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1381  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: Exchange Tutup on: October 08, 2019, 09:06:40 AM
Menurut agan exchange lokal seperti indodax bisa  tutup juga apa gak??
Exchange lawas uda pada berguguran tapi ada aja exchange baru yang dibuat ,sebenarnya perlu apa tidak begitu banyak exchange yang ada di dunia kripto saat ini??
1382  Economy / Speculation / Re: What you expect about next move of bitcoin? on: October 07, 2019, 07:42:38 PM
from my experience what is often talked about by people then the direction of bitcoin will be the opposite of what you often hear.
1383  Economy / Speculation / Re: Will Bitcoin cross 3K USD this year? on: October 07, 2019, 03:20:17 PM
Never again will BTC touch the price of $ 3000, this price is too low comrades with the current market capacity.
rest assured no one really left this market.
1384  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin gains influenced by Tether? on: October 07, 2019, 01:08:37 PM
I fully agree with you if the price of BTC is influenced by the price of USDT.
a lot of people save their assets in crypto for a new bull run is the safest way to save in USDT, but it's a bit strange for me to not limit the total supply from usdt to make such a large amount of funds why can't it be detected?
1385  Other / Off-topic / Re: Largest religion in 2050? on: October 07, 2019, 10:31:35 AM
Islam ofcourse.  Muslims population all over the world is growing by heaps and pounds so they will become the largest religion in 2050.

I agree with you, many European countries have accepted Islam and the development of Islam is very rapid there.
Look at how many great people are known to convert to Islam.
1386  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Antivaccination propaganda here and there. on: October 07, 2019, 04:28:23 AM



So please, vaccinate your child don't listen to anti vaxxers at all cost if you want your child live.




my child was not given the vaccine but until now he is healthy and fit.
not a vaccine that guarantees safety and health but a healthy lifestyle is more effective than any vaccine.
every child has his immunity so I will never receive a vaccine from the government or the private sector.
1387  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects? on: October 07, 2019, 02:01:22 AM
yes for me ICO is dead.
no one will want to invest in ICO if they only suffer losses.
if not a scam eats the price will plunge. so what else to expect ??
1388  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money on: October 06, 2019, 01:25:18 PM
This to me is a traditional view which remains persistent until the very day.

My mother considered gambling as playing with money. She sternly reminded us not to gamble. When I was in college, there was a hot debate within the church whether or not to accept donations coming from dirty sources such as gambling. And in Islam, gambling (maysir) is haram (forbidden). [1]

I have a friend whose father would not serve the family food bought using gambling money.

And just a few years ago, our Education Secretary shunned billions of state-funds because they are coming from gambling. She didn't think it moral and proper to buy books and even build classrooms using the dirty gambling money. [2]

What are your thoughts on these? Do you agree with it, or you consider these as old-fashioned views?



Sources:
1. https://questionsonislam.com/question/what-gambling-what-view-islam-gambling
2. https://www.philstar.com/other-sections/education-and-home/2016/09/29/1628372/briones-shuns-gambling-money-education
3. https://www.manilatimes.net/2016/10/29/opinion/editorial/pragmatism-morality-classrooms-pagcor-money/293705/




Your secretary's actions are correct because it is impossible to use dirty money for education, such as wanting to wash clean but by using dirty water the results will not be there.
1389  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: The UFC Info and Prediction Thread on: October 06, 2019, 11:56:04 AM
Huge news... Khabib's dad agreed on a Conor McGregor rematch in Russia... this will be epic:

https://www.mmamania.com/2019/10/3/20897858/ufc-khabib-father-conor-mcgregor-rematch-russia-timeline-eagle-return-mma
Great news to the fans of the notorious Conor Mcgregor and this time it’s like watching Rocky 4, he will be a guest in Khabibs homeland which is already an advantage to Khabib. I guess Conor really wants this fight badly if he agreed and signed. Imagine the pressure of fighting with the crowd against you.
remach khabib vs McGregor will end like the first fight.
inevitably Khabib is too great for McGregor.
it's hard to beat a wrestler who fought a bear.
1390  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Religion of Peace? Why Religion At All on: October 06, 2019, 10:32:36 AM
People need structure for life and for the most part, religion has fulfilled that role. As long as they keep it private I wouldn't mind. However I think the secular state should pursue those that use religion for harm (pedophile clerics, extremists inciting violence) and not let them hide behind "separation of Church and State".

It's kind of confusing sometimes since there are several interpretations of islam's teachings. Some moderate muslim can really convince you that islam is not about jihad and hate towards non-believers. I've come across some of these muslims and they're one of the most tolerant group of people i've ever encountered. And then there are the extremists who, as well all know, take the teachings of the Quran way too literally without giving ground.

Meh, wouldn't trust even "moderates" with the whole taqqiya thing floating about. You can never really be sure if they are telling you the truth when you ask them anything related to their religion.

You hit the nail on the head here. I understand the structure of life portion of the debate but I don't see the need for religious beliefs to enforce that. To each his own I suppose. I personally don't require religion as a form of structure but I can see where many others would (maybe poor quality of living, lower intellect, whatever)

Quietly practiced it's not a big deal. When others are violated as a result that's where I have a problem. Even the annoyance of JWs knocking on my door is enough to get me fired up sometimes. Pretty common occurence where I'm from. Do not come to my house and try to push your beliefs upon me. If we want to play that game I will go around knocking on their doors asking if they've heard of the gospel of bitcoin.

Unfortunately there are many people who want to dominate others. They see their religion as something superior that must be imposed on others.

