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1381  Local / Italiano (Italian) / Re: Fisco / Tasse / Legge sul Bitcoin on: February 20, 2014, 08:39:21 PM
maa... alla 25quesima pagina di thread qualcuno puo' dire se dichiara e come dichiara eventuali profitti da btc?
1382  Economy / Economics / Re: My bank account's got robbed by European Commission. Over 700k is lost. on: February 20, 2014, 08:01:12 PM
Are you serious?

Anarchy = no rules about anything, you do anything, random warriors of the night assaulting random people.
Free market = only a few economic rules, mostly just preventing fraud and colletting some taxes, the state still exists and acts on other things such as welfare, education, social disorder, etc.

In anarchy warlords soon learn that it's more profitable to rule by consensus instead than by force.
It's just a problem of scale: in mass societies scams and abuses can grow up to unimaginable heights before collapsing on themselves.
And that's why "they" are for NWO. The larger the base, the higher the apex.
1383  Economy / Speculation / Re: rpietila Wall Observer - the Quality TA Thread ;) on: February 19, 2014, 09:22:52 PM
well I hope I did not troll too hard. My intention was just to keep the debate going.
I'm also a fan of rpietila
1384  Economy / Economics / Re: My bank account's got robbed by European Commission. Over 700k is lost. on: February 19, 2014, 01:34:47 PM
In a free market we would probably have sounder money and banksters would pay attention to their behaviour because they would know that they would pay the consequences of their errors while now they can rely on the power of the state to solve the problem caused by their carelessness.
Lol.
In a free market they will screw you and run away, just like they do now.


Lol @you. In the old far West banksters in default were lynched by their clients no questions asked. I guess that's an incentive enough for managing business carefully.

Can you conceive a greater moral hazard than the faculty of unloading bankruptcies (and even "public debt" since we are at it) on innocent bystanders?
1385  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Switchercoin.com ! We mining forks - get LTC ! on: February 18, 2014, 09:23:00 PM
something seems wrong with my hashrate from a couple of days:



Possibly is due to the frequent coin change lately?
Bortmechanic please a fix this soon or I will have to change pool. Thx
1386  Local / Italiano (Italian) / Re: Fisco / Tasse / Legge sul Bitcoin on: February 17, 2014, 09:55:06 PM
sono d accordissimo a pagare il 20 sui profitti, il problema è che io già sono in perdita, dovrei pagare le tasse sulle perdite!  capito la differenza?

una volta che e' passato il principio del "dover pagare" e' una strada in discesa.
1387  Economy / Speculation / Re: rpietila Wall Observer - the Quality TA Thread ;) on: February 17, 2014, 09:23:35 PM
The issue is not whether it will go down but how low and for how long.

...and where. Goxbux, Goxcoins and Goxprice pertain to the world of fables and unicorns.
You've been Re-Goxxed
1388  Local / Italiano (Italian) / Re: Fisco / Tasse / Legge sul Bitcoin on: February 17, 2014, 07:35:04 PM

maaa... una petizione per impalarli tutti ed instaurare l'anarchia? no?
1389  Local / Italiano (Italian) / Re: Fisco / Tasse / Legge sul Bitcoin on: February 17, 2014, 07:27:42 PM
o mio dio Ho letto ora è uno scherzo? io ho tutti i miei soldi in btc se mi tolgono il 20% si prendono il 20% del mio capitale. Orribile. Ma risultando io nulla tenente (lavoro a nero) e teoricamente ancora a carico dei miei,  posso provare che i bonifici dal estero non sono reddito? Fatemi sapere al più presto.
Scrivere cose del genere in pubblico non è esattamente una gallata...


Tra l'altro è la stessa persona che qui scriveva:
allora basta che i criminali e gli evasori (io li considero al pari dei criminali, in quanto fanno un danno allo stato che pagano tutti gli altri contribuenti, quindi è come se rubassero un po' a tutti anzichè ad uno solo e non ho la minima pietà, neanche di quelli che non emettono scontrini, ci tengo a dirlo) trasformino tutto il patrimonio in bitcoin per poi riprenderslo al momento opportuno

sono quasi tentato di segnalarlo io questo "nulla tenente senza pietà" Grin
karma is a bitch
1390  Local / Italiano (Italian) / Re: Fisco / Tasse / Legge sul Bitcoin on: February 16, 2014, 09:07:55 PM
Non capisco: per quale motivo dovrebbe darmi degli euro veri in cambio di IOU di Bitstamp, e pure darmeli a pari valore? O_o
Non ha senso!

