It's about time self righteous Americans get what they deserve. Their Jesus isn't going to save them from Trump. I can't believe Americans are so ignorant they would elect Trump POTUS. He said he's for the working class but has 3500 lawsuits for not paying his workers. Amerifoons. The great buffoons of the world. |
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So, what if Trump bans Bitcoin in the USA? i.e. to avoid capital flight or to "fight terorrism"
Could the CIA or the FBI or NSA (i don't know) track your tx id to your ip? is that possible?
What could be the american people response?
i think it will not stopped bitcoin for being use in USA and i am sure that people in the USA will find and use another way to use bitcoin. i am agree with fight terrorism but i hope that trump is not going to judged that every bitcoin user is involve with terrorism because we don't know who is the real terrorism and who is not. maybe cia or fbi or nsa can track our tx id to our ip because they have source to do that but as long as we don't do any illegal activities, i am sure that we'll be fine and safe. I'm fully agreed with this, i hope that he would no extrapolate bitcoin users as a terrorists like he did with muslim refugees. Not every muslim is a terrorist, not every bitcoiner has bad intentions.
Trump is not stupid, he won't ban bitcoin, his financial cheif is bitcoiner, he will embrace bitcoin payment and blockchain innovation. In the next 4 years, he will make bitcoin great in the world.
Not sure about the "embracing bitcoin payment", banks would'nt let that happenthat easy Trump: Make America Hate Again Trump needs Bitcoin. To become dictator he's going to need to overthrow the FED. |
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Baba Vanga
She is called the Nostradamus of the Balkans, and with good reason. Baba Vanga, the blind Bulgarian clairvoyant, who died 20 years ago, is believed to have predicted the rise of the ISIS, the fall of the twin towers, the 2004 Tsunami, and the global warming, among a host of other events.
Predictions
Barack Obama will be the last president of the US: Baba Vanga had predicted that the 44th US president would be an African American, but she had also added that he would be the last one. According to her, he would leave office at a time when the country would be in economic ruins, and there would be a huge divide between the northern and southern states – as was the case during the American Civil War.
China will become the new super power: As per her predictions, China is set to become the new superpower in 2018, bringing an end to the United States and its economy. According to her, the exploiters (the developed nations) will become the exploited (the third world). In 2011, the International Monetary Fund had also predicted that China’s economy will overtake that of the US in 2016, emerging as the new superpower. A new money will lead them to power. Bitcoin maybe?
Strike 1, Even if the US did crumble, which it won't for the next 4 years. Trump would be considered the last President of the US, so she is already batting zero on that one. So forgive me, if I doubt her, did she predict any winning lottery numbers, it would give her more credibility if she did?  FYI: She was also wrong on Europe will cease to exist: According to Baba Vanga, the continent will cease to exist by 2016, and all that would remain will be empty spaces and wasteland, nearly devoid of any form of life. She is reported to have said that chemical weapons would be used by extremists against Europe. FYI2: Baba Vanga had predicted that the 44th US president would be an African American,Although the number of presidents counts as 44, the actual number of people who have served as president is 43.
This is because Grover Cleveland was elected into office for two nonconsecutive terms and counts as both the 22nd and the 24th president. Technically Trump is the 44th person to serve as President , funny he does not look African American.  FYI3: She even contradicts herself. https://www.yahoo.com/news/heres-what-baba-vanga-predicted-for-2016-and-the-192833607.html?ref=gsSaying the US & Europe are destroyed in 2016 , but yet the US is attacking Europe in 2066.  I don't believe it either but it's fun to think about. That's the same reasoning I use to not believe in god. The predictions are close but not close enough to make me think it's anything but bullshit. BTW: Where the fuck is Jesus, he's a couple thousand years late. LOL |
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Why would the Chinese need a new blockchain when they already have bitcoin? A majority of the miners are there and most of the transactions are Chinese. Can't the Chinese government just confiscate the existing mining farms start their own dev team and just use Bitcoin? Bitcoin could fork and be western bitcoin with no volume and china bitcoin with all the volume.
