Can anyone who has been here a while explain this to me?  In stocks there's value based on fundamentals. But since these coins have no business plans and no revenues there's no way to value them so you go off how rare they are, supply and demand model.

Ok then.

So how is feather coin worth $.10, 10 times what ixcoin is selling for, while at thre same time having nearly 15 times as many coins - 380 million to Ixcoin's max 21 million.

So why isn't ixcoin trading at parity with feathercoin which would put it at $1.50? This makes no sense.

Am I missing something here or is this a huge opportunity to buy more IXcoin. I'm now up to 41,000 iXcoin.  I paid about $420 for them.  Roughly 2.5 bitcoins and I see it as less risky since bitcoin's value is enormous given it has no real value, no real business plan and no future earnings.  You'd have to be nuts to buy bitcoin at $120 for any reason other than a short term trade or to buy other coins with it.

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Ahahaaa.  I almost spilled my coffee reading that.

Touche.  The entire stock market is rigged.  Even with all the crazy hacking and Mt. Gox getting raided and the unreal volatility, these digital coins and their exchanges are more fair and easy to predict and make money on than any stock I've ever bought, with a few small exceptions, in my 20 years of investing.

But isn't the wallet.dat file just 1 of the many files in the devcoin client (wallet).  This is why I copied the whole user, I thought there many small files like logs and receivers, etc.  Can you confirm I just find the wallet.dat file and that's it.  1 file?  I can't believe I screwed up such an easy thing.

I don't understand what you're trying to have done but if it can prevent such a thing from happening to someone else I'll match your devcoin bounty, 75,000DVC and 75,000DVC.  I still have some devcoins in my vircurex account and someone could easily lose 10 times what I lost or more.  That's crazy, especially if/when the price of devcoins goes up.

Thanks again.

However,   the seed nodes are gone that are in the ixcoin builds, so you are probably gong to need to find a node to addnode to bootstrap with.

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Man, I wish so much that I knew even as a vague idea what that means.

Maybe this is the problem I was having.  It seemed like all the ixcoin wallets I found people were having a major issue.

But it's good to know about the 32/64 bit.  I downloaded 64bit on both my computers for devcoin and it works fine but I thought maybe there were other problems I wasn't seeing.  Now it makes sense so that's good to know cause I've seen other people on here asking about a 64 bit version.

I guess I'll have to wait for someone to find that node and get the IXwallet working.  For now my IXcoins will be safer at vircurex than here on my computer anyways.

I remember unthinkingbit saying block 95,000 but i'm not 100%.  but then there's like a 1,000 block additional time added on I think during which time you can still keep working and adding value at whatever you do.  The latter part I remember reading on devtome a while back.  So probably between 2.5 and 3.5 weeks time.  good luck.

2 and 3 look the same to me.  I like #1 best cause I can still see the DV and at the same time people associate the equality sign with currency, it's a global thing.

Thanks for doing something different.  Too many people were following the same cue.  I tried to do something different, but I'm not artist and I don't have photoshop so I spent over 1 week working on it but it came out too busy.  I say this is in the top 3, simple but different and clean.  marticps did a good job and this other guy with a coin I saw way back this contest started.  It's probably gonna be between you 3 but the final coin may look like a hybrid which would be the best I think.


Edit:  I see the difference between 2 and 3 now.  I'm still with #1 as people's eyes can see much more than one assumes and the mind more than that.  Advertisers make bank off that principle.  You have to have to leave something for the imagination, don't make it too obvious.

Prime example:  BAIRNWHSAED  


Edit 2:  Dextor, looks like you know photoshop.  Can you try your design in various shapes.  I'm not sure why every single person is using a circle.  Every single digital coin I have seen from every digital coin out there uses a circle.  I don't get it - This doesn't have to be practical, it's never gonna be manufactured and it's never gonna poke you in your pocket....it's Virtual.  So let your imagination run wild.   That's what I tried but I think it ran too wild. 

I'd  love to see what that exact thing (#1) looks like in a V.  Or a shape that resembles a C to get the full DVC.  Mess with it if it doesn't take you long, maybe you'll get something really unique.

good luck!

I think you misunderstood him. he's basically saying there's an arbitrage opportunity if you own bitcoins so why not make some money while removing cheaper devcoins off the market.  It's actually a great idea but I don't have bitcoins.

