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1381  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Huge potential earnings in bitcoin, still not interesting for others on: June 26, 2018, 01:48:46 PM
As i began my journey through the world of cryptocurrency, it comes to my mind why other people are just ignoring the opportunities that bitcoin gives..

Can you give me some reasons why it's not that interesting for others?
There are people who still ignoring bitcoin and I think they do not know that bitcoin will give them a lot of opportunities like opportunity to become rich or to have a bright future. On the other hand, as of now there is still people who do not any interest on bitcoin but I think if they know there are many opportunities in bitcoin I guess they will grab it and they will have interest on it.
I think most people know about bitcoin and understand the opportunities that it can bring but also because of that, they choose to ignore the bitcoin, instead of investing in it, there are always good and bad sides in a problem. Bitcoin can bring opportunities but hidden in bitcoin are also pitfalls that lead many to scam and bankruptcy, money will flow from one person to another in the investment market, not everyone gets rich and can earn money, this is the reason so obvious when many people are not interested to Bitcoin
1382  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Token bounty must hold or sell? on: June 25, 2018, 05:33:12 PM
Each of us here has a different thoughts what would they do about the tokens that they received bounty campaign. For me, I try to treat each token individually at the stage of selecting the company's bounty. Most often, one-third of coins, and even more, a half, immediately sell. Profit from the bounty is invested in other promising tokens or projects. In exceptional cases, when there is a lot of hype around the project and I see the prospect in it, I leave the full volume of coins to better than many years that been past..
I choose different from you, I sell immediately, instead of holding or selling half because now, when projects are bringing a lot of despair and not let me see the potential, hold makes me not get anything after a waiting time, the value of token becomes smaller over time. I was too depressed when I often look at the token without value, holding a pile of rubbish is never a joy, so I can regret but I will not allow my effort to turn into meaningless, the fastest selling as soon as possible is what I can do to preserve my effort
1383  Economy / Economics / Re: Digital Money = Cashless Society on: June 25, 2018, 04:58:17 PM
I think digital money is just as an alternative to payment, fiat will never disappear in society
Of course fiat will never disappear, only version of fiat will be renewed from paper money will become digital currency, this is a natural
thing change happened effect of a change of era dude, you don't need to worry, fiat will continue to survive but cash will disappear
Disappearing is a story that exceeds my imagination because what I think is just a sharp drop in the number of cash users, modernization society, new technology defeats obsolete technology is a reasonable thing, nothing is surprising. But disappearance is impossible when the level of education and culture in countries around the world is different, the distribution of wealth and poverty is different, and if countries do not have a common payment method, cooperation among countries will be unfavorable, so the society still needs the existence of cash to maintain this cooperation
1384  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: How trade safely without any loss on: June 25, 2018, 04:41:23 PM
I think you can only minimize this risk, by carefully choosing a coin to trade, and the best moment to buy or sell. Because you can not trade without losing anything, because trading is very risky and there is always a chance of losing even if you have the knowledge and experience most needed in this field

I have a joke to say, the only way you can trade without losses, it's not to trade at all. If you would`nt trade, you won't lose anything.
But to be serious, try to be patient and sensitive, it would be very helpful.

Yes, if we have traded, we will surely face the loss, loss is necessary because there is no loss, we will feel everything too simple, life is only peaceful and without development, the market will not have breakthroughs, want to become wealthy would be a fiction story. So whether we are professional or amateur, loss, progress, loss, this circle will still stay by our side forever, we do not have any way out of it unless we give up, a battlefield without danger and risk is no longer a battlefield, it's just a game
1385  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: I will never join AirDrop programs any more on: June 24, 2018, 02:34:44 PM
I have already joined hundreds of airdrops but I got nothing until now. I will never join AirDrop programs any more.
- Each airdrop rewards only some token, that its value from $5 to $20 (calculated by the ICO price)
- Most of the token are dead now (just spammed projects or shit coins)
- Some tokens have been listed on Coinmarketcap now but the token price is terrible low. The value even equal to the transaction fee if I send the tokens to exchanges.

You do realize that airdrops are given for free, right? Don't expect to make money out of airdrops it's like waiting for an apple to fall from its tree directly to your mouth. If you want to earn more then work for it by joining bounties or maybe try trading for higher returns.