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Mrs Hillary wasn't the smartest tool in the box to put against Trump... Our fellow Americans ended up with a choice between evil or lesser evil, and no one could tell exactly which was which.
Now they are stuck with a reality show host for POTUS...
Another thing the Congress and the Senate may think about is to set an expire date for given office powers. Otherwise the next president heritages all powers from his predecessors and... let's just say that might not be quite a good idea.
Baba Vanga predicted the current troubles with government. You're right the two candidates were no choice but the wrong one might have won. She is called the Nostradamus of the Balkans, and with good reason. Baba Vanga, the blind Bulgarian clairvoyant, who died 20 years ago, is believed to have predicted the rise of the ISIS, the fall of the twin towers, the 2004 Tsunami, and the global warming, among a host of other events.
Predictions
Barack Obama will be the last president of the US: Baba Vanga had predicted that the 44th US president would be an African American, but she had also added that he would be the last president. According to her, he would leave office at a time when the country would be in economic ruins, and there would be a huge divide between the northern and southern states – as was the case during the American Civil War.
China will become the new super power: As per her predictions, China is set to become the new superpower in 2018, bringing an end to the United States and its economy. According to her, the exploiters (the developed nations) will become the exploited (the third world). In 2011, the International Monetary Fund had also predicted that China’s economy will overtake that of the US in 2016, emerging as the new superpower. A new money will lead them to power. Bitcoin maybe?  Trump is the 45th president. Is he President or the new Czar of America? Maybe she meant the last true President? |
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Nope, that is "only" a temporary receivership order, and was lifted after the case was investigated and a settlement was agreed upon... A case brought against them at this point would be like me trying to sue Montgomery Ward or Mervyn's. [img] I'm not that well versed in USA law, but "here" in Europe a case concerning "Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations" would certainly go even beyond a possible bankruptcy and directly onto the principals (as private persons). As far as I can see "the fat lady has not sung yet"...  I wish you were right. There should be some sort of "public raping with a baseball bat" reserved for the worst abusers of people. Unfortunately, that's not the case. They are gone and closed. A while ago I called Kennel Creek pet resort and daycare next door to their office and asked if they would mind delivering an urgent message to them. (Very nice lady btw. I would use her daycare for my dog if I lived in the area.) She told me they were completely closed up. She could see through the window and they were cleaned out. I don't believe there is any criminal way to punish the principals now but keep a happy thought. I doubt they are still even around to be prosecuted. They were stupid but I doubt they are that stupid unless they were told by their attorney that they could take no personal responsibility and it would all fall on the company. They are all probably very far away at this point. |
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Mrs Hillary wasn't the smartest tool in the box to put against Trump... Our fellow Americans ended up with a choice between evil or lesser evil, and no one could tell exactly which was which.
Now they are stuck with a reality show host for POTUS...
Another thing the Congress and the Senate may think about is to set an expire date for given office powers. Otherwise the next president heritages all powers from his predecessors and... let's just say that might not be quite a good idea.
Baba Vanga predicted the current troubles with government. You're right the two candidates were no choice but the wrong one might have won. She is called the Nostradamus of the Balkans, and with good reason. Baba Vanga, the blind Bulgarian clairvoyant, who died 20 years ago, is believed to have predicted the rise of the ISIS, the fall of the twin towers, the 2004 Tsunami, and the global warming, among a host of other events.
Predictions
Barack Obama will be the last president of the US: Baba Vanga had predicted that the 44th US president would be an African American, but she had also added that he would be the last president. According to her, he would leave office at a time when the country would be in economic ruins, and there would be a huge divide between the northern and southern states – as was the case during the American Civil War.