I noticed it too but by the time I buy bitcoins depending on the price I get and if the ask moves up when I go to sell in USD then I may end up losing money.  I did this with IXcoin because I was trying to buy some but there were no bids while over on the BTC/IXC variation there was huge volume.  But by the time I got done buying and selling I paid an extra 25% for the ixcoins compared to the selling price in USD. 

Still got a great deal but still, this only makes sense if you have a few bitcoins laying around.  And I think that's what finshaggy was trying to say.  The USD price is nearly double compared to the BTC/DEV price. 

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I'm sending 30k your way. Not a ton, but hopefully enough to make this situation less painful. Cheers.
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I see it.  Thanks.  And somebody else sent 100,000 devcoins.  I've got 157,000 now.  That's 157,000 more than I expected to ever recover.  Thanks to everyone who pitched in.  I hope to be able to return the favor one day to someone who's unlucky.  If I had just earned that million coins it wouldn't hurt so badly but I paid .00041 for them and when you spend actual real money then it hurts a bit more.  Thanks again.

I'm looking for an ixcoin wallet but so far I've only found ones that work on 32 bit computers.  nothing that works well on 64bit.  If you know of one I'd greatly appreciate it.  TIA

I had It encrypted.

How do you back up your wallet on a usb stick?  I wanted to do that but I don't know which files to copy - it seems like the wallet has dozens of small files and I don't recognize them all.  That's why I decided to just move my entire user file which wasn't possible.  If I miss just one I'll mess things up again.  And I know, copy don't ever cut.  I didn't know cut was a delete function.

There it is!  I really appreciate it, man.  


Edit:  there's 27,394 now in there.  Anonymous or.....?  Thanks all the same.  I really didn't expect this.  

And if I ever recover the deleted coins I promise to return everyone's coins.  


Edit 2:  Thanks Weisoq...appreciate it.

I didn't try that cause I didn't know where or how to begin.  but now that you gave me a name I'll look into it.  The main reason is that this $400 today may be worth much more next year so I might as well try now.  

This is a good example of what can go wrong with wallets so hopefully new people playing around with their computers will see this and get something out of it.  If this had happened after I got paid there would have been closer to 10 million coins on there as that cold drive was going to be my main holder of my devcoins.  Good lesson to learn on someone else's skin and for $400 instead of $4,000.

Thanks for the advice.  I don't want to take more time from relevant conversations.


And thanks to MarkM, Weisoq, finshaggy and the rest who so willingly offered to help with coins.  Very unexpected.  Thanks a lot.

There's no need to do any of that since this was on my desktop.  Remember a few days ago I loaded a new wallet on there to see why the one on my laptop wasn't working?  And it turned out that the desktop wallet, which was the new client, wasn't working either so then I concluded it was the firewall and it was.  

Well, right after that I decided to transfer some devcoins, 1,000,000 from vircurex to that desktop (it's actually an old dell 1U server) because it has 4 scsi drives and I was planning to use one of them as a cold drive after reading that's what vircurex does to keep hackers from getting to the wallets.  

The problem was this new wallet (with the 1,000,000 in it) was on my C drive so I was at risk everytime I got on the net so I decided to cut the entire user file so I wouldn't make the mistake of transferring just a few files, to the 4th, G drive and that's when I messed up.  So now that wallet is gone and there's a new one running.

But the wallet I gave you is off my laptop and that one is ok.  So nothing has to be done on your end, I was just trying to see if anybody knew an easy way to restore that older wallet but that doesn't look possible.  But thanks for the advice, I hope other newbies can learn from my $400 mistake.

So no worries,  I'm good to go with my old, 1BroUgeCemQvWeYBekpFyEFGZVqrXnrtQ9, wallet number.  Thanks.

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I think you may have wiped out your file past your abilities to recover it if I read what you did accurately.

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I think you are right.  Everything you just said adds up and details exactly what I did.  I'm out a fresh $400.  I should have left It at Vircurex but they got hacked twice in 2 months and I wanted to spread the risk by putting some coins on a cold drive.  Man, this hurts.  Thanks for you input.

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I would check the recycle bin.
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thanks but I didn't delete anything.  I only cut and pasted and what didn't transfer I clicked on skip so it left those files on C and I can see all the receiver files and dat files are still on C.  So it only transferred the bigger files from the devcoin client.  I guess those smaller files were opened even though I closed the client.

That's what i'm thinking but I don't think they're connecting.  

