As a newbie and given that in my world for the past 20 years I have always been considered a very computer literate guy just to find out I'm handicapped compared to everyone here I would say one major core competency to try and improve on to bring in more miners, buyers and users is to have the most streanlined and easy to use wallet, client and mining program.  That stuff is so complicated for any new person interested in digital coins that most will give up in the first 72 hours.

Devcoin can be the first digital coin to make it all easy.  And that's where finding very affordable Eastern European programmers who know what they're doing to do some serious work on whatever needs tweaking can really come in handy.  Like the bounty twobits put up yesterday and I matched and I think fuzzybear also upped by 125,000 devcoins, if we can get a few more guys donating what they can we can have the first wallet which can't be accidentally erased (like I did).  It's things like this but especially ease of use, to make it so easy to understand and use that any monkey can do it, which is about 80% of people around the world.  

This would be on top of my priority lists because as many more millions of people find out about crypto currencies they'll start surfing and they'll try to download various wallets and mining programs and the ones which are the easiest to use and understand those will become their favorite ones and they will be bound to stick to that because it's a human flaw to not want to change.  It's a race for loyalty right now and it's going to really heat up as dozens of other coins start to hit the market soon and some will have big money, great ads, pro designs, and probably much easier to use software and those are the kinds of coins that will simply take over this entire new cryptostock market.  Devcoin has a head start so let's focus on the very top core competencies and what will most likely take devcoin one step ahead of everyone and keep it there when the competition really heats up.

And that's where I think ease of use will be one really major competitive advantage and selling point.

And does anybody know if patents can be obtained on some of these things.  That's how competitive advantages are held on to for 17 some years.

Is this really necessary at this stage of limited resources along with a very low and dropping devcoin price?  I'm saying, our energies might be better spent on getting the word out to these various countries but as far as original content, if you're manually translating someone else's work it takes time as you're bound to run into issues and have to constantly communicate with the original author to make sure you get the correct meaning and other types of inefficiencies.  

Let's keep in mind that with each passing month devcoin dumps 180,000,000 more coins on the market - directly or indirectly regardless of how many shares are earned or not.  We need to reach an inflection point as soon as possible where devcoin is seeing some reasonable revenues to at least combat the constant dilution by spending some of those revenues buying devcoins off the market and retiring them.  

In order to do that the current plan is perfect.  We have various individuals good at their respective given admin jobs and that should be the major focus.  While it is a great plan to get devcoin's user base as far and as deep around the world, manually translating what will in no time be hundreds of articles would be a huge drain on resources and to pay 2 people shares for the same article is also going to be a drag on efficiencies.

As for translating from English to other languages, if it's your own article and you don't mind putting the effort in it then I guesss that's up to each person.  But form being in Europe a few times over the last few years what I saw is that most people use things like google translate and although it's not perfect, it's very satisfactory for them.  And let's also keep in mind that many many million so people worldwide already speak decent to fluent English so any one English article's audience go far beyond the 300 Million potential American audience.  It's easily over 1 billion given entire continents such as Africa, Europe and a considerable Asian countries speak English very well.  

That's my 2 cents and I know, another big post but I really had to hit on each point and explain based on my first hand experience as a foreigner and living abroad in various European countries for quite a while.  FOCUS.  When resouces are scarce as they are now then Focus is key, that and sticking to our key competencies.  

Devcoin is the first and so far by far the leader in what will soon be a new market for half currency and half stocks.  Which is why last night I took the liberty of buying all the CryptoStocks websites.  the .com one  was taken but I got the rest as well as the crypto-stocks as I really belive this model which devcoin has pioneered will be the next phase for all these coins looking to add some legitimacy to their name and coins to add a hard base, support under their otherwise worthless virtual coins.

Thanks a lot bro, nobody has mentioned these and I've been asking for an entire month for any alternatives. 

Can you give me some person info so I can see if it's worth it.  They're saying they cost about $350 PER lancelot piece.  that's for 400MH.  Butterfly Labs sells a 5GH unit for $278 ( I have 3 on order) which (each one) is nearly 12 times more powerful than 1 $350 Lancelot and reviewers say the asic chips can be overclocked as they're now coming underclocked to reduce energy usage which I don't care about or they're saying instead of 1 ASIC chip which can do the 5GH job with easy, to cut down on energy consumption they're instead going t put 2 asic chips in each unit but way underclock them so then by overcloking these 5GH butterfly units you can easily get double or more than the adversized speeds.  But I'm not sure I have the skills to overclock, but if possible I would definitely pay someone to do it for me.

Of course the HUGE problem is who knows how long before Butterfly actually ships but when they do there's gonna be hundreds of thousands of asics machines on the market all at once so the bitcoin difficulty will go much higher (double to triple) so if you're getting .30 right now per day that's about $1200 per month in just BTC which is not bad but with but that can get cut in half or worse in a matter of a few months.

