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1361  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: The House always wins. on: November 05, 2016, 01:09:13 PM
House is not donators, of course they will win in the long term, it is gambling, but a few will win.

Gambling is a paid game means the house has invested to provide these games to enjoy people, and they will have a fee to play and just to keep things more exciting put an option as people can also win money if they are lucky. But if you gamble for longer time surely house is going to win so just gamble when you need fun and if you're lucky surely you will win but never gamble only to win money.
1362  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Anyone ever stop gambling? but then gamble again? on: November 05, 2016, 01:06:48 PM
Me i stop many times but i can't stop myself when i saw some people are betting then winning any amount .that keeps me coming back but i do control my funds and not continue playing when i lose on first enter .if i won i go to second bet if not stop for the mean while.
its really getting harder and harder every time we push our self to stop even in our minds we are still thinking that we have a good assessment with the game and when that particular prediction/strategy works we keep on wanting to play back and try it and another start for us to play again and again.

If you are addicted   on gambling for sure  you would  really have a hard time  to quit    because   its  hard to remove  from  our  minds    on  aiming  profits  and thats the thing  that  you would able to  came back even  more  on playing  gambling. Stopping  for a while would be  only temporary.

I do agree that if you're already addicted then difficult but it is not impossible to come out of gambling. People should decide first then they can find many good ways to come out of it like spend more time in outdoor activities and spend more time with family members and stop totally playing online games for some time the surely one can come out of it after some time.
1363  Economy / Gambling / Re: Hillary vs Trump betting: what are the best sites? on: November 05, 2016, 12:58:01 PM
One book with odds up that isn't mentioned in this thread is Betcoin.ag.

Yeah, I didn't notice and I promote the site myself. I think im going to use that one if I bet but we will see, im still going to wait more, the press is going insane and the info war is going to continue until the last very second. Both parties are going to try to ruin each other's reputation, anything can happen that would change the odds... I will wait as much as possible to make a bet.

I'm not going bet in this election but this is the most exciting election. Both are not showing their strong points to ask people to vote for them instead both looking for each other bad points to expose and get more votes for them. It has become now very difficult to guess the winner in this election.
1364  Economy / Gambling / Re: losing from freebitco.in on: November 05, 2016, 12:55:12 PM
I was active on this site for a while, I didn`t make 50 mbtc from their faucet, it`s more like 5 mbtc, and I lost it also on their auto betting. They have many active users there, I saw thread that someone hit 10 000 on their faucet and get more then 0.3 btc, I still didn`t hear that someone one their lottery, prize is very pretty and it goes to more then 2 btc for first place.
I don`t go there anymore, I saw their new reward system but I can`t say I like it. Good luck to others who think they can make something there, I tried and failed.

Their system is provably fair - as i know. They officilay say that house edge is between 3% and 5%. Everyone can play in other games if he want. Freebitco.in have very good opinion in Bitcoinworld, an till now nobody make any accussatin!
I wonder why they have such a high house edge, just from checking on this forum, I know that a lot of people just never deposit there because of that house edge.

Is it just so they can fund the people playing with the faucet claims, because advertising on their site doesn't bring in enough?

In any case, I think a site like Crypto-Games does it better, they have a much bigger faucet claim (plus the ability to level up), no advertising and a really low house edge under 1%

They don't want people to deposit money to their site as long as people who claim their money and lose back to the site then they will have a good profit at the end. They should be making a good profit from lottery system and with this game. If you want to gamble then should look for the site specially designed for gambling.
1365  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Cricket match prediction discussions on: November 05, 2016, 12:50:51 PM
South Africa is building a very strong lead and have already reached a lead of 279 runs,Elgar and JP Duminy scored centuries and it looks like they are going to win this one.