Mostly agree with this but way back last year we call it Money From Garbage , well as it states we could really earn a lot from it because on that time all or mostly of the airdrop is really good and there is no shit, you could earn a lot without doing anything but now mostly of the coins is really spam and I do agree in the statement that it is given free so why you are complaining? Go work hard dude ! Do bounty campaign it willl do
Airdrops are like hoping for a luck to earned tokens, most of airdrops are scams so individuals are now afraid to join because of the following issues, for me I choose to participate in bounty program because the most higher allocation of tokens to be distributed than airdrops.
I think people should not be so depressed and feel the airdrop is useless in the present moment, when we participate in, we certainly know the risks in it, so we should prepare for the worst possible situation, nothing to complain about what has been predicted. Everything that we contribute is just simple tasks and it does not take too much time, hope a great benefit is not possible, and because I understand that, I'm always very calm when the project is scam or automatically disappears, it is too normal
1386  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: I lost over 80k because i sold too early (newbie mistake) on: June 24, 2018, 02:18:38 PM
A while ago i went all in ZClassic and bought about 365 Coins when the price was about 2$ per coin, but i decided to sell a couple of days after.
Two weeks later zclassic mooned and i could make about 80k now.

i learned my lesson in the hard way..
at least you learned your lesson from what happened. its true that experience is the best teacher.
since you get enough experience, those experience will not happen again
Agreed, he had a lesson that was very expensive and this impression will help him think and analyze before making a final decision, he will become more patient and not rush in the trading process, that is the good thing that he received. In short, mistake is a normal thing for newbies, he should feel lucky when he does not lose capital, should not be too regret, the market is always hidden many opportunities, there is no chance, we will have another opportunity, the problem is that we need effort, accumulate more knowledge and experience to avoid mistakes are not worth
1387  Economy / Speculation / Re: When to buy more? wait till 6000 or 5500? on: June 24, 2018, 01:16:03 PM
Technical data hints that it can go down to 6000 or 5500 level.
What do you think?
I already held it yesterday when the price of Bitcoin touched $ 5.9K
The right time to buy Bitcoin at current prices.
However I am still waiting for it at the price of $ 4-5K.
I do not understand why you or many people are always thinking very positively and want to buy more bitcoin when the price of bitcoin constantly breaks the important support levels, what I say is not meant to say bad or to destroy your beliefs for bitcoin. What I say is entirely based on the current status of Bitcoin, although in the past, bitcoin has always brought surprises and satisfaction to many people, it does not make anyone feel disappointed but this can not be put into the future, the future is a vast space and there is no certainty, do not trust too much, calm and wait is still better, instead of buying blindly
1388  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: BTC back to $6000 ? on: June 23, 2018, 02:57:08 PM
Almost lost $1000 today in values in last two days.  Just heard the bull has just entered. What's really causing this impact? The price was bit fluctuating between $8500 to $7500 for past ten days but today's impact brought down the value near $7500. Are we towards $6000?

As far as I know from the news. On June 25, there will be payments on futures on the Chicago exchange for bitcoins. That is why now there is a reduction in prices. After the payments are made, the price will go up, as many investors will buy more bitcoins. Wait and patience.
Perhaps this wait and patience has exceeded the limits of many people, I see a lot of investors and bitcoin users are complaining, they even made me feel a negative about bitcoin, hope and hope but then a chain of constant disappointment comes, and the level of severity is getting bigger. Some of my friends have been unable to withstand this pressure, they have panic and sold bitcoin in recent times, if this situation continues and there is no good change when receiving the news as you say, I think I'll give up, I have lost too many assets for this game
1389  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Which one is a better investment Bitcoin Or Ethereum, on: June 23, 2018, 02:40:16 PM
I think bitcoin and ethereum are two coins that have good price movements and become the basis of other coins so of course it would be very profitable to have investment in both because bitcoin and ethereum have a good future
Both can be good investments as many people say but with personal opinion, until the present time, I think that eth is still better than bitcoin because when I am in the position of an investor, what I am aiming for is a potential for growth in the future. Although both have high chances but eth with the advantage of being low value, it creates a lot of good conditions for investors to accumulate, pump and blow the price is also easier, while bitcoin at a relatively high price, it does not bring good conditions and convenience, the rate to spike is very difficult
1390  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Discussion (Altcoins) / Re: How to pick best signature campaign on: June 23, 2018, 02:25:13 PM
In my opinion, you need to spend a lot of time and analysis of the project, if you are satisfied with the project and you understand that this is not a Scam, I would advise you to pay attention to how many people involved and what payments, what budget. To understand how much you get.
Of course, analyzing the project is always a necessity, it will help us understand the project more accurately, from which we can make the decision to join or give up, however, that is not all, we should remember that scammers are always smarter and know how to deceive us. We can not just consider the project in a way that is too subjective, so as you say, we should observe more about the community, the number of participants and the evaluation, they will provide the reliability of the project, and the last thing we need to care about is the manager, a reputable manager will bring safety and prevent any danger from the project to us
1391  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: thinking quiting after lose on gambling. on: June 23, 2018, 01:57:20 PM
do you experience that after losing on gambling that you thinking you will quit gambling for good and never come again to gambling but then next day you are already positive  that you could win in gambling?