Which is why I'd be wary of "moderates". They may "genuinely" not agree with the methods of the fundamentalists but they have no problem with the end result.

Found this in my recommendations. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aHC6x367GMc  Guy is still quite religious but I still do agree that Islam is a threat. Sure there are still militant Christians but many Christian country has more or less become quite tolerant about most things. The same cannot be said of Islam.

don't ever denigrate other people's religion, in my country all people are free to embrace religion in accordance with their respective beliefs.
in the teachings of religion there is not the slightest teaching that teaches violence, on the contrary religion is made to make people free from damage.
1391  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Future of Altcoins ? on: October 06, 2019, 08:16:23 AM
now it seems that so many altcoins are dead and left by their owners.
I think, no more than 20 altcoins will survive in the future.
1392  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: REQUEST FOR GAS FEE TO GET PAID ARE SCAM. on: October 05, 2019, 01:08:30 PM
whatever the form, if you have been asked something from the bounty or AirDroid that you follow immediately stay away from the project.
one more thing from me if the project looks suspicious like having to buy their tokens on the web in order to get the bounty to leave immediately, because that is also the way cheaters ensnare you.
1393  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: A view on hunters and crypto currency on: October 05, 2019, 09:51:28 AM
If you come to this forum as a bounty hunter, you're late, friend.
my view of crypto currencies will not change from the beginning and continue to believe crypto will continue to grow with the times.
1394  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin has seen furthest correction of all bull markets on: October 05, 2019, 08:36:07 AM
what I can learn from the chart above is how volatile the crypto market is, especially with bitcoin.
no decreases occurred overnight, all of which span several months.
if you get it in the right time then you can get big profits but if it goes in the wrong time it will suffer losses.
correction is definitely needed for the continuity of this market so don't panic too much with the current conditions because bitcoin has often experienced situations like this.
1395  Economy / Speculation / Re: Q4 -Quarter 4 speculation thread, where will 2019 end, join the LIST on: October 05, 2019, 05:14:33 AM
$ 10518  Smiley
1396  Economy / Speculation / Re: Q4 -Quarter 4 speculation thread, where will 2019 end, join the LIST on: October 04, 2019, 06:07:54 AM
the most appropriate price for the end of the year in my opinion is $ 12500.
I hope I become the winner.
the reason is there will be no new ATH for the end of the year so I chose an increase that occurred in June this year alone.
1397  Economy / Speculation / Re: What Developments Can Put Bitcoin Upwards Again? on: October 04, 2019, 02:57:05 AM
Development! I doubt anything needs to be done in terms of development.

The halving next year will definitely bring a surge in price if history repeats itself. Halving is a big event in Bitcoin's ecosystem. More natural growth and new investors can bring an organic price surge.

the two are not going to be the same in 2017, and in my opinion the factor that led to the 2017 surge was investor confidence in the ICO.
if there had been no further fraud there would have been a significant spike in cryptocurrencies.
1398  Economy / Speculation / Re: When bitcoin will hit $1 million ! on: October 04, 2019, 01:23:50 AM
Can we first hit $100k before making such outrageous predictions? $1 million is $990k above the current price.... It really seems that people have gotten so Bitcoin gay that they can't think straight anymore.

In percentage terms, it's not outrageous at all. Using Bitstamp prices:

2015 low: $152
2017 high: $19,666

That's a 12,838% rise. Apply that to the 2018 low of $3,122 and we're looking at $400K+. That's just one bull market cycle.

Everyone also looks at 2011 and 2013 and assumes the next cycle must be smaller, but I'm keeping an open mind about that. For example, if we apply 2011's gains bottom to top, the next cycle target would be $1.8 million.

Am I expecting that in the next bull market? No, but I'm not ruling it out either. With Bitcoin, the potential upside is endless.

do not expect too far my friend, the fact is that when bitcoin is pumped there is always a correction which means that there will be no one who continues to hold bitcoin.
1399  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: Penjualan GRAM (telegram token) di tokenomy exchange launchpad on: October 03, 2019, 09:21:43 PM
Kali ini giliran ExMarkets yang ngadain IEO untuk GRAM, disana GRAM dijual dengan harga $3.2
https://exmarkets.com/launchpad/gram-btc

Ko tiap market yang jualan GRAM harganya beda2 ya ? Apakah GRAM yang dijual juga berbeda ?

Ane pribadi tidak akan tertarik berinvestasi di IEO selain di binance.
Jika gram perusahaan besar dan serius saya kira tidak terlalu sulit bagi mereka terdaftar untuk IEO di binance.
Tapi nyatanya skrg ketika setiap exchange berbeda bedah harganya itu patut di pertanyakan.
1400  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: [ANN]⭐ Token Jinbi ~ ‘The Golden ICO’ Menggabungkan Emas Dengan Blockchain ⭐ on: October 03, 2019, 12:36:01 PM
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harusnya basa basi dlu gan jgn  langsung ke intinya siapa tau kan di jwab ;v
pdhal mah klo sylon bsa memberikan jawaban pasti reputasi dia gk jelek2 amet, yg saya herankan knapa dia harus berdiam saja  sedangkan yg bertanya tentang jinbi banyak, manager lain saja klo ada proyek yg di hendle mereka gagal tapi tetap memberi jawaban dan aktif
Begitu lah dunia kripto ketika satu kali melakukan kesalahan langsung di pandang jelek BM.
Padahal yang saya ingat sylon merupakan BM yang jika menghandle suatu bounty selalu menuai hasil yang pantas untuk peserta nya.

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