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FirstAscent, can I ask what state or country you live in? I'm curious as to if it's the US or not... I thought you mentioned you lived in the US or at least by inference did, but I'm curious where you live in the US or what country you are in.
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Ok folks, there's a few hold outs and they are going to be out of luck, since we can't wait forever. If you want to change your bitcoin address, send me the following:
Email address Old Address New address
I am going to populate everyone in the database and start payouts either this weekend or next week.
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Once OT personal attacks are removed from your post, you said absolutely nothing. You neither refuted anything I said, nor offered your own explanation. Try to check your anger and stay on topic Josh. Another fine example of your delusion. I refute your statements quite regularly... you just keep spouting the same nonsense over and over hoping that someone will believe you. Sadly (for you), the majority of the forum and the rest of the public disagree with you and your misinformation. But the basic premise remains. Stop posting lies and misinformation and I will stop posting and correcting you. Pretty simple equation there, I am only mildly surprised you failed to understand something as simple as that, as you'v shown very little aptitude of understand simple concepts in the past. |
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I'm more interested in why anyone in authority at BFL would allow a company officer to post attack after attack on the most important forum that's relevant to their business.
I'm positive this has come up at company meetings, and I'll tell you the answer: it doesn't fucking matter. Everyone has made their mind up already, and no amount of influence or evidence will sway either side in the other direction. It's fucking insane watching everyone arguing day in and day out about the same couple of points with the same goddamn counterpoints. There have got to be several thousand pages of shit on this topic that could be condensed in to about 5 sentences.Try the decaf. These 5 hypothetical succinct sentences, being the sum of several thousand pages of shit, would only have evolved into what they are because of the pages of shit. BFL did not start with the reputation they now have, they've earned it. Had they begun with the reputation they have now on these forums, they'd likely have far fewer pre-orders and we'd have far fewer pages of shit to wade through. It's the forum equivalent of watching sausage being made. No, it's people like you who continuously post false information to bolster your flawed arguments. If you would stop posting false information, then there'd be nothing to respond to. As it is, you post so much bullshit that you can, quite literally, pick almost any random post you've made regarding BFL and demonstrate why what you're saying is false. For bonus points, even after being shown that what you are saying is a complete lie, you still maintain the fiction no matter what. You aren't the only one, of course, there's a couple others who are so thick headed as to be unable to admit that what you've posted is false, even when the evidence to the contrary is staring you in the face. |
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@mem, you really need to find something better to do with your time. I won't bother quoting your attacks because I don't really think there is anything substantive there to quote. Coloring my text red does not add some polarizing quality to make phrases contradict, much less does the content itself contradict. I'm unsure of which "issue" I have sidestepped. I have stated plainly that I am not a "shill" as you call it, and I will expound by telling you that I am in no way a representative or someone who has received compensation from BFL and I will remain an impartial member much more interested in the technology than all of this meaningless drama.
I realize you do not like Butterfly Labs, and I do suspect that one day you will get over that. Whether it simply be lapse of time or by way of you screaming from the mountain "I was right, Butterfly Labs was a scam and will never deliver."
At that note, can we please give Avalon back their thread.
Haha dude, it's like arguing with a wall, that one. If you search back (a few months I think), there's a post somewhere about how he was declared mentally incompetent in Australia by the government. I think he lives out in the boonies somewhere Ted Kaczynski style... You can't argue the crazy out of him. |
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No, I was simply telling you about locks because you are misinformed about them and seem to be suffering from the delusion that a lock is there to keep dishonest people out. They are not and never have been, they are to keep honest people honest, nothing more. Inaba, beyond your horrible job as PR, you are also an funny douche... You initial premise is complete fallacious. Tell me, if locks are there to keep honest people honest, what happens when locks are not there? Dishonest people are keep dishonest? Do you realize how absurd is your premise? Let's try again: 'Doors are there to keep honest people honest'. Should people buy more doors to keep more honest people honest?  See if you can spot the logical fallacies in your argument. Protip: There's 3 of them After you're done, come back and we might be able to have a debate. As it is, you're just blathering without making any sense. |
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I haven't said word one about gun control, I was telling you about locks. Or are you too caught up in your rhetoric to realize that fact?