A lot of surprises in this match. Initially, we all thought, Australia is going to win after seeing their first wicket partnership, but suddenly they collapse very badly in the first innings. Now South Africa leading by 388 runs and still four wickets are remaining in this second innings. Hope they may add another 50 to 100 runs to this total and 450+ score will be good total defend in the second innings. It looks SA got now chance to win this match.
1366  Economy / Gambling / Re: New in Gambling, Need Help! on: November 05, 2016, 12:45:52 PM
You can try your luck on sports betting because its easy to predict than the other games .. and follow tips from this section you can find some thread tips for betting.. and if you want to play with skill base game poker is the best but it needs skills and luck to be able to make a good profit..

I don't suggest to follow someone tips to bet in gambling because if you lose then, you will be cursing those people. No one can predict 100% accurately always because if they can do it then they won't give tips instead they will bet and keep the profit for themselves. Any kind of gambling whether it is skill based or not still one need some kind of luck to make money from gambling, so just gamble only for fun and not to make money from it.
1367  Economy / Gambling / Re: Investing in btc casinos on: November 05, 2016, 12:41:33 PM
~snip~

Dont panic when some high-roller arrives to bet. They will lose sooner or later and you will receive the profit.
you sure? How if they are won a lot of money? Not all of high roller are lossing, we already know too if there are a lot of high roller who playing in Betking and they are profited a lot too One of example

You don't know the same guy might be gambling with another account and he might have lost some money because when you win big money so fast in short time then people can't control them without gambling again. Because their mind will be thinking to go and make more profit and in the end mostly they will lose back to the house. If you can't take these risks then these investments are not for you.
1368  Economy / Gambling / Re: BetKing.io - NEW DESIGN! Most trusted and popular crowdfunded Bitcoin Dice site on: November 05, 2016, 12:39:39 PM
Reduced investor risk to 3x now. Still 185 Bitcoin max payout per bet!

May i ask why?
if someone really got lucky (let say he won a lot from a bet (hittted max profit)) and investors set to max kelly/risk before that win, all of investors would be crying (maybe), their investment will reduced a lot. i think that's why the owner reduce the risk.

Gambling investments are high-risk investments, if anyone worries about losing their investments then they should invest in these casino investments. But you should remember that in the long run gambling house is going to win money for sure. So you should have a patience to wait and watch and fix some target for the loss and if your reach that limit then withdraw your deposit and look for some other good site.
1369  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Learn how to gamble on: November 04, 2016, 02:23:07 AM
I suggest if you don't know betting or gambling then consider your lucky and don't go for it because you may start it for fun purpose but at the end, you may or may not addict to these games. If you addict to these games, then you will lose a lot of money. if you can, it is better to avoid it and find some other fun activities to spend your free time.
1370  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Everyone looses in the long run on: November 04, 2016, 02:20:29 AM
It's very simple to know why we lost in long term because when we start playing for long time and stick all the time around gambling site. Than there is more big chance to lose all the amount to the house.
Yes ,the more longer we play the more we lose thats the truth ,others won't recognize it because some of them are too greedy to make a profit even though they lose big amounts .If you are a gamer to have fun only you will just ignore your losses whatever it is even we turn around gambling house is the earner and the gamblers are the most who lossing money.

Those greedy people want free money and don't want to work hard, so they will keep on try their luck in gambling even though they are losing money in gambling. For such kind of people, it is hard to come out of this habit. In gambling winning chances are very very less compared to a gambling house in the long run. So just gamble only for fun and entertainment.
1371  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to stay away from gambling? suggestions ? on: November 04, 2016, 02:17:01 AM
From my point of view gambling is very attractive than it is natural to lose the control while betting and it create a lot problem. I think if we had something more attractive thing in real life than it would be helpful to find the way to give up.

People want free and quick money, so they will go for gambling but people should first realize that these games are designed to give only entertainment, and we need to spend money to get this entertainment then no one will spend a lot of money in gambling. Once people realize it, then they can mentally prepare to come out of this habit and can find many other ways to keep them busy in their free time instead of gambling.
1372  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you believe that win in gambling is depending on your luck ? on: November 04, 2016, 02:13:08 AM
I don't believe in luck, you can't just say "I'm lucky and I have 100% chance to win next roll", it doesn't work like that. Luck is always retrospective, you can say that you were lucky or unlucky before, but there no way to predict your future outcomes in gambling.