China will become the new super power: As per her predictions, China is set to become the new superpower in 2018, bringing an end to the United States and its economy. According to her, the exploiters (the developed nations) will become the exploited (the third world). In 2011, the International Monetary Fund had also predicted that China’s economy will overtake that of the US in 2016, emerging as the new superpower. A new money will lead them to power. Bitcoin maybe? |
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I just noticed a "new" lawsuit against BFL (and its principals) at: JUSTIA Dockets and Filings: Bevand v. BF Labs Inc. et al. The "Nature of Suit: Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations" sounds interesting enough... Anyone still around with a PACER login to check out the full docket? It doesn't matter because they are completely gone, all their assets seized and the business closed. See this document: https://www.ftc.gov/system/files/documents/cases/140923utterflylabstro.pdfA case brought against them at this point would be like me trying to sue Montgomery Ward or Mervyn's.  |
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Nostradamus Predictions 2017: Is Donald Trump The ‘Third Antichrist’ One quatrain referred to a “false trumpet” and the similarity to Trump’s own name is uncanny. The following lines also point to the change that Trump promised America “The false trumpet concealing madness
will cause Byzantium to change its laws.
From Egypt there will go forth a man who wants
the edict withdrawn, changing money and standards.”
“The false message about the rigged election
to run through the city stopping the broken pact;
voices bought, chapel stained with blood,
the empire contracted to another one.”
“The great shameless, audacious bawler,
He will be elected governor of the army:
The boldness of his contention,
The bridge broken, the city faint from fear.”
Source: http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/real-life/news-life/nostradamus-predictions-2017-donald-trumps-tough-year/news-story/22833cb4b1ce7ede71d4d8c1764167c3But what does Nostradamus tell us about Bitcoin? I guess that would interest people much more than what he tells about Trump. "I see the times of great hardship, suffering and pain in the future. A coin will exist and not exist at the same time that comes and uncomes. It will crush all other coins and gold and silver too. Kingdoms will fall and the chaff-colored beast will emerge out of the tower of Babylon to stop this coin and punish people. But people will rise and kill the beast and proclaim the coin their new king"...  Alternative versions and endings are welcomed It's very entertaining to believe that those three letter agencies are not tracking bitcoin users at this moment. I am damn sure there are many activities are taking place behind the curtain and we are unaware of it. Let's realise the fact that governments are much happy about bitcoin or cryptocurrencies because it is something that is grabbing control from the governments It yet remains to be seen if Bitcoin wasn't in fact conceived by one of these agencies Baba Vanga She is called the Nostradamus of the Balkans, and with good reason. Baba Vanga, the blind Bulgarian clairvoyant, who died 20 years ago, is believed to have predicted the rise of the ISIS, the fall of the twin towers, the 2004 Tsunami, and the global warming, among a host of other events. Predictions Barack Obama will be the last president of the US: Baba Vanga had predicted that the 44th US president would be an African American, but she had also added that he would be the last one. According to her, he would leave office at a time when the country would be in economic ruins, and there would be a huge divide between the northern and southern states – as was the case during the American Civil War. China will become the new super power: As per her predictions, China is set to become the new superpower in 2018, bringing an end to the United States and its economy. According to her, the exploiters (the developed nations) will become the exploited (the third world). In 2011, the International Monetary Fund had also predicted that China’s economy will overtake that of the US in 2016, emerging as the new superpower. A new money will lead them to power. Bitcoin maybe? |
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Nostradamus Predictions 2017: Is Donald Trump The ‘Third Antichrist’ One quatrain referred to a “false trumpet” and the similarity to Trump’s own name is uncanny. The following lines also point to the change that Trump promised America “The false trumpet concealing madness
will cause Byzantium to change its laws.
From Egypt there will go forth a man who wants
the edict withdrawn, changing money and standards.”
“The false message about the rigged election
to run through the city stopping the broken pact;
voices bought, chapel stained with blood,
the empire contracted to another one.”
“The great shameless, audacious bawler,
He will be elected governor of the army:
The boldness of his contention,
The bridge broken, the city faint from fear.”
