It was obvious. Last year it was sold at 2000 ETH / 1 BTC.
Well, back then the scene was different, now we have working software - back then we had only promises. Edit: *Seemingly working software* I should say. True. But it's still going down. What does that tell you? |
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what a bunch of whiners you all have become LOL  This is true. So many whiners in these parts. |
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Buterin is well meaning. It isn't like he planned to scam people from the beginning. And wtf are you trying to do by opening this thread. Edit: Oh and sock puppets coming up...  I'm just trying to figure out how people are going to rationalize this. What are they going to say? Oh, Vitalik has this enormous brain so he's allowed to do this, he only did it once after all (that we know of). Bob, on the other hand, has a much smaller brain, therefore he's not allowed to make money. Nah. It just didn't work out for him. But it's still too early to say really. Ethereum could still succeed, you know.. I think he just bit a whole lot more than he can chew. But he'll figure it out. He needs to be strong in mind from here on. |
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Buterin is well meaning. It isn't like he planned to scam people from the beginning. And wtf are you trying to do by opening this thread. Edit: Oh and sock puppets coming up... Edit 2: And the same can be and have been said to the other devs behind the other crypto 2.0 projects. But some of them aren't 'scams'. |
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I think there is evidence that ryans group owns the supply for all of the coins in the market right now
How do we feel about this and how will we drive these manipulators out of the market FOR GOOD
Where did you hear about this and where is the evidence? |
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And I hope Ethereum succeeds though, for Augur's sake. I am looking forward to Augur's release hopefully before the US presidential elections. That market should be fun.  |
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@spartacus
So what.. You 'judge' it as a failure...? Already? With the money thing, yeah.. Some money (maybe) has been squandered. But they can't give up this early in the game. But I fear for Buterin. That blog shows how weak willed and weak minded he is in the face of adversity. A lot of people are depending on him. So he shouldn't be writing such blogs.
I don't think it's weakness, I think he's just an honest dude that had to make some decisions counter to his ethics and felt compelled to be transparent. I genuinely think this cat wants to change the world, but reality hit him in the mouth. He's not a cut throat businessman, he's a scientist and philosopher. I hope hope his message instills confidence in the ethereum project and its value will steadily grow. I agree. But on the contrary his blog, however well meaning, had the opposite effect in people's confidence in Ethereum. You ever notice why Forbes 500 companies hire PR people to figure out what to say to the public and are never ever fully transparent? Yes, to maintain its companies' share prices preventing them from crashing. It's a school boy error on Buterin's part. Flowery words of optimism despite this small 'blip' is the order of the day (<-- yes calling it a small blip would be a lie, but he should for the sake of the project). |
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@spartacus
So what.. You 'judge' it as a failure...? Already? With the money thing, yeah.. Some money (maybe) has been squandered. But they can't give up this early in the game. But I fear for Buterin. That blog shows how weak willed and weak minded he is in the face of adversity. A lot of people are depending on him. So he shouldn't be writing such blogs.
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tokeweed, there was only one altcoin exchange when I started calculating the ALT19 Index.
Well that ain't the case now, ain't it? edit: I was gonna take the index seriously. And I think it's a great idea (if the people who ran the exchanges created it). But when I saw you calling them 'blue chips', I thought it was some kind of a joke. It's more like 'blue cheaps', really. |
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Something akin to the start-up woes. Read the blog. It's good to express yourself and to keep it real but that blog didn't really give people confidence in Ethereum.
Buterin, it's nice to have some of the load carried by the community but this is all you buddy boy. You started this and you are going to finish it for better or worse. That blog is showing that the pressure is taking a toll on you. You are the leader, the Big Kahuna... So don't show it. Be strong, work hard and keep developing. Things will fall into place and everything is going to be A-Ok.
Peace.
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It is natual for their price to fluctuate a lot in crypto world.If they keep developing, they would bounce back.
Maybe. But then again maybe not. Think about it... |
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Sometimes crypto makes me just go "wtf ? " Ethereum announces that they've nearly run out of cash, won't be able to finish the project.......and the price goes up. Nxt rolls out a major project in Greece with few hitches, and has a great conference presence in Rotterdam with loads of good PR......the price drops.  I'll be over here, banging my head against the wall for a while............ 