You can't say lucky or not in advance but only after winning something you can say you were lucky. If you can predict whether your lucky or not in advance then you will be a fortune teller. But in gambling you must be a lucky on any given day to win money from gambling. Otherwise, you will mostly lose all your money. No strategy or any methods will not work in the longer term.
1373  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: In Gambling any one got cheated by house? on: November 04, 2016, 02:08:37 AM
Yes, cheaters in casinos are always there. Actually, there are famous house cheaters or players in casinos with the likes of Tommy Glen Carmichael, Richard Marcus, Ron Harris and Read McNeal, Ida Summers etc. If one house will be observant, he will notice that he has been cheated. They are the one misinterpreting the game. Especially on online casinos rigged by their hidden house edge.

This thread is about cheating of casino operators, not players. Currently all big casinos have provably fair system, but there was a thread here when someone had proven that it is possible for a casino to cheat on some provably fair games that utilize card shuffling and be unnoticed.

This kind of cheating will be done by the casino owners who doesn't know how to make profits from maintaining the house profitable by getting more and more users to play on their site. They are a lack of knowledge on marketing, if they do it properly then they can surely make a lot of profit without cheating players.
1374  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Should I invest in bitcoin casinos? on: November 04, 2016, 02:04:14 AM
I always ask my self why trusted casinos never heavily advertise about investing in their site since they have a decent roi rate?

Because they don't have to. Looking for new investors will just lessen their share in the total profit of the website. They're already earning money and they want to keep it to themselves. Most gambling sites also have rich investors right from the start. That's how they have established everything, by getting a help from a rich investor. They don't need to look for some more online because they're website is already well funded.

Then why leave the opportunity to invest if basically everything is established? Smiley

I think that any external investment is good for the casino. Even due to the fact that increases Bankroll - which attracts more players with a bigger wallet.

Since they are already established, so they no need to spend money on advertisements because they know they will be getting investments even without advertisements. It is for cost saving purpose. When you already have sufficient bankroll to maintain the house so they will not spend more money for these advertisements and also they don't stop new investments if they are coming without any advertisements.
1375  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: To Gamble or To Invest? on: November 04, 2016, 01:57:31 AM
If you have good amount of money and want to get some profit using that money then investing is better and only way to go for. Gambling is not good as everyone can not make money from it. Some people can even loose without seeing profit of a penny even. Investing is much better with little risk without doing anything by yourself. It is like money work for you.

You are right, gambling is meant for entertainment, adrenaline and emotions, it can't be a source of profit because it's unpredictable and has negative expected value for a player. There's no easy money anywhere, you need to work if you want to earn for sure.
That's what the gambling sites are trying to tell us. They want us to be entertainment so even if we lose our money we are still gonna be happy and of course when we are willing to lose just to enjoy they are also happy making profit.

It's the system in the gambling world and no one can change that.

No gambling sites are forcing anyone to go and gamble. It up to gamblers whether they want to gamble or not, if you worry about losing or spending money on gambling games then you should avoid the paid games and find some other free games to get your enjoyment. Gambling houses are doing their business to make profits for them but not for gamblers.
1376  Economy / Gambling / Re: Investing in btc casinos on: November 04, 2016, 01:55:10 AM
I think the best invest site will be Betking.Io...why?

You can check here at Dicesites.com.Their profit is better than any other bitcoin dice site who have invest option.Or you could convert your bitcoin to XMR and invest on Safedice.

most of the investment gambling sites are the same, especially the top 10 because as long as they have players playing there you can count on getting profit.

and in case of betking the high profit you see now is because of a one time big lose of a big whale.