Source: http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/real-life/news-life/nostradamus-predictions-2017-donald-trumps-tough-year/news-story/22833cb4b1ce7ede71d4d8c1764167c3 |
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I guess that does not matter again. Whether trustworthy or not, Americans have made their choice and its not Hillary Clinton. Let her enjoy her money and life in peace if at all she is ready not to come back in 2020. Let the Americans now enjoys what they went for but the painful thing is that whether Trump did right or not, it will be enjoyed by Americans and suffered by all Americans and not restricted to all those who voted for him.
The problem is not Hillary herself, but the system that created her, if she is not trustworthy, then it does not matter if she does not become president at some point someone like her will reach power, so something need to be done to prevent people like that to reach power. How do you find a person that has the experience but is not after wealth and power? The job is "leader of the free world" and requires a level of conceit that only attracts untrustworthy monsters. That's why Bernie Sanders was so rare and why he lost. He was overcome by the tactics of the normal untrustworthy monsters that are drawn to the power of POTUS. |
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Microsoft couldn't stop Linux and Micro$oft has a lot more disposable income than most governments do. LOL
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Personally I think those trying to obtain scientific proof of the existence of god are approaching this from the wrong perspective, you believe in god proof or not proof.
What does a person mean when he says he believes or doesn't believe in God? What I mean is, can a person believe in something that he doesn't have any evidence for, at all? For example, what would it mean to believe in the planet Mars? Does it mean that you believe Mars exists? Does it mean you believe in the promise of colonization? Does it mean that if Mars talked to you, you would believe what it said? Make the distinction about believing in God. Believe that He doesn't exist, and ignore the rest about Him. Or... Believe that He exists without knowing it. Or... Know that He exists, and then believe the unproven things about Him. Or... Know that He exists and believe what He tells you in the Bible. Actually, you can clarify this even further if you want. But simply saying that you believe in God, or that you don't believe in God, says very little about what you believe or don't believe. I'm God BADecker. I'm writing it down now so you can see it in print. You don't have to believe in second hand stories written down by third parties and handed down over two thousand years. This is first hand proof straight from the mouth of God. I will answer your prayers as well and as quickly as they have ever been answered. If you refuse to believe that I'm God then I will condem you to an eternity of agony in burning hell fire when you die. Prove that I'm not God! |
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One thing is certain, it's going to be an interesting 4 years.
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But another poster has been recently claiming here that Trump is a downright moron
Which is absolutely not qualified for the task of being the US president. What you are saying is in direct opposition to that claim. In fact, you both seem to dislike Donald as much, but you say diametrically opposite things. As I can see, you feel that Trump is in the same boat with any of those up the Capitol Hill and "fits right in". I basically agree with your point, but Trump has opposed himself to at least some part of the establishment, the part which ruled the Hill, and he has to fight them now. It looks like he (or they, or they all) burned all the bridges. And to successfully fight them, he should have support somewhere, and that could be "we, the American people", so he might in fact have been quite honest in his words when he said that the power is now in the hands of the people. It was a top-notch demagoguery, of course (he must be believing in it himself), but deep down, it may still be true despite all this populist rhetoric
The difference I see between someone that believes Trump is a moron is they are listening to what he says. Someone that believes Trump will be another crooked politician and bad for the country is looking at what he's done in the past. Past actions are the easiest way to determine the character of an individual. Trump is clearly a sexist, inexperienced, bigoted monster of a criminal individual, that clearly does not care about the welfare of the working class (or his employees) or the rights of what he calls "poor people". How does that differ from all of the other candidates? I'm not sure that he is very different at all from career politicians with the exception of his lack of political experience. PACs corrupt politicians at a staggering rate. Politicians feel they are above the law (look up Bill Clinton frequent flyer on pedophile plane). Politicians are power hungry warmongers (look up Clinton Benghazi or Obama drone strikes). Politicians are sexist woman abusers (look up congressmen caught with prostitutes and Monica Lewinsky). Congressmen make deals that insert bad legislation and harmful legislation as riders on bills to appease their