that happen to me a lot when i lose in gambling but a could never leave gambling. Cheesy
This used to happen to me when I first started playing Dice game in Bitsler whenever I lose I instantly feel sorry for myself for losing and not getting my money back so I would stop but in the next morning I would go online and deposit another bitcoin just to place hoping that I it will be my lucky day. I guess gambling is always like this, winning in gambling is a feeling that I can't describe all I know is that it gets me very excited but even I felt that way I know that its still not good if I do gambling all the time so I decided to just quit and focus in doing my life better.
There is one thing about this life, if things are not going well for you and you already thought about it, the best is to stop thinking and act accordingly. The problem with a lot of people who do not see losing as part of the game, get angry when they lose, feel like quitting but still keeps coming back is because they always feel there is a huge chance for them to recover all that they have lost and they keep having all that mindset until they lose it completely.
I think many people know that loss is part of the game but facing and accepting it is really a difficult thing to do because a person who comes to gambling, their instincts and minds never want them to lose, it is a normal psychology, we always want to win, failure means death and danger. So even if we get depressed or want to give up but as long as we still have the chance to win, our self-esteem will not allow us to stop, play and recover all is what we think of, and this is also the grave of many gamblers, only a few can resist this thought, most can not give up
1392  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Face up to reality: The game is over on: June 23, 2018, 01:30:28 PM
The development since late December shows very clearly what is happening.

The whales - and anyone else with half a financial brain - are slowly selling all their bitcoin. As they sell, prices begin to drop sharply. They then hold back on the selling and newbies and "HODL'ers" are foolish enough to "buy the dip". This sends the price back up.

It then repeats with rates dropping again, until the newbies and "HODL'ers" buy the dip once more.

Except on every round the dip gets deeper and deeper.

The game is over, and anyone so stupendously stupid to keep buying from the whales who are unloading are basically just throwing their money away.