So I tried to copy the wallet.dat file and directly paste it on top of the devcoin client thinking maybe it wasn't finding it and then I get an error saying to change the password to <password> and it gives me a path to follow but when I get to appdata it's not there.  appdata part of the path so I can't get to devcoin to change the password in order to manually add the wallet.dat file.  I think it's all messed up so that's probably why it created a new wallet with different receiver wallet numbers than what I had.





Well, if devcoin ever gets up there in price then it will be worth to hire someone to come in and find it.  cause right now I'm more likely to mess it up worse.

I tried to restore from an earlier session but there are none, I just this old server 2 weeks ago and installed windows 7 pro so there's no back up yet which would have probably worked.

I really need some help.

I had 1,000,000 devcoins on one of my computer's C drives and I wanted to transfer it to a different G drive so I could keep that drive unplugged (hot swappable) just for added security.  So I cut and paste my entire user file from C to G cause I wanted to make sure everything was copied over.

Problem was some files would not transfer saying they were in use even though I closed everything that had to do with devcoin.  some of these files were log files and some dat files.  I think what happed was the wallet.dat file didn't transfer over cause when I tried to pull up the wallet in the G drive my entire 1 million coins were gone.  I paid $400 for these coins 2 weeks ago so this is costing more than that desktop is worth.

so then I realized the mistake I made and saw that the wallet.dat file was still on the C drive because I did NOT delete anything.  So I then copied and pasted everything from G back to C hoping it would just combine everything missing with everything that got left over.  

But no, when I open the devcoin wallet it's a totally new wallet with different address and my previous addresses are gone and so is the 1,000,000 devcoins  

I didn't delete anything so the coins have to be on there somewhere.  Can anybody help me out.  I really don't wanna lose this many coins.  Thanks.

"Success"
"The amount of 100,100.0 DVC was successfully withdrawn."

I totally see what you mean.  I didn't think of that.  The only chat board I've ever been on were stock boards and there was never an edit button and everything moved lightening fast so you have to post fast or your question is never answered and your post is buried.  So I'm used to that and here nobody ever posts so then I end up posting excessively which I hate cause it takes up my time and other people hate cause I'm wasting theirs.

But you're right, I am trolling and spamming.  When my posts and questions (many times unanswered) take up half the board that's a spammer and a troll.  And I ain't never been a troll or a spammer so this bitcointalk blog/site ain't for me.

I don't stay where I don't add value and I don't like wasting my time asking relevant questions which nobody answers and I'm not gonna post just to see people complain.  This site has taken up too much of my productive time anyway, I was just hoping I would learn more here than googling everything but it doesn't look like it. 

Thanks to guys like MarkM, unthinkingbit, fuzzybear and a couple others who have been really helpful but everybody else, I don't know, maybe you guys are never on here or you just come to learn but never to bother answering questions.  Like the new guy today who asked about the new coin.  what a perfect time to tell another guy there's a coin contest.  But instead he was told to shut up and stop spamming with irrelevant newbie questions.  This site is for 5 coin tuff guys not for people who wanna learn.

So I'm out.....

AAAHHHHHH, As for the 100,000 devcoins I promised, looks like finshaggyn can't do it and I'm not gonna spam and troll for 100 more posts and who knows how many days so the one guy who put up his dev wallet, you get the full 100,000 coins.  I never said 100 wallets anyway, I said let's discuss it and we'll set the parameters.  So congrats, I'll hit you up later today with those coins, if there's any issues my email is on my profile.

Good luck to everyone, I think you're all gonna accidentally get rich if you're smart enough to hold on to your coins.

And I hope the next newbies who come through here excited like I was looking to learn and more than happy to post and answer questions and tell people how great and big this thing is gonna be.....well, if I was running this thing those are exactly the kinds of people I'd want.

I hate to say it but this is another long post nobody is gonna read so, lol, so somebody post this part for me - Thanks for everything I've learned over the past week or two and I wish only the best for everyone.  And I'm still gonna be a part of devtome cause they're a top A class crue who wanna attract as many excited people as possible. 

La Revedere!

Vlad

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Please read through what psybits wrote in this thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=129563.msg2156249
If you've done this and the address you've given unthinkingbit still doesn't work, all I can think is that you've written it out wrong. Go into your wallet - right click on the box where your address is (this will highlight it) - copy - paste (ctrl v) this in a msg rather than manually typing it out.

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I tried that.

And tell me this then.

I transferred money from vircurex into my wallet at home and that worked fine.  So why wouldn't the same address same wallet work for devtome?  That makes no sense.