l'ipotesi + ovvia e' che lui abbia bisogno di far uscire i suoi soldi senza passare dalla dogana cosi' come il venditore di farli entrare.
ma puo' avere 1000 altri motivi.
1391  Local / Italiano (Italian) / Re: Fisco / Tasse / Legge sul Bitcoin on: February 16, 2014, 08:56:02 PM
2. il problema ce l'avrà lui, ergo se non è proprio un idiota, abbasserà la cifra di conseguenza

il compratore locale se compra e' perche' ha altri problemi. quindi dubito che cio' abbassera' molto il prezzo sul mercato locale.
ma e' un test interessante e voglio proprio vedere il risultato.

io penso che non faro' sconti.
1392  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: What do you think would happen if BTC "died"? on: February 16, 2014, 03:06:46 PM
i guess something like this on a greater scale but decentralized on the planet (unless we'll organize a big funeral-party):
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Jones#Deaths_in_Jonestown
1393  Economy / Speculation / Re: Do you see the price of BTC above $5000 by the end of 2014? on: February 15, 2014, 06:43:59 PM
no, it will be slightly above 1K:
1394  Economy / Speculation / Re: $713, stamp is batshit insane. Bull trap or bear trap? on: February 14, 2014, 09:19:06 PM
Sorry if Im being dense but whats a tarp

=trap. we're all getting slightly dyslexic.
1395  Economy / Speculation / Re: rpietila Wall Observer - the Quality TA Thread ;) on: February 14, 2014, 09:04:46 PM
To ride this dragon and still make wise decisions takes lots of practice, detachment and desensitization.

for me this crash has been another lesson about the need of being bearish when you feel overbullish. But i'm not sure if i will ever learn it.
it takes balls even to sell at an ATH.
1396  Economy / Speculation / Re: $713, stamp is batshit insane. Bull trap or bear trap? on: February 14, 2014, 07:50:15 PM
The current trend will probably continue this cycle... slow downfall - fast drop - sudden spike up - another slow downfall..
I think that's because the biggest investors are moving out. If you were holding 10 000+ BTC, then this method would be the most profitable way to get out with relatively good profit.
I predict that this will continue until 200-300$ when it will settle with couple of months of stability. There won't be another stable boom without opening new markets with decent volumes. I think that bitcoin has 1-2 bubbles still left in it before it dies. Another step is probably south-America, but it takes some time to market bitcoin to the people there. News articles have to be bought, officials have to be bribed, amazing success stories have to be told...

dream on. The most prophitable way out for whales would be just selling slower than the new entrants rate. And just that would need no PR and it would keep price rising. Now any insider has a reason to not rock the boat -unless he's an insider of something much bigger.
1397  Economy / Speculation / Re: I AM HODLING on: February 14, 2014, 08:47:38 AM
so who sodled above 800 to buy back near the 300-day MA (which we are nearing like in previous major crashes) is going to double his hodlings.
the best hodlers are those who sell high, buy low.
1398  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Just-Dice.com : Invest in 1% House Edge Dice Game on: February 14, 2014, 08:33:17 AM
Pardon the quasi-advertisement, but I thought folks on here might like to know.

everyone be careful with cryptocoin widgets, plugins, and apps, since they are the best possible vectors for wallet stealers.
1399  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Just-Dice.com : Invest in 1% House Edge Dice Game on: February 12, 2014, 03:51:39 PM
Saw this posted in another thread


How will this effect us?


like prohibitionism affected drugs trade imho.
1400  Local / Italiano (Italian) / Re: Fisco / Tasse / Legge sul Bitcoin on: February 12, 2014, 02:38:04 PM
il prossimo passo sara' di impedirci a noi di andare all'estero. cominciate a cercarvi un gommone per scappare in Albania
Basterà puntare alla sovranità monetaria, al che per fare un passo fuori dal confine ci costerà un rene minimo Grin

non vedo l'ora di giocare a monopoli con le nuove banconote con il ritratto di Renzie e compagnia. il Zimbabwe ci fara' una p... [/OT]
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