Face up to reality, the party is over.
You are the one who is stupid to say that bitcoin is over just because the price or the value of bitcoin is decreasing. I think you are so new into this type of investment to have that kind of thinking.  Don't you even know that bitcoin is very volatile? Also, there are really seasons or period of time where the bitcoin has really a low price. Don't come here when bitcoin's price increase we are certain about that.
There can be different point of views and misconceptions when it comes not only to Bitcoin but also to cryptocurrencies as a whole. It normally happens specially when you lack knowledge about its nature, and on how to manage its risks. It's very important to be aware and be more updated as to how this technology works, and I believe that the game is not over yet because each passing day its demand is increasing and more investors are participating in its field. I know that there will be more challenges that we might encounter but with strong faith and support, we can all survive.
Although this game is not over yet but we should also consult and respect the opinion of this guy, that means that what he says has some very accurate views, we can not deny that every time a bitcoin is pumped up, then it will fall deeper and more serious than the previous times. Until a certain time, when all investors, it can be said that the big whales on the market feel bored and have enough profit, the game will end, bitcoin will never come back, maybe this does not happen now but it will come in the future, this guy's opinion may be a reminder for us to have a backup plan.
1393  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Making 1% Daily on: June 22, 2018, 04:22:03 PM
1% of the entire amount invested cannot be earned regularly. It needs high skills and the market support to get the best through the investment. From my experience, trading could get the best earning, but this never happens periodically as the price moves were unpredictable and at times could end up losing if a small mistake is made.
Even how good you are, you will never make a consistent gain on a daily basis, the market is so unpredictable and our best chance
to make money is through long term or in the long run. We have to be realistic all the time as that would make us stay longer and gives a chance to succeed.
Yeah, situations and random things are still too much in this market, when we bring talent and experience into it, we will see very clearly that we do not understand a part of the market, we are just a grain of sand in the desert, we are so small that it is pitiable. The chance for us to earn 1% per day is almost zero, changes constantly and do not follow any principle of market are the reasons hinder us, we have limits and this market is infinite, so as you say, we should focus on long term profit, it will be better than profit every day, and then we will be safe and avoid more risk
1394  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Do you believe John McAfee is right about Bitcoin hitting $500,000 in 3 years? on: June 22, 2018, 04:06:27 PM
I would love too but of course that price is too good to be true, in short it's just a dream. That is very high and nearly impossible to reach within 3years. I'm contented if the price goes back again in $20k rather than believing in this kind of prediction.
Exactly, most bitcoin users like this price, but this is just an unrealistic story, without any chance or basis for bitcoin to achieve that, when bitcoin has not reached $ 500000, people probably have sold all bitcoins at lower rates, no one has enough patience and courage to wait for such high prices. In addition, I do not believe in anyone like John McAfee or anyone who has an influence on the market, all these are just ways to pump and fool others, trusting them just makes us fall into a stupid trap and lose more money
1395  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What would you do with your winnings? on: June 22, 2018, 03:42:24 PM
Initially i used to spend all of my winning into gambling to earn more and more but now i started saving some of my winning for future use. Usually i save half of my winning and spend other half on trying my luck again.
Better to do that and start to save more money to start a business so afterwards you don't need to gamble but became busy with your own business, this are the things that I wanted to do just in case that I win a big amount of money, I will established my own restaurant or a food plaza, I know that gambling is a game of luck and giving such opportunities is not an everyday gift, you can win once and lose after, so better to aim for a big amount then established your goals so you can move away with a purpose.
Intention and reality are two things that are very different, many people are always looking for luck and hope to earn some money from gambling then they will move on to a safer field and abandon gambling but in the end, all the plans went bankrupt. Simply because the temptation of money is too great, every time we win, we can not stop, we just want to play more and play more to gain greater benefits, as long as we are still gambling, sooner or later the money earned and savings from gambling will also return to its original place, gambling always knows how to adjust good luck and defeat us
1396  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: what's your reason joining here in crypto? on: June 22, 2018, 03:24:37 PM
It just because I fascinated with bitcoin price movement against fiats. Then I interestes in crypto market. Also, knowledge gain from this forum were most recene reasons
I think you are trying to justify and shirk your main reason, you should be more honest with yourself, you are here just because of money, because bitcoin can give you a fuller and richer life, the things you aim for are benefits, not passion or anything else. And what I just said is the reason that I joined the crypto, I do not care about the bitcoin knowledge or the new blockchain technology in the future, I'm just interested in how to make money from it, so if I can make money, I will be here but if I can not, sorry, I can only say goodbye, this is the reason for most people
1397  Economy / Services / Re: ivyKoin Signature and Avatar Campaign on: June 21, 2018, 05:26:53 PM
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1398  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Bounty hunting - work or a hobby? on: May 28, 2018, 01:43:37 PM
For me its a hobby. i really like to talk people on this forum so its a hobby for me.
Also i usually cannot reach the post count on targeted period. So its totally hobby for me.

For me, this is more of a hobby than a job. Bounty I don't think the work because every job needs to generate a steady income. The bounty in question of such earnings could not be though, because a lot of scams. Many companies cut back payments , and never know what pay expect.
Although it does not provide you with a very stable and ideal income level but I think anything can increase your income, you should be serious with it, I even suggest to you that you should be serious with everything, both in the crypto world and in real life. Because we can only succeed when we have a certain concentration, if we just consider it a hobby, we will always be subjective in the choice then go in the wrong direction, many people have similar thoughts to you and now they are constantly complaining about bounty, no effort = no good results
1399  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Should I invest in BTC, Altcoin, or ICO on: May 28, 2018, 01:09:47 PM
The market of ICO today is very unpredictable and it will be more risky to invest in it. But here you have a chance to earn much more than you earn if you invest in altcoin or Bitcoin.
Risk from ico is bigger than ever in the present time when the projects are becoming similar and repeating the same, there is no improvement, the number of projects is too many but the quality is not good, fake projects are also more, profit is no longer as good as the first days, that made investors lose interest and gradually move to another field. I do not think we should continue to participate in ico, we should aim for a place with longer term benefits, BTC and altcoin the logical choice, and remember not to participate in garbage altcoin because the exchange is in the process of removing those things
1400  Economy / Economics / Re: When will Apple accept bitcoins? on: May 28, 2018, 12:44:04 PM
apple companies do not seem to be receiving bitcoin as payment for now may be forever because I see bitcoin prices can not be stable and very risky if used as a method of payment.
Yeah, the price of bitcoin is constantly changing, that makes transactions a hassle in converting the price of bitcoin into cash in a reasonable way, sometimes the payments may be delayed for several hours, even days, greatly affecting the customer. Apple is a big company, they always improve the quality and reputation, accept bitcoin will do their reputation go down, they will not foolishly do that, in addition, the government has never officially recognized bitcoin, a big brand like apple would not like to play with the law, it only ruins their future
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