And you were telling me about locks to justify guns? No, I was simply telling you about locks because you are misinformed about them and seem to be suffering from the delusion that a lock is there to keep dishonest people out. They are not and never have been, they are to keep honest people honest, nothing more. Dude, I wasn't speculating about what was on your back. I was speculating about you and how you might enter the wilderness, given your claims. Based on what? A picture you know nothing about and on a post(s) that I never wrote about gun control? You see, this is why your position on gun control is suspect. You base your opinions on nothing but fantasy... you have this picture of me as some Rambo type based on ZERO fact. Your opinions on other subject(s) seem to have about as much backing. As for there being no gun anywhere in the vicinity, I'm glad for that. I am neither glad nor upset... a gun is a tool, much like a camera, a shovel or a pen. They can all be used to destroy and kill. They can all be used to sustain and assist. It all depends on how you use the tools at your disposal. |
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In other words, you participated in the totally unjust and unrighteous US invasion of Panama?! OMG. That is certainly nothing to be proud about! Not that I want to get into a political argument, but that was 1989, a few years before that. What was your point then? That life in the United States is like Panama jungles? I'm sorry, but it isn't. But it can be like the inner city ghetto of large US cities. We were referring to gun control in the United States, were we not? My point is you have no idea what your'e talking about and the fantasy land crap you are spewing is spewing forth quite clearly from a source that has no grounding in reality. I haven't said word one about gun control, I was telling you about locks. Or are you too caught up in your rhetoric to realize that fact? In fact, if you are some place I am going to be, soon, I will be happy to give you a demonstration as to just how ineffective your lock is, assuming you give me permission. Is that avatar picture you? I suppose you're one of those guys that other hikers/mountaineers laugh at out in the backcountry - the guy with the gun and bowie knife on his leg - is that what you're like? Yes, that's me in the avatar... and if you had even the slightest clue what you're talking about, you'd realize that's a camera bag on my back, I'm in a t-shirt and I'm standing at the top of one of the nice Australian rainforests. In that camera bag, I have a Canon 5dMkII and a bunch of lenses, it weighs about 30 pounds. There is no knife, nor a gun anywhere in the vicinity. Nice try though, care to comment more and make an even bigger ass out of yourself? |
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Is that really the world you want to live in?
I want to live in a world where people don't collect and shoot assault rifles on their weekends and cry like babies if that right is threatened, thus reducing demand, thus reducing supply, thus reducing people from having them, thus reducing people who use them to shoot other people. I want to live in a world where conspiracy believing weirdos who are anti-government, anti-tax, and anti-gun-control are actually intelligent enough to realize all the NRA manufactured memes are factually and logically incomplete, and would just shut the fuck up, so the rest of us don't have to witness these tragedies due to their wacko fetish desires. Spoke like someone who's never actually been to a 3rd world country or a *really* bad neighborhood in the US. Haha... fantasy crap like this falls apart the first 10 seconds you are confronted with something more than your comfortable living room and comfy little couch. I used to routinely find myself in L.A.'s South Central and Watts after dark for work related issues. Probably around the time you were born, actually. Rodney King riots, to be precise. Time I was born huh? Lets see... about that time I was ass deep in muck and mud in the jungles of Panama trying not to die from poisonous animals, plants and disease while eating dried out but more often soggy MREs and hoping some asshole didn't frag me because he was too jumpy or some piece of shit guerrilla didn't stab me in the night. Yes, your sad plight of having to walk around a bad neighborhood in the evening and being able to go home to a warm house and hot food was weighing on my thoughts, let me tell you. I am so sorry you had to brave the jungles of Compton for 10 minutes every few days. |
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Is that really the world you want to live in?
