Hello again!

I"ve followed, and tried my poor best to help, Tomcat on Fire and TRDR. He's a good guy and a hell of a worker. If anyone can make this successful, it's him. I'll be investing. Don't know how much, cuz I'z a poor boy, but I trust the dev.

I too was wondering about POS. Not sure if it would fit well with the asset backed plan, but I also am not convinced that it wouldn't.

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And this little piggy went hashing!

I am making the same assertion. "Kill all, Kill all, the Lord will know his own" was a statement by Pope Innocent (!) during the crusades to allow his troops to rape and pillage at will in the "holy" land. Christianity eventually mellowed out, but it was spread by the sword far more than by the evangelist from the time of Constantine at least, and probably earlier. While it started off as a somewhat principled resistance to the Roman occupation of palestine, it degenerated into a huge theocracy which ruled the near east and Europe for several centuries. In the New World, Missionaries paved the way for the Conquistadores. By both plan and misadventure, entire native populations were wiped out by starvation, war and disease. While some of this was inadvertant, a whole lot of it was not. Further, the Church has a long history of executing those who stood against it, even when they did so on religious grounds (Gallileo being a good example, but hardly unique). Also, very recently in the long history of these two monstrous religions, Christianity actively backed dubious dictators, one of which has become the "icon" for evil. While the assertion that Hitler was a Christian is likely false (he was first and foremost an opportunist) what is not false is that he was openly endorsed by the Vatican on several occasions, with the Pope even going so far as to say that he was re-establishing the holy roman empire.

Organizations which claim to have divine power can (in their own eyes or the eyes of their followers) never be wrong. This is the great danger of religion that is based upon deities. They see it as a strength. They have all the answers. Those of us with a more inquisitive mindset have the ability to be wrong. We can change course when we find we are in error. The religious mindset does not allow this, unless the error is purely personal AND in conflict with accepted dogma.

They decry this as a weakness. The ability and willingness to say "I don't know" is offensive to the religious mindset. They firmly believe that there are questions that musn't be asked, whereas a man like me believes the very opposite. My attitude has led to putting men on another world, there's has led to nothing but death and miserable life. Both Christianity and Islam treat this one life that we have with contempt and view it as a punishment. I find this offensive from both an emotional AND logical standpoint. I suppose this would be a better answer than my first reply in this thread. I hate Islam, Christianity, Mormonism, most other religions for the above stated reasons. They are holding back humanity from achieving great things, and they promote hatreds based literally on nothing.

Thomas Jefferson once said "I care not whether my neighbor believes in one god or twenty. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my legs". I believe this way myself, except that the god lovers are likely to do both, if given the opportunity and sufficient masses.

In a rational world, bad people do bad things and good people do good things. It takes religion or politics to make good people do bad things.

I'm plagiarizing someone with that paraphrase, but I can't recall who right now

But the point is that religion has some useful things, and a lot of bullshit. I can use the Quran or the Bible to justify ANYTHING. I can't use the non aggression principle to do that. While I agree with your point, out of context, in the context of the real world, wars are started over resources and justified with religion. This pattern is so ancient as to be axiomatic. The names of the gods have changed, but not the uses of them. If we can get people to STOP believing in fairy tales, I think the world will be a more peaceable place. No solution is perfect. Only religions believe in perfect solutions, but the greater good is served by belief in what can be proven rather than what can merely be asserted and enforced at the point of the lance.

I think it was more that if all muslims were terrorists, the world would burn. Can't speak for him of course, but that's what I got out of it.

EDIT: This also tends to reinforce something of a personal dictum for me. Most people are good in spite of their religion. Which ought to tell them something about the nature of religion.

sweet! a fellow debater Here's another good site for you, and those interested: logical fallacies and the art of debate

I'm not going to single out Islam, I just found the question of the OP entertaining. But religion as a whole routinely uses all of the logical fallacies.

I can't disagree with a single thing you said here. My earlier responses were more frustration than intentional bobbing and weaving. I don't know how to fix it, and I hate being in that position. I have no official ties to the development team. Thundertoe is a friend, and I have helped where I'm able. (and got compensated for it, though that was not my goal). But I'm an amateur programmer. No, that's overstating my skill. I'm a dabbler who would like to be an amateur programmer.

I don't know why the current wallet is triggering your AV. It's NOT triggering mine, but I've only got Windows Defender set up. As I said, this is a secondary machine. My argument regarding Linux was more personal than advice. I'm a long term Windows user. I've used it almost since it's launch, bumps in the road and all, and I had thought after the debacle of Vista that maybe Microsoft had learned their lesson. Seven was great. I still like it a lot. 8 and 8.1 make Vista look good. I finally gave up in sheer frustration and started using Linux. Since I'm not a gamer, it does everything I need and doesn't give me a lot of grief. I'm still learning it, but overall I've been far more satisfied with it than I was with Windows, even without nearly 20 years of experience using it.

Thundertoe has a hard time getting people to compile the windows wallets, and both of the current ones were compiled by volunteers. Again, both known to me. Presstab, while an excitable guy, is beyond reproach. Argakiig is also a good guy. I'm as certain as I can be that they would not put anything deliberately malicious in the code. But as you noted, you don't personally know me, and that's simply not good enough. Which is why I want to learn how to compile windows wallets and post up a guide for it. If you compile it yourself, you KNOW what's in it. It's not as convenient, but it's safer. And I'm starting to ramble, so I'll hang it up here.

supposed to be. Was prior to the late problems, and will be again. Right now, I hear between about 5 and 20.

Someone above said to judge a tree by it's fruits. This is one of my favorite religious quotes, to be honest, because there is not one religion I can think of that is not immediately damned by it.