If you worry about the whales can win big amount then the best solution is to diversify your funds and put in many good sites then you can reduce this kind of risks. Because big wins will not happen on all sites at a same time and in the longer run, you will be in profits.
1377  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Going all in on a Hillary win bet on: November 04, 2016, 01:48:08 AM
Well even if i would go all inn, odds are 1.30 for Hillary to win, i would end up with 0.01 x 1.30 = 0.013  Cheesy Cheesy

Whether Hillary or Trump but it is not a good idea to go all in and take a lot of risks because in gambling end results are depends on luck and don't how thinks will going change in another five days time. So just bet some portion of your money and rest put it some other place to reduce your risk of losing all your bitcoins one shot.
1378  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Cricket match prediction discussions on: November 04, 2016, 01:44:44 AM
West Indies won by 5 wickets and it deserve for this. Into that match it was brilliant in bowling and batting. But Pakistan turned into bad side very quickly that is very strange to see. Anyway congrats to West Indies on this victory.
Pakistan batsmen do tend to collapse now and then and you should expect that when it comes to Pakistan ,a simple google search would bring more than a dozen matches for example to understand their inconsistency in their performance

Pakistan won so many matches against WI is not because they are very strong team but WI is not performing up to their strength. So Pakistan is lucky to win all the series against WI.

Australia are set to make a big 1st innings total of 500+ runs and if they do they will win this test match. As I have been saying Australia are very hard to beat at home and forget about Australia's past poor performances as they were playing in Sri Lanka where the conditions suited the home team. Both Australia and South Africa are evenly matched in bowling and batting but I give Australia the advantage because they are playing at home and that is why I said they will win this test match and also win the 3 test series. If South Africa have any chance in this 1st test they need to take some early wickets and try and bowl Australia out for under 400 runs.

Somehow SA didn't bat well in the first innings. It was not expected from them but now Australia got a very good chance to win this match if they score more than 500 runs in the first innings.

1379  Economy / Gambling / Re: Investing in btc casinos on: November 03, 2016, 01:52:47 AM

I would rather suggest those investing btc casinos to think many times as they were making loses rather than winning, myself experienced in the first betting it was good but later on the winnings you have, btc casino will get it back as if electronically you lose. I've realized that e have no assurance with casino investments we won't be benifited. Best thing to do is to trade your bitcoin in order to stablish online marketing because there are many ways to earn bitcoin profits.

All investments come with some risks, and one should take risks to grow your money. I don't think investing on good trusted sites is a bad idea, as long as you diversify your funds. Even one or two sites go negative, and your overall investments grow slowly, and it is much better option for the people who don't have a trading skill.
1380  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Cricket match prediction discussions on: November 02, 2016, 03:43:49 AM
Pakistan is really struggling in their second innings,Asad Shafiq bagged a double pair, Holder bowled really well and claimed three wickets and west indies are having the upper hand here to strangle Pakistan , it is very difficult for Pakistan to win from this situation,Srilanka is having a lead of 411 runs and rain has delayed the match and it is looking like a draw if the rain continues.
Yes, Pakistan is in deep trouble now, Brathwaite played superb innings. Pakistan lost 4 wickets just for 84 runs. They lead by 31 runs. Second innings WI bowled superbly especially captain Jason Holder. He picks 3 wickets in that duck out. I think now this match will become interesting let's see who will win any guess?

I would still not bank on a West Indies win. WI have shown flashes of brilliance in the past, only to let us down. Pakistan leads by 31 runs at stumps, and if they can add 150 more runs, West Indies will have a challenging target to chase.
Even i am expecting a total collapse from west indies in the second innings as well as from Zimbabwe because i have waged my bet that the Asian counties will be winning and i do not want to lose my bet  Grin

I feel this match WI may play more sensible cricket and may win this match. But it all depends on how fast they will pick up rest of the Pakistan wickets, If they can manage pickup all Pakistan wickets for another 100 runs then mostly WI will win this match. Let's see how WI bowling will be done today...
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