I want to live in a world where people don't collect and shoot assault rifles on their weekends and cry like babies if that right is threatened, thus reducing demand, thus reducing supply, thus reducing people from having them, thus reducing people who use them to shoot other people. I want to live in a world where conspiracy believing weirdos who are anti-government, anti-tax, and anti-gun-control are actually intelligent enough to realize all the NRA manufactured memes are factually and logically incomplete, and would just shut the fuck up, so the rest of us don't have to witness these tragedies due to their wacko fetish desires. Spoke like someone who's never actually been to a 3rd world country or a *really* bad neighborhood in the US. Haha... fantasy crap like this falls apart the first 10 seconds you are confronted with something more than your comfortable living room and comfy little couch. |
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Steelcase Leap Ergonomic Door locks are to keep honest people honest. They do nothing to deter dishonest people. Yes they do. Nice try, though. Uh... no they don't. Can you tell me how your puny little door lock will stop my foot? The door frame to your house is made of wood... oh what's that? You have a metal door frame and a reinforced slide on the door? That doesn't stop a 40lb door ram (there's a reason police use it to bust down doors). But seriously, why bother with a door when there's 1/8" of glass keeping people out of a structure? Any handy rock will take care of that problem. Subtly you say? The lock picking link above is good... a credit card works fine unless you have a deadbolt on, then just resort to lock picking. I'm going to make a guess here: You think that having more lights (streetlights, porch light, etc...) in your neighborhood is a good thing and makes your neighborhood safer, too, right? Door locks do nothing but keep honest people honest. You're like myrkul. He and I already had this conversation. Just because it's possible doesn't mean it's the norm. And regarding credit cards - did you learn that from TV shows? LOL, you're an idiot. Not the norm? Of course it is... most people are honest. Dishonest people are not the "norm" if you define the "norm" as a majority of people. Those are the people we are talking about, and those are the ones that door locks don't stop. Do you think people in less affluent neighborhoods have 5 or 6 door locks for decoration, or is it to keep people out, because door locks don't stop people? Do you think those same people have bars on their window because the door locks work? No, because the window is a weak point and dishonest people will not be deterred by 1/8" of glass. Most door locks in suburbia America (not deadbolts) can be defeated with a credit card. You can choose to disbelieve that, but even spending 2 minutes jimmying your front door with a credit card will tell you how incredibly deluded you appear to be. Got to get in fast without leaving a trace of evidence? http://www.lockpickshop.com/LOCKAID.html $50 bucks, you'll never know someone picked your lock, and it only took a few seconds. Got a few more bucks and don't want to go through the trouble of that pesky "squeeze and release" motion a few times? http://www.lockpickshop.com/E500XT.html only $169. 95% of locks are a joke, especially on suburban households. The tolerances on the tumblers in your locks on your front door (deadbolt included) are so incredibly sloppy that I could manually pick them in under a minute. The more expensive locks take longer, but using a $169 tool will defeat even the best quality single sided tumbler lock in minutes to seconds. It's called security theater, Google it. I bet you think the TSA is keeping you safe, too, right? |
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Steelcase Leap Ergonomic Door locks are to keep honest people honest. They do nothing to deter dishonest people. Yes they do. Nice try, though. Uh... no they don't. Can you tell me how your puny little door lock will stop my foot? The door frame to your house is made of wood... oh what's that? You have a metal door frame and a reinforced slide on the door? That doesn't stop a 40lb door ram (there's a reason police use it to bust down doors). But seriously, why bother with a door when there's 1/8" of glass keeping people out of a structure? Any handy rock will take care of that problem. Subtly you say? The lock picking link above is good... a credit card works fine unless you have a deadbolt on, then just resort to lock picking. I'm going to make a guess here: You think that having more lights (streetlights, porch light, etc...) in your neighborhood is a good thing and makes your neighborhood safer, too, right? Door locks do nothing but keep honest people honest. |
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Try locking your door at night. Door locks are to keep honest people honest. They do nothing to deter dishonest people. |
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That's what I am asking. Does anyone see a need for having actual shares displayed vs diff1 shares? Currently it's actual shares and I will change it to diff1 shares assuming there are no objections.
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I don't have a problem with that... does anyone else reading this still want "actual" shares vs diff1 shares in that column? If so, why?
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One word ...only because sword fights look way more epic. That is all.  One word: Gunkata http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tINWl0gzQWISwords and guns, even more epic! They could have chosen better music though. Bludgeoning someone with a gun is always way cooler than just shooting them. |
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Hmm... ok, so when you say accepted difficulty, what do you mean specifically? Like an aggregate or average? I'm certainly willing to change it.
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I see understanding and identifying subtly and sarcasm is not your strong suit (I'll try to use small words and be more direct next time). Good try though, keep chugging away and you might actually post something intelligent! I'm sure that Harry Potter fanfic will keep your wit sharp.
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I'm not really sure what you mean. How is it any less or more useful than before?
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