As for Christianity condoning violence or even encouraging it while speaking of peaceable intentions out the other side of it's mouth, it's a matter of historical record. That assertion is beyond legitimate dispute. As I said in my first post in this thread, it seems that Islam's radicals are ashamed of their low body count in comparison to their greatest rival. I think they should give it up. The Christians, by name and not including the religion they derived from, have a 700 year head start. That's a lot of graves. And in places like central Africa, they're still doing it. Sorry, but Allah's followers started their wars too late to catch up with Jehovah's.


God save me from your followers.

the guy upload my whole c drive , system image it n was able to get all my passwords ,i had no av at that time
[/quote] shit, that's some ugly stuff man No wonder you're paranoid. I would be too.

I don't store passwords on the machine, or very rarely. I have 'em on a flash drive, and it's encrypted six ways from sunday. I'm not fond of AV software. It tends to fuck with anything not microsoft endorsed, which is the majority of what I do. I just am careful with what is exposed to the net.

Download either VMware player (my favorite) or virtual box. Follow the install instructions. Once the VM is installed, create a new virtual machine (it's a button) follow the guide, download an .iso image from ubuntu or your favorite Linux flavor, and install it like any other computer. After first boot, you usually have to install vmware tools (it tells you how) or some other support packages for virtual box in order for the display and network stuff to work correctly. It was actually harder to type this than to do it. It's not an outrageous process.

The only caveats I would offer is that if you have a multicore machine, set your vm to use only one or two cores, or it will massively slow down your host. But I can run ubuntu on a single core on this little 2 core laptop with little trouble, as long as the vm is set to pretty minimal levels. For wallets, that's fine. After they sync, they aren't terribly resource heavy.

I can't speak for others, but this is one of the many reasons that I have mostly switched away from windows. I don't own this laptop, so it's running windows, but my main machine only has windows in a VM. In Ubuntu, I have all the wallets that I use, which is a fair number, and I compiled all of them.

I'm going to learn how to do it in windows. I don't know when, as I have a lot going on, but hopefully before the next major update. Once I have it figured out, I'll post up a step by step guide for it here. It's fairly easy in Linux, but I imagine Windows has a number of deliberately difficult steps, because that's the nature of the beast. I'd like to be pleasantly surprised and find it as easy as Linux.

Of course one shouldn't take the word of some dude on the Internet, but I do know the gentlemen who coded the new wallet. I'm not sure what's setting off the AV, but the wallet is fine.

Or you could compile it yourself. I don't know how to do that in Windows, and I'm not being a smartass. I only use windows on my laptop, which while travelling, I had my most important wallets on. I usually run ubuntu, and I compile my wallets. I know they ain't got no hitchhikers that way. You could run it in a VM, too, which gives you an additional layer of protection.

Windows defender don't trigger on it. I'm not using anything else at the moment, so I really haven't a clue. Wish I did.

EDIT: Ninja'd by Thundertoe

Seriously? I'm running it on windows 8.1, by far the worst implementation of windows, and I've got no problems.

As for the POS diff, it's probably going to require another fork. Things got borked, and unborking them is not as simple as it first seemed. Or so the smarter people tell me

Why limit the question so arbitrarily? I'd put all American officials on trial for treason based upon the Constitution of the United States, regardless of what bullshit they support today. Israel is an ally of the USAcorp, to be sure, and holds a lot of power. But the entire range of modern politicians disregards the constitution all of the time and arrogates powers to themselves that the monarchs of old didn't dare dream of. I actually think they ALL ought to support Israel. On the front lines, with only a knife.  Meanwhile, we can tear down D.C. and re-establish the independence that our forbears shed their precious blood for 238 years ago.

Hmm.

Interesting question, to be sure. I'm chiming in because I'm interested, not because I hate Islam. I do. But I hate all other religious organizations too, so it's not so specific.

The "why" is that they are demonstrably false. There are certain tenets of all religions, such as do not murder, rape, steal or commit fraud, respect the rights and boundaries of your neighbor, things of that nature, that are of value. Of course these are the basis of all civil society, not merely religion, and they work. Religion and other non factual philosophies then add a lot of whys and wherefores and just plain bullshit on top of that stuff. Which has the effect of DECONSTRUCTING civil society, except for those who agree with you. In it's extreme ends, this leads to a lot of pointless violence. That's not aimed specifically at Islam, though your radicals do seem to want to catch up to Christianity's body count.

I do indeed hate that these religions, once mainstream, are given weight in public opinion and law equal or greater than that which can be proven. What you believe and practice personally, so long as it harms no one who didn't volunteer, doesn't concern me greatly. As with many factors in society, it does interest me. But I don't see personal beliefs as any sort of threat or my business. Only when organized and out for blood.

Ribbiting Madness!

Definitely watching. I've done a lot of stupid shit involving the word ribbit

Perhaps time to do something smart with it.

Biomech, the RibbitMaster since 1995

Everything on that front is under control, but I appreciate the offer. I am not at liberty to elaborate on what happened, except that a deal fell through after I had already taken my family on the road on a one way trip. Nobody's fault, really, just some shit got delayed that we all thought was sewed up. So I'm going to be here in Franklin for a while. I work via the web at the moment, so this is a momentary setback. I did lose a couple weeks work, though, and am playing catch up really harsh for a while.

"upgrade" to windows 7? Or a real upgrade to ubuntu?

I actually am running windows 8.1 on this laptop, but I don't have my HYP wallet on it. I can try it later and see if there's any issues from my end, but other than the (kind of) tongue in cheek response above, I got nothin'.

Take a lesson from this people: If you're going to be a smartass, double check your spelling Glad y'all are keeping me sharp, and I'm glad to be back.