donors. There are so many evils performed in Washington they are too numerous to list. Is Trump worse than a career politician? I don't see how he could be worse if he tried. Does that mean I want him as president? No. Americas only saving grace will be Trumps propensity to speak before he thinks. He has alienated so many career politicians in Washington that he will sit for four years and get nothing done. That's a good thing. But this is exactly what I'm talking about Are these so many career politicians in Washington any better than Trump? Obviously, not, as you yourself seem to think. They are as crooked as any other politicians out there. In fact, they might be even more crooked or by far more crooked since "power corrupts while absolute power corrupts absolutely" (by Baron Acton). Needless to say that those in Washington have sort of absolute power. Trump is set to fight them all. And if he kicks them out (or down, I don't care), could we thus claim that there will be less corruption overall even if he himself is as corrupted? *snip img* A new broom sweeps clean Yes, that's what I mean too, except I think he's going to cost the American people a large chunk of money. He signed an executive order to stop entrants from countries that aren't on his friends (business associates) list. That order will be contested in court and fail (and already has been partially overturned) while the battles cost taxpayers money and piss off countries that already want America destroyed. Maybe he doesn't know there are other ways to enter the country that are all but impossible to detect or maybe he's too inexperienced to realize that won't work. A career politician wouldn't bother. I don't think his corruption or self serving motivations will be allowed to take hold because he is an outsider. The republican congress is never going to rubber stamp the things he wants because they do want their jobs in four years. He'll never get a democrat to vote for anything he wants that's against their constituents wishes because they want their jobs in four years and know democrats will be in control again at the midterm elections (in two years). We've been talking so far about the radical stuff but the presidency is a job. It's a boring, tedious, hair pulling nightmare of a job that turns a mans hair gray after two years in office. A career politician is better suited to perform the tedious job of being POTUS. The president works on the national budget (very different from company budgets), he's a daily crisis manager, he acts as a symbol and administrator, he is responsible for smooth negotiations with other nations (which Trump has already failed miserably at), appoints ambassadors, serves as the Commander in Chief of the armed forces, negotiates treaties and must review and sign all new legislation. President is a job that Donald Trump is simply unqualified to perform. Good intentions won't change that. That's the joke of asking what Trump will do for Bitcoin. He's going to remain so overwhelmed that something as inconsequential as bitcoin will never even cross his mind. Someone better take responsibility for spoon feeding him or he may forget to eat everyday. I will stand amazed if Trump isn't either assassinated or impeached within the next four years. He pissed off the CIA for christs sake. I wonder if he knows what the CIA does for a living? LOL |
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Bitcoin is a lubricant for crime like alcohol is a lubricant for sex.
You can get her to say yes without it but alcohol makes it so much easier.
You can commit online crimes without bitcoin but it makes it so much easier.
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Just the opposite OP it facilitates crime. Have you ever heard of Silk Road?
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Trump supports the American worker:
An investigation by USA Today has found that more than 3,500 lawsuits have been filed against Donald Trump and his business entities over the past 30 years. According to the paper, hundreds of former employees and contractors have accused Trump and his businesses of failing to pay them for their work. Victims have included a dishwasher in Florida, a glass company in New Jersey, a carpet company, a plumber, 48 waiters, dozens of bartenders at his resorts and clubs, and even several law firms that once represented him in these labor lawsuits. According to U.S. Department of Labor data, Trump’s companies have also been cited for 24 violations of the Fair Labor Standards Act since 2005 for failing to pay overtime or minimum wage I have just one question, why is he not in jail already? Other than that, it strongly reminds me the tragic history of Michael Jackson who was accused in child sexual abuse many times by those who were just wanting his money, not justice (provided there was any case for it). Obviously, Trump is not Jackson, and he can't be bullied in this way. When someone becomes a celebrity (or a president of the US), there are always a lot of women claiming that they had a baby with that person or that they were raped by him and similar things. I don't say that Donald is an angel, and some of these stories might in fact be true after all, but why everyone and his grandma started talking about them only now? You're comparing apples and oranges. Civil and criminal cases are handled differently. Michael Jackson was a sick, twisted pervert