Didn't it occur to you that maybe no one's interested in NXT despite all the "good news"? No offense, but how else can you explain it? Maybe the people behind NXT needs to do a better job to get the word out. And by word out I mean not here in this forum. |
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I like it that you're creating an index, OP but calling those coins as "blue chips" is just stupid. All of them are under 500m usd in market capitalization ffs.
But if there's another crypto at say 50 usd per coin, then that's a 'blue chip'.
tokeweed, of course they are not 'blue chips' like Apple or Google shares. Apple market cap is higher than $600B. BTC market cap? We have a very small market these days. "As befits the sometimes high-risk nature of stock picking, 'blue chip' derives from poker. The simplest sets of poker betting discs include white, red, and blue chips, with tradition dictating that the blues are highest in value. If a white chip is worth $1, a red is usually worth $5, and a blue $25".So it is relative. $25 is less than $500 mln. Still it is a blue chip If you have other candidates, please point them. I get what you're doing. But please call it something else. Because they are far far away from being in the same vicinity of a blue chip. It sounds like a joke tbh. No offense. And plus who made you the 'man' to decide all this. Shouldn't all the exchanges be the ones to get to decide? Even if it's unofficial...? |
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I like it that you're creating an index, OP but calling those coins as "blue chips" is just stupid. All of them are under 500m usd in market capitalization ffs.
But if there's another crypto at say 50 usd per coin, then that's a 'blue chip'.
tokeweed, of course they are not 'blue chips' like Apple or Google shares. Apple market cap is higher than $600B. BTC market cap? We have a very small market these days. "As befits the sometimes high-risk nature of stock picking, 'blue chip' derives from poker. The simplest sets of poker betting discs include white, red, and blue chips, with tradition dictating that the blues are highest in value. If a white chip is worth $1, a red is usually worth $5, and a blue $25".So it is relative. $25 is less than $500 mln. Still it is a blue chip If you have other candidates, please point them. I get what you're doing. But please call it something else. Because they are far far away from being in the same vicinity of a blue chip. It sounds like a joke tbh. No offense. |
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Er...you guys look like you're talking at cross purposes: bitcoinsatan is talking about Marc de M, and troleybus is on about Max Keiser. I was talking about Max Keiser since my first post here. He quoted me. I never talk about Marc De Mesel. I'm sure he deserved that Lambo, too. I wish him good luck. I always like people who get in early and make money. He's a trust fund baby. He inherited his wealth. Edit: Again, yes I'm jelly. |
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Funny... A lot of people made profit during that time too. One man's loss is the other man's again. Funny. I'll explain it like you are 5. Made profits and burned in Keiser's suggestions are different things. People who listened this guy lost btc. People made their own decisions and played with other altcoins profited. This is my last message here. Don't trust this guy, never listen to him or do the exact opposite what this guy says. Funny. You actually listened to him. Boom! |
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I like it that you're creating an index, OP but calling those coins as "blue chips" is just stupid. All of them are under 500m usd in market capitalization ffs.
But if there's another crypto at say 50 usd per coin, then that's a 'blue chip'.
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Nah man, it's good. Among the scams people could create, it could give the spark to one person to create one really good, brilliant idea that could change everything in crypto.
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Bitshares doesn't count, as its not a fully decentralized transactional system by design The statement above is ironic to me because if you consider DPoS not decentralized, that would mean you also consider PoW and PoS not decentralized, meaning Emunie would be the only decentralized system. Why do I say this? All you need to do is compare the three systems: PoW, PoS, and DPoS (Bitshares) I remember Bytemaster making statement that Bitshares is not decentralized. Has anything changed? This is true. I think he mentioned it at Let's Talk Bitcoin or something... |
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ok...so let me get this straight... you lost money... but it is his fault... and you don't actually know him...
You are another newbie and you don't know what you are talking about. You weren't here when people lost thousands of BTC's in his p&d schemes. You don't know what happened in 2013 and 2014. I warn other new users here. Don't ever follow this guy's tips. When he mentions a coin run away fast, if you hold that coin dump it immediately. Funny... A lot of people made profit during that time too. One man's loss is the other man's again. |
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