Now it may be that with a double in Difficulty (which is the minimum I'm expecting) the price per coin may also go up to also double or maybe more, but that's no guarantee which would mean your earnings could get cut in half which, after energy costs, it would suck.  Honestly, as real hype picks up and massive asics machines start mining I can see bitcoins going to some ridiculous level which would then also bring up all of the other coins with it.  And the best ones out there are the ones you're holding.  So smart move to hold on to them.

So now the big questions.  You have 20 lancelots - how much is your electric bill per month?  So you really paid $7,000 for 20 units?  Wow man, that's crazy but I guess if you bought them a few months ago you're close to getting your money back.  Good for you.

But with asics so close to or already hitting the market (Avalon, Butterfly, Cryonic, etc) I'd be really worried to order now and not even get them until june or july which is when Butterfly promises to ship mine but that's not for sure. 

Finally, about how many actual coins of IXcoins, Devcoins (after you pay the mandatory 90% fee for devcoin to the developers), and Namecoins do you get per month on top of your bitcoins.  Cause those are the top coins I'm accumulating so if those are being mined in any meaningful number, not dollar value, but just amount of coins, that may be worth it later on as I expect all of these coins to go up considerably.  So if you could give me a ballpark figure how much 20 lancelot units mine of the latter 3 coins in total coin amounts per month that would really help me make a decision, cause, like you, I wouldn't sell them either but rather hold on to them for later on.  $7,000 is way out of my affordability right now but I may bee able to start with 5 or 10.  Thanks for you help.

Vlad

You say you merge mine but then say you can use mine but you only get BTC and then that you keep dvc, ixc and nmc.  I think it's a good idea to keep the latter 3 as they'll probably go up.  But using your pool, do you get all 4 or not?

Also, what is the 20 lancelot you're talking about.  8GH is not bad at all I'm just wondering what it is, how much it costs and how much Watts is draws down.  Thanks.

It's that easy?  Don't I have to run 4 different mining software (clients)?  That's the complicated part.  I wish someone would just make like 1 miner for all 4.

And what is 20 Lancelot?  Also, what coins do you find in any given month, I'd like to see the cost benefit to your 20 lancelots?  Like how many bitcoins, devcoins, ixcoins, namecoins, etc.  thanks again.

Cause until my ASICS gets here I'd like to get something running but the $1700 computer I bought with 2 ATI 7850's was worthless.  I'm trying to find a better solution but besides ASICS I can't find one.

That's great.  I'm now signed with give-me-ltc.  But I don't think you can merge mine there.  What's the easiest one to use (merge miner).  I'm not very computer literate.  I hope to get my ASIC miners from butterfly by July, that's what they promised but I'm not holding my breath.  I just ordered my 3rd one, 5Gh miner.  I heard you can over clock it to 10GH but that might take a while to so cause I wouldn't wanna try to so it myself.  But for now I'd be happy worth just 2 if not 3 5GH butterfly rigs. Once these rigs hit the market the difficulty is gonna double or triple overnight but the price of bitcoin should also increase.

Can I ask, what rig are you using and what all coins are you getting per month.  TIA

Ahahhahahaaa.

You got some balls dude.  C'est la vie!  lol,  like I predicted,  Don King 2.0.  Great effor dude.  I would have never even thought to do that.  That's great. 

Thanks, that worked.  I left a few posts trying to get an idea what they're doing and where most are located.  in eruoped most are all over western Europe, they still can't easily get a visa for the US.  Very diffilut indeed but definitely a pool of talented programmers and hackers.  I read somewhere that companies like FAcebook go after hackers first before your normal programmer graduate.  They place high value on hackers for their guts and creativity.  And Romania sure has tons of those.

Sunt Român dar traiesc in America foarte mult timp dar vizitez România destul de des.

Problema cu mining este că acuma iti trebuie un ASIC rig care costă foarte mult si ea mult timp sa îl iei delivered.

Alta chestie, poți sa mine cu GPU dar iară costă foarte mult si consuma mult current și In Romania curentul este dublu ca aici in America și salariile in Romania sunt la o zecime.  So fară un asic calculator (miner) puteți sa vă gândiți că o sa platiti facture in jur de $250 pe luna si cu GPU or CPU nu o sa gasiti mulți coins (bani digitali).

So sunt curious cum o sa faceți mining in Romania.  merci.

Ciao,

Vlad

Edit:  Lol, who started this thread?  Finshaggy?  Lol, great idea.  Let me fix the grammatical errors up top then let's get rockin' my Romanian hacker brothers.  Ha!


Also, eu sunt din Turnu Severin.  Mai este vre unul din voi de acolo?  Am fost în vizitâ de-abia acuma 4 luni.  Scuzați gramatica dar am plecat din România la o vârstă mică și niciodată nu am mai folosit limba română.  

Ați venit la locul potrivit, Devcoin o să crască foarte repede și nu este prea târziu.