who's mind was destroyed by his ruthless, money grubbing father - criminal case. Donald Trump was the executive in charge of businesses that brutalized other businesses and his companies employees - civil case. In criminal cases the individual is held ultimately responsible because they performed the action in question but they can sometimes get out of incarceration with a civil settlement. In purely civil business cases the company is held responsible and on rare occasions the executive is punished but the punishment is seldom incarceration, it's usually monetary. In both civil and criminal cases protracted appeals and continued litigation can "wear down" the opponent and cost them more money fighting than they stand to gain from the continued battle. Welcome to the worst failure of the American legal system - the system itself. Funny, You had no issue with Obama ties with the Chicago Mob. https://nalert.blogspot.com/2008/01/political-corruption-behind-barack_06.htmlor The Clintons selling US Trade secrets to China for Campaign contributions. Or the Fact that Bill Clinton was a serial Rapist. You have a very selective set of morals there. I have a problem with all politicians. |
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In other words, it was actually a wise business approach, right? I mean destroying the businesses of his competitors. Somehow, I'm not surprised, and this only further confirms my inclination to think that Donald is a ruthless shark of capitalism unlike socialist Obama. What do you think would be better for America overall? Regarding criminal vs civil cases, aren't tax evasion should be considered a civil case too? But more than enough famous people from Al Capone to Wesley Snipes got behind the bars for tax evasion Half knowledge is always dangerous.I would argue over the topic but it will derail the cause this thread was made for.In short,I hate trump and he wouldn't do any good for bitcoin or the humanity If you refer to MJ, then let's leave him alone (let him rest in peace). If you mean Trump, then knowing him better might well help understand his possible actions toward Bitcoin in the future. What this topic is basically about I've met many Americans and must say they usually appear as honest hardworking people with decent values. I've met dozens of politicians and even worked for one as a college intern. Politicians are ruthless, self serving monsters that will do anything to ensure their own survival. What would be better for America? Trump would be horrible for the American people because they are a minor annoyance in his path to personal success. Trump is perfect for American politics because he is no worse than all of the other scumbags on capital hill and will fit right in But another poster has been recently claiming here that Trump is a downright moron Which is absolutely not qualified for the task of being the US president. What you are saying is in direct opposition to that claim. In fact, you both seem to dislike Donald as much, but you say diametrically opposite things. As I can see, you feel that Trump is in the same boat with any of those up the Capitol Hill and "fits right in". I basically agree with your point, but Trump has opposed himself to at least some part of the establishment, the part which ruled the Hill, and he has to fight them now. It looks like he (or they, or they all) burned all the bridges. And to successfully fight them, he should have support somewhere, and that could be "we, the American people", so he might in fact have been quite honest in his words when he said that the power is now in the hands of the people. It was a top-notch demagoguery, of course (he must be believing in it himself), but deep down, it may still be true despite all this populist rhetoric The difference I see between someone that believes Trump is a moron is they are listening to what he says. Someone that believes Trump will be another crooked politician and bad for the country is looking at what he's done in the past. Past actions are the easiest way to determine the character of an individual. Trump is clearly a sexist, inexperienced, bigoted monster of a criminal individual, that clearly does not care about the welfare of the working class (or his employees) or the rights of what he calls "poor people". How does that differ from all of the other candidates? I'm not sure that he is very different at all from career politicians with the exception of his lack of political experience. PACs corrupt politicians at a staggering rate. Politicians feel they are above the law (look up Bill Clinton frequent flyer on pedophile plane). Politicians are power hungry warmongers (look up Clinton Benghazi or Obama drone strikes). Politicians are sexist woman abusers (look up congressmen caught with prostitutes and Monica Lewinsky). Congressmen make deals that insert bad legislation and harmful legislation as riders on bills to appease their donors. There are so many evils performed in Washington they are too numerous to list. Is Trump worse than a career politician? I don't see how he could be worse if he tried. Does that mean I want him as president? No. Americas only saving grace will be Trumps propensity to speak before he thinks. He has alienated so many career politicians in Washington that he will sit for four years and get nothing done. That's a good thing. |
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