Dacă vreunul din voi este hacker (bun) sau programer să îmi spuneți că se oferă coins și bounties pentru joburi făcute dacă știi să scri code.

Multă baftă, Române!

How do you do that.   I'm hoping to get my butterfly asic miners will I be able to merge mine with those units?  I mean they say they're only made to mine bitcoin but that would be a blow I want to mine especially NMC, DVC and IXC.  I really hope there's an easy interface to bulk mine all of these with an ASIC machine cause GPU's don't do jack.  TIA

But I agree, IXcoin is out of favor, not dead.  It's being merge mined and it will find a new following soon given the low number of coins.  and yes that matter cause once interest picks up there only going to be a very limited number of coins and just right now their fair value compared to Bitcoin and many other alt currencies is at leat $1.50.  That's a huge 150 fold, 15,000% spike in Apreciation and it could happen in under 30 days like it did with Namecoin.  I just hope these asic machines can be hacked to be able to merge mine, at least.   TIA

Nu inteleg subiectul de la thread-ul asta.

Childboards?

Se tranzleaza ca borduri de chat pentru copii.  Nu inteleg.  Incercam sa invitam copii, like copii de 8 ani?  Pentru ca asta este tranzlaltia.  Care este scopul sau cumva cresesc eu cumva. Eu am crezut a incercam sa atragem programmers si hackes talentats.

Cati aici sunt Romani in Romania si cati sunt stabiliti in alte Tari, Romania inclusive si cati aveti vize sau pasapoarte sa puteti veni in America?

Sa va spun ceva - asta este ceva nou cu crypto coins, o sa expoldeze, prima data in America si pe urma in Europa si pe urma in tot globul dar devcoin este limitat cu fonduri acuma so ei au nevoie de talent si o sa va plateasca bounties nu o sa fie cine stie dar pentry Romania daca poti sa faci $500 pe luna lucrand part-time si facand ceva care iti place nu este un rau inceput. 

Si daca pastrezi devcoins care ii primesti cum fac eu sar putea sa aiba mai multa valoare in viitor pentry ca acuma foarte putini, 1%, americani cunosc ce se intampla si cand o sa stie mai multi o sa fuga sa cumpere coins cum sa intamplat cu bitcoin care a mers la $266 si acuma sa stabilizat la $120.  Multa bafta la voi toti.

Ciao,

Vlad

Cyrus, tu esti in Romania?  Eu sunt in SUA dar incerc sa vin in Romania cateodata sa vizitez familia.  Am fost acolo acuma 3 luni.  Pacat ca nu am stiut despre bitcointalk saw devcoin or even bitcoin atunci ca am intalnit un hacker bun care puteam sa-l fi angajat ca dupa cate vad eu devcoin, ca toate digital coins, au nevoie de programmers foarte buni sa ajute cu coding pentru wallets my bune si miner programs mai bune, si design, etc.

Foarte mult talent in Romania fara joburi.  Pacat ca nu am stiut mai demult.

Vad ca majoritatea de voturi sunt in Buchuresti dar unde este majoritatea de talent?  Bucuresti este cam departe de multi oameni in Romania si pentru ca multi programmers si Hackers talentati sunt copii de varsta 15 pana la poate 21, multi o sa aiba un budget foarte mic pentru ca multi nu au joburi.

Pentru asta poate o locatie mai central like in timisioara ar fi mai bine sa atragem cel mai multi programmers si hackers talentati.


Cyrus, tu esti roman?  Bine sa te cunosc.  Cat timp esti pe bitcointalk.org?  Ce faci sa "earn" devcoins?  Eu am inceput sa scriu acuma vreo doua saptamani.  Acuma sa vad daca o sa plateasca.  Multi din familia mea cred ca nu o sa vad nici un ban.  Lol, o sa vedem incurand.

Multa bafta.

Ciao,

Vlad din Severin/SUA

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That wasn't a room site.  It was a site about why bbq coin took off and what makes it so special.  I just checked and posted but not a work about romos. 

I don't think bbq started as a joke, jke coin (sic?) started as joke and actually gained traction.


bbq started normal but I think it was killed by 51% attacks and almost died and went into obscurity but then came back to life.  But that's from memory so maybe someone can back that up or correct me.  TIA

I'm fluent Romanian and Romania is in the EU and they have about 20 million citiziens which for a europen country is in the top 5 or so and most are computer literate. Like more than me literate.  I can see if I can spread the word on some popular Romanian sites.  Like evz.ro and others which many read in the us and over there.  there's millions of Romanians in America and in countries like Italy, spain and france.  Many are little gangasters but they're still on computers a lot.

Your logo was cool but I too didn't get the last 3 letter, the ORG, Because there's no R Which I could see.  Other than that its great.




Edit:  It's now officially Sabbath. Shabbat Shalom and good night. See you guys on Sunday.